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Hey, Joe. Hello, hello, hello.

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So, we are watching what I think is an unjustly maligned episode of Star Trek Enterprise.

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We discovered last week that a night in Sick Bay was given one star by Jama, who just thought it was super terrible.

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And I have to say that watching it, I thought it was the best of the 4 that we have so far done for Untitled Star Trek project.

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Can I ask you something?

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What happened to you?

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on this thing?

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All right.

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We watched Endgame last week, and this week we're watching a night in Stick Bay, and you're being extraordinarily kind to these pieces of shite.

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I must say.

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Well, I don't I don't, well, look, I mean, it's a Star Trek episode and it's a pretty ropey Star Trek episode, but I certainly don't think it deserves the sort of hatred.

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It's not code of honour bad.

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It's not threshold bad.

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It is.

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I think this is probably bombs here, Trek.

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Oh, you think?

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for me.

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Yeah.

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Do you know what?

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One article I read online said that this episode was singularly responsible for the demise of 90s Star Trek.

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Oh no, that's not true.

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It's, uh, we all know that it was Bacular.

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Way to sync the franchise bacula.

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Well, I told you off mic that I was just, you know, looking about to see what critical opinion of a night in Sick Bay was, and I found this fabulous YouTube video, this 10 minute YouTuber, this mad Scott Bacula fan who'd never really watched Star Trek before.

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So she chose to watch literally the 1st 2 series of Enterprise and she starts off this video saying, what have they done to my precious Scott Bacula?

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Oh, it's marvellous.

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I mean, and then she details basically everything that kind of went wrong with him in this.

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And there's a lot.

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There's a lot to unpick it.

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We just got back to that and Captain Archer.

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Yeah, and I can't quite tell what's going on because it seems to me, like, it is an episode where Archer is being an asshole, as usual, but then he's forced to apologise, and the A-plot is him having to apologise.

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Well, I guess it's the B plot.

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I guess they're all B plots, really, in this episode.

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But the B plot about the cratassum.

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There's not really any jeopardy, is there?

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No, but I think that's okay.

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That's one of the things that I like.

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It's a bit like day to day or, you know, like in the car...

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, but you know what?

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Data stay in and looking for a plum up, involve a cast of fascinating regular characters.

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A night in Sick Bay involves, wow, the enterprise crew.

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Yeah, but I have to say that, you know, Flux is pretty damn great and he's really good in this.

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This was the 1st time I found him a bit annoying, actually.

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And I think it's because they were trying to drag sitcom comedy out of him.

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So all those sort of quirks cutting his toenails and peeling his tongue and all of this, just for the express purpose of annoying Captain Archer who's in the bed trying to sleep.

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I'm just like, is this where we're at with Star Trek now?

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Like is this what is being sold as, you know, decent drama or comedy?

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Well, but I mean, that's this week, you know, and then next week they'll be back and they'll be, you know, every bit is racist and thoughtless as usual.

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And I guess that just for one week having the stakes be very low and having the time.

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Excuse me, I'm going to interrupt you there for a second.

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If you're telling me, you don't think Captain Archer is racist for out this entire episode.

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And I don't think him doing that strange ceremony, whatever he's doing at the end of this in any way makes up for the fact that he's supposed to be out here as, you know, what is the purpose of it?

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They supposed to go out to meet civilisations to learn from them.

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He basically comes along, takes his dog down on the away mission.

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Why the fuck did he do that?

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He's never done it before. he's done it once before, right?

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there weren't going to be people around.

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And then because, you know, of a decision he made, they're insulted and then he spends the next half hour slagging him off.

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No, but I mean when he apologises to the other members of his crew for being such an asshole.

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So there's one plot where there's an official formal apology, but that's followed up by him apologising to people that he's been a dick to like to poll in this episode.

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Well, you said to me that you thought this was an acknowledgement, that one, that the show perhaps wasn't working, and 2, that they had written this complete fucking arsehole as the lead.

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So to give an episode where that is kind of exposed entirely and then he makes his apologies.

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Well, fine, then that should be the tipping point then, didn't it?

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And from now on, we've got agreeable, lovely arch, but you and I know that's not the case at all.

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They don't learn the lesson.

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No, no.

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And what was the point of highlighting it here?

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Well, I don't even know whether it's deliberate or whether it's just me reading it perversely, but so much of it is about him being just an obnoxious prick and some of it's actually played for laughs and I actually quite liked that.

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Do you think anybody out there likes Captain Archer?

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I don't know.

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I think people probably do, but I just remember coming back to Enterprise for this podcast and just discovering how massively unlikeable he is.

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And, you know, like I wasn't a massive quantum leap fan, but I watched a fair share of it.

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He was so charming. charisma.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. sonified.

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I mean, he was so charm.

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And the way he could play on your emotions in some of that, you know, some of the hard-hitting topics, that's just none of that here at all.

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It's just really, really adultures.

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It was one bit, right?

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Where he was sitting in his quarters, watching water polo, and throwing a ball against the wall.

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And I was like, are you the whitest man I've ever seen on television?

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Not just the water polo thing is so pathetic. honestly, he may as well play lacrosse.

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Oh, very strange.

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And you know, we'll talk about this in the episode, but I do need to just ask you, what on earth?

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They were thinking, right?

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Because I think the relationship between Archer and the dog.

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It's cute.

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But then they do this dream sequence in this episode, which starts off at the funeral of Porthos, and then becomes this very strange sexual wet dream about the pulp, and I don't know, what connection they were trying to make there between the two?

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But it was very very strange.

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I actually think that he's being unlikeable extends to his relationship with the dog because when the dog gets sick, he mostly sees it as an excuse to be aggrieved about the cratassins and he just seems to show very little affection or anything, like, you know, partly because the dog is a, you know, a lot of the time just a sort of dog shaped doll in a plastic fish tank for quite a lot of the episode.

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Like a lot of the episode, not just when he's submerged and they're operating on him, but when he's in the sort of survival chamber thing.

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It's often just a puppet, the memory alpha page describes it as a prosthetic dog.

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It's like not real.

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It's been made by the prop makers for Star Trek Enterprise.

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So it looks pretty convincing.

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But he just shows no affection for it.

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And the dog doesn't seem interested in him at all, either. at all.

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No, there doesn't seem to be any great relation.

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I think there's, I was reading on Wikipedia. 2 dogs and he had a lot of trouble in this episode because he was asked to like be in the decontamination room on his own and things like this away from the owner.

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And so there were a lot of issues here.

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So yeah, I think in fact, and I'm sure they didn't put a real dog in that vat of liquid, drill a hole in his head.

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You know?

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That was a very strange scene, you know.

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I was like, well, I'm this... blocks.

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It's opening up about his big family, which I thought was actually a very gentle character moment that worked, one of the few in this that did.

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And at the same point, they're drilling out in the dog's head. in this vat of liquid. bizarre.

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But do you know what?

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I know you've got dogs and you're a big dog man.

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So I'm going to push this point too hard, but I think the dog is a problem in this show.

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If we are getting to a point where an entire episode is being written around the dog sick in Sick Bay.

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Oh, I just, I just don't think that is in any way interesting.

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I mean, it's like centring an episode on Morn.

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He's essentially scenery.

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Do you know what I mean?

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And the occasional punchline of a gag?

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And then we kind of go, I know.

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Well, at least it's still an episode about that.

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Or it's like having an... a wealth of colourful characters coming in and there's a big, like, crime plot.

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There's interesting things going on.

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This is literally just hanging around waiting for the dog to get better.

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I'm like, what are we doing?

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Well, we're just watching Archer be a massive asshole, I think, is the... do we want to do that?

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Well, we have to do it every week, but at least they're acknowledging it.

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At least they're acknowledging it this week.

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Oh my god, I knew this was going to be fun for all that.

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I just knew it.

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And you know what?

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before we go in.

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I knew something you're going to back on my head. knew how fucking contrary you was and I knew you were going to get some pleasure from this.

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Yeah, no, I think it's, I think it's fun.

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I felt like big space battles and all of that.

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That's not necessarily why I'm here.

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Yeah, baby.

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Now you're talking.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm not necessarily here for that.

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And I think something that leans into Star Trek being stupid, which is certainly what the Crotassans do.

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And just a sort of examination of the characters.

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And I think there's stuff about men and women there as well, which is kind of a refreshing change.

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Yeah, but I, again, I think it's a little bit troubling and we'll talk about that as we're going through as they're rubbing decontamination gel all over each other's bodies.

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And a very strange bit where, Hoshi's rubbing it into Tapol, to poles rubbing it into Archer, and Archer's rubbing it into the dog, and I'm like, is this supposed to be sexy?

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Because I'm, this is some weird shit going on?

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No, it's absolutely not.

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But that comes quite early on.

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Let's talk about that when we get started.

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But have you seen the trailer for this episode?

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No.

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Okay.

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Oh, I'm not too scared to tell you how they how they emphasise this episode.

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So it's the sequence where Archer goes.

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Yes, it'll be the breast instead of best, right?

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So it's him saying that line and then it cuts to lots of reaction shots of the crew going, oh, oh, oh, as if that's what happened, you know, sort of rocky horror.

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Dr. Snap, Janet, Brad.

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A bit like that.

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And then the voiceover goes, you know, Star Trek Enterprise is sexier than ever.

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I was like, so they were going for sex.

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I'm telling you, and it worked because there was a spike in the ratings for this one.

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Oh my god.

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It got 0.600000 more than usual.

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Those horny buggers.

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They want to see the relationship between Archer and Corthorse.

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We were all tuning in this week.

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Okay, should we watch this?

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let's watch it.

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I'm going to count this in before I lose the will to live.

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Do you know what?

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like being the one who don't like things.

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Okay, to be the naughty one in the conversation.

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Okay, you tell me when.

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All right, so I'll count us in. 5, 4, 3, 2, one, and we're off.

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There is one joy in watching it, surprise, you know, we get the theme tune every time.

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I love it.

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It's so singable.

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It's so terrible.

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Oh, here we go.

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But this, don't you be telling me this isn't supposed to be sexy.

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No, it's not supposed to be sexy.

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In fact, I think it's making fun of these scenes and these scenes were absolutely exploitative and just an excuse to get, you know, trip and trips show.

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You go watch that trailer.

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All right.

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But this, this, this makes it funny because, you know, you've got 2 attractive women rubbing gel into each other, then you've got someone rubbing gel into Archer, and then you've got Archer rubbing it into a dog. you know, like there's no way that that isn't meant to take the piece out of those scenes from earlier episodes.

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Brennan Braga and Rick Bourbon have the ability to look at their own previous mistakes and then take the Mickey album?

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I think so.

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I definitely think that that has to be what's happening on this. the highest thing you've ever said about them, you know, maybe.

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So he's already being an asshole, isn't he?

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He's already complaining about the aliens of the week.

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He is.

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I have to say that woman on YouTube was appalled by Tapole's makeup, her underwear in this thing because when she walks out the door, it's riding right up her ass.

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I think I might have said.

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I mean, I'm going, well, I'm going to say that seeing it's got a back, you know, with his kit off, listening like that is a terrible thing.

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No, no, no, not at all.

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But you know, even when he does that fucking stupid ceremony at the end. his lovely hairy chest out.

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So it's something worth looking at.

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Oh, what a good boy.

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He is a good boy.

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The thing is, is I've seen how your dogs react to you, right?

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Yeah, and there's they're always, absolutely, they're obsessed with you.

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Yeah, yeah.

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They're always around you, plucking around you and wanting to be touched by you.

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Bad dog.

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It's not anything...

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Neither of them are giving it either one anything.

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Do you think the dog is supposed to make Jonathan Archer a more presentable human being?

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Well, possibly, but I think it's probably of a piece with the baseball cap and the, you know, sports metaphors and all of that sort of shit, like it's supposed to make him just an all American white guy, you know, in a way that I just find hugely obnoxious.

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This song.

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I know that people hate it and they're right to hate it, but I just sing it every time that I watch it.

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He's so bad.

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Were you just one time?

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Were you just put the music very gently underneath as we're talking?

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everyone can enjoy it.

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I think the 1st time we did Enterprise, I could, and an instrumental version under the closing credits of our episode.

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I don't know if you remember.

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But you know what, right?

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This is exactly what these lyrics are saying, this is exactly what Valiant in DS9 was taking a piss out of.

215
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I can do anything, you know?

216
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I can touch the sky.

217
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I can take on, you know, civilisations.

218
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But I mean, they who are not going to watch out.

219
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India coming.

220
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Yeah that's right.

221
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But they're not going to hold me down no more.

222
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That's the Vulcans, right?

223
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Is that what they're talking about explicitly, the Bulcans?

224
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Don't you think?

225
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think so.

226
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I don't think that's what Russell Watson was thinking.

227
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I think it is either, but I think that's definitely what I take.

228
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Don't tell me they creatively take the show to that song.

229
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Surely not.

230
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No, no, I will be surprised.

231
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I do love these sets.

232
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I was watching this.

233
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I was very aware of I do like the sort of functional nature of the Enterprise sets.

234
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Yeah.

235
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I think they're... practical climbing over...

236
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Well, they are, yeah, they're boring colours and things.

237
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But it means the actors get to do a lot of physical work.

238
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That's more interesting than just sitting around in a room, you know?

239
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And I kind of like how professional, how incredibly professional trip is here and how he's the actual grown up in the room while Baculus being just a massive asshole because, you know, like...

240
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Oh, post-series 2.

241
00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.860
He often was the the, well, mature one.

242
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In series one, they tried to play him as a bit of a jock.

243
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He's going down on rise of type planets and, you know, he's being a bit of a teenager.

244
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And then they realised Connor Triner could actually do drama really well.

245
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So they started writing him a bit more sophisticatedly.

246
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Yeah, I think he's good.

247
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Like, I don't, I think he's one of the top two, isn't he?

248
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It's him and Billings on him?

249
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Of this show.

250
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It's him and Paul, isn't it?

251
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Yeah, it's a polar very good thing. too.

252
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Yeah.

253
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And I think she gets to do some really good stuff here too.

254
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I mean, that's when things get really sexy when she starts skipping him massages.

255
00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:45.480
Oh, I've seen that.

256
00:16:45.539 --> 00:16:48.179
Is this the real dog or the puppet dog?

257
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I'm going for the puppet dog.

258
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I'm not sure.

259
00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:54.960
The 2 dogs, just for your information, were called breezy and windy.

260
00:16:55.019 --> 00:16:56.460
Yes, I think I knew that.

261
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They must have farted on the sand a lot.

262
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There's the real dog in close-up.

263
00:17:01.980 --> 00:17:04.259
Oh, no, there's the fake dog.

264
00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:07.740
No, that's a real dog.

265
00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:09.480
Oh, there he is.

266
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Yeah, you're right.

267
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Yeah.

268
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Okay, John Billingsley as Dr. Flocks. we both love him.

269
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Yep.

270
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And I do think there's a really wonderful moment where he talks about his family later on in the episode.

271
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I like it.

272
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And I do think when they do the sort of things they do in this in other episodes when then you just have a quirky bit with Dr. Flocks.

273
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It usually works out really well.

274
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It's usually the best scene in the episode.

275
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Yeah, yeah.

276
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Yeah, maybe this was just a bit too much.

277
00:17:39.059 --> 00:17:45.660
Not too much, too much of that, just too, like, you know, a scene in an episode is great.

278
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A whole episode of catching bats with flocks.

279
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You see, I actually quite like the catching bats thing because they're such fat, useless, middle-aged wife.

280
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And like that's the point, you know, like they blunder around the place being utterly hopeless.

281
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And so...

282
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I know.

283
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It just goes...

284
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It just picks it out of the air.

285
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She doesn't even catch him.

286
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She sort of picks it out of the air.

287
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It's awesome And I actually...

288
00:18:14.220 --> 00:18:20.940
That is very strange because that's the moment where flocks choose to go, you're sexually frustrated, Captain.

289
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He's going around the room with his fucking net.

290
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Oh, good.

291
00:18:26.339 --> 00:18:30.240
Well, that's that's another example of what Tim Russ was talking about.

292
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We mentioned in last week's episode where you're doing some Star Trek business and then you're talking about some personal thing and then you, you know, you go back and forth between them.

293
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Only this time it's catching an escaped bat.

294
00:18:43.500 --> 00:18:50.039
I am, uh, as ever, obsessed with the background players in Star Trek.

295
00:18:50.099 --> 00:18:55.920
And I have to say, at the back of the bridge set there, a woman was doing some particularly detailed work on the wall.

296
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Okay, sir.

297
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She was only in here for about 5 seconds, but yeah.

298
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She got her dinner that day anyway.

299
00:19:04.019 --> 00:19:05.579
Oh, here we go.

300
00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:06.599
Oh, fuck.

301
00:19:06.660 --> 00:19:09.119
And yeah, he's such a decade.

302
00:19:09.180 --> 00:19:09.599
I know.

303
00:19:09.660 --> 00:19:12.299
So, so they've weed.

304
00:19:12.420 --> 00:19:13.259
Why does he not...

305
00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:17.220
Why does, sorry, why does he not acknowledge that he has made a mistake?

306
00:19:17.220 --> 00:19:19.740
Because he's an, he's an asshole.

307
00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:20.339
That's the point.

308
00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:24.119
That's the absolute point that he's an absolute asshole.

309
00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:29.880
Like, it's the equivalent of him bringing his dog into my home when I haven't asked him to bring his dog into the wall.

310
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He stuck my sofa.

311
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

312
00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:31.859
Yeah.

313
00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:34.680
And then him getting angry going, wow, I'm sorry.

314
00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:36.900
This line is great.

315
00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:42.900
There are some things more important than plasma injectors and she says, are you referring to your pride?

316
00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:46.740
And that's why I think that this episode is consciously about that.

317
00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:51.539
And if any line didn't deserve a you fucking idiot at the end of it.

318
00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:54.720
You know, like that line. absolutely deserves it.

319
00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:56.940
She's doing the you fucking idiot with her face.

320
00:19:57.059 --> 00:19:58.019
Oh, here we go.

321
00:19:58.740 --> 00:20:00.480
Watching water polo, throwing his ball.

322
00:20:00.539 --> 00:20:01.619
And his Dell monitor.

323
00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:06.240
He's all American Captain Archer, isn't he?

324
00:20:06.299 --> 00:20:10.559
But he's also, this is just him being a frustrated dickhead as well, isn't it?

325
00:20:10.619 --> 00:20:12.960
how perfect his bed is made as well.

326
00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:13.859
Look at that.

327
00:20:13.859 --> 00:20:16.380
He's got a yeoman.

328
00:20:16.619 --> 00:20:19.319
I don't think he has got a yeoman, you know.

329
00:20:19.380 --> 00:20:20.220
They would work for him.

330
00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:21.240
He's such a dickhead.

331
00:20:21.299 --> 00:20:22.859
Like, why doesn't the dog sleep on his bed?

332
00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:23.819
What an asshole.

333
00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:24.779
And sleeps over there.

334
00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:30.420
Do you know, in that YouTube video, that bit where she said about his ego.

335
00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:30.720
Yeah.

336
00:20:30.779 --> 00:20:32.220
Because his ego is bright.

337
00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:32.880
Pride.

338
00:20:32.940 --> 00:20:37.859
It cuts to a close-up on Archer and she started playing like, you got served.

339
00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:39.480
It's really funny.

340
00:20:39.539 --> 00:20:40.440
It's really good.

341
00:20:40.500 --> 00:20:41.940
It's one of the best lines of the episode.

342
00:20:43.140 --> 00:20:46.380
Oh, this is where it all starts to go a bit wrong.

343
00:20:46.500 --> 00:20:48.299
Oh, just off to Sick Bay.

344
00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:51.299
So aren't just off to sick bay to sit with the dog to feel better.

345
00:20:51.299 --> 00:20:57.240
And then he goes all the way across the other side of the room and then pulls the curtain closed.

346
00:20:57.900 --> 00:20:59.700
What's the point?

347
00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:00.599
Well, that was great.

348
00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:04.980
It's just that he just, you know, like he shows absolutely no affection for the dog.

349
00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:22.680
I do love, like, because we love flocks, and he's very cuddly and sweet, but the absolute sort of contempt and disregard he has for the dog, and he calls it a bugle instead of a beagle, and that hilarious bit about the lemurs that he's talking about.

350
00:21:22.740 --> 00:21:24.720
Like he's talking about...

351
00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:34.859
I like this where Archer goes, oh, excuse me, are you, you know, trained to work with dogs and then it lists all of his qualifications in veterinary medicine.

352
00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:36.539
I was like...

353
00:21:36.539 --> 00:21:44.039
But he talks about the denombulant lemur and he says some of them even have one head, which I think is...

354
00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:48.660
Yeah, see, that's the sort of quirk we get one scene in most episodes, you know?

355
00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:58.259
But, I mean, that's one of the things that he does is in this very gun version of Star Trek where it's basically on a submarine and everyone's super boring.

356
00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:03.660
He's the one who represents how silly and wonderfully ridiculous Star Trek can be.

357
00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:08.220
And and he plays it like deliberately well.

358
00:22:08.460 --> 00:22:10.619
He's charming, isn't he?

359
00:22:10.740 --> 00:22:11.700
So charming.

360
00:22:11.700 --> 00:22:14.759
And opinionated, as we've talked about before, yeah.

361
00:22:14.819 --> 00:22:18.660
Yeah, but he's got a thing to say about what went wrong with Enterprise.

362
00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:19.140
Yeah, yeah.

363
00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:29.339
In fact, the one quote, there was only one quote on memory alpha, and that was from John Binningsley, who, I'm going to say this, and he's...

364
00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:30.119
He said he liked this one.

365
00:22:30.180 --> 00:22:30.539
Yeah.

366
00:22:30.539 --> 00:22:33.180
I don't know if he's a favourite. but he said he liked it.

367
00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:35.700
And there were other members of the cast, I think, who said that they liked it.

368
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:37.259
I think that's the fake dog there.

369
00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:39.539
Oh my god, that's awful.

370
00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:41.519
I didn't even realise that when I watched it earlier.

371
00:22:41.579 --> 00:22:43.859
It really is. isn't it?

372
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:45.000
Oh, bless.

373
00:22:45.059 --> 00:22:46.920
Do you know what, right?

374
00:22:46.980 --> 00:22:48.839
The woman whose whose dogs it was.

375
00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:54.539
Apparently she was very upset the day that the dog was in the water with the old drug in his head.

376
00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:58.140
Because he looked just like my dog. so bad.

377
00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:00.000
I'm there going, how are they doing that?

378
00:23:00.059 --> 00:23:03.000
Is there like a water around the outside?

379
00:23:03.059 --> 00:23:11.519
You know, sometimes they do the thing where they'll put, you know, like 2 concentric kind of cylinders and put water between them, so it looks like the thing submerged.

380
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.200
And then it's like clamped.

381
00:23:13.259 --> 00:23:15.960
I'm going, how's the dog tolerating being clamped there?

382
00:23:16.019 --> 00:23:16.680
That's awful.

383
00:23:16.859 --> 00:23:21.059
All I can say is this, yeah, is this bit in a minute coming up with his toenails?

384
00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:26.519
I can't think of a more repulsive moment and I just can't bare feet and toenails.

385
00:23:26.579 --> 00:23:30.180
So watching him cutting off his scabby toenails.

386
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:31.319
So great.

387
00:23:31.500 --> 00:23:34.200
The great thing about it, it's horrible.

388
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:36.240
But it's like the Klingon teeth device.

389
00:23:36.299 --> 00:23:38.099
Remember the teeth sharpening device?

390
00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:39.539
Is it Kleons who have it?

391
00:23:39.539 --> 00:23:41.039
and then Quiet tries it.

392
00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.640
You know, it's the same sort of device.

393
00:23:44.700 --> 00:23:46.019
Oh, the tooth shop.

394
00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:46.319
Yeah.

395
00:23:46.380 --> 00:23:47.519
Oh, look.

396
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.799
Oh, I know, they're really horrible, aren't they?

397
00:23:49.859 --> 00:23:50.519
They're claws.

398
00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:51.960
We're pulsive.

399
00:23:52.019 --> 00:23:53.339
But he's got all these little queries.

400
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:54.599
Face puffed up.

401
00:23:54.660 --> 00:23:55.799
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

402
00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:56.880
By all accounts, his tongue.

403
00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.660
Well, in that 1st episode, he does that big giant smile.

404
00:24:00.779 --> 00:24:03.960
And then when his wife comes on board, remembering cogenitor.

405
00:24:04.019 --> 00:24:05.220
Is it coach as well?

406
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:06.180
She does the big smile.

407
00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:08.160
Do you know what?

408
00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:09.599
One shot of the toenails was enough.

409
00:24:09.660 --> 00:24:10.619
We had four there.

410
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:13.799
One was enough.

411
00:24:13.859 --> 00:24:14.579
But you know what?

412
00:24:15.059 --> 00:24:28.799
I mean, how often going on about how unoriginal latter-day's night is trek is, but even this isn't a lot original because there's an episode of Voyager, where I can't remember why now, but Nudix has to end up spending the evening in Sick Bay with the doctor.

413
00:24:28.859 --> 00:24:30.059
Do you remember this?

414
00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:30.599
No.

415
00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.420
And it's this, but played up to 11.

416
00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:34.079
Right.

417
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:40.140
So when the doctor starts paying out for music, and even Philip gets especially grumpy about that.

418
00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:46.440
And it's... almost as agonising as this.

419
00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:47.640
But you're right.

420
00:24:47.700 --> 00:24:49.799
It is played by, it's too bit a character.

421
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:50.759
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

422
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.240
Yeah, maybe not better actors, but certainly better characters.

423
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:55.200
Do you know what?

424
00:24:55.259 --> 00:24:59.400
I just think Bourbon and Bragger must have been looking over the shoulder going, well, that worked really well.

425
00:24:59.460 --> 00:25:01.259
We'll try it with blocks and archer.

426
00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:03.720
Well, it just goes to show that they're spent, aren't they?

427
00:25:03.779 --> 00:25:04.740
They're kind of exhausted.

428
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.319
They've been now doing this for so long that they've got nothing left.

429
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:17.339
And yet they've only been doing this show for a season and a half and that's the problem. is you've got an exhaustive production team. new show.

430
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:17.940
Yeah.

431
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.900
Wow, I really am seeing that puppet now.

432
00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:23.160
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

433
00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:24.420
It's really bad, isn't it?

434
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.420
He's fast asleep.

435
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:29.039
He's never waken up that one.

436
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.359
There was an episode of one foot in the grave. don't know if you ever watched that.

437
00:25:33.420 --> 00:25:34.259
Have you ever seen that?

438
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.079
Yeah, yeah. where Victor thinks he's buying a dog.

439
00:25:37.140 --> 00:25:39.900
Well, actually what he's buying is a stuffed dog.

440
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:50.160
And Mrs. Warboys brings it around and he's like, he's there and he runs off to the kitchen to get the dog food and he comes back with a bowl of dog food and she's standing there with his stuffed dog.

441
00:25:50.220 --> 00:25:57.720
And she goes, it's Mr. Burkett's dog, nippy, and he's like, nippy. anyway, it looks just like that dog there.

442
00:25:57.779 --> 00:26:00.299
So have a look at this scene, right?

443
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:07.380
It's, I don't know why to poll is running at 10 past midnight or whatever, but there she is.

444
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.920
But in this scene, archery is such a prick.

445
00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:18.839
And part of the thing is, and like he's a lot older than her, I think, in, you know, actor as, you know, he's older than her.

446
00:26:18.900 --> 00:26:24.299
She presents as younger than him, although she's probably what, you know, 50 or something if she's a Vulcan.

447
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:28.440
And, And he competes with her.

448
00:26:28.500 --> 00:26:39.119
So he keeps looking across, look, she turns her speed up and so he immediately turns his speed up because he can't be...

449
00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:42.119
Oh, you think that's the reason why?

450
00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:53.160
Yeah, surely, like he just can't tolerate her beating him, and she just gives him the worst shade as she leaves because he's just turned this into a competition.

451
00:26:54.059 --> 00:26:55.680
What does she say?

452
00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:02.099
can't remember Oh, she just says, oh, I guess I just can't keep up or compete with you or something.

453
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:03.599
Like it's...

454
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.259
I figured, you know, because they're leaning into this hole, he's fancy, sir.

455
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:08.700
You know, he's got desires for it.

456
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:09.960
Oh, like so he's trying to look cool.

457
00:27:10.019 --> 00:27:12.299
Oh, it was like a power move.

458
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:18.420
Yeah, it was like, you know, but I also think it's just the usual thing of him being an asshole, you know, like he can't be outrun by a woman.

459
00:27:18.420 --> 00:27:26.099
And, you know, she's being completely reasonable and he's being the normal sort of petulant child he is in this episode.

460
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:36.720
That was the most hilarious part of Jama's review, was him saying, you know, why is this petulant asshole in charge of, you know, this, this is just watching.

461
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.240
And it's, you haven't been watching this show?

462
00:27:39.299 --> 00:27:40.319
Have you not been watching?

463
00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:55.619
But this is like, you know, I'm wondering if somewhere in the middle of season one that, you know, Berman and Bragger were seeing the Russia is coming in and in horror and going, you know, what is this monster we've created at the heart of this series?

464
00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:00.960
And then obviously, you know, maybe this was the chance to, you know, acknowledge that and backtrack.

465
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:05.640
Or just to hang a hat on it, hang a lantern on it, you know.

466
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.640
But this is sort of the beginning of series too.

467
00:28:08.700 --> 00:28:10.619
So it's a good time to do this, you know, all right, fine.

468
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:11.880
Yeah, yeah.

469
00:28:11.940 --> 00:28:13.140
Let's turn this around.

470
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:19.440
Well, I mean, I was surprised in stigma, for instance, that he was actually quite nice and supportive at times.

471
00:28:19.500 --> 00:28:22.200
Like he wasn't just a petulant asshole in that.

472
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.200
I think they get there in the season before.

473
00:28:25.259 --> 00:28:29.700
You know, obviously you've seen season 3 and I know you've got big issues with how of a Hazel 3.

474
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:35.940
Um, and, you know, he's under experience circumstances, and there are sort of political things going on there as well.

475
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.460
But in four, what's the difference in four?

476
00:28:39.420 --> 00:28:42.660
He's nice. and Bragger have left the show.

477
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:43.920
Yes, okay.

478
00:28:43.980 --> 00:28:46.799
Suddenly he's been written very sensitively.

479
00:28:46.859 --> 00:28:47.759
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

480
00:28:48.180 --> 00:28:51.420
Yeah, it just seems Spacular response to it.

481
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:52.319
He responds to it.

482
00:28:52.380 --> 00:28:53.519
There's a couple of really great episodes.

483
00:28:53.579 --> 00:28:56.099
It's just such a waste, isn't it?

484
00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:02.640
Like you get someone as charming as Bacular on the show and then you just make him be so obnoxious all the time.

485
00:29:02.940 --> 00:29:11.220
What's marvellous is, I think you're right, because Hoshi and Tapo and everybody else is sort of looking at each other like, oh, what is he doing now?

486
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:12.599
That's real.

487
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:14.339
They always kind of an asshole.

488
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:15.240
That's right.

489
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.880
Oh, but we're lumbered with him.

490
00:29:17.940 --> 00:29:18.420
So, you know.

491
00:29:18.900 --> 00:29:20.640
Unless.

492
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:23.220
Oh, is this a bit where he writes the swear words down on the pad?

493
00:29:23.339 --> 00:29:27.119
He's like, is this an appropriate response to the protestors?

494
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:28.440
I was like, fuck you or something like that.

495
00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:29.220
I don't know.

496
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:30.599
Well, that was the other thing too.

497
00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:40.140
Like when he says, oh, if, if, you know, if they don't accept that apology, I'll go down there and water the plants myself, and you kind of say, like, are we that coy?

498
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.759
Can we not just say piss on it?

499
00:29:41.819 --> 00:29:45.960
Like, I know it's American television, but it is kind of a bit pathetic.

500
00:29:46.019 --> 00:29:53.460
Oh, look, he's got into an athletic shock, but he's lying there, unmoving because he's just a puppet.

501
00:29:54.299 --> 00:30:07.559
I said, no, no, you know, you know that story about Marco Lehmer holding the baby in Covenant, and it's that animatronic baby, and then all the wiring went crazy, and the baby's like going, imagine if they did that with the dog.

502
00:30:07.619 --> 00:30:09.240
It would be terrible, wouldn't it?

503
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.299
Apparently there's rushes of that, you know.

504
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:13.259
I'd love to see that.

505
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:13.859
Oh my god.

506
00:30:17.220 --> 00:30:19.019
So bad.

507
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.200
So we're having a crisis with a dog.

508
00:30:22.259 --> 00:30:31.740
I do like how his display looks like the displays in the Enterprise in the original series, his little health metres thing.

509
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:32.819
That's kind of cute.

510
00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:36.900
I'd like it to be at those things, you know, where you stop kicking the wall.

511
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.220
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

512
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.160
When they do the exercises, I just have the dog upside down doing that.

513
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.440
Kind of quirky.

514
00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:46.319
Can I talk to you, please, about Starfleet?

515
00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:47.880
have forgot Starfleet yet?

516
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.180
No, because it's just one of the sheep.

517
00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:52.440
You need more than one sheep.

518
00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:52.740
Okay.

519
00:30:52.799 --> 00:31:00.539
About the diplomatic program or education that Archer must have had before coming out into space.

520
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.940
Because I'm not certain, you know, he completed that course.

521
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.440
No, no.

522
00:31:04.500 --> 00:31:10.200
Well, I mean, he, he is, he's just annoyed at them.

523
00:31:10.259 --> 00:31:12.480
You know, it's all their fault.

524
00:31:12.539 --> 00:31:13.559
Look at him, look at him.

525
00:31:13.619 --> 00:31:14.099
Look at him.

526
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.420
They should be apologising.

527
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:17.160
He really is just such a prick.

528
00:31:17.220 --> 00:31:20.220
Oh, things I care more about the dogs in the ship.

529
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:21.240
Well, you do.

530
00:31:24.299 --> 00:31:25.259
Now there's this.

531
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:34.380
This really awful subplot, which fortunately doesn't go anywhere in the long term because we end up pairing her off with Tripp as the 2 most attractive famous of the cast.

532
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:42.539
Well, I was going to ask you about that because I don't remember this. occurring a lot, this archer to poll.

533
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:47.220
No. possible romance. like I did, you know, that it's horrible.

534
00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:49.259
Their relationship in one is pretty horrible.

535
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:58.140
Like he's appalling to her on a regular occasion and then she's off at the side looking a bit put out and thinking what you fucking want to make us.

536
00:31:58.200 --> 00:31:59.279
Yeah, that's right.

537
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:09.119
And then at the end of this season, there's an episode just before the, I think it's the penultimate episode where she reaches her pomphar and heads around the ship.

538
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:10.680
And honestly, it's done like a horror movie.

539
00:32:10.740 --> 00:32:15.960
She's going around the ship, but it's all bizarre angles and scary lighting and she's trying to fuck everybody on the ship.

540
00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:20.880
And then in 3 they go, right, Ashley, let's give her a mature relationship.

541
00:32:20.940 --> 00:32:22.140
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

542
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:26.400
We can't just, we can't make her just be, you know, a sex object anymore.

543
00:32:26.460 --> 00:32:28.559
Let's do something a bit more interesting with that.

544
00:32:28.619 --> 00:32:32.460
And bravo for taking 2 seasons to get there. right.

545
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:42.720
Well, they managed to, I mean, you know, 7 is sexy and she's clearly on screen. to, you know, in that sort of tight leotard thing to...

546
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.700
Are you paired up with Robert Beltran?

547
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:45.539
What are you talking about?

548
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.359
Yeah, but not until the very end.

549
00:32:48.420 --> 00:32:49.799
My God.

550
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:51.900
Oh, this is a dream, the crotessens.

551
00:32:52.740 --> 00:32:55.440
So they're pretty high on the Beaumont scale.

552
00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:56.759
They have appeared on the show before.

553
00:32:56.819 --> 00:33:02.460
They're in a season one episode called Voxola, which I know nothing else about.

554
00:33:02.579 --> 00:33:03.779
No, not really.

555
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.480
They wake up covered in webs or something.

556
00:33:06.539 --> 00:33:09.180
I can't remember, but...

557
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:12.299
These are pretty high scale, aren't they?

558
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.460
They're about a 9.987.

559
00:33:14.700 --> 00:33:18.119
I'd say this is as close to the Beaumont as we've ever got.

560
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:19.740
Yeah, they're pretty...

561
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:26.880
I mean, it's not low effort because there's some makeup in there. not going in there, there's beans, dreadlock beans.

562
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:28.559
Yeah, there's all sorts going on.

563
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:31.559
But, um, oh, damn, mate.

564
00:33:31.619 --> 00:33:33.299
Here we go. a bit tedious.

565
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.980
I mean, I do like the effect of the bat.

566
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.720
And you know that sort of running joke that Blocks has got all these weird creatures, right?

567
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.579
Yeah, I know that's really fun.

568
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:49.079
But you don't see enough of them and it's kind of a nice chance to do it given that there's not much else going on.

569
00:33:49.140 --> 00:33:55.799
And this literally is 2 sort of middle-aged white guys being just absolutely fucking useless.

570
00:33:55.859 --> 00:33:57.420
It's so.

571
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.819
I think 2 blokes going after a spider like this, you know?

572
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:05.940
Look at him crawling about. like origami hawk that he's made and he's making the noise and everything.

573
00:34:06.539 --> 00:34:09.000
He's such an idiot.

574
00:34:09.059 --> 00:34:12.599
And then, oh, she literally is just like, oh, you just do this.

575
00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:16.260
He's pulling a giant face and everything.

576
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:17.099
He's really funny.

577
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:18.300
I, you know.

578
00:34:18.539 --> 00:34:20.219
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

579
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:24.480
No, he even says he'd been practising the noise and he does it a bit afterwards.

580
00:34:24.539 --> 00:34:26.039
He's disappointed it doesn't work.

581
00:34:26.099 --> 00:34:30.599
Oh, I think Billingsley said he really enjoyed having all this time with Bacula.

582
00:34:30.659 --> 00:34:34.019
Yeah, because they didn't usually get a lot of screen time together.

583
00:34:34.139 --> 00:34:36.900
Oh, and he's horrible to him often on the screen too.

584
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.460
It's not terrible CGI that bad.

585
00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:39.719
I think the bat's pretty good.

586
00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:40.920
Why no?

587
00:34:40.980 --> 00:34:43.139
They should stick to bats and stop doing people.

588
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.440
That's stupid big.

589
00:34:47.460 --> 00:34:51.300
Oh, shit, look, it literally looks like he's on like a military mission.

590
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.039
Yeah, yeah, he's going around with that net.

591
00:34:53.099 --> 00:34:55.199
He doesn't know any other weapons.

592
00:34:55.260 --> 00:34:56.039
Oh, what an idiot.

593
00:34:56.099 --> 00:35:00.719
Like, he looked like he was trying to knock that oil into flocks.

594
00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:09.840
I do quite like to see Fox's reaction when Archer asks him if it's poisonous and he just dips his finger in it and then licks it off his finger.

595
00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:11.519
Oh, yeah, he goes, I'll be all right.

596
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.559
It's it's balloons leaves ability to never be fake.

597
00:35:19.619 --> 00:35:21.300
Yeah, yeah, by anything, you know?

598
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:26.039
And I think that's why when there's an episode about his character when he is, that's why that impacts.

599
00:35:26.099 --> 00:35:31.019
Because we're so used to it going, well, I'm polygamous, you know, fuck my wife, if you want to.

600
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.840
It's got a sort of loose 70 sort of thing.

601
00:35:33.900 --> 00:35:38.219
Like he's wearing pyjamas around the around Sick Bay always. you know what I mean?

602
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:39.840
He's got the sort of long hair and stuff.

603
00:35:39.900 --> 00:35:42.300
Did you know that wonderful line?

604
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.380
He says at the end of this where he goes, Oh, I even miss the co-husbands a little bit.

605
00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:48.239
I think that's really gorgeous.

606
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.699
Yeah, he starts...

607
00:35:52.019 --> 00:35:56.639
Blocks goes, no, Archie goes, isn't it complicated or polygamy?

608
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.019
and he goes, well, yeah, that's why we do it.

609
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.239
Life can be a bit boring sometimes in a monogamous relationship.

610
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.380
And I speak from experience.

611
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:08.519
Also, not now.

612
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.119
I'd better shut off.

613
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.079
Are they still catching this bag?

614
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:17.760
Always talking about polygamy.

615
00:36:18.179 --> 00:36:21.000
No, no, no, they're not talking about polygamy.

616
00:36:21.059 --> 00:36:24.300
They're talking about Archer not having had sex for a while.

617
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.099
He's about to ask him straight out.

618
00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:28.860
Is he or has he already asked?

619
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.179
When did you last kind of get off?

620
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.039
I went, God, here we go.

621
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.559
This is like Troy psychobabble, isn't it?

622
00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:44.400
It's like, when you believe that you're sexual conduct, but towards another crew member is inappropriate, you know?

623
00:36:44.460 --> 00:36:45.480
Jesus.

624
00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:53.639
Yeah, yeah, but it's that thing, it's flux, just, like, flux just says you're getting unreasonably angry all the time and you're being a prig.

625
00:36:53.699 --> 00:36:55.860
Oh, okay.

626
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:57.239
Yeah, oh shit, come on.

627
00:36:57.659 --> 00:36:59.280
Watch out.

628
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.539
She was in her hands like that, isn't it?

629
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:07.380
It's lovely.

630
00:37:07.619 --> 00:37:10.800
Okay, that wasn't as agonising as our own.

631
00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:12.119
No, I think that's pretty good, though.

632
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.519
Only, only because I'm watching it.

633
00:37:14.579 --> 00:37:15.900
Yeah, I think it's fun.

634
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.179
I would say...

635
00:37:21.179 --> 00:37:22.860
Oh, look at, look, do you know what?

636
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:29.880
Look, he's got sort of walking out there, a bit of swagger, utter sarcasm, utter contempt, a smirk on his phone.

637
00:37:29.940 --> 00:37:31.079
Could he be less likeable?

638
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:33.000
Yeah, yeah, no, he's obnoxious.

639
00:37:36.059 --> 00:37:38.219
Was that a deliberate choice?

640
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:39.000
I don't know.

641
00:37:39.059 --> 00:37:39.599
I don't know.

642
00:37:39.659 --> 00:37:41.460
I wish you'd seen more Hoshi.

643
00:37:41.579 --> 00:37:43.500
She's hardly been in the episodes.

644
00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:45.719
I mean, who's absent from this episode?

645
00:37:45.780 --> 00:37:48.059
There's no Malcolm and there's no Travis in this episode.

646
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:48.900
Am I right?

647
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.340
I don't see them at all, no.

648
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:51.239
And this is hang time.

649
00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:52.860
This is perfect time.

650
00:37:53.219 --> 00:37:55.260
Oh, no, here we go.

651
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.679
Here we go. bizarre dream sequence.

652
00:37:58.739 --> 00:37:59.579
It's not good.

653
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:01.559
And it's because they don't go into it enough.

654
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.340
Like they're not quite, it's not quite weird enough.

655
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.880
Well, in another interior grave size.

656
00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:11.639
Yeah, but it's a dream sequence, so it does get a pass, I think.

657
00:38:11.699 --> 00:38:14.159
And they've thrown in some rain as well.

658
00:38:14.219 --> 00:38:23.340
I also think that an act of, it's absolute genius to put flocks in a, in the vicar's outfit in the vicar's role.

659
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.199
Because he does have that sort of, you know, that demeanour.

660
00:38:28.260 --> 00:38:29.639
And now we get our...

661
00:38:29.699 --> 00:38:32.820
Don't you tell me, they are not trying to make enterprise, a bit sexier.

662
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:34.679
Oh, no, I mean, look at this.

663
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.079
Nathan, they're holding hands, for goodness sakes.

664
00:38:37.139 --> 00:38:41.219
But we got this explicit reference to the 3 Musketeers, didn't we?

665
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:52.440
Like Porthos's guiding principle was all for one and one for all, you know, I think that that's happening and there's a brilliant 3 Musketeers, 4 Musketeers reference a little bit later on.

666
00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:54.840
So we're redoing this scene.

667
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:55.800
Oh my God.

668
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:56.940
Would you see Archer's underwear there?

669
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.880
That was filling out, isn't it?

670
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.559
Honestly.

671
00:39:01.619 --> 00:39:03.119
Do you know what though, right?

672
00:39:03.179 --> 00:39:04.199
sort of um...

673
00:39:04.380 --> 00:39:07.440
It just looks like they're covering each other in loop.

674
00:39:07.500 --> 00:39:11.639
Yeah, very strange. stupid and it was, it's not very sexy though, is it?

675
00:39:11.699 --> 00:39:16.860
I mean, it was supposed to be, though. in that 1st episode where they're in the decon chamber, and it's him and Tao in that, I think.

676
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:17.579
Yeah, yeah.

677
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:27.119
And they're standing there in silence, you know, silhouetted, glistening stuff all over each other It's horrible It's just, it's so sort of shit and exploitative.

678
00:39:27.179 --> 00:39:28.260
It's an embarrassment.

679
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.900
At least they're making fun of it by having a dog in it this time.

680
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.380
I mean, she is very womanly, isn't she?

681
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:35.760
Look at her fabulous hips.

682
00:39:35.820 --> 00:39:36.179
Yeah.

683
00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:39.480
Jolene Blaylock.

684
00:39:39.539 --> 00:39:40.380
Laylock.

685
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.360
I can actually get a name from Baylock.

686
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:44.219
I don't know.

687
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:45.360
You're right.

688
00:39:45.420 --> 00:39:48.059
They definitely went down the 7 of 9 room with her, didn't they?

689
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.760
It's another. have another hot alien, babe.

690
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:51.780
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

691
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.000
They're contemptuous of everyone.

692
00:39:54.059 --> 00:39:56.219
What am I watching?

693
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.380
She is rubbing it into his hairy chest now.

694
00:39:58.440 --> 00:39:59.460
Yeah, yuck.

695
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:00.239
Stop it.

696
00:40:00.300 --> 00:40:01.139
Oh, God.

697
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.780
Do you remember when Battle Star Galactica did sex?

698
00:40:03.900 --> 00:40:06.719
You know, it was just 2 people ripping their clothes off and going out here.

699
00:40:06.780 --> 00:40:09.239
Yeah, but this can't do that because it's bay or something like that.

700
00:40:09.300 --> 00:40:10.139
Ridiculous.

701
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:11.820
It's so bad.

702
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:16.320
But remember the showers, like the unisex showers when no one really gives a shit?

703
00:40:16.380 --> 00:40:17.639
No, that's really good.

704
00:40:17.699 --> 00:40:18.179
Yeah.

705
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:23.159
But like, it's having the reverse effect of what they're trying to achieve. turning me off.

706
00:40:23.219 --> 00:40:33.719
No, no, because it's the usual sophomoric kind of approach to sex, like the sniggering, absurd, childish kind of response to it.

707
00:40:33.780 --> 00:40:39.719
And the only grown up when it comes to sexuality in the show is, is Dr. Fox, you know?

708
00:40:39.780 --> 00:40:46.139
Even there, you can't have a conversation where they're just talking about, you know, repressed sexual desire.

709
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.239
They got to be chasing a space bat at the same time.

710
00:40:48.300 --> 00:40:51.119
That's the best thing about that scene, right?

711
00:40:52.139 --> 00:40:53.639
So this.

712
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.099
Look at this. was never going to be up to much, was it?

713
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.400
So now he's doing the backstory about how he got Porthos, right?

714
00:40:59.460 --> 00:41:00.960
And it's an ex-girlfriend.

715
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:07.920
And when the dog got pregnant, Scott was the 1st one she called and I thought she was going to like call to accuse him.

716
00:41:07.980 --> 00:41:09.360
You know, is she?

717
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:10.860
Oh, God.

718
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:13.260
I was like, it was Scott.

719
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.420
I'm getting him on the phone or Archer.

720
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.039
I'm getting him on the phone immediately.

721
00:41:17.099 --> 00:41:21.420
That was the 1st place I went, but obviously, that's not where the show went with it.

722
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:22.199
Do you know what?

723
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.840
Yeah, I'm not surprised, but this episode.

724
00:41:24.900 --> 00:41:27.239
Honestly, some of the some of the inferences they're making.

725
00:41:27.300 --> 00:41:28.500
It's so pathetic.

726
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:29.579
But I do quite like that.

727
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:34.079
That's him talking about his, you know, how he got Porthos.

728
00:41:34.139 --> 00:41:34.679
And then this.

729
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:36.599
What about the lead?

730
00:41:36.659 --> 00:41:38.699
It's like every now and again.

731
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.079
Oh, no, I like that.

732
00:41:40.139 --> 00:41:42.119
That's breaking the format isn't it?

733
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:49.199
Okay, thinking obviously one of those procedurals, you know, when they're investigating through the night. you know, he's like, 115.

734
00:41:49.380 --> 00:41:52.380
But I mean, I think that's, I think that's a deliberate thing.

735
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.000
This is them going off format.

736
00:41:54.059 --> 00:41:56.039
It's just set overnight.

737
00:41:56.099 --> 00:41:57.659
It's not set during an adventure.

738
00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:59.219
It's set over a night.

739
00:41:59.280 --> 00:41:59.639
I like that.

740
00:42:01.139 --> 00:42:03.840
Oh, sorry.

741
00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:04.440
Yes.

742
00:42:04.500 --> 00:42:05.519
He said, sorry.

743
00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:08.159
Sorry, I'm a little on edge.

744
00:42:08.219 --> 00:42:08.579
Yeah.

745
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:09.119
Well, yeah.

746
00:42:09.179 --> 00:42:10.139
Oh, no.

747
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:12.000
And then they follow up with the breast line.

748
00:42:12.059 --> 00:42:14.340
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's an embarrassment.

749
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.099
Fuck, and that is the problem.

750
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:25.079
It's these people writing sexual bloody politics where someone could say, I'm not at my breast right now, you know.

751
00:42:25.139 --> 00:42:26.460
I mean, that's 70s.

752
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:27.480
That's how you're being served.

753
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:28.860
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

754
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:29.400
Yeah.

755
00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:40.019
Wait until the lips lisp. list comes in It's only funny because we're taking the piss out of it.

756
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.900
No, no, I don't think that's funny at all.

757
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:43.980
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

758
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:44.400
Yeah.

759
00:42:44.460 --> 00:42:48.059
Although I quite like her absolute failure to react.

760
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:55.619
And then she kind of just gives it the most minute indication that she thinks he's a fucking idiot.

761
00:42:55.739 --> 00:42:59.519
I could be reading that into her performance, but...

762
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:00.480
I just imagine, right?

763
00:43:00.539 --> 00:43:03.300
goes back to her quarters every single night, right?

764
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:10.980
and just slump into a chair. and go, oh, you know, another day, you fucking idiot people.

765
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:17.579
And you know, come series 3 or four, when she starts being in a relationship and friendship.

766
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:18.960
Well, she's just acclimatised.

767
00:43:19.019 --> 00:43:20.099
Stockholm syndrome, isn't it?

768
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:21.960
you've been around these people enough, you adapt.

769
00:43:22.019 --> 00:43:39.300
So this, so the next thing here, we're going to transplant the pituitary gland of a calorician, I don't know, some kind of chameleon into Porthos, and this, like the hilarious thing.

770
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:47.099
The hilarious thing is that is the moment where Archer asks him if there'll be any side effects.

771
00:43:47.099 --> 00:43:54.900
And he says, oh, yes, when he's nervous, he'll tend to merge into the background, you won't be able to see him.

772
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.119
And Archer goes, what?

773
00:43:57.179 --> 00:44:05.880
And because the fun thing about that joke is, of course, he could be telling the truth because this is Star Trek and Star Trek is frequently stupid.

774
00:44:05.940 --> 00:44:10.739
Like, it's just possible that he's actually telling the truth and the dog will go invisible.

775
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.940
And then he just says, no, you know, and he doesn't, he doesn't.

776
00:44:14.940 --> 00:44:20.639
No, I'm, I'm just joking, you know, but again, it's billing till his delivery is so funny.

777
00:44:20.699 --> 00:44:22.139
It's so funny.

778
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:23.699
I'm going, oh, how now?

779
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:26.400
Now we're being racist to the nobulance now.

780
00:44:27.659 --> 00:44:33.179
He's such a prick Well, yeah, no, because he says it, doesn't he?

781
00:44:33.300 --> 00:44:34.500
when he apologises to Flocks.

782
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.079
He says, no, no, you said this about my entire race.

783
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:41.340
So I trust to apologise to all of them, you know, effectively.

784
00:44:41.460 --> 00:44:43.980
So I'm calling Alfie, though.

785
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:44.519
You're right.

786
00:44:44.579 --> 00:44:47.639
I don't think that's a great joke, but I think the delivery is good.

787
00:44:47.699 --> 00:44:49.380
Yeah, I think the delivery's good.

788
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:59.579
But the reason it works at all as a joke is that it could possibly be true because we don't know what the rules are here quite and we know that Star Trek can be ridiculous.

789
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:09.119
Are we saying then that despite the inconsistency of the creative team behind this show, the actors are salvaging a lot of this?

790
00:45:09.179 --> 00:45:14.099
Well, I think I think certainly Billingsley's salvaging a great deal of this.

791
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.980
And so is um Jollene Blaylock too.

792
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:23.699
I mean, that is a weird visual, seeing the dog in the water. with the thing coming out of his head.

793
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:25.380
But that's what I was about to say.

794
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:31.320
Like, there's weird and then there's just uncomfortably... not fun to watch.

795
00:45:31.380 --> 00:45:32.760
Like he's classic.

796
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:34.199
What's her face?

797
00:45:34.260 --> 00:45:36.239
She thinks that's her dog in there, you know?

798
00:45:36.300 --> 00:45:37.559
She's very upset.

799
00:45:37.619 --> 00:45:38.340
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

800
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:50.940
But this sequence where Flux talks about his extended family, the polygamy on Denobula, and I thought it was really well played because R is actually listening to him.

801
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:51.960
He's learning about him.

802
00:45:52.079 --> 00:46:07.320
And there's that weird detail which they don't need to include, and I don't know why they included, where he has 2 sons that he doesn't speak to and that he has a fractious relationship with them and he...

803
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.059
Don't know if that was supposed to be followed up.

804
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:09.539
It isn't.

805
00:46:09.659 --> 00:46:13.920
But, but, and then he just says... but I miss them all.

806
00:46:13.980 --> 00:46:17.280
And I just thought that is so, that's beautiful.

807
00:46:17.340 --> 00:46:18.179
Yeah, here it is.

808
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.900
He'll have the ability to merge into the background when he's frightened.

809
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:22.980
You're kidding.

810
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:24.059
And he goes, yep.

811
00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:28.199
So good.

812
00:46:28.619 --> 00:46:31.980
But yeah, I think that's a properly touching thing.

813
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:37.320
I think Billingsley sells all of weirdness as the most natural thing ever.

814
00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:39.420
You have to be in Star Trek, I think.

815
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:42.119
Um, but then he sells the emotion as well.

816
00:46:42.179 --> 00:46:42.840
Yeah.

817
00:46:42.900 --> 00:46:43.559
Yeah.

818
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:45.059
No, I think this is a lovely thing.

819
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.800
Essentially, what we're saying is Winnie more Billingsley in every episode. absolutely.

820
00:46:50.760 --> 00:47:00.840
And it is that thing too, where these guys are so sort of weirded out by polygamy and it's kind of like, for God's sake, just grow up.

821
00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:02.699
Yeah.

822
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:13.019
But I will I'll give them the props for having a single character. that talks about it so blase, you know, like, they didn't even have to do that.

823
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:14.579
It's something.

824
00:47:14.699 --> 00:47:15.719
Take something.

825
00:47:15.780 --> 00:47:16.199
I agree.

826
00:47:16.260 --> 00:47:25.679
I think it is something And making him different in a way that, you know, like he's not gay or something, like he's not a gay Klingon or, you know, anything like that.

827
00:47:25.739 --> 00:47:28.380
It is just an arrangement that's unusual.

828
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:29.460
Oh, I'd love to see that.

829
00:47:29.460 --> 00:47:30.420
A gay Klinger?

830
00:47:31.260 --> 00:47:34.860
Orville, the Orville, for God's sake, there's a whole planet off them.

831
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.380
Oh, it's more...

832
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.000
Oh, lovely.

833
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.639
I know, bitch, like queen.

834
00:47:41.699 --> 00:47:42.719
Now it's fabulous.

835
00:47:42.780 --> 00:47:45.059
But look at look at him playing it.

836
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:54.000
He's still, he's still kind of looking at the instruments and looking at his monitors and all of that sort of thing, but he is delivering this.

837
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:59.099
He's got that weird way of speaking too, where he speaks out of one corner of his mouth.

838
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:06.000
I don't know if that's Billingsley or if that's a flux thing, but, Joe, I love.

839
00:48:06.059 --> 00:48:07.860
He says about, yeah, of course I miss them.

840
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:09.119
Yeah, you're asking me if I miss them.

841
00:48:09.179 --> 00:48:09.599
Yeah, I do.

842
00:48:09.659 --> 00:48:13.260
And there's nowhere I'd rather be there here.

843
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:14.639
I love that sentiment.

844
00:48:14.699 --> 00:48:16.260
I was like, thank God summer wants to be there.

845
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:17.340
Yeah, that's right.

846
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.340
I'm like, this asshole is talking to.

847
00:48:22.380 --> 00:48:24.420
So is it this?

848
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:30.840
When did he reach his, you know, epiphanies, revelation that, in fact, he is the problem.

849
00:48:30.900 --> 00:48:32.880
Well, he's got to try something bad.

850
00:48:32.940 --> 00:48:34.980
He's already the apology. is his 1st apology.

851
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:36.599
There he is.

852
00:48:36.659 --> 00:48:42.119
He's apologising because you accuse my entire race of being intense.

853
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:46.260
But again, like he's off looking at a, he's not meeting his eye.

854
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.320
He doesn't he's not sort of slamming him or anything.

855
00:48:49.380 --> 00:48:52.800
He's just mentioning it while he looks at his instruments and stuff.

856
00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:55.199
Like, he's really...

857
00:48:55.260 --> 00:48:59.639
Honestly, no, we're going to Denobi, and you're going to make a public speech to everyone.

858
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.679
In alphabetical order.

859
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:08.400
And badly, there was poll saying that you were incapable of apologising.

860
00:49:08.460 --> 00:49:11.460
Like...

861
00:49:11.460 --> 00:49:12.840
That's really good.

862
00:49:12.900 --> 00:49:15.300
Very good CGI shop.

863
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:15.719
Yeah.

864
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:22.380
We've been a little bit unkind about CJ Island, but actually, it didn't look at all sort of cartoony, is it?

865
00:49:22.380 --> 00:49:24.780
It was a little bit cartoony, but the design was beautiful.

866
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:25.800
It was a good thought.

867
00:49:25.860 --> 00:49:26.639
Oh, yeah.

868
00:49:27.539 --> 00:49:33.119
I think what's happened here is they pulled in these aliens, you know, and said, right, you stand over there.

869
00:49:33.179 --> 00:49:38.579
Right, Scott, go over there, chop a bit of that log off, and then just do something with it.

870
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:42.539
Say, say some weird space language and do something with a log.

871
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:44.039
They'll smile in the scene.

872
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.079
I mean, what is this seen?

873
00:49:46.139 --> 00:49:46.980
What is it?

874
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:48.599
Like what's happening?

875
00:49:48.659 --> 00:49:50.760
Like, is it funny?

876
00:49:50.820 --> 00:49:52.800
Is it...

877
00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:53.760
No, it's just weird.

878
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:54.900
Yeah, yeah.

879
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:56.460
Like, and weird is okay.

880
00:49:56.519 --> 00:50:11.519
But, like, I, I was kind of hoping that he would fuck it up in some spectacular way by doing something even ruder, you know, at the end, and like, he, you know, kick, kick his tongue, and then they say, oh, fuck.

881
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:15.960
It keeps cutting to the credessons, looking a bit appalled.

882
00:50:16.019 --> 00:50:18.179
So I kept thinking, oh, no, this is all going wrong.

883
00:50:18.300 --> 00:50:21.960
And then it cuts to to par when that lot going, oh, is he getting it right?

884
00:50:22.019 --> 00:50:26.760
And then it's not till the end of the scene where you get the payoff and they're all smiling and you're like, okay, this worked.

885
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:28.920
It's really it's just...

886
00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:33.960
I mean, it's done without dialogue, so we've got no clue what any of it means.

887
00:50:34.019 --> 00:50:43.079
Actually, Hoshi just did that final shot with Hoshi just smiling a little bit at him being humiliated because he's such a dick all the time.

888
00:50:43.139 --> 00:50:45.659
Um, So here we go.

889
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.639
He's a com very strange.

890
00:50:47.699 --> 00:50:49.860
But he's him apologising again.

891
00:50:49.920 --> 00:51:07.320
And so even even just that thematic unity of the alien plot being about apologising and then the actual character plot being about apologising to poll, to 1st to the doctor and then to poll, I think that's surprising.

892
00:51:09.059 --> 00:51:13.320
And he goes, I've been getting so much practice, apologising to people.

893
00:51:13.380 --> 00:51:14.579
Oh, may as well give you one as well.

894
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.739
Well, see, that's the sexual tension again.

895
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.039
I may as well give you one is what he meant to say.

896
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.260
All right, well, you're coming in February.

897
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.360
Oh, God.

898
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:31.559
We need to stop.

899
00:51:33.059 --> 00:51:37.559
Whenever people work in close callers, waters for extended periods of time.

900
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:41.699
Yep, they all want to have sex with each other. talking about their sexual chemistry here.

901
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:42.420
Yeah, yep.

902
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:42.960
Yeah.

903
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.079
But she she rules it out.

904
00:51:46.139 --> 00:51:53.519
I would feel very uncomfortable if someone came up to me at work and started thinking a conversation about sexual chemistry.

905
00:51:53.579 --> 00:51:55.260
Look at, look at, close it down.

906
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.619
Then it's good. not in a position to allow ourselves to become attract into one another.

907
00:51:58.980 --> 00:52:04.019
She just, and she, yeah, she basically cuts him off by saying the word hypothetically.

908
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:06.300
That's right.

909
00:52:06.300 --> 00:52:10.260
He looks so emasculated by that word.

910
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:10.860
He really does.

911
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:12.239
Oh wow.

912
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.059
Guess I'm having a wank tonight, then.

913
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.159
She turns ahead, but still looks at him as she walks off.

914
00:52:20.579 --> 00:52:22.500
Oh my god.

915
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.500
This has been surprisingly fun to talk about this one, you know?

916
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:28.500
I just think it's quite entertaining.

917
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.780
Like, it's, you know, it's not good.

918
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:33.840
But there are good things in it.

919
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:38.400
And certainly giving flocks a big role is an absolute win.

920
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:42.000
Is he back to apologise again?

921
00:52:42.059 --> 00:52:43.079
What's going on now?

922
00:52:43.139 --> 00:52:44.820
Um, no, he's here.

923
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:48.179
Yeah, well, no, he's thanking him for the dog for looking after the dog.

924
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:54.059
And look, where is the joyful reunion of the dog?

925
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.280
And I...

926
00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:58.920
Which should be the combination of essentially...

927
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:01.260
No, we just...

928
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:05.519
So you, I just sort of assume that maybe Archer doesn't like that.

929
00:53:05.579 --> 00:53:08.639
Oh, look, he smiled for a 2nd at the fucking puppet.

930
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:10.739
The dog the dog is lifeless.

931
00:53:14.099 --> 00:53:16.139
Like, nothing.

932
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:17.039
We get nothing back.

933
00:53:17.099 --> 00:53:18.420
It's so bad.

934
00:53:18.900 --> 00:53:20.519
Honestly.

935
00:53:20.699 --> 00:53:23.579
Honestly, he's just asleep, not a puppet.

936
00:53:23.699 --> 00:53:25.559
Oh, yeah, no, I think sure.

937
00:53:25.619 --> 00:53:27.179
Is he moving?

938
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:27.900
Yeah.

939
00:53:27.900 --> 00:53:31.500
The dog is like, you get me out of this bloody box.

940
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:33.059
Oh, look, he's got a Band-Aid on his head.

941
00:53:34.139 --> 00:53:36.480
Oh, look, he jumped off.

942
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:37.500
No.

943
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.360
Yeah, yeah, he jumped up, but look at the dog's face.

944
00:53:39.420 --> 00:53:43.500
No, he's not... looking off camera at his owner.

945
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:46.139
He's absolutely not interested in Archer at all.

946
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.880
Thick way's all yours. welcome back anytime.

947
00:53:50.940 --> 00:53:52.079
No, let's not do this again.

948
00:53:52.139 --> 00:53:53.880
Please, let's all do this again.

949
00:53:53.940 --> 00:53:55.860
It's bloody.

950
00:53:55.860 --> 00:53:57.179
He does the big smile.

951
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:01.860
He does the big giant CG smile. for the welcome.

952
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:11.400
Now, I am going to do what I are very often do, and that is a small comparison because there's an episode in series one called Doctor's Orders, I believe.

953
00:54:11.460 --> 00:54:29.400
And the episode is structured around letters between flocks and another doctor from another institute that he knows and concerns concerns like an ethical dilemma that flux is going through and him sort of ruminating on it after the fact.

954
00:54:29.460 --> 00:54:31.739
So we're seeing the episode in flashback.

955
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.199
And it's a fantastic piece of writing.

956
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:36.000
And Billingsley is brilliant, isn't it?

957
00:54:36.059 --> 00:54:40.079
Well, let me tell you, this is Billingsley's big episode in series two.

958
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:43.440
Well, I don't think we're going in the right direction.

959
00:54:43.500 --> 00:54:47.280
She does get the opportunity to rescue a whole bunch of stuff, at least.

960
00:54:47.340 --> 00:54:59.219
But, I mean, the thing that struck me was just how straightforwardly this seemed to be about Archer being an asshole and having to having to apologise to everyone because he was such an asshole.

961
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.199
Well, that's the point, though.

962
00:55:01.260 --> 00:55:02.159
That one is series one.

963
00:55:02.219 --> 00:55:04.260
There is minimal archer in that episode.

964
00:55:04.380 --> 00:55:06.599
So naturally, it's fantastic.

965
00:55:06.659 --> 00:55:09.719
It's maximum Billingsley and minimal bacular.

966
00:55:09.780 --> 00:55:21.539
We have to try and get a series four, even if it ends up being in the middle of a trilogy or something, just so that I can see a more relaxed, more charming Jonathan Archer, I think.

967
00:55:21.659 --> 00:55:34.260
I'd really like you to see home in series 4, which is like post, just after the Zindiak, just after the switch front, when they dash about with Nazis or something for 2 episodes. and put the timeline back.

968
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.500
And then he's basically ruminating on the last 3 years.

969
00:55:38.460 --> 00:55:46.139
And he goes climbing climbing up the rocks with an X squeeze and it's it's quite thoughtful and he's just really gentle and lovely in it.

970
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:48.059
I'm like, who's this?

971
00:55:55.139 --> 00:56:01.320
So it's the end of the episode, and we are going to choose a Star Trek story for our next episode.

972
00:56:01.380 --> 00:56:04.800
And Joe, it's your turn on the randomiser.

973
00:56:04.860 --> 00:56:06.480
Yeah, I'm here.

974
00:56:06.539 --> 00:56:19.679
And after 2 episodes of having to watch the absolute Drek of the Star Trek franchise, I will keep pressing this button until I find something mildly enjoyable for us both to watch.

975
00:56:19.739 --> 00:56:25.920
You know those ones where we think they're really great before we watch them and then we watch them and they're kind of terrible.

976
00:56:25.980 --> 00:56:27.420
Hoping so.

977
00:56:27.539 --> 00:56:32.039
We've had a few where we've gone the other way as well. like, oh, was this going to be great?

978
00:56:32.099 --> 00:56:33.780
And well, this, you and this.

979
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:34.559
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

980
00:56:34.619 --> 00:56:34.980
Yeah.

981
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:36.420
This is a lot better than I expected.

982
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.119
Okay, well, you know, I could be pressing for a while.

983
00:56:39.179 --> 00:56:40.860
This is the Star Trek franchise after all.

984
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.900
Are you just, what series are you choosing from?

985
00:56:43.019 --> 00:56:45.119
Oh, all of them, I'm just going to put them all in.

986
00:56:45.179 --> 00:56:51.300
Originally, I was just going to do next gen, but I figured I've got a better hit rate of getting something good if I put them all in.

987
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:52.079
All right, okay.

988
00:56:52.139 --> 00:56:53.519
Okay, off you go.

989
00:56:53.579 --> 00:56:54.960
Press.

990
00:56:55.019 --> 00:56:59.219
Your Star Trek Voyager episode is season six, episode 25.

991
00:56:59.460 --> 00:57:01.079
The haunting of deck 12.

992
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:02.639
Oh, it's abysmal.

993
00:57:02.699 --> 00:57:03.719
Remember that one?

994
00:57:03.780 --> 00:57:04.559
Telling a story.

995
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:07.019
It's an Elix telling a story to the Borg children or something.

996
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:13.199
About some sentient gas that's taken over the ship and, you know, I'll press it again.

997
00:57:13.260 --> 00:57:13.559
Okay.

998
00:57:13.619 --> 00:57:16.619
Oh, that sounds promising.

999
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:25.139
Or Star Trek, the Space 9 episode is season five, episode 13 for the uniform.

1000
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.260
Ooh, is that a 2 partner?

1001
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:34.500
No, that's, that's, that's, we're continuing our, our journey.

1002
00:57:34.500 --> 00:57:36.239
Michael, the career of Michael Eddington.

1003
00:57:37.260 --> 00:57:42.000
And it's the one where Cisco is like the mad villain, bombing planet.

1004
00:57:42.059 --> 00:57:43.139
He's Javert.

1005
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:45.420
Oh, I don't know, I'm tempted.

1006
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:46.440
It is fantastic.

1007
00:57:46.980 --> 00:57:49.980
But we have done a lot of 90s trek lately.

1008
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:52.619
I wouldn't mind.

1009
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:53.159
Okay.

1010
00:57:53.219 --> 00:57:54.000
No, push it again.

1011
00:57:54.059 --> 00:57:56.159
I pressed it again.

1012
00:57:56.219 --> 00:57:56.699
Okay.

1013
00:57:56.760 --> 00:58:03.000
Your Star Trek Enterprise episode is season 3, episode 21, E squared.

1014
00:58:03.059 --> 00:58:09.300
Oh, no, it's right in the middle of the Zindi Arc, and they do this sort of, it's a bit children of timy.

1015
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:09.900
Oh, okay.

1016
00:58:09.900 --> 00:58:12.539
It's the descendants of enterprise in the Delphic Expanse.

1017
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:13.860
Oh, I have watched that.

1018
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.539
I've actually seen that recently recently recently.

1019
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:16.320
It's terrible.

1020
00:58:16.380 --> 00:58:17.280
I'm going to press it again.

1021
00:58:17.340 --> 00:58:19.079
Oh, here we go.

1022
00:58:19.139 --> 00:58:19.619
This is it.

1023
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:20.099
Okay.

1024
00:58:20.099 --> 00:58:21.179
We've got a classic.

1025
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.099
We've got a classic on our hands.

1026
00:58:23.219 --> 00:58:28.619
Your Star Trek, the next generation episode is season five, episode two.

1027
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:30.780
Darmok.

1028
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.440
That's brilliant.

1029
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:39.780
Joe and Nathan at the microphones.

1030
00:58:40.139 --> 00:58:49.260
I am going to watch lots of lower decks in preparation because they have a Tamarian security officer who is pretty great.

1031
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:53.039
We haven't done a next generation episode for 10 episodes now.

1032
00:58:53.099 --> 00:58:54.000
It has been a while.

1033
00:58:54.059 --> 00:58:55.500
And that is a good evening.

1034
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:57.960
It is really good. a celebrated episode.

1035
00:58:58.019 --> 00:58:58.980
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1036
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:00.599
And I think with good reason too.

1037
00:59:00.659 --> 00:59:07.679
I think it is pretty good Oh, please, please don't be one of those ones so we go back and watch it.

1038
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:08.280
I can always say.

1039
00:59:08.340 --> 00:59:09.960
No, no, no, no. pretty sure it won't be.

1040
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:14.400
I seem to remember the fella who plays Darmok is very, very cute.

1041
00:59:14.460 --> 00:59:15.360
Like, it's really charming.

1042
00:59:15.420 --> 00:59:16.380
Yeah, yeah.

1043
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.019
I can't remember his name now Oh well, let's do it.

1044
00:59:26.820 --> 00:59:37.679
You've been listening to entitled Star Trek Project with Joe Ford and Nathan Bottomley, where online at Untitled Star Trek Project.com, where you can find links to our Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel.

1045
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:42.960
Our podcast artwork is via Kayla Sisrin, and the theme was composed by Cameron Lamb.

1046
00:59:43.019 --> 00:59:48.360
This episode was recorded on the 6th of October 2022 and released on the 14th of October.

1047
00:59:48.420 --> 00:59:52.920
We'll see you next time for Star Trek the Next Generation, Darmok.

1048
01:00:10.980 --> 01:00:12.059
I think that's an out.

1049
01:00:12.179 --> 01:00:13.500
Yeah.

1050
01:00:13.500 --> 01:00:18.360
I actually want to, I actually want to go out with you saying, who's this?

1051
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:19.559
And then laugh.

1052
01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:22.199
That's really funny.

1053
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:25.800
How do you sum that up?

1054
01:00:25.860 --> 01:00:26.579
Yeah, but that's it.

1055
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:28.019
Well, no, it's a whole episode.

1056
01:00:28.139 --> 01:00:30.179
It's a whole episode about him being an asshole.

1057
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:38.579
So it ended on a positive note where he ends up being really nice, you know, and then undercut it by saying, why wasn't it like this all along?

1058
01:00:38.699 --> 01:00:43.860
Well, please, I've got a wonderful reason as to how I'm going to randomise.

1059
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:44.639
All right.

1060
01:00:44.699 --> 01:00:48.179
We've watched a lot of shit lately and it would be nice.

1061
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:48.960
Basically, yes.

1062
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:50.699
Basically, yeah.

1063
01:00:51.300 --> 01:00:53.219
Yeah, all right.