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Hey, Joe. Hi.

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So, we are back in Star Trek, the Next Generation territory, and

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this is its imperial stage, isn't it?

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It's season three. and we're about a 3rd of the way through with

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episode eight.

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It's the price and it's...

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I've seen this recently, you know.

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Yes.

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So what was the one?

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It was the masterpiece society when we were doing the masterpiece

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society, which was super boring.

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And then you got another Deanna romance episode.

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And one of the things that struck me all the way through this is

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that it's super weird to give these characters romance episodes

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because we just know it's not going to go anywhere.

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And you think about the romance episodes and they're all kind of a

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bit awful.

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They're all dreadful in all sorts of ways, aren't they?

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The only time they dare to give them romances that could

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potentially have consequences is when the show is ending in 5

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episodes time.

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And like you said, they don't have to deal with it.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, and that's too regulars.

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That's not just this person who comes on for the week and who we

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know won't be there next week and so we know from the outset that

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this is doomed.

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And so it's kind of hard to know what's going on.

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I think the successful one for me is lessons with Australia's

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Wendy Hughes falling in love with Picard.

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I think that's not too bad, but probably in retrospect if I watch

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it now, I would decide it was terrible.

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Yeah, I was really trying very hard because I did name a couple

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didn't I?

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And then you were going, yeah, but then all next gen.

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Yeah, I'm really, really hard to think of next gen romances that

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actually work.

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I don't think...

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I mean, don't you remember the dolphin from season two?

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Oh, God.

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Wesley Crusher and Seleo.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And she turns into some various nylon monsters and stuff.

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It's really shockingly bad.

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I think the real romance in that story is between Wharf and Anya.

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Yes.

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She's being great, actually.

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Oh, do you know what?

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I've just thought of one that actually, it's not really kind of

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done as a big romance, but they've got great chemistry and that's

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Wesley and Robin Leffler.

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Yeah, Ashley Judd.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That is pretty good, actually.

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But again, that's not the focus of the episode, is it?

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Is it true what they say about your birthmark?

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She gets great, Mark.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, but I don't know.

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I mean, I think the guy in this episode, so his name is Raal is

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such a creep.

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I know.

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And I really think that, you know, he should be punched in the

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face all the time.

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And there's this sort of obsession with the idea that the women

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shouldn't have jobs if they have relationships.

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So we've seen both Ronan and Odan express the wish for Beverly to

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quit her job and kind of run off with them.

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And then here there's this sort of weird thing about Deanna's

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job.

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But I don't know.

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I don't know what it is.

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Why do the men get attractive people to sleep within their romance

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episodes?

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I want to talk about the horrific, the perfect mate, which has at

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least Famke Yansen in it for Picard to kind of moon over and she's

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beautiful?

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But this guy's a massive creeper.

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And he just reminds me of Adam Scott in the good place.

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The demon called Trevor, who kept telling women that they weren't

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smiling enough and stuff.

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You know, he's such a creep.

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He's so awful.

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You think they think he's smooth?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, then there's something going very wrong here.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I don't know what it is.

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It looks like like the script credit, is the script credit go to a

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woman?

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I think we should keep an eye out for it, but I got the impression

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that this was written by a woman.

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I mean, I did like the fact that Troy cuts loose a little bit in

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this episode.

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Because like you say, she's normally such a good girl.

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And here she's throwing shade at Captain Picard.

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She's ordering up as many chocolate ghettoes as she can get her

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hands on, ignoring her mother's hails and oiling up a man in her

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free time.

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I mean, she's having some fun.

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But I think she does learn a valuable lesson about not to do that

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is probably the problem with it, I think.

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The other thing is that I think that this flirts with being funny

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but absolutely kind of shies away from it.

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On the page.

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I think this is quite funny in places.

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I think in execution.

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And you're right.

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You said to me off my, it's in the performance half the time, that

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they just, they're not relaxed enough to let the laughs go, you

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know?

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And a few years later, I think they would be.

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You know, this is series three.

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This is the 1st time the show is really kind of consistently

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getting it right.

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And they're still so stiff.

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They're such space people.

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And like compare this to the annual Spock sex comedy on Strange

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New Worlds, where they use Star Trek's high concept stuff to

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create ludicrous premises to embarrass Spock with.

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And both of those episodes work really well and are genuinely

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properly funny in all sorts of ways.

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But this only just kind of goes up to the brink of being funny and

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then shies away from it.

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But you know what the trouble is here is obviously TNG's come

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along and it is trying to push away from, you know, the

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ridiculousness of the original series, why they would feel the

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need to do that.

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I have no idea.

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And then they put out 2 seasons of the next generation, which are

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in many ways, far more ridiculous than the original series, ever

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was, because they're trying to be very serious about things that

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are completely absurd.

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And now we're in series three.

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Michael Piller's coming in and Berman as well. and they're, and

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they are trying to smooth out the show, but they've still got this

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incredible bug up their bar about not having fun.

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Yeah.

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So even when they're trying to have fun, they're sort of pushing

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against having fun.

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So that's a weird mix.

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Because, I mean, this kind of works as a romantic comedy in a way

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because you've got this guy going around and he's kind of pulling

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all these quick ones on all of the other delegates and stuff.

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But everything is so kind of serious.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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We'll see as it goes I think.

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At what point did we get to, I don't know, I'll choose a lineup of

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a hat.

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Garak, an old man Bashir.

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If I was you, doctor, I'd grab a bottle of champagne and shoot me

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you know, at what point did they start to just relax and let

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themselves have fun?

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Well, I don't think it ever really properly happens on Star Trek

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the Next Generation, although it's getting a bit more relaxed and

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a little bit more kind of normal by the end of the show's run.

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I think Marina, you know, what the trouble with Voyager is, is

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they get so relaxing. moves on into cringe.

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Yeah, oh, no, I think Voyagers always create into all of that sort

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of dialogue is just hugely embarrassing.

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I can't wait till we get one of those, you know, absolute duds.

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But I think Marina really kind of lands it in 1st contact when she

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gets drunk.

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Yeah, and from then on, they kind of go, actually, Marina's really

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fun and funny.

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Why don't we let Deanna just be more like her.

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And that really works.

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Unfortunately, there's not more...

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, but that's good.

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Let's just let Marina go on the set and make up her lines.

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Look, she's pissed.

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Now, get a get a filmer now.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But I reckon that there are lines here that she could have played

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like that.

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And she never does.

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Like there's the lure of being a good girl.

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She has to be a good girl for the show.

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And so she doesn't get to be naughty.

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And even that final line of hers.

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So the guy says, oh, you could be my conscience and I'm a bad man

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and I need reforming and blah, blah, blah.

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And she says, actually, I already have a job as a ship's

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counsellor, you know, but she doesn't make that land, you know

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that she doesn't make that gag land.

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And it could be funny.

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She never.

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We've always been saying about these people are their job.

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So to give her the line, she just goes, you know, sort of proud.

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I'm a counsellor.

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You know, whereas what you bother to say to him is, oh, fuck off.

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Go on.

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Yeah, but what she is saying is, you're asking me to be your

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counsellor.

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Like I've already got a job as a counsellor.

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Thanks.

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You know, like I'm not going to have a relationship with a man who

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I have to counsel all the time.

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You can just get sassy enough.

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No, shame that.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I'm trying to think what Dax would have said to this fella.

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Yeah, yeah.

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See, I think romances are things that the show should do.

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And I think for a show that has had a kind of male following and

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romance is, you know, has historically overwhelmingly been a

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female interest, I think it's important that that sort of stuff

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gets done.

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But I do think it's embarrassing the way that Star Trek, the Next

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Generation, does it with the women being kind of a bit passive and

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the men being incredible creeps.

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And I say one thing positive, though, before we go in.

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Yeah, and that is, even though it doesn't quite land, I really

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appreciate the spotlight on Marina Surtis and Troy, because that's

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something that TNG don't get right a lot of the time, you know

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there's some, a lot of episodes where she gets 2 lines or it

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doesn't feature, you know, Counsellor Troy has gone off in a

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shuttlecraft or something for the episode.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So just having an episode centred on Troy and just letting her

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relax a little bit is a massive positive.

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But also, I said to you off bike, this is so tricked by the

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numbers.

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We've got a wormhole over here. crazy looking little bomarian

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alien occurring over here.

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There's negotiations, the Ferengia being sleeves bags, you know

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and it's so comfortable to watch this.

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I don't really very good.

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Okay, a great deal.

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No, but it's fun.

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Enjoyable next generation, just because we had so much of this and

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we loved it at the time.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I think it's an easy watch, despite the fact a lot of it is

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cringe.

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Yeah, I don't think we were wrong to love it.

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I think it is really fun and it does all the Star Trek things and

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it has, you know, it's not funny, but it does have a kind of lower

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decks vibe.

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This is the version of Star Trek that Lower Decks is making fun of

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most of the time.

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I think it's I really like it.

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Well, you know what?

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I also, I love lower decks making fun of it because that's

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hilarious.

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But then I love the material they're making fun of as well.

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It's win-win.

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Yeah.

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No, well, they they feel the same way, I think.

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Well, let's go and win. should we?

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Yeah, we should.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I'll count us in.

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Five, four, three, two, one, and we're off.

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Do you know what, right?

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I was so excited to watch this, the time you told me we had to

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watch the masterpiece society.

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I was like I cannot wait to talk about this episode.

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Okay, so this is her coming in.

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She's had a long day offering counselling services to the crew.

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Yeah, so I'm trying to work out what her through line is.

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Is her through line here that she's a bit sick of her job, or

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she's a bit sick of everyone.

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She feels a bit beleaguered and it's kind of funny.

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She's got these letters from her mother and that reaction is

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really funny and kind of her being a bit naughty.

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You got to remember, right?

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These people on the Enterprise have to spend their entire day

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pretending like they're happy with these boring jobs that they've

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got.

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So this is the one chance they've got to whinge about it and she's

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listened to that all day.

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Yeah, and now she wants a chocolate sundae and the computer's

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telling her, no, that's unhealthy.

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You can't have it, which I think is pretty great.

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And like Deanna wants chocolate is like the most kind of basic

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character trait.

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Do you know what I mean?

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This is...

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That's the only character trait that she's got.

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That's exactly it.

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We returned to it.

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Mind you, there is that sequence. in the episode where she's

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eating the one in 10 forward and she's almost having orgasm over

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it.

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She's describing the ritual of eating the chocolate.

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Well, then doesn't Riker say, should I leave the 2 of you alone?

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You know?

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No, he goes, he goes, it sounds almost romantic and she looks at

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him, goes in the eye, goes, Chocolate is a very serious business.

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But I love this.

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I love this thing where she says, I'm not really dressed for a

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reception.

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And Picard's line is so hilariously uncharacteristic. just throw

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anything on.

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That's funny.

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Like, what is he saying?

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It's sexist line number one.

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It's so...

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It's so not him.

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Oh, counsellor, just throw any out.

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But I also really like Riker and her together as they walk in.

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Like this episode needs to establish that they're close friends

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and that like 10 seconds really sells it, I think.

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I think I think actually this does some nice things with their

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relationship because she's with this dreadful bloke.

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But also, like, I was...

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Watching this, I was thinking about Kursman Trek and where they

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end up and all of this run of Next Generation now gives context to

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that relationship and where it comes up.

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So thank you, Kurtzman Trek, for taking these crumbs that we had

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for these 7 years and making something of it.

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You made a cake out of it.

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Well done.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So this guy, so here is Raal. and he has most incredible eyes.

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I know.

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It's the most amazing thing about it, Mike.

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Yeah.

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And I kind of like, because remember, so is this your Beaumarian

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guy?

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Both of them, both of them.

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One's got an enormous head that looks like a butt.

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And the woman's got a hair that has been crimped within an inch of

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its life.

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So she's a barzan and they, uh, you know, so none, obviously from

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Discovery, uh, series 2, we actually saw her in the episode that

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we did recently recently.

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Oh here we go.

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What's that fellow at Barzan in series one, you know, where he's

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at the academy with Wesley?

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No, no, no, because he's got that he's got that blue head, doesn't

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he?

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He's got... that he's...

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Whiskey smoke coming out of his thing.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So she has that because she can't breathe air, like normal air

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because her planet is, and that's why they need someone else to

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run the wormhole.

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So all of that sort of setup.

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Like, I think that setup is actually quite good.

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And so clearly do the people who are spinning off Deep Space 9

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because from this, we get the idea of a stable wormhole and of the

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Gamma Quadrant and the Delta Quadrant.

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This is the 1st time we've actually properly talked about

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quadrants.

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They go through, don't they?

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And he goes, no, this isn't the gamma quadrant.

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This is the Del Quadrant.

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And I don't think anybody expected there to be a sequel to this

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episode. in series 3 of Voyager, False Prophets.

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Yeah. set up on some ditsy alien planet and they're gods placing

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the life out of them.

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I mean, it's quite fun.

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It is like an old TOS episode, actually.

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Right, right.

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I have seen it, obviously, but I can't remember it all that well.

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But it is the same actors, is it?

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They get Dr. Arador and what's his face?

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Yes, okay.

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And Ethan Philip gets a chance to don Ferengi makeup again and

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pretend to be...

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The grand proxy.

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That's it.

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Oh, I'm just such a ridiculous franchise.

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I love it.

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But I mean, that like all of that stuff is incredibly fun.

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And so we have the enterprise is this place where all of these

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different groups are trying to kind of, what bid for the right to

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oh, they're buying it, aren't they?

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They're bidding for the right to kind of run it.

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I just don't think the negotiations themselves and the games that

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Ra is playing are particularly interesting.

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That's the trouble.

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Well, they all seem to suggest he's just great psychologist and

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he's done amazing moves.

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And I was like, no, really.

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He just said to him, well, you know, I'll offer you a bit of

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money.

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You give me your things and then I'll, you know, win over Riker.

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Yeah, I mean, each time he manages to discover something about

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them that informs the way that he approaches it.

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I think.

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So there is something there, but it's just not very interesting

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and you have to be clever.

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I think, to write a clever person and we perhaps don't have that

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here.

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Since we have 2 aliens here on the bow moss scale.

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I'm going to ask you now, please, if you can break them both.

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Okay, so I think that the Barzan is probably a 6 or a 7.

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It's pretty standard.

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And in fact, it's only the crimping hair, which isn't a

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particularly alien thing.

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It's just a period thing.

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It is pretty shockingly bad.

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But I think she's just a seven.

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Oh, look, I think he's a solid 9.8, that guy.

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That whore...

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Like he, I'm going to knock off about .3 because he has 3 fingers

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on each hand, but he has massive rings on the fingers, I think.

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That enormous head.

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It's a huge butt head.

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I mean, do you think he had to sort of bend down to get through

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those low doors?

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I don't know.

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It is pretty terrible.

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The writer of this episode is Hannah Louise Shearer.

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So the sexist lions came from a woman.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Oh, so in here, the Frankie.

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And this, actually, see this, I actually think this is funny.

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And Western chairs.

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Star Trek funny.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Star Trek the Next Generation funny.

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But their obsession with chairs, and then the way that Picard

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diffuses it is kind of funny, and you can have my chair.

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Like I think that's pretty great.

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Do you know what the trouble is?

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We were talking about humour earlier. is they don't trust you to

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get the joke the 1st time.

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So we do this chair thing 3 times and then there's the punchline.

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Later on, there's a scene between, and it is quite funny between

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Geordie and data when they're in a shuttlecraft and Geordie goes

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oh, Jesus Christ, I could end up stuck in here for the rest of my

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life.

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And that's the funny part.

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And then Data has to say, oh, don't worry, Geordie.

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I'll be here with you as well.

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And I'm like, you couldn't have trusted us to get that, you know?

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No, that's it.

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I think that they're not comic writers, so they're not very good

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at writing funny material.

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And they're not very good at directing it either.

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And I think there are some cuts between scenes that are supposed

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to be funny, but they don't they don't last comedies for TNG is

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raw more. raw more tapestry.

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And that's a very funny episode.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Is there a gene luck picket here?

445
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Actually, can I say about the Ferengi in the next generation?

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Because I think DSI did come along and completely revolutionised

447
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the race, but and very often the Ferengi are utterly one, though

448
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they're not funny in the next generation.

449
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No, I think these guys actually do work.

450
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Oh, yeah.

451
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Yeah, I think so too.

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I love this too.

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This is so TV, isn't it?

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It's kind of like, oh, I thought you were thinking about me and

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she goes, oh, no, not really, but of course she was, you know

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Googling him just before he walked in.

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She was Facebook stalking robles and shit, you know.

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Ambassadorial Facebook.

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Look terrible, isn't it?

460
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non-confrontational counsellor said.

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It's got sort of pink pastels on a screen, isn't it?

462
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Yeah, but then green.

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I just sort of think, what are we doing?

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What are you doing?

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I think the most exciting colour in this set is Rao's eyes.

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Yeah, although I am giving, I think it's pretty close between that

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and Deanna's lipstick in this scene is pretty great.

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Circular sort of plate on the wall there.

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That's a decoration.

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That's a picture. don't know.

471
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It looks like, you know, you know those pictures you used to have

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when you could sort of scrape sand across some ink?

473
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Yeah, but I think there's other ones of those on the Enterprise.

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I think that's not the only one.

475
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The thing is, it's supposed to be this luxury shit, right?

476
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Honest to God, the materials that they've made this out.

477
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It looks like a good sneeze would set it all off, doesn't it?

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I thought it was impressive at the time.

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So...

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This is super creepy and weird.

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Like, what's this?

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And like, look how tense she is.

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Like, it's really unpleasant.

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Like, she's not...

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Once upon a time, I was sitting in a cafe in Brian, yeah.

486
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And a fella popped up on Grinder and went, can you feel this?

487
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And he blew on my back.

488
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He was literally behind me.

489
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He was blowing in my ear in the middle of a cafe.

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So I was a bit like Troy at the scene, very tense, but very turned

491
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on.

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So I kind of get it, all right?

493
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So yeah, no, this is like, this is incredibly creepy.

494
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And and he is doing the thing that he does with all the other

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delegates as well.

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Do you know what I mean?

497
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We saw in the 1st scene that Deanna feels like she never escapes

498
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the responsibilities of being counselorant like it's a mum and

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it's the wormhole and she can't have any ice cream because the

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computer tells her not to and all of that.

501
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And so that's what he goes straight for in order to get to her.

502
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And so like, is he kind of, is he creeping on her?

503
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Is he just like, is this some gross kind of seduction community

504
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thing happening?

505
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Watching that scene there where he was sort of messing up her hair

506
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in a really obscene way.

507
00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:18.599
Without the dialogue or without hearing them saying the words, it

508
00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.059
really looked like quite unpleasant.

509
00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.700
Like she was going through something unpleasant, even though I

510
00:22:23.700 --> 00:22:26.579
think at the dialogue, she's going, hmm, you know, really enjoying

511
00:22:26.579 --> 00:22:26.759
it.

512
00:22:26.819 --> 00:22:27.779
Yeah, yeah.

513
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.359
The body language is suggesting something else.

514
00:22:30.420 --> 00:22:32.339
Yeah, yeah.

515
00:22:33.059 --> 00:22:38.099
I mean, part of the problem is that, uh, you know, Star Trek, as

516
00:22:38.099 --> 00:22:41.039
I've said before, doesn't do subtext and people just come out and

517
00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:44.819
say exactly how they're feeling about things and they don't talk

518
00:22:44.819 --> 00:22:45.779
like normal people.

519
00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:47.220
They talk like space people.

520
00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:49.859
And so he just comes across as a kind of creeper.

521
00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:51.119
I think.

522
00:22:51.180 --> 00:22:54.180
Do you remember when, sorry, anyway, I jump about the place.

523
00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:58.740
Do you remember when Dax got sick to death of Wolf, not noticing

524
00:22:58.740 --> 00:22:58.980
her?

525
00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:01.680
So she goes to him, look, Grooker and Quark.

526
00:23:01.740 --> 00:23:04.799
They're on the same page and at least he notices her and he looks

527
00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:06.059
at her like, what are you talking about?

528
00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.420
And then she just goes, oh, computer, give me a bat lift and beats

529
00:23:09.420 --> 00:23:10.200
the shit out of him.

530
00:23:10.259 --> 00:23:13.259
And I'm like, finally, you know, we're diving it all completely

531
00:23:13.259 --> 00:23:14.160
spelled out.

532
00:23:14.819 --> 00:23:17.220
Sometimes they do stop text.

533
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:18.059
Not often.

534
00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.039
It's worth celebrating when they do.

535
00:23:20.099 --> 00:23:23.519
Not in next gen, though, particularly, you know.

536
00:23:23.579 --> 00:23:26.640
Is it a case of finding their feet, though, sort of?

537
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.460
Or is it just... they haven't bothered?

538
00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:30.420
Yeah, I think so.

539
00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:32.339
But I actually like this too.

540
00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.839
I know it's shitty, but the captain says, you know, the Federation

541
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:40.079
could find themselves buying a proverbial lemon and data just

542
00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.779
turns and says a proverbial lemon because you just think that's

543
00:23:42.779 --> 00:23:43.200
what's that?

544
00:23:43.259 --> 00:23:48.420
And he goes later data, which I just think like we characterised

545
00:23:48.420 --> 00:23:49.140
data that way.

546
00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.440
I think that that's a kind of funny and very efficient way of just

547
00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:53.099
doing that.

548
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:54.420
I think it's true.

549
00:23:54.539 --> 00:23:57.539
That absolutely is a trope of next gen of someone saying something

550
00:23:57.539 --> 00:24:00.059
a data saying, well, what does that mean?

551
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:00.420
You know?

552
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:04.619
But then usually the episode, like, in series one, he would be

553
00:24:04.619 --> 00:24:07.380
walking around with a lemon, you know, going, I'm really trying to

554
00:24:07.380 --> 00:24:09.240
figure out what's proverbial about it.

555
00:24:09.299 --> 00:24:14.579
Also, the other thing is too, because Pecan's a space person, he

556
00:24:14.579 --> 00:24:19.019
can't actually say the Federation could end up buying a lemon. you

557
00:24:19.019 --> 00:24:19.559
know what I mean?

558
00:24:19.619 --> 00:24:21.420
Because that's what people say.

559
00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:24.299
And so he has to say a proverbial lemon as well.

560
00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:26.160
And so I like data hanging a hat on that.

561
00:24:26.220 --> 00:24:30.779
So here are the... baffling is how...

562
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.480
Ferengi are always characterised as being incredibly

563
00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:34.619
misogynistic.

564
00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:42.420
And It's commented on all the time by the regulars of various

565
00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:46.980
shows who are also behaving, you know, generally misogynistic

566
00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:47.279
way.

567
00:24:47.700 --> 00:24:50.519
As exemplified by this episode.

568
00:24:50.579 --> 00:24:52.380
Meanwhile, he is Raal.

569
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.759
Counsellor Troy, just throw any old thing on is a very sexist line

570
00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:57.180
you know?

571
00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:58.200
Yeah, yeah.

572
00:24:58.259 --> 00:24:59.819
Look, where is?

573
00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:00.779
What is he wearing?

574
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:02.339
Is it?

575
00:25:02.339 --> 00:25:02.940
Very 91.

576
00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:05.640
It's really bad. isn't it?

577
00:25:05.700 --> 00:25:08.579
And you, hers isn't too much, but she's got this sort of blue

578
00:25:08.579 --> 00:25:09.900
cocktail dress going here.

579
00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:11.339
Very strange.

580
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:12.420
Yeah.

581
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:13.920
I mean, I don't know.

582
00:25:13.980 --> 00:25:15.299
I don't mind.

583
00:25:15.299 --> 00:25:18.420
But I'll just say something very weird.

584
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:19.799
What's that?

585
00:25:19.859 --> 00:25:22.259
You don't like seeing straight people kiss on telly?

586
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:24.779
I definitely don't like seeing that.

587
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:25.079
No.

588
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:30.119
I don't realise seeing gay people go. not seeing much kissing, if

589
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:30.599
I'm honest.

590
00:25:31.619 --> 00:25:34.140
There's too much hair going on here.

591
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:35.819
I realise we're just out of the 80s.

592
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:37.259
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

593
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.019
And she's letting her hair down as well because normally it's art

594
00:25:40.019 --> 00:25:40.559
for the job.

595
00:25:40.619 --> 00:25:43.740
I don't know who is drinking champagne out of those glasses.

596
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:44.579
That an atrocity.

597
00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.960
They're clearly plastic goblets.

598
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:54.720
Oh, I did like this line where she says, no, it's moving too fast

599
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:55.380
for me.

600
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:57.539
I'm moving too fast for me.

601
00:25:57.599 --> 00:25:59.279
Oh, that's it, yeah, sorry.

602
00:25:59.339 --> 00:26:00.480
Yeah, I'm moving, trust me.

603
00:26:00.539 --> 00:26:00.720
Yeah.

604
00:26:00.779 --> 00:26:01.259
Yeah.

605
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:05.400
So she's acknowledging, but this is not her usual pattern of

606
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:05.819
behaviour.

607
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.880
Like, it would be fun if we thought this was fun.

608
00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:09.900
Do you know what I mean?

609
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:12.599
If like he was having his end away and it didn't kind of matter

610
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:17.099
and she was too and like she's been exhausted by work and she

611
00:26:17.099 --> 00:26:20.519
thinks he's hot and she goes, yeah, let's fucking we'll then get

612
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:21.420
on with our lives.

613
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:23.700
But this Star Trek can't do that.

614
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:25.859
And although it wants to, do you know what I mean?

615
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.000
And where it hints at it, I think, is Riker's lack of jealousy

616
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:31.079
about Raal.

617
00:26:31.380 --> 00:26:35.640
Well, I mean, it's clearly sort of bubbling under, but it's never

618
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:37.140
explicitly stated, yeah.

619
00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:42.119
No, I think there's that one moment where he just smiles and says

620
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:46.200
you know, if you, you know, like, and he's honest.

621
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:50.759
I think that it is the fact that he's he's absolutely lacking in

622
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:54.539
jealousy about this because he trusts her to do what's right for

623
00:26:54.539 --> 00:26:56.819
her and he's known her for long enough.

624
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:58.079
And I thought that was good.

625
00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:01.259
Yeah, we go. doing some acting.

626
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:03.720
Mendoza's doing some poison acting.

627
00:27:03.779 --> 00:27:06.900
But you know what, where I figured this episode was going when I

628
00:27:06.900 --> 00:27:11.579
watched it when we did the masterpiece society, was that he was

629
00:27:11.579 --> 00:27:15.839
using Troy as a way of diverting Riker.

630
00:27:15.900 --> 00:27:17.400
I figured that was all part of his plan.

631
00:27:17.460 --> 00:27:19.200
And what it turned out was it?

632
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.079
No, he just he has fallen for her and he wants to drag her around

633
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:22.799
the universe with him.

634
00:27:22.859 --> 00:27:24.000
Yeah, yeah.

635
00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:27.900
And well, I mean, he's he's come on to Troy in the last scene.

636
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:32.940
Riker's only being made one of the ambassadors in this scene.

637
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.160
So it's clearly not a ploy.

638
00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:37.380
But they're happy to make him an asshole.

639
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.900
That would have been like the ultimate arshole move, wouldn't it?

640
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:40.980
Yeah, yeah.

641
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:46.619
Is he doing it so that she doesn't spring him?

642
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:48.779
I think he's doing it because he's horny.

643
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.019
Well, I think he is too, but there is that sort of cute line about

644
00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:55.920
oh, I think, you know, maybe my human side overwhelmed, my human

645
00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:00.240
desires overwhelmed my beta Zoid instincts, and they both say that

646
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.279
at different times in the episode.

647
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.200
I don't know.

648
00:28:04.259 --> 00:28:06.299
So you look at the walls here.

649
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.960
I have actually recently been installing carpet on my walls.

650
00:28:12.299 --> 00:28:15.299
I sort of walk past and stroke it, you know?

651
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.180
It's classic 24th century design.

652
00:28:19.619 --> 00:28:23.279
So classic, it's been seen recently in 2023.

653
00:28:26.460 --> 00:28:27.900
Oh, was that?

654
00:28:27.900 --> 00:28:29.400
Dr. Bev's only seen there.

655
00:28:29.460 --> 00:28:31.619
Just sort of looking over a bit worrying.

656
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.579
Taking out by a mysterious ailment number one.

657
00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.220
Who could possibly be behind this?

658
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:42.180
Who could?

659
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:44.819
Well, he just is the Fringi for the Fringi immediately.

660
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:50.279
And so, Riker, this is Riker. standing in for an indisposed

661
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:56.460
ambassador before he does it again in the host. way he carries

662
00:28:56.460 --> 00:28:56.940
himself.

663
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:59.039
I mean, he's all man, isn't he?

664
00:28:59.099 --> 00:29:01.619
Look at his swagger as he walks down this corridor.

665
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:06.359
His shoulders back, his arms swing, his limbs are all very loose.

666
00:29:06.420 --> 00:29:09.000
He's really something.

667
00:29:09.059 --> 00:29:11.220
I mean, I love frakes.

668
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.480
I love Jonathan Frakes so much and we still have him and he, you

669
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.420
know, like he's like a grandfather to the franchise now.

670
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:19.380
He's still directing.

671
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.299
Sorry to interrupt you.

672
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.400
Did you see at the back of the bridge set there?

673
00:29:23.460 --> 00:29:25.619
Somebody was wearing one of the old series 2 uniforms?

674
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:26.940
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

675
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:28.380
They're still doing that in series three.

676
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:32.759
So it takes a while to rotate those uniforms off and so there are

677
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:34.440
a few of those on bit players.

678
00:29:34.500 --> 00:29:38.039
And in fact, it seems to be that in, because those uniforms are

679
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:39.599
just from last year, aren't they?

680
00:29:39.660 --> 00:29:42.539
So they don't replace them all straight away.

681
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:43.680
It does take a little while.

682
00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:45.240
They're a vast improvement, I think.

683
00:29:45.420 --> 00:29:49.980
No one can act in Spandex. tiny little shuttle set that they're

684
00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:50.160
a.

685
00:29:50.220 --> 00:29:53.460
I mean, by the time we get to DS night, It's like a house, you

686
00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:55.019
know Yeah, yeah, yeah.

687
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:56.519
So they've built that, though.

688
00:29:56.579 --> 00:29:58.259
Like that sets the little...

689
00:29:58.380 --> 00:29:59.880
I love the little Ferengi pod.

690
00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:00.839
I think it's adorable.

691
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:05.099
I can't help but notice that the bars are wormhole looks like one

692
00:30:05.099 --> 00:30:07.140
of their stock planets with a hole in the middle.

693
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.039
With a hole in the middle.

694
00:30:08.099 --> 00:30:11.279
But look at the look at the wibbly things inside it.

695
00:30:11.339 --> 00:30:14.579
You know, this is a forerunner of what we're going to see on Deep

696
00:30:14.579 --> 00:30:15.240
Space Nine.

697
00:30:15.299 --> 00:30:17.880
This just goes to show you the difference between your standard

698
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:22.200
Star Trek budget, which is what this episode has, and the £18000000

699
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.160
that they had, sorry, dollars, for emissary when they did the worm

700
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:26.640
role in that.

701
00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:30.480
And I mean, they use that effect over and over again, don't they?

702
00:30:30.539 --> 00:30:32.819
I mean, once they realise it in the computer, they've got it.

703
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.319
I mean, it is pretty good.

704
00:30:34.380 --> 00:30:35.339
Oh it's great.

705
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:35.880
It should.

706
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:37.500
Yeah.

707
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.799
This stuff just look like they are going sort of through a gay

708
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:41.279
disco.

709
00:30:41.339 --> 00:30:42.599
There's lots of sort of sporty lights.

710
00:30:42.660 --> 00:30:46.380
It is very heavily made up in this scene, I think, Raal.

711
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:51.299
But yes, they are really going for one another, aren't they?

712
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.099
And so this is the thing too.

713
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:59.640
So he's detected that she is anxious about, oh my god, look at her

714
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:00.420
makeup.

715
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.779
Okay, look at the chrysalians, mate.

716
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:04.740
I know.

717
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:05.460
I know.

718
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:10.920
That is exactly the sort of makeup, but when Kate Mulgrove said

719
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:13.740
they were testing us, all right, our acting abilities to act

720
00:31:13.740 --> 00:31:15.000
alongside these people.

721
00:31:15.059 --> 00:31:16.859
Yeah, yeah.

722
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:18.599
Yeah, holy crap.

723
00:31:18.660 --> 00:31:19.680
I love this too.

724
00:31:19.740 --> 00:31:24.119
So the proposal, benefits to the people of Barsan Planetary

725
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:26.099
Republic, the Barsanian planet.

726
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.039
So this is the Federation proposal, and they've stayed up all

727
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:33.180
night producing these sort of 7 bullet points under 2 headings, one

728
00:31:33.180 --> 00:31:37.079
two, oh, no, it's, it's, uh, it's 8 under that 1st hand.

729
00:31:37.140 --> 00:31:38.160
I can't bear this scene.

730
00:31:38.220 --> 00:31:40.019
Oh, there is.

731
00:31:40.019 --> 00:31:43.380
You don't like feed, and I don't, you know, like I don't mind.

732
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.960
I don't mind my feet being touched, but I don't want to see some

733
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:47.880
woman having a feet all gross.

734
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.079
It could be the 1st thing we've seen, you know, in our run so

735
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:52.319
far.

736
00:31:52.380 --> 00:31:56.519
Well, we did see Dr. Fox cutting his own toenails, though.

737
00:31:57.180 --> 00:31:59.039
I don't know, though.

738
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:00.779
It was gross.

739
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:02.759
I didn't think that was a particularly gross.

740
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:07.200
Like, like, I'm not, you know, like I'm not, it was squeamish or

741
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.259
anything, but I thought that was absolutely unsexy and utterly

742
00:32:10.259 --> 00:32:10.619
gross.

743
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.500
They are being sensual with each other here.

744
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:14.819
Why isn't this sexy?

745
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.400
Because it's he's horrible.

746
00:32:17.460 --> 00:32:18.720
I don't know.

747
00:32:18.779 --> 00:32:23.099
She picks up the bottle in a minute and starts moving it, all the

748
00:32:23.099 --> 00:32:24.420
oil over his chest, you know?

749
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.940
It's as gross as anything.

750
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:28.200
Why is it so gross?

751
00:32:28.259 --> 00:32:29.339
I can't get over.

752
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.079
But can I say one thing to you?

753
00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:31.920
Yeah.

754
00:32:35.819 --> 00:32:39.180
La, la, la, la, la, la, la.

755
00:32:39.180 --> 00:32:41.039
What is going on?

756
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.799
It's dreadful, bad.

757
00:32:43.859 --> 00:32:46.319
The music is so cheesy.

758
00:32:46.380 --> 00:32:49.440
I hear if ever I'm reading a Mills and Boone, you know?

759
00:32:49.500 --> 00:32:53.339
Yeah, no, but like I, you know, like I am someone who actually

760
00:32:53.339 --> 00:32:55.380
likes romance.

761
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:56.279
Do you know what I mean?

762
00:32:56.339 --> 00:32:57.900
Like, obviously not straight romance.

763
00:32:57.960 --> 00:32:59.039
We've had more than enough of that.

764
00:32:59.099 --> 00:33:02.339
But, like, I...

765
00:33:02.339 --> 00:33:05.640
But, you know, like, I'd like it as a genre.

766
00:33:05.700 --> 00:33:08.819
I think it's fun and like I think romantic comedy is really fun.

767
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.599
And I wish that this version of Star Trek could do it, but all of

768
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:17.579
the sex it does, like, fuck me, why is she doing that on my show?

769
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.339
And like, like...

770
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:21.180
Oh, horrible.

771
00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:26.519
It's it's even worse than the weird creepy horniness of Gene

772
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:28.500
Roddenbury in series one and two.

773
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:32.279
And it's now strange because this is too consenting adults not

774
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:37.140
behaving in a bad way in wearing a lot of makeup.

775
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.079
Neither of them are looking at their most attractive.

776
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:47.819
When I 1st saw you, I felt I had been waiting for you. my whole

777
00:33:47.819 --> 00:33:48.119
life.

778
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:50.819
It is trying.

779
00:33:50.819 --> 00:33:53.279
Yeah, Beth Bart.

780
00:33:53.339 --> 00:33:56.579
Like, they're just having a fuck, you know, like, why does it have

781
00:33:56.579 --> 00:33:57.299
to be like this?

782
00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.700
Well, you just shove it in already.

783
00:33:59.819 --> 00:34:00.900
Let's just get rid of it.

784
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:01.319
Come on.

785
00:34:01.859 --> 00:34:05.579
Let's eat some more chocolate and then watch telly and then have

786
00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:06.180
more sex.

787
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:07.140
Do you know what I mean?

788
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.960
Like, it's just nothing really like anything that anyone has

789
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:11.280
actually enjoyed, I think.

790
00:34:11.340 --> 00:34:12.599
In fact, you know what?

791
00:34:12.659 --> 00:34:14.460
Sorry to keep bringing in my personal life.

792
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.940
Every time I've tried doing this, you know, candles and oil and

793
00:34:17.940 --> 00:34:18.480
things like that.

794
00:34:18.539 --> 00:34:21.300
It's just never as good as just having sex.

795
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.199
Just have sex.

796
00:34:22.260 --> 00:34:22.920
Ridiculous.

797
00:34:22.980 --> 00:34:24.599
It's just ridiculous.

798
00:34:24.659 --> 00:34:26.699
It's not about his family.

799
00:34:26.760 --> 00:34:27.780
Do you know what I mean?

800
00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:29.880
Well, she's like, don't do that.

801
00:34:29.940 --> 00:34:31.440
She must be frothing.

802
00:34:31.500 --> 00:34:34.980
I was like, I'm so sorry.

803
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.679
It's really gross.

804
00:34:37.739 --> 00:34:39.119
Yeah.

805
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:41.940
I've learned to live with my telepathy as you have.

806
00:34:42.539 --> 00:34:45.659
And the music is playing throughout this entire season.

807
00:34:45.780 --> 00:34:46.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

808
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.159
Lots of knowing, sort of longing looks at each other.

809
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.280
I mean, ooh, look at her cushions as well.

810
00:34:53.340 --> 00:34:54.179
I don't look comfortable.

811
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.440
They don't.

812
00:34:55.500 --> 00:34:57.059
No, they really don't.

813
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:58.139
They're space portions.

814
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.320
Nothing's worse than those triangular cushions in DS9.

815
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:02.820
They look so uncomfortable.

816
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.760
You'd need about 15 just to get your head locked up.

817
00:35:07.380 --> 00:35:12.300
Oh god, I wasn't realising I needed my telepathy until I met you

818
00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:12.659
Deanna.

819
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:13.739
Oh, God.

820
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:14.639
Oh, God.

821
00:35:14.699 --> 00:35:15.480
Oh, God.

822
00:35:16.739 --> 00:35:18.059
She's getting on top.

823
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:18.900
Do you remember that shit?

824
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:19.860
straddling him.

825
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.139
No, she's moving over and decorously.

826
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:23.340
They're just going in for the hug.

827
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.139
Oh, thank God, a wormhole.

828
00:35:25.260 --> 00:35:27.239
I've never been so grateful.

829
00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:31.920
I've never been so grateful for techno babble in Star Trek.

830
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.380
That's why it's the tiny set because it's on gimbals.

831
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.260
Like they're actually literally moving the set around rather than

832
00:35:37.260 --> 00:35:38.280
moving the cameras around.

833
00:35:38.340 --> 00:35:39.239
That's adorable.

834
00:35:39.300 --> 00:35:40.199
Look at that.

835
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:43.920
The crazy coloured lights that were going on as well.

836
00:35:43.980 --> 00:35:45.599
Yeah, it's really fun.

837
00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:46.320
That's awesome.

838
00:35:46.380 --> 00:35:47.039
You know what?

839
00:35:47.099 --> 00:35:50.099
I bet LeVar Burton and Brett Spider looked at each other whilst

840
00:35:50.099 --> 00:35:52.679
this was all going on going, how did our careers come to this?

841
00:35:52.739 --> 00:35:55.139
No, I reckon they're going, this is so much fun.

842
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:58.260
We get to ride in this thing. paid for this.

843
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.260
It's adorable.

844
00:36:01.500 --> 00:36:03.840
Oh, shy.

845
00:36:03.900 --> 00:36:05.280
Oh, this is where that line is.

846
00:36:05.340 --> 00:36:06.960
Yeah, I could be stuck here forever.

847
00:36:07.019 --> 00:36:08.579
Oh, don't worry, Geordie.

848
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.019
I'll be here with you.

849
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.539
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah.

850
00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:13.320
Yeah.

851
00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:16.800
So, and even the 70 years thing in Voyager.

852
00:36:16.860 --> 00:36:17.699
Do you know what I mean?

853
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:19.679
Like at 70 or 80 years before?

854
00:36:20.219 --> 00:36:23.699
those Ferengi are going to, you know, they're going to run into

855
00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:24.719
those Ferengi and stuff.

856
00:36:24.780 --> 00:36:30.119
So even having that a galaxy of that scale, like this is the scale

857
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:33.599
of the galaxy, it takes 70 years to get from one quadrant to

858
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:33.840
another.

859
00:36:33.900 --> 00:36:38.820
Well, I do have to say that during a Deanna Troy romance episode, I

860
00:36:38.820 --> 00:36:41.639
never really thought that Data and Geordie were going to be

861
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:44.219
stranded across the universe.

862
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.380
Like I always knew they would get home.

863
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:47.219
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

864
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:47.940
Oh, yeah, yeah.

865
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:49.739
But I kind of like...

866
00:36:49.739 --> 00:36:51.239
Nathan, here we go.

867
00:36:51.300 --> 00:36:52.380
Oh, here we go.

868
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:53.159
Ad break.

869
00:36:53.219 --> 00:36:54.659
Oh, see.

870
00:36:55.019 --> 00:36:57.360
That, oh, look at that.

871
00:36:57.420 --> 00:36:58.920
Her bum.

872
00:36:58.980 --> 00:36:59.579
Okay.

873
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.760
So this scene, is this the scene that was famously written because

874
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:04.920
the 2 women were not getting on?

875
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.380
Oh, that right?

876
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:11.460
Well, I thought I remembered that there was one of these scenes.

877
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.460
So these scenes are not that common in Star Trek.

878
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:15.780
The Next Generation.

879
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:18.840
But a scene where they both talk about their love lives.

880
00:37:19.260 --> 00:37:21.059
Oh, Nathan.

881
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:21.420
Yeah.

882
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:25.320
So I said last week it was episode one, but it's episode 2 of

883
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.360
series 4 of Lower Decks, where Shacks and Ransom are doing this

884
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:33.360
set of exercises in these outfits.

885
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:35.460
It is on board the Sarita.

886
00:37:35.460 --> 00:37:40.139
Including this thing where they're kind of facing one another with

887
00:37:40.139 --> 00:37:42.179
their legs out, kind of stretching each other.

888
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.159
It's just like, what, you do with a child?

889
00:37:44.219 --> 00:37:47.340
You know, when you do sort of row, row?

890
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:48.059
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

891
00:37:48.059 --> 00:37:49.739
Back and forth, what is this?

892
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:51.300
What sort of exercising is this?

893
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.699
I don't know.

894
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:55.199
Can I say something really, really bad?

895
00:37:55.260 --> 00:37:56.760
What's that?

896
00:37:56.820 --> 00:37:58.619
Well, that is so tight.

897
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.619
I can see that Gates McFadden has not shaved for this episode.

898
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.280
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. camel toe here, but

899
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.139
I actually like...

900
00:38:07.139 --> 00:38:08.820
I actually like this.

901
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.900
The thing that Gate says, the thing that Beverly says, which is, oh

902
00:38:12.900 --> 00:38:14.460
I had a relationship like that.

903
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.980
I fell in love immediately, it lasted a week.

904
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:17.760
It was really hot.

905
00:38:17.820 --> 00:38:20.099
And I just sort of think, yep, okay, that's what we want.

906
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:21.780
Oh, Frankie, that long?

907
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.239
And then, did you see it?

908
00:38:24.300 --> 00:38:25.380
Yeah, I did.

909
00:38:25.500 --> 00:38:26.340
And then the woman walks off.

910
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.840
I mean, once again, I'm like, thank God we're doing dick jokes.

911
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.000
And then he goes up to her and tries the same thing.

912
00:38:33.059 --> 00:38:36.059
The next woman comes along and he's about to do the same thing.

913
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.880
I mean, there's nothing sophisticated about that humour, but it's

914
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:40.500
not really like Star Trek, is it?

915
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.320
Well, that's what I think that's what's funny about it.

916
00:38:43.380 --> 00:38:46.440
I think that the reason that that's funny is that it's so un Star

917
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:46.920
Trek.

918
00:38:49.260 --> 00:38:52.980
You know, just watching this as a series of images.

919
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:56.519
This may be the most scariest episode I've watched here.

920
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.480
That leotard was going straight up.

921
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:03.420
I don't even want to say.

922
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:04.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

923
00:39:04.739 --> 00:39:06.059
They just don't care, do they?

924
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:07.739
terrible, isn't it?

925
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:13.440
So again, see, he goes right for the thing we start to see it.

926
00:39:13.500 --> 00:39:15.059
And look, the camera moves on him.

927
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.519
He's looking like an all-American boy.

928
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.380
He looks sounds sympathetic.

929
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:21.900
You know, the cameras are moving close in.

930
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:25.619
Like all of that stuff that could actually have been kind of funny

931
00:39:25.619 --> 00:39:27.000
and that cut.

932
00:39:27.059 --> 00:39:32.519
That sudden cut away from that speech into this guy saying he

933
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:34.260
doesn't want to buy the wormhole anymore.

934
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.380
And that's clearly a comedy jump card, isn't it?

935
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:37.980
in the script?

936
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:39.179
That's surely what it is.

937
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.340
But they can't commit to it.

938
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:43.139
No, because they can't commit to it.

939
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:43.980
And it's...

940
00:39:43.980 --> 00:39:46.380
No, I can't help but notice you and I are generally laughing at

941
00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:47.639
all the things they're getting wrong here.

942
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:48.960
Yeah, yeah.

943
00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:49.800
Yeah.

944
00:39:49.860 --> 00:39:54.239
But I just don't think I just I think that this could have been

945
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:54.840
funnier.

946
00:39:55.139 --> 00:39:59.340
I think like I said earlier, on the page, it kind of works.

947
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:00.360
Yeah.

948
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:03.659
They're just not relaxed enough to...

949
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:05.039
I think that it as it should.

950
00:40:05.099 --> 00:40:09.360
I refuse to believe that any species would develop with that

951
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:11.699
cranium.

952
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:12.599
Big head.

953
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.880
Maybe they run into one another or something is part of a mating

954
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:18.420
ritual.

955
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.340
They just kind of smash heads together.

956
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:26.219
So that's it. has now taken out the chrysanthemums or whatever

957
00:40:26.219 --> 00:40:26.639
they're called.

958
00:40:26.699 --> 00:40:27.119
Yes.

959
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:32.820
Um, and so it's just, it's just Riker left now to, to bid for

960
00:40:32.820 --> 00:40:34.619
crimp hairs.

961
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:36.000
I'm getting desperate now.

962
00:40:36.059 --> 00:40:37.860
She's a the Bazan wormhole.

963
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:39.719
Crim hair's wormhole, yeah.

964
00:40:39.780 --> 00:40:40.079
Yeah.

965
00:40:40.860 --> 00:40:45.300
Those shuttles do look a little like eggboxes at this point.

966
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.760
Yeah, yeah, they're tiny, aren't they?

967
00:40:47.820 --> 00:40:51.659
There are bigger shuttles in series one and two, but I think the

968
00:40:51.659 --> 00:40:54.780
fact, I think the reason this is a shuttle pod rather than a

969
00:40:54.780 --> 00:40:58.980
shuttle craft is because they're mounting it on gimbals and so

970
00:40:58.980 --> 00:41:00.420
they're really doing the thing.

971
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.679
Savvy movie this episode is having 3 things happening.

972
00:41:04.739 --> 00:41:09.059
The Troy romance, the negotiations, and this, the other father, the

973
00:41:09.059 --> 00:41:13.079
worm up, you know. of them up, particularly Stella.

974
00:41:13.139 --> 00:41:16.320
But it means we're going we're constantly distracted as we're

975
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:17.460
going from story.

976
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:23.579
And, you know, like series 2 of Star Trek fails, I think, because

977
00:41:23.579 --> 00:41:25.260
most of the episodes are shit.

978
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:30.300
But series 2 of Star Trek, Star Trek, the Next Generation.

979
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:30.960
Yeah.

980
00:41:31.019 --> 00:41:38.400
But it, um, like it does this, it does the, a thing is happening

981
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:41.699
and we're just basically spending time with the crew while the

982
00:41:41.699 --> 00:41:42.300
thing happens.

983
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.239
And so this isn't a particularly urgent thing.

984
00:41:45.300 --> 00:41:47.280
Like there's no crisis in this.

985
00:41:47.340 --> 00:41:51.239
The closest that we get to any danger is that we might be stranded

986
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.420
on the other side of the galaxy and that happens to the Ferengi

987
00:41:54.420 --> 00:41:55.980
and that's basically why they're here.

988
00:41:56.039 --> 00:42:01.679
And it's kind of a fun comedy kind of ending or would be if anyone

989
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:04.320
involved in this knew how to make things funny.

990
00:42:04.380 --> 00:42:08.760
Like, even that reaction, do you know, Dr. Arador's reaction to

991
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.460
the wormhole disappearing is supposed to be a thing.

992
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:14.699
Yeah, so now what's happening in this in this scene?

993
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:16.139
What's happening here?

994
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:18.659
Again, it's too obvious, isn't it?

995
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.539
He's going, oh, there's the wormhole, just where I expected it to

996
00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:25.800
be, and then we just sit on his face for ages while she does some

997
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:27.119
comedy shock.

998
00:42:27.179 --> 00:42:28.019
Oh no, it's gone.

999
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.199
Yeah, because we can't we can't really be properly funny.

1000
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.920
It looks like he's been to a spa now.

1001
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:36.480
He's got a sort of white robe.

1002
00:42:36.539 --> 00:42:38.940
Yeah, with his hairy chest out.

1003
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:39.599
Yeah.

1004
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:41.159
I mean, I like that.

1005
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:42.000
What was she wearing?

1006
00:42:42.059 --> 00:42:43.139
It's not that but he's gross.

1007
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.960
Yeah, but she's kind of wearing a sort of, I'm not going to let

1008
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.820
you touch my breasts again dress.

1009
00:42:48.059 --> 00:42:49.739
Don't you think?

1010
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.500
It's a little bit.

1011
00:42:52.500 --> 00:42:55.500
It's a little bit, it's a little, she's kind of gone off him

1012
00:42:55.500 --> 00:42:56.099
already.

1013
00:42:56.699 --> 00:43:00.059
And so she's wearing the, she's not wearing a sort of, he's my

1014
00:43:00.059 --> 00:43:04.500
giant col- day colitage sort of dress, but she's wearing, like, and

1015
00:43:04.500 --> 00:43:07.199
she's being a bit, I don't know.

1016
00:43:07.260 --> 00:43:10.500
I just don't know how to read this because it doesn't work with

1017
00:43:10.500 --> 00:43:12.179
glassware and candles.

1018
00:43:12.179 --> 00:43:13.320
I know, what's that as well?

1019
00:43:13.380 --> 00:43:16.019
is to suggest a sense of sort of sensuality.

1020
00:43:16.139 --> 00:43:17.400
I don't know.

1021
00:43:17.460 --> 00:43:18.719
It's just weird.

1022
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:22.320
No, but they're all, like, why are they sitting like 6 metres away

1023
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:23.760
from one another and stuff?

1024
00:43:23.820 --> 00:43:25.739
You know, like they're across this table.

1025
00:43:26.219 --> 00:43:30.179
You know, this, like, I actually think that he makes a reasonable

1026
00:43:30.179 --> 00:43:30.599
point.

1027
00:43:30.659 --> 00:43:32.460
Like, I'm a negotiator.

1028
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.099
I work out what people want.

1029
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.139
I sense an advantage, I go in and do it.

1030
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:38.099
I'm just doing that.

1031
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:39.179
Do you know what I mean?

1032
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:40.619
It doesn't seem that bad.

1033
00:43:40.739 --> 00:43:48.960
Um, and then so this seems like a kind of manufactured argument

1034
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:50.519
like a manufactured thing.

1035
00:43:50.579 --> 00:43:52.019
And the other thing that I like about.

1036
00:43:52.139 --> 00:43:54.059
He is a telepath, yeah.

1037
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:58.800
And he's using it to an advantage within the role that he's, what

1038
00:43:58.800 --> 00:43:59.460
is wrong with that?

1039
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:03.900
She's condemning him because...

1040
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:04.500
Oh, she's wrong.

1041
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.920
Because he doesn't declare that he's a telegraph telegraph.

1042
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:08.880
I meant to say that.

1043
00:44:08.940 --> 00:44:09.960
A telepath.

1044
00:44:10.019 --> 00:44:13.559
She, he won't admit it, so he thinks she thinks it's an unfair

1045
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:14.159
advantage.

1046
00:44:14.219 --> 00:44:15.960
But then his point lands.

1047
00:44:16.019 --> 00:44:18.000
It's like, oh so do you tell the Romulan?

1048
00:44:18.059 --> 00:44:18.840
Do you know what I mean?

1049
00:44:18.900 --> 00:44:20.460
That it's an unfair advantage?

1050
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.219
And it's watching... next to the captain on the bridge.

1051
00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:24.360
Yeah, that's right.

1052
00:44:24.420 --> 00:44:27.239
But, you know, she kind of makes the point, well, this is life and

1053
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:28.500
death and the other one's money.

1054
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:29.280
Do you know what I mean?

1055
00:44:29.340 --> 00:44:31.619
I'm keeping my crew safe and you're just trying to make more

1056
00:44:31.619 --> 00:44:32.039
money.

1057
00:44:32.099 --> 00:44:35.039
And I guess, okay, maybe that land, so maybe this conversation

1058
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:38.159
does actually work, but from a character point of view, it's like

1059
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:38.639
super weird.

1060
00:44:38.699 --> 00:44:41.340
Like now they're all pissing with each other for no reason.

1061
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:45.900
Because they keep coming back to this well of her being a bit

1062
00:44:45.900 --> 00:44:48.780
uncomfortable with her telepathic side and the fact that she's

1063
00:44:48.780 --> 00:44:51.179
half human, half-based side.

1064
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:52.860
Do they?

1065
00:44:52.860 --> 00:44:53.460
No, no, they do.

1066
00:44:53.579 --> 00:44:54.480
They never mention that.

1067
00:44:54.539 --> 00:44:57.179
Whenever the waxana Troy comes along, she's talking to her

1068
00:44:57.179 --> 00:45:00.480
telepathically, and she goes, you know, talk with your human voice

1069
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:01.139
mother, you know.

1070
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:01.920
Yeah, yeah.

1071
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:03.900
But none of it coheres.

1072
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.679
It never goes anywhere and we never land on what her issue is.

1073
00:45:07.739 --> 00:45:10.619
But I mean, it's just something they bring up to make her a bit

1074
00:45:10.619 --> 00:45:12.000
more interesting every now and again.

1075
00:45:12.059 --> 00:45:13.559
Like this conversation here.

1076
00:45:13.619 --> 00:45:16.500
Part of the problem is that this conversation needs to be about

1077
00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:21.300
their relationship under the guise of them having a disagreement

1078
00:45:21.300 --> 00:45:22.500
about work, doesn't it?

1079
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:23.880
Yes.

1080
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:25.019
Like, they're, yeah.

1081
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:25.739
Do you know what I mean?

1082
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:28.679
But instead they're having a conversation about work that doesn't

1083
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:31.739
work out, like so it's not a romance.

1084
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:32.699
Like it's not working.

1085
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:35.099
We don't know why they're suddenly shitty with one another.

1086
00:45:35.219 --> 00:45:39.059
Like she's there when, like, I don't know.

1087
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:39.840
Like, I don't know.

1088
00:45:39.900 --> 00:45:44.219
I just don't, she's not been listening to the, to the, was she in

1089
00:45:44.219 --> 00:45:47.400
the observation lounge when the negotiations were happening?

1090
00:45:47.460 --> 00:45:49.019
So like I just don't get it.

1091
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:49.920
I don't get it.

1092
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.239
I think we needed a moment of tension in the episode.

1093
00:45:54.300 --> 00:45:56.099
That's the entire reason why.

1094
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:58.380
And that's why it feels false because it comes out of nothing.

1095
00:45:58.500 --> 00:46:01.619
Yeah, but we have to break them up as well.

1096
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:02.639
Do you know what I mean?

1097
00:46:02.699 --> 00:46:06.960
Like she now has to be in the position where she's going to out

1098
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:11.460
him, you know, and be prepared to out him.

1099
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:13.980
So she's already got the sheets with him and she thinks he's not

1100
00:46:13.980 --> 00:46:14.820
playing fair.

1101
00:46:14.820 --> 00:46:18.599
And then we get him actually doing, you know, staging this stupid

1102
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:24.480
thing and her revealing it and potentially ruining his career

1103
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:26.039
although that doesn't happen, apparently.

1104
00:46:26.099 --> 00:46:28.380
You know, I don't know.

1105
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.559
I want is for Dr. Beverly in that sequence where they were in

1106
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:36.300
those fabulous leotards to say to her, is Deanna, you are in an

1107
00:46:36.300 --> 00:46:37.920
episode of Star Trek, the Next Generation.

1108
00:46:37.980 --> 00:46:40.019
He is not hanging to go anywhere.

1109
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.440
He's not hanging around and you're going to be miserable at the

1110
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.800
end, so just fuck him a lot for the next 45 minutes, all right?

1111
00:46:46.860 --> 00:46:47.699
Yeah, yeah.

1112
00:46:47.820 --> 00:46:50.519
Yeah, that's the problem, isn't it?

1113
00:46:50.579 --> 00:46:54.239
They can't do that for all of their talk about being modern in

1114
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:55.320
24th century.

1115
00:46:55.380 --> 00:46:58.980
They can't portray people just having sex for recreation.

1116
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:01.019
That was a good line.

1117
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:01.800
Sorry to interrupt.

1118
00:47:01.860 --> 00:47:02.820
What was that?

1119
00:47:02.820 --> 00:47:05.760
My relationship with Deanna is doing pretty well on its own.

1120
00:47:05.820 --> 00:47:06.360
Thank you very much.

1121
00:47:06.420 --> 00:47:09.300
It's just basically saying butt out of that.

1122
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.300
You enjoy it all you want, but I've got my own relationship with

1123
00:47:12.300 --> 00:47:12.480
her.

1124
00:47:12.539 --> 00:47:15.300
But I love his smile.

1125
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:17.880
Like the thing where he says the thing.

1126
00:47:17.940 --> 00:47:18.659
Do you know what I mean?

1127
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.300
And the whole idea is that he's good at negotiating and this is

1128
00:47:21.300 --> 00:47:24.900
part of his thing, he's actually trying to get some edge in the

1129
00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:28.199
negotiation and then he smiles and says, that's the 1st bad play

1130
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:29.400
I've seen you make.

1131
00:47:29.460 --> 00:47:33.539
And it's kind of like, I'm not jealous of her because, you know, we

1132
00:47:33.539 --> 00:47:37.260
loved one another and now we're friends and that's how things

1133
00:47:37.260 --> 00:47:37.619
are.

1134
00:47:38.340 --> 00:47:40.019
So, didn't we?

1135
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:41.760
Do you remember where she was at it?

1136
00:47:41.820 --> 00:47:44.400
Was it the masterpiece society where he's just given her a look?

1137
00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:46.139
And smile, yeah, yeah.

1138
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:48.179
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1139
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:52.139
I think he plays it as pissy in one beat, one shot, I think.

1140
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:53.340
But I like this.

1141
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:54.360
I like this.

1142
00:47:54.420 --> 00:47:57.059
And it's like he wins.

1143
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:01.079
He wins this thing and we've only ever seen Raal win and I think

1144
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:02.039
that's really good too.

1145
00:48:02.099 --> 00:48:04.440
And he's not the folks. the scene.

1146
00:48:04.500 --> 00:48:07.980
In our new Kurtzman trick where they bring back everyone and

1147
00:48:07.980 --> 00:48:08.280
anyone.

1148
00:48:08.340 --> 00:48:10.860
You know, even that punk from Star Trek 4 of making that

1149
00:48:10.860 --> 00:48:11.579
appearance.

1150
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:15.300
Bring back Ra for series 3 of Picard.

1151
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.760
And just because he just said to him there, you could have had

1152
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.400
Deanna, you know, if you'd only given her enough attention and got

1153
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:21.480
in for the kill, you know.

1154
00:48:21.539 --> 00:48:27.360
And just bring back Raw and Riker goes to him, you know, I got her

1155
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:27.840
in here.

1156
00:48:27.900 --> 00:48:28.500
That's right.

1157
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:31.199
You smug arsehole, you know.

1158
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:35.639
Oh, there's Michael Dorm in his makeup for his one line at the

1159
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:36.360
security console.

1160
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:37.920
Yeah, yeah, poor bastard.

1161
00:48:38.099 --> 00:48:40.679
Five hours of makeup for this.

1162
00:48:40.739 --> 00:48:42.360
Oh my god.

1163
00:48:42.420 --> 00:48:46.139
You got to wonder, you know, when they 1st have the fringy makeup

1164
00:48:46.139 --> 00:48:47.519
put on, what those actors think.

1165
00:48:49.260 --> 00:48:51.780
I mean, I think it's good makeup.

1166
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.159
It's great.

1167
00:48:53.219 --> 00:48:55.800
They must be like, what's happened to me?

1168
00:48:55.860 --> 00:48:57.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1169
00:48:57.659 --> 00:48:59.099
It is very strange, isn't it?

1170
00:48:59.159 --> 00:49:00.960
I'm just a wasting Star Trek Strange.

1171
00:49:01.019 --> 00:49:02.940
I'm claustrophobic.

1172
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:06.599
So I cannot imagine being encased in that much latex.

1173
00:49:06.659 --> 00:49:09.480
No, and not be, because, no, I'm assuming that says that they

1174
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:10.980
can't hear properly, you know?

1175
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:11.579
Right, right.

1176
00:49:12.300 --> 00:49:14.099
Very, very weird.

1177
00:49:15.059 --> 00:49:20.699
It was it was certainly a choice in 90s trek to put that much

1178
00:49:20.699 --> 00:49:22.019
latex on the screen, wasn't it?

1179
00:49:22.139 --> 00:49:24.900
And there's not as much in Kurtzman Trek, is there?

1180
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:25.559
Is there?

1181
00:49:25.619 --> 00:49:26.880
It's different.

1182
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:28.739
The makeup is sort of quite different.

1183
00:49:28.860 --> 00:49:31.800
They brought in all of these very sexy actors.

1184
00:49:31.860 --> 00:49:33.239
They're not going to hide them away.

1185
00:49:33.300 --> 00:49:33.719
No.

1186
00:49:33.780 --> 00:49:34.320
Yeah.

1187
00:49:34.380 --> 00:49:37.500
And I think bringing back people like the Andorians and the like

1188
00:49:37.500 --> 00:49:40.679
people who are just blue or like the Orians, they're just green

1189
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:41.219
but people.

1190
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:42.659
Like, I think that's a good choice.

1191
00:49:42.780 --> 00:49:47.280
I did just this week, pick up the Buffy Monster book, and it does

1192
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:49.139
detail in a series of 10 pictures.

1193
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:53.579
Doug Jones having his gentleman mace up. from beginning to end

1194
00:49:53.579 --> 00:49:57.059
because I recognise his face straight away and I consider that a

1195
00:49:57.059 --> 00:50:00.000
sort of rehearsal for his time of Saru in Discovery.

1196
00:50:00.059 --> 00:50:03.420
I mean, that is a lot of latex on Saru, isn't it?

1197
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:04.800
It's good makeup, though.

1198
00:50:04.860 --> 00:50:07.199
I think it's really good makeup.

1199
00:50:07.260 --> 00:50:09.480
I like him. jacket mouth.

1200
00:50:09.539 --> 00:50:10.679
Yeah, yeah.

1201
00:50:10.739 --> 00:50:11.400
Yeah.

1202
00:50:11.460 --> 00:50:12.420
But it works really well.

1203
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.159
You still get the actor's performance properly.

1204
00:50:14.219 --> 00:50:17.219
It doesn't hamper him, even though hardly any of them is visible.

1205
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:18.179
It's pretty great.

1206
00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:21.300
Oh my god, did you see the subtitles then?

1207
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:22.980
It said door whoosh is open.

1208
00:50:25.260 --> 00:50:27.599
Someone's earning their money there.

1209
00:50:27.900 --> 00:50:34.320
I watched the episode on Paramount Plus last night and like they

1210
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.719
were getting all of the subtitles wrong.

1211
00:50:36.780 --> 00:50:38.940
They kept saying betazoid wrong and stuff.

1212
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.820
They seem to be doing a better job here on whatever it is I'm

1213
00:50:41.820 --> 00:50:42.179
watching now.

1214
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:43.199
I can't even tell.

1215
00:50:43.260 --> 00:50:45.059
I'm watching on Netflix currently.

1216
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.099
I'm surprised you're still on Netflix.

1217
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:48.239
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1218
00:50:48.780 --> 00:50:50.579
Oh, here we go.

1219
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:52.679
Here's our big climax to the episode.

1220
00:50:52.739 --> 00:50:54.539
Yeah, but they're all just sort of standing around.

1221
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:55.559
Do you know what I mean?

1222
00:50:55.619 --> 00:50:56.880
It's really not that exciting.

1223
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.539
Do you remember when the Ferengi 1st appeared and it's just like

1224
00:51:00.539 --> 00:51:03.900
half the guy's face in the, is it Armin Shimmerman?

1225
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:07.019
The 1st big Ferengi thing?

1226
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:07.860
No.

1227
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:09.179
The last Outpost.

1228
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:10.019
Yeah.

1229
00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:11.340
Yeah, it is yeah.

1230
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:11.940
Yeah, yeah, okay.

1231
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:12.179
Yeah.

1232
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.280
Because he says in he says in the interviews.

1233
00:51:14.340 --> 00:51:16.139
That's why I was desperate to do cork.

1234
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:18.059
I was so embarrassed by that performance.

1235
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:19.320
I want to redeem myself.

1236
00:51:19.380 --> 00:51:24.900
But he does the good job of the Bajoran gift box thing in Haven

1237
00:51:24.900 --> 00:51:28.500
which is him as well. you say that dialogue there?

1238
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.920
I mean, he goes on behalf of the chrysanthemums. to do business

1239
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.619
with the Ferengi for the Bartam wormhole.

1240
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:39.119
Lines that you're only ever going to hear on Star Trek.

1241
00:51:39.179 --> 00:51:40.679
Yeah now here we see.

1242
00:51:40.739 --> 00:51:46.019
And like, I, again, she's playing it weird as well.

1243
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:47.820
Like, I...

1244
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.940
She's sort of angry.

1245
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.539
Look at this staging as well, where they've got everyone in

1246
00:51:54.539 --> 00:51:58.199
everyone's in the shot in a perfectly positioned place.

1247
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:00.360
Like it's a stage, you know?

1248
00:52:00.420 --> 00:52:01.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1249
00:52:01.980 --> 00:52:04.980
But again, this could have been funny.

1250
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:05.820
Do you know what I mean?

1251
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:08.760
Like then you've got the Ferengi who is absolutely doing his best

1252
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:13.260
to undermine Riles, like accidentally undermine Riles

1253
00:52:13.260 --> 00:52:15.539
protestations of innocence and stuff.

1254
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:20.099
You know, like it's just kind of ineptly made in all sorts of

1255
00:52:20.099 --> 00:52:20.340
ways.

1256
00:52:20.460 --> 00:52:22.980
I feel like DeGana's pulling the rug enough, you know?

1257
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:23.639
No.

1258
00:52:23.699 --> 00:52:25.500
He's not embarrassed by that.

1259
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:27.539
Why isn't she triumphant?

1260
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:29.340
She's winning, do you know what I mean?

1261
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:35.280
Like, she's sort of, she's very in control, but I just wanted a

1262
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.320
bit more sort of bitchy triumph from her.

1263
00:52:40.380 --> 00:52:41.280
Yeah, it's a shame.

1264
00:52:41.340 --> 00:52:44.940
It's a shame that they can't relax enough to make this.

1265
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.219
Yeah, I think that's the problem, isn't it?

1266
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:48.179
That is the problem.

1267
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:49.199
They're just not relaxed enough.

1268
00:52:49.260 --> 00:52:51.179
They're still trying to present this.

1269
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:54.239
You remember I said, I thought PS9 was a serious drama.

1270
00:52:54.300 --> 00:52:55.860
They're still trying to present it as well.

1271
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:56.639
That's right.

1272
00:52:56.699 --> 00:52:58.619
That poor Barzan woman in that shot.

1273
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:01.679
The more I see her makeup, every time I see her makeup, she goes

1274
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:04.380
up about .5 on the Beaumont scale.

1275
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:05.880
It's a bit rough.

1276
00:53:06.539 --> 00:53:09.780
This is my charts on American television.

1277
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:11.579
I've got a big row in Star Trek.

1278
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:16.139
Oh, dear.

1279
00:53:16.739 --> 00:53:21.239
It is, I'll tell you what, it is nice that there are consequences

1280
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:22.619
to this episode, though.

1281
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:23.400
You know?

1282
00:53:23.460 --> 00:53:27.539
And it's nice that those consequences are completely comic because

1283
00:53:27.539 --> 00:53:29.760
in that episode, false profits.

1284
00:53:29.820 --> 00:53:33.360
They have to go down, um, pretend to be the primitives on this

1285
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:36.539
planet and try and bring down this religion that they've created

1286
00:53:36.539 --> 00:53:38.219
you know, even Janeway's in on the fun.

1287
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:42.360
So, if this isn't quite as fun as it should be, The consequences

1288
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:45.119
of this episode are more fun, man.

1289
00:53:45.179 --> 00:53:50.820
So maybe someone is recognising that this is supposed to be a

1290
00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:55.320
comedy on paper and they just fail at it being funny because

1291
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:57.360
they're too busy being Star Trek.

1292
00:53:57.420 --> 00:54:01.500
And then they realise, well, we can be a bit more relaxed and we

1293
00:54:01.500 --> 00:54:01.980
can be funny.

1294
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:06.960
I mean, Voyager series 3 is not, you know, peopled by huge numbers

1295
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.659
of actors at the height of their powers or anything like that.

1296
00:54:10.619 --> 00:54:13.380
Maybe 3 actors.

1297
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:14.159
Well, yeah, yeah.

1298
00:54:14.219 --> 00:54:17.820
I think Ethan Phillips is actually pretty great. sort of comedy

1299
00:54:17.820 --> 00:54:19.260
he's called upon to do.

1300
00:54:20.579 --> 00:54:26.280
I think most of the comedy in this sort of era of trek lands, when

1301
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:28.079
it's the performance, you know?

1302
00:54:28.139 --> 00:54:30.960
Do you remember Whoopi Goldberg and the Dolphin when she goes, shut

1303
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:31.500
up, kid.

1304
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:33.539
Tell me more about my eyes.

1305
00:54:34.139 --> 00:54:37.559
And it's funny because she delivers the line brilliantly.

1306
00:54:37.619 --> 00:54:40.860
And that's super cheesy, that dialogue, but like deliberately

1307
00:54:40.860 --> 00:54:41.519
cheesy.

1308
00:54:41.579 --> 00:54:44.400
It's making fun of itself and the actors are both kind of leaning

1309
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:44.760
into it.

1310
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.159
Maybe it's the skill of the actor then.

1311
00:54:47.219 --> 00:54:49.019
Yeah, and even wherever it lands.

1312
00:54:49.139 --> 00:54:52.500
Because Whoopi Goldberg's a great actress, and Marina Surtis...

1313
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.559
Which becomes better.

1314
00:54:55.619 --> 00:54:56.579
Do you know what it means?

1315
00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:59.340
She gets better and better the longer she gets better acting.

1316
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.099
I think she gives up the acting and just brings herself.

1317
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:06.599
Well, that's one way of going back. very funny. send you the link

1318
00:55:06.599 --> 00:55:08.039
to that convention appearance, you know?

1319
00:55:08.099 --> 00:55:10.320
Yeah, she is funny.

1320
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:13.619
She's really great and I think she's so much charm.

1321
00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:15.480
She goes, is anyone here deaf?

1322
00:55:15.539 --> 00:55:17.820
Is this woman just waving around about for nothing?

1323
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:19.619
You know, she says on that convention stage.

1324
00:55:19.739 --> 00:55:22.380
So funny. so inappropriate.

1325
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.119
It's terrible.

1326
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:25.199
Terrifying.

1327
00:55:25.260 --> 00:55:29.579
But I mean, I think she's super fun in Voyager when she comes back

1328
00:55:29.579 --> 00:55:32.159
in Voyager for the Pathfinder...

1329
00:55:32.219 --> 00:55:33.179
Oh, God, I can't talk.

1330
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:34.980
Pathfinder episodes, yeah.

1331
00:55:35.340 --> 00:55:36.719
Yeah.

1332
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.480
Well, that's, she's mostly patronising Regoline, those episodes

1333
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:40.260
for sure.

1334
00:55:40.260 --> 00:55:40.860
That's fun too.

1335
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:42.659
Yeah, ooh, kissing.

1336
00:55:42.780 --> 00:55:46.920
No, that was really a particularly unsexy kiss too.

1337
00:55:47.340 --> 00:55:51.239
And like that line is delivered wrong.

1338
00:55:51.300 --> 00:55:52.619
We said it right from the start.

1339
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:56.460
She says, I already have a job as counsellor, and she should be

1340
00:55:56.460 --> 00:55:57.360
making fun of him.

1341
00:55:57.420 --> 00:56:01.199
You know, like there's no lightness or anything like that.

1342
00:56:01.260 --> 00:56:05.099
She's there absolutely rigid, and it's just like, come on, you

1343
00:56:05.099 --> 00:56:06.119
sleazy dick.

1344
00:56:06.179 --> 00:56:07.619
And that's part of the thing too.

1345
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:08.340
Do you know what I mean?

1346
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.880
It's kind of like he's doing he's pulling his usual crap.

1347
00:56:11.940 --> 00:56:14.280
It's like Deanna wants to look after people.

1348
00:56:14.340 --> 00:56:15.300
She's a counsellor.

1349
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:16.320
She cares about people.

1350
00:56:16.380 --> 00:56:19.800
I'm going to be a person who needs help and needs to be kind of

1351
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.619
managed and stuff, and I'm going to call upon her for help, and

1352
00:56:22.619 --> 00:56:26.579
she's kind of going, like, instead of just going, you can't still

1353
00:56:26.579 --> 00:56:29.519
be pulling this shit after all this time.

1354
00:56:29.579 --> 00:56:32.519
You can't still be doing that with me again.

1355
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.480
She delivers the line in complete seriousness and just stands

1356
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:38.460
there rigidly while he walks off.

1357
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:42.239
So it feels like he has learned nothing from this episode.

1358
00:56:42.300 --> 00:56:46.320
He's going to go to the next ship and he'll do it all.

1359
00:56:46.380 --> 00:56:47.280
And that's okay.

1360
00:56:47.340 --> 00:56:48.360
Do you know what I mean?

1361
00:56:48.420 --> 00:56:50.460
But she should score some things off him.

1362
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:54.059
She needs to win and she needs to win that last conversation.

1363
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:55.079
I don't think she does.

1364
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:59.880
And I just, you know, like they won't let her be steely enough to

1365
00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:00.179
win.

1366
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:01.860
Do you know what?

1367
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:02.639
The more I think about it.

1368
00:57:02.699 --> 00:57:05.219
Remember I brought up the game earlier in the episode?

1369
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:05.460
Yeah.

1370
00:57:05.460 --> 00:57:10.079
Sexy Ashley Child, does Ensign Robin Leffler. and a marvellous

1371
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:11.579
romance with Wesley Crusher.

1372
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:14.639
Well, I mean, that's an episode where they do remember that it's

1373
00:57:14.639 --> 00:57:17.639
supposed to be absurd and they make it as fun as possible.

1374
00:57:17.699 --> 00:57:20.699
And then they put in this couple with great chemistry.

1375
00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:24.599
And then in the last scene, which is also in the quarters, they're

1376
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:28.679
sort of kissing and hugging and cracking jokes at each other.

1377
00:57:28.739 --> 00:57:32.880
So, yeah, I think they can get it right, you know, but a couple of

1378
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:33.239
years time.

1379
00:57:33.300 --> 00:57:36.480
It takes a while to land it and the right people too.

1380
00:57:36.539 --> 00:57:40.139
I think, you know, it's Ashley Judge. not sure that they could

1381
00:57:40.139 --> 00:57:44.219
ever pull off a Councillor Troy romance that is going to land.

1382
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:49.679
But, I mean, look at many, many years later, but look at that

1383
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:53.820
episode of Picard series one that we did with her and Ryan.

1384
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:54.420
Independent.

1385
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:56.159
It wasn't a romantic...

1386
00:57:56.219 --> 00:57:57.179
It was just a drama.

1387
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:01.199
But she sells the relationship between her and Riker because the 2

1388
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:03.179
of them have been friends for so long.

1389
00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:08.519
She acts beautifully, like she really conveys the loss of her

1390
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:08.820
son.

1391
00:58:08.940 --> 00:58:13.320
Yeah, all of that stuff and how scared she is now and old and

1392
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:13.619
stuff.

1393
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:15.420
Like I just, like that was beautiful.

1394
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:16.860
That was such a good thing.

1395
00:58:16.980 --> 00:58:19.500
I did appreciate it, though, come series 3 of Picard.

1396
00:58:19.619 --> 00:58:23.340
You know, you've not only got Dr. Bev delivering medical babble in

1397
00:58:23.340 --> 00:58:26.760
a particularly robotic way, but you've also got Councillor Troy

1398
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:30.360
you know, counselling Beverly's son about what's behind that door

1399
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:34.199
and being very serious and a bit dull.

1400
00:58:34.260 --> 00:58:34.860
Do you remember?

1401
00:58:35.099 --> 00:58:38.099
So do you remember the stuff where the changeling, the changeling

1402
00:58:38.099 --> 00:58:41.820
comes and the changing Riker comes and Riker's talking about what

1403
00:58:41.820 --> 00:58:44.639
the change thing was like and she says, oh, you know, he was very

1404
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:46.980
good in bed, but very bad at pizza or whatever.

1405
00:58:48.059 --> 00:58:50.039
That's how I knew.

1406
00:58:50.099 --> 00:58:54.840
That's how I knew And like they're just kind of making fun of one

1407
00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:55.320
another.

1408
00:58:55.380 --> 00:58:58.980
Like all of that stuff is just wonderful and delightful, but I

1409
00:58:58.980 --> 00:59:00.840
guess you only get that 30 years later.

1410
00:59:01.139 --> 00:59:03.480
It's the opposite.

1411
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:06.659
When that changeling turned up, you know, and slept with me.

1412
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:09.659
And then he made me a beautiful meal afterwards and I was like

1413
00:59:09.659 --> 00:59:10.860
there's no way that's my mark.

1414
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:12.780
You know, he cooks terribly.

1415
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.059
The complete opposite.

1416
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:16.860
Do you know what?

1417
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:18.659
I didn't not enjoy that.

1418
00:59:18.719 --> 00:59:19.920
No, no, me either.

1419
00:59:19.980 --> 00:59:22.440
Well, I think it fails in many many ways.

1420
00:59:22.500 --> 00:59:23.219
Yeah.

1421
00:59:23.219 --> 00:59:25.619
It fails in the standard Star Trek ways.

1422
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:27.420
It's full of space people.

1423
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.900
They can't commit to being funny and there's a lot of latex on

1424
00:59:30.900 --> 00:59:31.320
screen.

1425
00:59:31.380 --> 00:59:32.760
The romance is icky.

1426
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:34.079
It's just gross.

1427
00:59:34.139 --> 00:59:35.820
You know, you say it fails in Star Trek ways.

1428
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:39.539
I think it fails in, I think this episode, particularly generation

1429
00:59:39.539 --> 00:59:40.440
ways.

1430
00:59:40.500 --> 00:59:41.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah. what I mean.

1431
00:59:41.820 --> 00:59:45.900
But, I mean, you and I sat through some pretty agonising episodes

1432
00:59:45.900 --> 00:59:46.980
of TNG.

1433
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:51.480
And I enjoyed watching it twice. once when I shouldn't have, once

1434
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:52.079
when I should have.

1435
00:59:52.139 --> 00:59:54.360
And now a 3rd time along with you.

1436
00:59:54.420 --> 00:59:56.340
So I'm giving the price a thumbs up.

1437
00:59:56.400 --> 00:59:57.659
Yeah, me too.

1438
00:59:57.719 --> 00:59:59.340
Despite being terrible.

1439
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:00.539
It is terrible.

1440
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:09.179
So it's the end of the episode and it's time for us to work out

1441
01:00:09.179 --> 01:00:10.860
what we're going to watch next time.

1442
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:16.139
I was responsible for, was I, was I really responsible?

1443
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:20.400
You were responsible for the price and for once in your run of

1444
01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:21.719
duds.

1445
01:00:21.780 --> 01:00:23.099
You've got as a winner.

1446
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:23.579
That tip.

1447
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:24.360
Yeah, that's it.

1448
01:00:24.420 --> 01:00:27.360
I've actually managed to choose a winner after a very, very long

1449
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:30.000
streak of sort of bad stuff.

1450
01:00:30.059 --> 01:00:35.340
So you have chosen a series for us to watch next time, is that

1451
01:00:35.340 --> 01:00:35.579
right?

1452
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:37.619
A single series as well.

1453
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:41.760
I believe it is a little bit underrepresented in untitled Star

1454
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:42.599
Trek project.

1455
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:46.019
At least you mentioned it a couple of weeks ago.

1456
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:48.179
It is.

1457
01:00:48.179 --> 01:00:50.639
It's 90 straight, but it's Voyager.

1458
01:00:50.699 --> 01:00:53.519
I think Voyager was still a little bit underrepresented.

1459
01:00:53.579 --> 01:00:58.199
And I just love talking about 90s trek so much.

1460
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:03.960
So I'm gonna push the button and hopefully we'll get a goodie.

1461
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:05.460
Okay, brilliant.

1462
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:05.880
Do that.

1463
01:01:05.940 --> 01:01:07.559
We've not got a goodie.

1464
01:01:07.619 --> 01:01:08.699
No, okay.

1465
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:10.800
The chances were high.

1466
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:12.119
What is it?

1467
01:01:12.179 --> 01:01:15.300
Season 2, episode 6 twisted.

1468
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:19.199
Oh, dear, that's really bad, isn't it?

1469
01:01:19.260 --> 01:01:22.800
That's the one that's so bad that in the convention, Robert

1470
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.800
Picardo goes, do you remember that episode where we were just

1471
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:29.519
wandering around the sets and the geography of the ship?

1472
01:01:29.579 --> 01:01:31.920
He goes, they'd run out of money of anything.

1473
01:01:31.980 --> 01:01:35.400
We were just wandering around the sets. like making it up.

1474
01:01:35.460 --> 01:01:38.579
Yep, no, that's terrible. and not in a good way.

1475
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:39.480
Alright.

1476
01:01:39.539 --> 01:01:40.920
Ooh, okay.

1477
01:01:40.980 --> 01:01:42.239
Is it 2 parter?

1478
01:01:42.539 --> 01:01:47.159
It is a two-parter and it is a good two-parter.

1479
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:49.139
At least the 1st half is very good.

1480
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:50.880
I should never say that.

1481
01:01:50.940 --> 01:01:52.079
I'm always wrong.

1482
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:57.719
Season five, episode 26 equinox.

1483
01:01:57.780 --> 01:02:01.019
Ooh, I would love to watch that.

1484
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:02.639
I would really like to watch.

1485
01:02:02.699 --> 01:02:03.420
What do you think?

1486
01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:06.360
The path that Voyager should have taken.

1487
01:02:06.420 --> 01:02:07.619
Yeah.

1488
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:09.179
And that's the TV show.

1489
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:09.960
Not the ship.

1490
01:02:10.019 --> 01:02:12.539
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. do you think?

1491
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:13.920
I think I think we should do that.

1492
01:02:13.980 --> 01:02:14.280
Yeah.

1493
01:02:14.340 --> 01:02:15.599
And you know what?

1494
01:02:15.659 --> 01:02:18.480
There are some problems and in the 2nd episode, obviously you've

1495
01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:22.199
got Romor's involvement and I'm going to pull up the quotes where

1496
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.139
it's talking about the writer's room and yeah, you've just

1497
01:02:25.139 --> 01:02:28.440
satisfied it is. yeah You've got a living like this.

1498
01:02:28.500 --> 01:02:32.099
Well, because fandom, when it when he decided to chip out after 4

1499
01:02:32.099 --> 01:02:32.460
episodes.

1500
01:02:32.579 --> 01:02:35.820
So he wrote he wrote this huge back when there were forums.

1501
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:37.980
He wrote this huge forum post saying, this is why.

1502
01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:41.280
I can't write for this show because none of it makes any sense.

1503
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:44.400
All right, that sounds perfect then.

1504
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:48.059
So equinox and equinox part two, right?

1505
01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:50.820
Both of them. let's do it Excellent.

1506
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:51.360
Let's do it.

1507
01:02:57.659 --> 01:03:01.199
You've been listening to Entitled Star Trek Project with Joe

1508
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:02.639
Porter, Nathan Bottomley.

1509
01:03:02.699 --> 01:03:05.940
We're online at untitledstar trekproject.com where you can find

1510
01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:08.940
subscription links and links to our social media accounts.

1511
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:13.139
Our podcast artwork is by Kayla Ciceran and the theme was composed

1512
01:03:13.139 --> 01:03:14.460
by Cameron Lamb.

1513
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:18.599
This episode was recorded on the 19th of September 2023 and

1514
01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:20.400
released on the 22nd of September.

1515
01:03:20.460 --> 01:03:25.679
We'll see you next time for Star Trek Voyager, Equinox and Equinox

1516
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:45.179
Part 2. really good choice.

1517
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:46.079
So do you have time?

1518
01:03:46.139 --> 01:03:47.760
Are you like this time next week?

1519
01:03:47.820 --> 01:03:49.139
I'm off next week.

1520
01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:50.699
But when are you in London?

1521
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:54.719
Oh, not till I think we're going Thursday, Friday.

1522
01:03:54.780 --> 01:03:56.940
There's a train strike on Saturday, so we're going to go Thursday

1523
01:03:56.940 --> 01:03:57.179
Friday.

1524
01:03:57.239 --> 01:03:58.440
Wednesday, Thursday.

1525
01:03:58.500 --> 01:03:59.460
Okay.

1526
01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:02.159
Well, in that case I can do it because I'm off school. school.

1527
01:04:02.219 --> 01:04:03.900
Yeah, I can do it for sure.

1528
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.480
And I'll make sure, like, I'll Tuesday evening.

1529
01:04:06.539 --> 01:04:08.280
Wait, let me say it before I say that.

1530
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:12.900
Tuesday the 26th.

1531
01:04:13.019 --> 01:04:14.159
Yep.

1532
01:04:14.219 --> 01:04:15.659
No events.

1533
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:17.639
I can absolutely do that.

1534
01:04:17.699 --> 01:04:19.679
I like doing 2 hours, you know.

1535
01:04:19.739 --> 01:04:21.059
Yeah, I do too.

1536
01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:23.639
Well, usually because one part just fails.

1537
01:04:23.699 --> 01:04:27.059
So you get talking about the great stuff. terrible stuff.

1538
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:29.400
But I actually don't really remember equinox all that well.

1539
01:04:29.460 --> 01:04:31.500
I remember hope and fear.

1540
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:38.639
Which is... 4 and 5, is it?

1541
01:04:38.699 --> 01:04:39.659
Is it 4 and five?

1542
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:43.980
Yeah, no, equinox is 5 and six. 5 and six.

1543
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:45.420
What's 4 and five?

1544
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:47.099
That's hope for fear.

1545
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:48.239
And then no, I opened up.

1546
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:49.380
So it's 2 single episodes.

1547
01:04:49.500 --> 01:04:50.280
Yeah, yeah.

1548
01:04:50.340 --> 01:04:50.820
Yeah.

1549
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:52.260
It's the only time they did that, I think.

1550
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:55.199
So basics part one and 2 is two, isn't it?

1551
01:04:55.260 --> 01:04:56.579
Season two, three.

1552
01:04:56.579 --> 01:05:00.300
Three to 4 Scorpion. 45 is, yeah.

1553
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:01.920
Yeah, yeah, okay.

1554
01:05:01.980 --> 01:05:04.559
And then Unimatrix 0, obviously.

1555
01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:10.559
Yeah, DSY was a show that didn't do 2 pilos at the end of the

1556
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:10.800
season.

1557
01:05:10.860 --> 01:05:15.059
It just always did a season cliffhanger and then another

1558
01:05:15.059 --> 01:05:17.039
standalone to open the season afterwards.

1559
01:05:17.099 --> 01:05:17.699
Yeah.

1560
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:20.880
Yeah, but that's because they're serialised.

1561
01:05:20.940 --> 01:05:22.619
So it doesn't make any difference.

1562
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:24.000
Yeah, that's right.

1563
01:05:24.059 --> 01:05:26.159
You know, they usually did the 2 posters.

1564
01:05:26.219 --> 01:05:27.900
At the beginning of the season, didn't they?

1565
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:28.860
Yeah.

1566
01:05:28.860 --> 01:05:30.840
Imaging the sand, shadows and symbols.

1567
01:05:30.900 --> 01:05:31.500
Yeah.

1568
01:05:31.500 --> 01:05:32.639
Yeah.

1569
01:05:32.699 --> 01:05:34.980
Yeah, the thing was...

1570
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:38.699
The search part one. search one and two, the 3 powder at the

1571
01:05:38.699 --> 01:05:39.480
beginning of series two.

1572
01:05:39.539 --> 01:05:42.239
That was a mission statement, I think.

1573
01:05:42.300 --> 01:05:43.199
Yeah, but that's it.

1574
01:05:43.260 --> 01:05:46.260
That's setting up the new thing, what we're doing that's new.

1575
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:48.840
I think that's actually a good approach.

1576
01:05:48.900 --> 01:05:54.480
What's great about equinox. part one is you've got the equinox

1577
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:58.320
crew coming in. so much more interesting than the Voyager crew

1578
01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:01.139
because they're all they're all on the edge and slightly

1579
01:06:01.139 --> 01:06:01.860
psychotic.

1580
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:04.679
And then you've got, I remember Harry Kim comes out of a line

1581
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:08.820
because Balana's ex-boyfriend obviously is on the equinox.

1582
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:13.500
So he's going, oh, yeah, I always used to call you BLT.

1583
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:15.900
Like, because that was your favourite.

1584
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:16.500
No way.

1585
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:20.940
And then Harry Kim goes, oh, Tom, I'm going to call you Turkey

1586
01:06:20.940 --> 01:06:21.480
Platter.

1587
01:06:21.539 --> 01:06:24.599
Oh, no, that's right.

1588
01:06:24.659 --> 01:06:26.219
Jesus Christ.

1589
01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:27.780
What is that?

1590
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:29.579
What is that?

1591
01:06:29.699 --> 01:06:31.380
We will have fun with it though.

1592
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:32.639
Oh my goodness.

1593
01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:34.139
Okay, that'll be fun.

1594
01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:35.219
I have time to watch it too.

1595
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:37.679
So all of that is extremely good.

1596
01:06:37.739 --> 01:06:41.760
That's yeah, that's perfect for that. over the weekend because I

1597
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:45.719
think today, which is my 1st day off. of the week.

1598
01:06:45.780 --> 01:06:47.460
I think I've got anything on Saturday.

1599
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:48.719
So that'll be nice.

1600
01:06:48.780 --> 01:06:49.260
Yeah.

1601
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:53.039
Well, I'll just, I'll load them onto my iPad or whatever and watch

1602
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:55.679
them while we're away, you know, like, because I think we're going

1603
01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:57.360
to do lots of lying about and stuff.

1604
01:06:57.420 --> 01:07:00.659
And then I get back on Monday in the middle of the day.

1605
01:07:00.659 --> 01:07:03.780
If I haven't watch it by then, I'll watch it by then. anyway.

1606
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:07.559
Let me save this in a minute.

1607
01:07:07.619 --> 01:07:09.000
So I can send it to you now.

1608
01:07:09.059 --> 01:07:13.199
If you're going to do it tonight, I'm starting in full week.

1609
01:07:13.260 --> 01:07:13.800
Yeah.

1610
01:07:13.860 --> 01:07:14.159
Yeah.

1611
01:07:14.219 --> 01:07:19.019
I'll make a start tonight because some, yeah, I, um, I need to get

1612
01:07:19.019 --> 01:07:20.760
everything done before I go away.

1613
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:24.119
A lot of it's you and me going, ooh.

1614
01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:27.539
I think were we too cruel about straight people?

1615
01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:29.940
Not cruel enough, I don't think.

1616
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:31.500
Yeah, I think so. those guys.

1617
01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:34.199
Weirdos.