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Hey, Joe. Hello, hello, hello.

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So, we are watching what I think is an unjustly maligned episode

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of Star Trek Enterprise.

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We discovered last week that a night in Sick Bay was given one

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star by Jama, who just thought it was super terrible.

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And I have to say that watching it, I thought it was the best of

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the 4 that we have so far done for Untitled Star Trek project.

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Can I ask you something?

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What happened to you?

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on this thing?

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All right.

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We watched Endgame last week, and this week we're watching a night

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in Stick Bay, and you're being extraordinarily kind to these

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pieces of shite.

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I must say.

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Well, I don't I don't, well, look, I mean, it's a Star Trek

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episode and it's a pretty ropey Star Trek episode, but I certainly

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don't think it deserves the sort of hatred.

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It's not code of honour bad.

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It's not threshold bad.

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It is.

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I think this is probably bombs here, Trek.

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Oh, you think?

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for me.

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Yeah.

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Do you know what?

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One article I read online said that this episode was singularly

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responsible for the demise of 90s Star Trek.

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Oh no, that's not true.

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It's, uh, we all know that it was Bacular.

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Way to sync the franchise bacula.

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Well, I told you off mic that I was just, you know, looking about

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to see what critical opinion of a night in Sick Bay was, and I

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found this fabulous YouTube video, this 10 minute YouTuber, this

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mad Scott Bacula fan who'd never really watched Star Trek before.

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So she chose to watch literally the 1st 2 series of Enterprise and

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she starts off this video saying, what have they done to my

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precious Scott Bacula?

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Oh, it's marvellous.

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I mean, and then she details basically everything that kind of

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went wrong with him in this.

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And there's a lot.

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There's a lot to unpick it.

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We just got back to that and Captain Archer.

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Yeah, and I can't quite tell what's going on because it seems to

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me, like, it is an episode where Archer is being an asshole, as

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usual, but then he's forced to apologise, and the A-plot is him

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having to apologise.

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Well, I guess it's the B plot.

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I guess they're all B plots, really, in this episode.

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But the B plot about the cratassum.

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There's not really any jeopardy, is there?

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No, but I think that's okay.

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That's one of the things that I like.

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It's a bit like day to day or, you know, like in the car...

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, but you know what?

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Data stay in and looking for a plum up, involve a cast of

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fascinating regular characters.

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A night in Sick Bay involves, wow, the enterprise crew.

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Yeah, but I have to say that, you know, Flux is pretty damn great

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and he's really good in this.

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This was the 1st time I found him a bit annoying, actually.

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And I think it's because they were trying to drag sitcom comedy

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out of him.

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So all those sort of quirks cutting his toenails and peeling his

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tongue and all of this, just for the express purpose of annoying

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Captain Archer who's in the bed trying to sleep.

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I'm just like, is this where we're at with Star Trek now?

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Like is this what is being sold as, you know, decent drama or

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comedy?

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Well, but I mean, that's this week, you know, and then next week

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they'll be back and they'll be, you know, every bit is racist and

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thoughtless as usual.

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And I guess that just for one week having the stakes be very low

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and having the time.

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Excuse me, I'm going to interrupt you there for a second.

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If you're telling me, you don't think Captain Archer is racist for

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out this entire episode.

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And I don't think him doing that strange ceremony, whatever he's

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doing at the end of this in any way makes up for the fact that

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he's supposed to be out here as, you know, what is the purpose of

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it?

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They supposed to go out to meet civilisations to learn from them.

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He basically comes along, takes his dog down on the away mission.

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Why the fuck did he do that?

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He's never done it before. he's done it once before, right?

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there weren't going to be people around.

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And then because, you know, of a decision he made, they're

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insulted and then he spends the next half hour slagging him off.

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No, but I mean when he apologises to the other members of his crew

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for being such an asshole.

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So there's one plot where there's an official formal apology, but

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that's followed up by him apologising to people that he's been a

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dick to like to poll in this episode.

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Well, you said to me that you thought this was an acknowledgement

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that one, that the show perhaps wasn't working, and 2, that they

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had written this complete fucking arsehole as the lead.

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So to give an episode where that is kind of exposed entirely and

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then he makes his apologies.

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Well, fine, then that should be the tipping point then, didn't

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it?

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And from now on, we've got agreeable, lovely arch, but you and I

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know that's not the case at all.

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They don't learn the lesson.

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No, no.

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And what was the point of highlighting it here?

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Well, I don't even know whether it's deliberate or whether it's

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just me reading it perversely, but so much of it is about him

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being just an obnoxious prick and some of it's actually played for

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laughs and I actually quite liked that.

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Do you think anybody out there likes Captain Archer?

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I don't know.

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I think people probably do, but I just remember coming back to

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Enterprise for this podcast and just discovering how massively

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unlikeable he is.

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And, you know, like I wasn't a massive quantum leap fan, but I

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watched a fair share of it.

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He was so charming. charisma.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. sonified.

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I mean, he was so charm.

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And the way he could play on your emotions in some of that, you

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know, some of the hard-hitting topics, that's just none of that

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here at all.

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It's just really, really adultures.

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It was one bit, right?

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Where he was sitting in his quarters, watching water polo, and

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throwing a ball against the wall.

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And I was like, are you the whitest man I've ever seen on

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television?

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Not just the water polo thing is so pathetic. honestly, he may as

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well play lacrosse.

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Oh, very strange.

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And you know, we'll talk about this in the episode, but I do need

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to just ask you, what on earth?

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They were thinking, right?

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Because I think the relationship between Archer and the dog.

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It's cute.

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But then they do this dream sequence in this episode, which starts

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off at the funeral of Porthos, and then becomes this very strange

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sexual wet dream about the pulp, and I don't know, what connection

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they were trying to make there between the two?

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But it was very very strange.

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I actually think that he's being unlikeable extends to his

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relationship with the dog because when the dog gets sick, he

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mostly sees it as an excuse to be aggrieved about the cratassins

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and he just seems to show very little affection or anything, like

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you know, partly because the dog is a, you know, a lot of the time

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just a sort of dog shaped doll in a plastic fish tank for quite a

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lot of the episode.

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Like a lot of the episode, not just when he's submerged and

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they're operating on him, but when he's in the sort of survival

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chamber thing.

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It's often just a puppet, the memory alpha page describes it as a

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prosthetic dog.

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It's like not real.

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It's been made by the prop makers for Star Trek Enterprise.

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So it looks pretty convincing.

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But he just shows no affection for it.

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And the dog doesn't seem interested in him at all, either. at

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all.

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No, there doesn't seem to be any great relation.

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I think there's, I was reading on Wikipedia. 2 dogs and he had a

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lot of trouble in this episode because he was asked to like be in

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the decontamination room on his own and things like this away from

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the owner.

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And so there were a lot of issues here.

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So yeah, I think in fact, and I'm sure they didn't put a real dog

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in that vat of liquid, drill a hole in his head.

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You know?

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That was a very strange scene, you know.

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I was like, well, I'm this... blocks.

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It's opening up about his big family, which I thought was actually

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a very gentle character moment that worked, one of the few in this

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that did.

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And at the same point, they're drilling out in the dog's head. in

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this vat of liquid. bizarre.

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But do you know what?

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I know you've got dogs and you're a big dog man.

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So I'm going to push this point too hard, but I think the dog is a

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problem in this show.

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If we are getting to a point where an entire episode is being

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written around the dog sick in Sick Bay.

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Oh, I just, I just don't think that is in any way interesting.

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I mean, it's like centring an episode on Morn.

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He's essentially scenery.

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Do you know what I mean?

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And the occasional punchline of a gag?

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And then we kind of go, I know.

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Well, at least it's still an episode about that.

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Or it's like having an... a wealth of colourful characters coming

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in and there's a big, like, crime plot.

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There's interesting things going on.

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This is literally just hanging around waiting for the dog to get

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better.

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I'm like, what are we doing?

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Well, we're just watching Archer be a massive asshole, I think, is

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the... do we want to do that?

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Well, we have to do it every week, but at least they're

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acknowledging it.

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At least they're acknowledging it this week.

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Oh my god, I knew this was going to be fun for all that.

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I just knew it.

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And you know what?

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before we go in.

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I knew something you're going to back on my head. knew how fucking

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contrary you was and I knew you were going to get some pleasure

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from this.

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Yeah, no, I think it's, I think it's fun.

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I felt like big space battles and all of that.

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That's not necessarily why I'm here.

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Yeah, baby.

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Now you're talking.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm not necessarily here for that.

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And I think something that leans into Star Trek being stupid, which

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is certainly what the Crotassans do.

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And just a sort of examination of the characters.

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And I think there's stuff about men and women there as well, which

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is kind of a refreshing change.

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Yeah, but I, again, I think it's a little bit troubling and we'll

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talk about that as we're going through as they're rubbing

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decontamination gel all over each other's bodies.

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And a very strange bit where, Hoshi's rubbing it into Tapol, to

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poles rubbing it into Archer, and Archer's rubbing it into the dog

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and I'm like, is this supposed to be sexy?

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Because I'm, this is some weird shit going on?

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No, it's absolutely not.

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But that comes quite early on.

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Let's talk about that when we get started.

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But have you seen the trailer for this episode?

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No.

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Okay.

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Oh, I'm not too scared to tell you how they how they emphasise

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this episode.

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So it's the sequence where Archer goes.

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Yes, it'll be the breast instead of best, right?

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So it's him saying that line and then it cuts to lots of reaction

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shots of the crew going, oh, oh, oh, as if that's what happened

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you know, sort of rocky horror.

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Dr. Snap, Janet, Brad.

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A bit like that.

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And then the voiceover goes, you know, Star Trek Enterprise is

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sexier than ever.

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I was like, so they were going for sex.

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I'm telling you, and it worked because there was a spike in the

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ratings for this one.

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Oh my god.

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It got 0.600000 more than usual.

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Those horny buggers.

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They want to see the relationship between Archer and Corthorse.

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We were all tuning in this week.

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Okay, should we watch this?

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let's watch it.

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I'm going to count this in before I lose the will to live.

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Do you know what?

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like being the one who don't like things.

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Okay, to be the naughty one in the conversation.

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Okay, you tell me when.

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All right, so I'll count us in. 5, 4, 3, 2, one, and we're off.

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There is one joy in watching it, surprise, you know, we get the

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theme tune every time.

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I love it.

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It's so singable.

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It's so terrible.

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Oh, here we go.

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But this, don't you be telling me this isn't supposed to be sexy.

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No, it's not supposed to be sexy.

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In fact, I think it's making fun of these scenes and these scenes

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were absolutely exploitative and just an excuse to get, you know

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trip and trips show.

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You go watch that trailer.

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All right.

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But this, this, this makes it funny because, you know, you've got

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2 attractive women rubbing gel into each other, then you've got

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someone rubbing gel into Archer, and then you've got Archer

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rubbing it into a dog. you know, like there's no way that that

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isn't meant to take the piece out of those scenes from earlier

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episodes.

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Brennan Braga and Rick Bourbon have the ability to look at their

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own previous mistakes and then take the Mickey album?

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I think so.

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I definitely think that that has to be what's happening on this

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the highest thing you've ever said about them, you know, maybe.

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So he's already being an asshole, isn't he?

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He's already complaining about the aliens of the week.

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He is.

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I have to say that woman on YouTube was appalled by Tapole's

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makeup, her underwear in this thing because when she walks out the

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door, it's riding right up her ass.

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I think I might have said.

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I mean, I'm going, well, I'm going to say that seeing it's got a

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back, you know, with his kit off, listening like that is a

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terrible thing.

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No, no, no, not at all.

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But you know, even when he does that fucking stupid ceremony at

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the end. his lovely hairy chest out.

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So it's something worth looking at.

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Oh, what a good boy.

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He is a good boy.

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The thing is, is I've seen how your dogs react to you, right?

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Yeah, and there's they're always, absolutely, they're obsessed

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with you.

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Yeah, yeah.

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They're always around you, plucking around you and wanting to be

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touched by you.

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Bad dog.

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It's not anything...

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Neither of them are giving it either one anything.

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Do you think the dog is supposed to make Jonathan Archer a more

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presentable human being?

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Well, possibly, but I think it's probably of a piece with the

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baseball cap and the, you know, sports metaphors and all of that

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sort of shit, like it's supposed to make him just an all American

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white guy, you know, in a way that I just find hugely obnoxious.

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This song.

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I know that people hate it and they're right to hate it, but I

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just sing it every time that I watch it.

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He's so bad.

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Were you just one time?

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Were you just put the music very gently underneath as we're

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talking?

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everyone can enjoy it.

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I think the 1st time we did Enterprise, I could, and an

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instrumental version under the closing credits of our episode.

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I don't know if you remember.

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But you know what, right?

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This is exactly what these lyrics are saying, this is exactly what

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Valiant in DS9 was taking a piss out of.

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I can do anything, you know?

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I can touch the sky.

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I can take on, you know, civilisations.

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But I mean, they who are not going to watch out.

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India coming.

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Yeah that's right.

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But they're not going to hold me down no more.

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That's the Vulcans, right?

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Is that what they're talking about explicitly, the Bulcans?

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Don't you think?

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think so.

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I don't think that's what Russell Watson was thinking.

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I think it is either, but I think that's definitely what I take.

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Don't tell me they creatively take the show to that song.

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Surely not.

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No, no, I will be surprised.

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I do love these sets.

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I was watching this.

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I was very aware of I do like the sort of functional nature of the

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Enterprise sets.

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Yeah.

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I think they're... practical climbing over...

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Well, they are, yeah, they're boring colours and things.

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But it means the actors get to do a lot of physical work.

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That's more interesting than just sitting around in a room, you

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know?

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And I kind of like how professional, how incredibly professional

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trip is here and how he's the actual grown up in the room while

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Baculus being just a massive asshole because, you know, like...

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Oh, post-series 2.

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He often was the the, well, mature one.

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In series one, they tried to play him as a bit of a jock.

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He's going down on rise of type planets and, you know, he's being

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a bit of a teenager.

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And then they realised Connor Triner could actually do drama

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really well.

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So they started writing him a bit more sophisticatedly.

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Yeah, I think he's good.

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Like, I don't, I think he's one of the top two, isn't he?

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It's him and Billings on him?

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Of this show.

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It's him and Paul, isn't it?

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Yeah, it's a polar very good thing. too.

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Yeah.

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And I think she gets to do some really good stuff here too.

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I mean, that's when things get really sexy when she starts

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skipping him massages.

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Oh, I've seen that.

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Is this the real dog or the puppet dog?

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I'm going for the puppet dog.

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I'm not sure.

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The 2 dogs, just for your information, were called breezy and

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windy.

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Yes, I think I knew that.

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They must have farted on the sand a lot.

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There's the real dog in close-up.

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Oh, no, there's the fake dog.

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No, that's a real dog.

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Oh, there he is.

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Yeah, you're right.

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Yeah.

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Okay, John Billingsley as Dr. Flocks. we both love him.

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Yep.

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And I do think there's a really wonderful moment where he talks

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about his family later on in the episode.

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I like it.

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And I do think when they do the sort of things they do in this in

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other episodes when then you just have a quirky bit with Dr

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Flocks.

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It usually works out really well.

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It's usually the best scene in the episode.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, maybe this was just a bit too much.

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Not too much, too much of that, just too, like, you know, a scene

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in an episode is great.

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A whole episode of catching bats with flocks.

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You see, I actually quite like the catching bats thing because

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they're such fat, useless, middle-aged wife.

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And like that's the point, you know, like they blunder around the

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place being utterly hopeless.

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And so...

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I know.

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It just goes...

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It just picks it out of the air.

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She doesn't even catch him.

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She sort of picks it out of the air.

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It's awesome And I actually...

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That is very strange because that's the moment where flocks choose

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to go, you're sexually frustrated, Captain.

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He's going around the room with his fucking net.

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Oh, good.

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Well, that's that's another example of what Tim Russ was talking

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about.

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We mentioned in last week's episode where you're doing some Star

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Trek business and then you're talking about some personal thing

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and then you, you know, you go back and forth between them.

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Only this time it's catching an escaped bat.

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I am, uh, as ever, obsessed with the background players in Star

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Trek.

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And I have to say, at the back of the bridge set there, a woman

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was doing some particularly detailed work on the wall.

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Okay, sir.

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She was only in here for about 5 seconds, but yeah.

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She got her dinner that day anyway.

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Oh, here we go.

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Oh, fuck.

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And yeah, he's such a decade.

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I know.

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So, so they've weed.

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Why does he not...

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Why does, sorry, why does he not acknowledge that he has made a

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mistake?

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Because he's an, he's an asshole.

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That's the point.

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That's the absolute point that he's an absolute asshole.

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Like, it's the equivalent of him bringing his dog into my home

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when I haven't asked him to bring his dog into the wall.

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He stuck my sofa.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then him getting angry going, wow, I'm sorry.

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This line is great.

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There are some things more important than plasma injectors and she

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says, are you referring to your pride?

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And that's why I think that this episode is consciously about

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that.

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And if any line didn't deserve a you fucking idiot at the end of

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it.

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You know, like that line. absolutely deserves it.

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She's doing the you fucking idiot with her face.

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Oh, here we go.

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Watching water polo, throwing his ball.

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And his Dell monitor.

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He's all American Captain Archer, isn't he?

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But he's also, this is just him being a frustrated dickhead as

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well, isn't it?

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how perfect his bed is made as well.

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Look at that.

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He's got a yeoman.

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I don't think he has got a yeoman, you know.

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They would work for him.

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He's such a dickhead.

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Like, why doesn't the dog sleep on his bed?

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What an asshole.

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And sleeps over there.

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Do you know, in that YouTube video, that bit where she said about

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his ego.

477
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Yeah.

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Because his ego is bright.

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Pride.

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It cuts to a close-up on Archer and she started playing like, you

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got served.

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It's really funny.

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It's really good.

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It's one of the best lines of the episode.

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Oh, this is where it all starts to go a bit wrong.

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Oh, just off to Sick Bay.

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So aren't just off to sick bay to sit with the dog to feel

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better.

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And then he goes all the way across the other side of the room and

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then pulls the curtain closed.

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What's the point?

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Well, that was great.

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It's just that he just, you know, like he shows absolutely no

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affection for the dog.

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I do love, like, because we love flocks, and he's very cuddly and

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sweet, but the absolute sort of contempt and disregard he has for

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the dog, and he calls it a bugle instead of a beagle, and that

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hilarious bit about the lemurs that he's talking about.

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Like he's talking about...

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I like this where Archer goes, oh, excuse me, are you, you know

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trained to work with dogs and then it lists all of his

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qualifications in veterinary medicine.

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I was like...

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But he talks about the denombulant lemur and he says some of them

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even have one head, which I think is...

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Yeah, see, that's the sort of quirk we get one scene in most

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episodes, you know?

508
00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:53.039
But, I mean, that's one of the things that he does is in this very

509
00:21:53.039 --> 00:21:57.240
gun version of Star Trek where it's basically on a submarine and

510
00:21:57.240 --> 00:21:58.259
everyone's super boring.

511
00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:02.579
He's the one who represents how silly and wonderfully ridiculous

512
00:22:02.579 --> 00:22:03.660
Star Trek can be.

513
00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:08.220
And and he plays it like deliberately well.

514
00:22:08.460 --> 00:22:10.619
He's charming, isn't he?

515
00:22:10.740 --> 00:22:11.700
So charming.

516
00:22:11.700 --> 00:22:14.759
And opinionated, as we've talked about before, yeah.

517
00:22:14.819 --> 00:22:17.940
Yeah, but he's got a thing to say about what went wrong with

518
00:22:17.940 --> 00:22:18.660
Enterprise.

519
00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:19.140
Yeah, yeah.

520
00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:24.059
In fact, the one quote, there was only one quote on memory alpha

521
00:22:24.059 --> 00:22:27.119
and that was from John Binningsley, who, I'm going to say this, and

522
00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:29.339
he's...

523
00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:30.119
He said he liked this one.

524
00:22:30.180 --> 00:22:30.539
Yeah.

525
00:22:30.539 --> 00:22:33.180
I don't know if he's a favourite. but he said he liked it.

526
00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:35.099
And there were other members of the cast, I think, who said that

527
00:22:35.099 --> 00:22:35.700
they liked it.

528
00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:37.259
I think that's the fake dog there.

529
00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:39.539
Oh my god, that's awful.

530
00:22:39.599 --> 00:22:41.519
I didn't even realise that when I watched it earlier.

531
00:22:41.579 --> 00:22:43.859
It really is. isn't it?

532
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:45.000
Oh, bless.

533
00:22:45.059 --> 00:22:46.920
Do you know what, right?

534
00:22:46.980 --> 00:22:48.839
The woman whose whose dogs it was.

535
00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:52.559
Apparently she was very upset the day that the dog was in the

536
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:54.539
water with the old drug in his head.

537
00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:58.140
Because he looked just like my dog. so bad.

538
00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:00.000
I'm there going, how are they doing that?

539
00:23:00.059 --> 00:23:03.000
Is there like a water around the outside?

540
00:23:03.059 --> 00:23:05.039
You know, sometimes they do the thing where they'll put, you know

541
00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:10.019
like 2 concentric kind of cylinders and put water between them, so

542
00:23:10.019 --> 00:23:11.519
it looks like the thing submerged.

543
00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.200
And then it's like clamped.

544
00:23:13.259 --> 00:23:15.960
I'm going, how's the dog tolerating being clamped there?

545
00:23:16.019 --> 00:23:16.680
That's awful.

546
00:23:16.859 --> 00:23:20.160
All I can say is this, yeah, is this bit in a minute coming up

547
00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:21.059
with his toenails?

548
00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:24.720
I can't think of a more repulsive moment and I just can't bare

549
00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:26.519
feet and toenails.

550
00:23:26.579 --> 00:23:30.180
So watching him cutting off his scabby toenails.

551
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:31.319
So great.

552
00:23:31.500 --> 00:23:34.200
The great thing about it, it's horrible.

553
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:36.240
But it's like the Klingon teeth device.

554
00:23:36.299 --> 00:23:38.099
Remember the teeth sharpening device?

555
00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:39.539
Is it Kleons who have it?

556
00:23:39.539 --> 00:23:41.039
and then Quiet tries it.

557
00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:44.640
You know, it's the same sort of device.

558
00:23:44.700 --> 00:23:46.019
Oh, the tooth shop.

559
00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:46.319
Yeah.

560
00:23:46.380 --> 00:23:47.519
Oh, look.

561
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.799
Oh, I know, they're really horrible, aren't they?

562
00:23:49.859 --> 00:23:50.519
They're claws.

563
00:23:50.819 --> 00:23:51.960
We're pulsive.

564
00:23:52.019 --> 00:23:53.339
But he's got all these little queries.

565
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:54.599
Face puffed up.

566
00:23:54.660 --> 00:23:55.799
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

567
00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:56.880
By all accounts, his tongue.

568
00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.660
Well, in that 1st episode, he does that big giant smile.

569
00:24:00.779 --> 00:24:03.960
And then when his wife comes on board, remembering cogenitor.

570
00:24:04.019 --> 00:24:05.220
Is it coach as well?

571
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:06.180
She does the big smile.

572
00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:08.160
Do you know what?

573
00:24:08.220 --> 00:24:09.599
One shot of the toenails was enough.

574
00:24:09.660 --> 00:24:10.619
We had four there.

575
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:13.799
One was enough.

576
00:24:13.859 --> 00:24:14.579
But you know what?

577
00:24:15.059 --> 00:24:18.180
I mean, how often going on about how unoriginal latter-day's night

578
00:24:18.180 --> 00:24:21.359
is trek is, but even this isn't a lot original because there's an

579
00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.319
episode of Voyager, where I can't remember why now, but Nudix has

580
00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:28.799
to end up spending the evening in Sick Bay with the doctor.

581
00:24:28.859 --> 00:24:30.059
Do you remember this?

582
00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:30.599
No.

583
00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.420
And it's this, but played up to 11.

584
00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:34.079
Right.

585
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:38.519
So when the doctor starts paying out for music, and even Philip

586
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:40.140
gets especially grumpy about that.

587
00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:46.440
And it's... almost as agonising as this.

588
00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:47.640
But you're right.

589
00:24:47.700 --> 00:24:49.799
It is played by, it's too bit a character.

590
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:50.759
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

591
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.240
Yeah, maybe not better actors, but certainly better characters.

592
00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:55.200
Do you know what?

593
00:24:55.259 --> 00:24:57.059
I just think Bourbon and Bragger must have been looking over the

594
00:24:57.059 --> 00:24:59.400
shoulder going, well, that worked really well.

595
00:24:59.460 --> 00:25:01.259
We'll try it with blocks and archer.

596
00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:03.720
Well, it just goes to show that they're spent, aren't they?

597
00:25:03.779 --> 00:25:04.740
They're kind of exhausted.

598
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.019
They've been now doing this for so long that they've got nothing

599
00:25:07.019 --> 00:25:07.319
left.

600
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.220
And yet they've only been doing this show for a season and a half

601
00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:14.940
and that's the problem. is you've got an exhaustive production

602
00:25:14.940 --> 00:25:17.339
team. new show.

603
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:17.940
Yeah.

604
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.900
Wow, I really am seeing that puppet now.

605
00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:23.160
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

606
00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:24.420
It's really bad, isn't it?

607
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.420
He's fast asleep.

608
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:29.039
He's never waken up that one.

609
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.000
There was an episode of one foot in the grave. don't know if you

610
00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:33.359
ever watched that.

611
00:25:33.420 --> 00:25:34.259
Have you ever seen that?

612
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:37.079
Yeah, yeah. where Victor thinks he's buying a dog.

613
00:25:37.140 --> 00:25:39.900
Well, actually what he's buying is a stuffed dog.

614
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:44.400
And Mrs. Warboys brings it around and he's like, he's there and he

615
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:47.339
runs off to the kitchen to get the dog food and he comes back with

616
00:25:47.339 --> 00:25:50.160
a bowl of dog food and she's standing there with his stuffed dog.

617
00:25:50.220 --> 00:25:55.440
And she goes, it's Mr. Burkett's dog, nippy, and he's like, nippy

618
00:25:55.500 --> 00:25:57.720
anyway, it looks just like that dog there.

619
00:25:57.779 --> 00:26:00.299
So have a look at this scene, right?

620
00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:06.000
It's, I don't know why to poll is running at 10 past midnight or

621
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:07.380
whatever, but there she is.

622
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:10.920
But in this scene, archery is such a prick.

623
00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:15.000
And part of the thing is, and like he's a lot older than her, I

624
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.839
think, in, you know, actor as, you know, he's older than her.

625
00:26:18.900 --> 00:26:22.259
She presents as younger than him, although she's probably what, you

626
00:26:22.259 --> 00:26:24.299
know, 50 or something if she's a Vulcan.

627
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:28.440
And, And he competes with her.

628
00:26:28.500 --> 00:26:34.559
So he keeps looking across, look, she turns her speed up and so he

629
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:39.119
immediately turns his speed up because he can't be...

630
00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:42.119
Oh, you think that's the reason why?

631
00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:46.619
Yeah, surely, like he just can't tolerate her beating him, and she

632
00:26:46.619 --> 00:26:51.420
just gives him the worst shade as she leaves because he's just

633
00:26:51.420 --> 00:26:53.160
turned this into a competition.

634
00:26:54.059 --> 00:26:55.680
What does she say?

635
00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.240
can't remember Oh, she just says, oh, I guess I just can't keep up

636
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.099
or compete with you or something.

637
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:03.599
Like it's...

638
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:06.119
I figured, you know, because they're leaning into this hole, he's

639
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:07.259
fancy, sir.

640
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:08.700
You know, he's got desires for it.

641
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:09.960
Oh, like so he's trying to look cool.

642
00:27:10.019 --> 00:27:12.299
Oh, it was like a power move.

643
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:15.059
Yeah, it was like, you know, but I also think it's just the usual

644
00:27:15.059 --> 00:27:17.880
thing of him being an asshole, you know, like he can't be outrun

645
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:18.420
by a woman.

646
00:27:18.420 --> 00:27:23.039
And, you know, she's being completely reasonable and he's being

647
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:26.099
the normal sort of petulant child he is in this episode.

648
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:29.519
That was the most hilarious part of Jama's review, was him saying

649
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:36.119
you know, why is this petulant asshole in charge of, you know, this

650
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:36.720
this is just watching.

651
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.240
And it's, you haven't been watching this show?

652
00:27:39.299 --> 00:27:40.319
Have you not been watching?

653
00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:45.420
But this is like, you know, I'm wondering if somewhere in the

654
00:27:45.420 --> 00:27:48.359
middle of season one that, you know, Berman and Bragger were

655
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:53.039
seeing the Russia is coming in and in horror and going, you know

656
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.619
what is this monster we've created at the heart of this series?

657
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:59.099
And then obviously, you know, maybe this was the chance to, you

658
00:27:59.099 --> 00:28:00.960
know, acknowledge that and backtrack.

659
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:05.640
Or just to hang a hat on it, hang a lantern on it, you know.

660
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.640
But this is sort of the beginning of series too.

661
00:28:08.700 --> 00:28:10.619
So it's a good time to do this, you know, all right, fine.

662
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:11.880
Yeah, yeah.

663
00:28:11.940 --> 00:28:13.140
Let's turn this around.

664
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:17.339
Well, I mean, I was surprised in stigma, for instance, that he was

665
00:28:17.339 --> 00:28:19.440
actually quite nice and supportive at times.

666
00:28:19.500 --> 00:28:22.200
Like he wasn't just a petulant asshole in that.

667
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:25.200
I think they get there in the season before.

668
00:28:25.259 --> 00:28:27.960
You know, obviously you've seen season 3 and I know you've got big

669
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:29.700
issues with how of a Hazel 3.

670
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:34.019
Um, and, you know, he's under experience circumstances, and there

671
00:28:34.019 --> 00:28:35.940
are sort of political things going on there as well.

672
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.460
But in four, what's the difference in four?

673
00:28:39.420 --> 00:28:42.660
He's nice. and Bragger have left the show.

674
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:43.920
Yes, okay.

675
00:28:43.980 --> 00:28:46.799
Suddenly he's been written very sensitively.

676
00:28:46.859 --> 00:28:47.759
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

677
00:28:48.180 --> 00:28:51.420
Yeah, it just seems Spacular response to it.

678
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:52.319
He responds to it.

679
00:28:52.380 --> 00:28:53.519
There's a couple of really great episodes.

680
00:28:53.579 --> 00:28:56.099
It's just such a waste, isn't it?

681
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:59.640
Like you get someone as charming as Bacular on the show and then

682
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.640
you just make him be so obnoxious all the time.

683
00:29:02.940 --> 00:29:06.720
What's marvellous is, I think you're right, because Hoshi and Tapo

684
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:10.500
and everybody else is sort of looking at each other like, oh, what

685
00:29:10.500 --> 00:29:11.220
is he doing now?

686
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:12.599
That's real.

687
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:14.339
They always kind of an asshole.

688
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:15.240
That's right.

689
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.880
Oh, but we're lumbered with him.

690
00:29:17.940 --> 00:29:18.420
So, you know.

691
00:29:18.900 --> 00:29:20.640
Unless.

692
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:22.980
Oh, is this a bit where he writes the swear words down on the

693
00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:23.220
pad?

694
00:29:23.339 --> 00:29:27.119
He's like, is this an appropriate response to the protestors?

695
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:28.440
I was like, fuck you or something like that.

696
00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:29.220
I don't know.

697
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:30.599
Well, that was the other thing too.

698
00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:34.559
Like when he says, oh, if, if, you know, if they don't accept that

699
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.160
apology, I'll go down there and water the plants myself, and you

700
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.140
kind of say, like, are we that coy?

701
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.759
Can we not just say piss on it?

702
00:29:41.819 --> 00:29:45.240
Like, I know it's American television, but it is kind of a bit

703
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:45.960
pathetic.

704
00:29:46.019 --> 00:29:49.680
Oh, look, he's got into an athletic shock, but he's lying there

705
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:53.460
unmoving because he's just a puppet.

706
00:29:54.299 --> 00:29:58.500
I said, no, no, you know, you know that story about Marco Lehmer

707
00:29:58.500 --> 00:30:01.440
holding the baby in Covenant, and it's that animatronic baby, and

708
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:06.299
then all the wiring went crazy, and the baby's like going, imagine

709
00:30:06.299 --> 00:30:07.559
if they did that with the dog.

710
00:30:07.619 --> 00:30:09.240
It would be terrible, wouldn't it?

711
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.299
Apparently there's rushes of that, you know.

712
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:13.259
I'd love to see that.

713
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:13.859
Oh my god.

714
00:30:17.220 --> 00:30:19.019
So bad.

715
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.200
So we're having a crisis with a dog.

716
00:30:22.259 --> 00:30:27.059
I do like how his display looks like the displays in the

717
00:30:27.059 --> 00:30:31.440
Enterprise in the original series, his little health metres

718
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:31.740
thing.

719
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:32.819
That's kind of cute.

720
00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:36.240
I'd like it to be at those things, you know, where you stop

721
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:36.900
kicking the wall.

722
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.220
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

723
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.920
When they do the exercises, I just have the dog upside down doing

724
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:41.160
that.

725
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.440
Kind of quirky.

726
00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:46.319
Can I talk to you, please, about Starfleet?

727
00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:47.880
have forgot Starfleet yet?

728
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.180
No, because it's just one of the sheep.

729
00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:52.440
You need more than one sheep.

730
00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:52.740
Okay.

731
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:58.500
About the diplomatic program or education that Archer must have

732
00:30:58.500 --> 00:31:00.539
had before coming out into space.

733
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.940
Because I'm not certain, you know, he completed that course.

734
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.440
No, no.

735
00:31:04.500 --> 00:31:10.200
Well, I mean, he, he is, he's just annoyed at them.

736
00:31:10.259 --> 00:31:12.480
You know, it's all their fault.

737
00:31:12.539 --> 00:31:13.559
Look at him, look at him.

738
00:31:13.619 --> 00:31:14.099
Look at him.

739
00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:15.420
They should be apologising.

740
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:17.160
He really is just such a prick.

741
00:31:17.220 --> 00:31:20.220
Oh, things I care more about the dogs in the ship.

742
00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:21.240
Well, you do.

743
00:31:24.299 --> 00:31:25.259
Now there's this.

744
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.440
This really awful subplot, which fortunately doesn't go anywhere

745
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:31.920
in the long term because we end up pairing her off with Tripp as

746
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.380
the 2 most attractive famous of the cast.

747
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.460
Well, I was going to ask you about that because I don't remember

748
00:31:38.460 --> 00:31:42.539
this. occurring a lot, this archer to poll.

749
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:47.220
No. possible romance. like I did, you know, that it's horrible.

750
00:31:47.339 --> 00:31:49.259
Their relationship in one is pretty horrible.

751
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:53.220
Like he's appalling to her on a regular occasion and then she's

752
00:31:53.220 --> 00:31:56.880
off at the side looking a bit put out and thinking what you

753
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:58.140
fucking want to make us.

754
00:31:58.200 --> 00:31:59.279
Yeah, that's right.

755
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.200
And then at the end of this season, there's an episode just before

756
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.140
the, I think it's the penultimate episode where she reaches her

757
00:32:07.140 --> 00:32:09.119
pomphar and heads around the ship.

758
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:10.680
And honestly, it's done like a horror movie.

759
00:32:10.740 --> 00:32:13.440
She's going around the ship, but it's all bizarre angles and scary

760
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.960
lighting and she's trying to fuck everybody on the ship.

761
00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:20.460
And then in 3 they go, right, Ashley, let's give her a mature

762
00:32:20.460 --> 00:32:20.880
relationship.

763
00:32:20.940 --> 00:32:22.140
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

764
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.799
We can't just, we can't make her just be, you know, a sex object

765
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:26.400
anymore.

766
00:32:26.460 --> 00:32:28.559
Let's do something a bit more interesting with that.

767
00:32:28.619 --> 00:32:32.460
And bravo for taking 2 seasons to get there. right.

768
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.900
Well, they managed to, I mean, you know, 7 is sexy and she's

769
00:32:36.900 --> 00:32:42.000
clearly on screen. to, you know, in that sort of tight leotard

770
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:42.720
thing to...

771
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.700
Are you paired up with Robert Beltran?

772
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:45.539
What are you talking about?

773
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.359
Yeah, but not until the very end.

774
00:32:48.420 --> 00:32:49.799
My God.

775
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:51.900
Oh, this is a dream, the crotessens.

776
00:32:52.740 --> 00:32:55.440
So they're pretty high on the Beaumont scale.

777
00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:56.759
They have appeared on the show before.

778
00:32:56.819 --> 00:33:01.680
They're in a season one episode called Voxola, which I know

779
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:02.460
nothing else about.

780
00:33:02.579 --> 00:33:03.779
No, not really.

781
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.480
They wake up covered in webs or something.

782
00:33:06.539 --> 00:33:09.180
I can't remember, but...

783
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:12.299
These are pretty high scale, aren't they?

784
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.460
They're about a 9.987.

785
00:33:14.700 --> 00:33:18.119
I'd say this is as close to the Beaumont as we've ever got.

786
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:19.740
Yeah, they're pretty...

787
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.299
I mean, it's not low effort because there's some makeup in there

788
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:26.880
not going in there, there's beans, dreadlock beans.

789
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:28.559
Yeah, there's all sorts going on.

790
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:31.559
But, um, oh, damn, mate.

791
00:33:31.619 --> 00:33:33.299
Here we go. a bit tedious.

792
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.980
I mean, I do like the effect of the bat.

793
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.579
And you know that sort of running joke that Blocks has got all

794
00:33:41.579 --> 00:33:42.720
these weird creatures, right?

795
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.579
Yeah, I know that's really fun.

796
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.099
But you don't see enough of them and it's kind of a nice chance to

797
00:33:47.099 --> 00:33:49.079
do it given that there's not much else going on.

798
00:33:49.140 --> 00:33:54.059
And this literally is 2 sort of middle-aged white guys being just

799
00:33:54.059 --> 00:33:55.799
absolutely fucking useless.

800
00:33:55.859 --> 00:33:57.420
It's so.

801
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.819
I think 2 blokes going after a spider like this, you know?

802
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:03.900
Look at him crawling about. like origami hawk that he's made and

803
00:34:03.900 --> 00:34:05.940
he's making the noise and everything.

804
00:34:06.539 --> 00:34:09.000
He's such an idiot.

805
00:34:09.059 --> 00:34:12.599
And then, oh, she literally is just like, oh, you just do this.

806
00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:16.260
He's pulling a giant face and everything.

807
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:17.099
He's really funny.

808
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:18.300
I, you know.

809
00:34:18.539 --> 00:34:20.219
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

810
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.639
No, he even says he'd been practising the noise and he does it a

811
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:24.480
bit afterwards.

812
00:34:24.539 --> 00:34:26.039
He's disappointed it doesn't work.

813
00:34:26.099 --> 00:34:29.880
Oh, I think Billingsley said he really enjoyed having all this

814
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:30.599
time with Bacula.

815
00:34:30.659 --> 00:34:33.659
Yeah, because they didn't usually get a lot of screen time

816
00:34:33.659 --> 00:34:34.019
together.

817
00:34:34.139 --> 00:34:36.900
Oh, and he's horrible to him often on the screen too.

818
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.460
It's not terrible CGI that bad.

819
00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:39.719
I think the bat's pretty good.

820
00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:40.920
Why no?

821
00:34:40.980 --> 00:34:43.139
They should stick to bats and stop doing people.

822
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.440
That's stupid big.

823
00:34:47.460 --> 00:34:50.940
Oh, shit, look, it literally looks like he's on like a military

824
00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:51.300
mission.

825
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.039
Yeah, yeah, he's going around with that net.

826
00:34:53.099 --> 00:34:55.199
He doesn't know any other weapons.

827
00:34:55.260 --> 00:34:56.039
Oh, what an idiot.

828
00:34:56.099 --> 00:35:00.719
Like, he looked like he was trying to knock that oil into flocks.

829
00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:05.880
I do quite like to see Fox's reaction when Archer asks him if it's

830
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.539
poisonous and he just dips his finger in it and then licks it off

831
00:35:09.539 --> 00:35:09.840
his finger.

832
00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:11.519
Oh, yeah, he goes, I'll be all right.

833
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:19.559
It's it's balloons leaves ability to never be fake.

834
00:35:19.619 --> 00:35:21.300
Yeah, yeah, by anything, you know?

835
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.639
And I think that's why when there's an episode about his character

836
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:26.039
when he is, that's why that impacts.

837
00:35:26.099 --> 00:35:29.820
Because we're so used to it going, well, I'm polygamous, you know

838
00:35:29.820 --> 00:35:31.019
fuck my wife, if you want to.

839
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.840
It's got a sort of loose 70 sort of thing.

840
00:35:33.900 --> 00:35:37.739
Like he's wearing pyjamas around the around Sick Bay always. you

841
00:35:37.739 --> 00:35:38.219
know what I mean?

842
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:39.840
He's got the sort of long hair and stuff.

843
00:35:39.900 --> 00:35:42.300
Did you know that wonderful line?

844
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.900
He says at the end of this where he goes, Oh, I even miss the co

845
00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:46.380
husbands a little bit.

846
00:35:46.500 --> 00:35:48.239
I think that's really gorgeous.

847
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.699
Yeah, he starts...

848
00:35:52.019 --> 00:35:56.639
Blocks goes, no, Archie goes, isn't it complicated or polygamy?

849
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.019
and he goes, well, yeah, that's why we do it.

850
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.239
Life can be a bit boring sometimes in a monogamous relationship.

851
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.380
And I speak from experience.

852
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:08.519
Also, not now.

853
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.119
I'd better shut off.

854
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.079
Are they still catching this bag?

855
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:17.760
Always talking about polygamy.

856
00:36:18.179 --> 00:36:21.000
No, no, no, they're not talking about polygamy.

857
00:36:21.059 --> 00:36:24.300
They're talking about Archer not having had sex for a while.

858
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.099
He's about to ask him straight out.

859
00:36:26.340 --> 00:36:28.860
Is he or has he already asked?

860
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:30.179
When did you last kind of get off?

861
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.039
I went, God, here we go.

862
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:37.559
This is like Troy psychobabble, isn't it?

863
00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:41.340
It's like, when you believe that you're sexual conduct, but

864
00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:44.400
towards another crew member is inappropriate, you know?

865
00:36:44.460 --> 00:36:45.480
Jesus.

866
00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:50.159
Yeah, yeah, but it's that thing, it's flux, just, like, flux just

867
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.559
says you're getting unreasonably angry all the time and you're

868
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:53.639
being a prig.

869
00:36:53.699 --> 00:36:55.860
Oh, okay.

870
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:57.239
Yeah, oh shit, come on.

871
00:36:57.659 --> 00:36:59.280
Watch out.

872
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.539
She was in her hands like that, isn't it?

873
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:07.380
It's lovely.

874
00:37:07.619 --> 00:37:10.800
Okay, that wasn't as agonising as our own.

875
00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:12.119
No, I think that's pretty good, though.

876
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.519
Only, only because I'm watching it.

877
00:37:14.579 --> 00:37:15.900
Yeah, I think it's fun.

878
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.179
I would say...

879
00:37:21.179 --> 00:37:22.860
Oh, look at, look, do you know what?

880
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:26.699
Look, he's got sort of walking out there, a bit of swagger, utter

881
00:37:26.699 --> 00:37:29.880
sarcasm, utter contempt, a smirk on his phone.

882
00:37:29.940 --> 00:37:31.079
Could he be less likeable?

883
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:33.000
Yeah, yeah, no, he's obnoxious.

884
00:37:36.059 --> 00:37:38.219
Was that a deliberate choice?

885
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:39.000
I don't know.

886
00:37:39.059 --> 00:37:39.599
I don't know.

887
00:37:39.659 --> 00:37:41.460
I wish you'd seen more Hoshi.

888
00:37:41.579 --> 00:37:43.500
She's hardly been in the episodes.

889
00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:45.719
I mean, who's absent from this episode?

890
00:37:45.780 --> 00:37:48.059
There's no Malcolm and there's no Travis in this episode.

891
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:48.900
Am I right?

892
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.340
I don't see them at all, no.

893
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:51.239
And this is hang time.

894
00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:52.860
This is perfect time.

895
00:37:53.219 --> 00:37:55.260
Oh, no, here we go.

896
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.679
Here we go. bizarre dream sequence.

897
00:37:58.739 --> 00:37:59.579
It's not good.

898
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:01.559
And it's because they don't go into it enough.

899
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.340
Like they're not quite, it's not quite weird enough.

900
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.880
Well, in another interior grave size.

901
00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:11.639
Yeah, but it's a dream sequence, so it does get a pass, I think.

902
00:38:11.699 --> 00:38:14.159
And they've thrown in some rain as well.

903
00:38:14.219 --> 00:38:20.039
I also think that an act of, it's absolute genius to put flocks in

904
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:23.340
a, in the vicar's outfit in the vicar's role.

905
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.199
Because he does have that sort of, you know, that demeanour.

906
00:38:28.260 --> 00:38:29.639
And now we get our...

907
00:38:29.699 --> 00:38:32.340
Don't you tell me, they are not trying to make enterprise, a bit

908
00:38:32.340 --> 00:38:32.820
sexier.

909
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:34.679
Oh, no, I mean, look at this.

910
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.079
Nathan, they're holding hands, for goodness sakes.

911
00:38:37.139 --> 00:38:41.039
But we got this explicit reference to the 3 Musketeers, didn't

912
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:41.219
we?

913
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:45.780
Like Porthos's guiding principle was all for one and one for all

914
00:38:45.780 --> 00:38:49.260
you know, I think that that's happening and there's a brilliant 3

915
00:38:49.260 --> 00:38:52.440
Musketeers, 4 Musketeers reference a little bit later on.

916
00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:54.840
So we're redoing this scene.

917
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:55.800
Oh my God.

918
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:56.940
Would you see Archer's underwear there?

919
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.880
That was filling out, isn't it?

920
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.559
Honestly.

921
00:39:01.619 --> 00:39:03.119
Do you know what though, right?

922
00:39:03.179 --> 00:39:04.199
sort of um...

923
00:39:04.380 --> 00:39:07.440
It just looks like they're covering each other in loop.

924
00:39:07.500 --> 00:39:11.340
Yeah, very strange. stupid and it was, it's not very sexy though

925
00:39:11.340 --> 00:39:11.639
is it?

926
00:39:11.699 --> 00:39:14.099
I mean, it was supposed to be, though. in that 1st episode where

927
00:39:14.099 --> 00:39:16.739
they're in the decon chamber, and it's him and Tao in that, I

928
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:16.860
think.

929
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:17.579
Yeah, yeah.

930
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:20.400
And they're standing there in silence, you know, silhouetted

931
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:24.960
glistening stuff all over each other It's horrible It's just, it's

932
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.119
so sort of shit and exploitative.

933
00:39:27.179 --> 00:39:28.260
It's an embarrassment.

934
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.719
At least they're making fun of it by having a dog in it this

935
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:30.900
time.

936
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.380
I mean, she is very womanly, isn't she?

937
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:35.760
Look at her fabulous hips.

938
00:39:35.820 --> 00:39:36.179
Yeah.

939
00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:39.480
Jolene Blaylock.

940
00:39:39.539 --> 00:39:40.380
Laylock.

941
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.360
I can actually get a name from Baylock.

942
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:44.219
I don't know.

943
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:45.360
You're right.

944
00:39:45.420 --> 00:39:48.059
They definitely went down the 7 of 9 room with her, didn't they?

945
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:50.760
It's another. have another hot alien, babe.

946
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:51.780
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

947
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.000
They're contemptuous of everyone.

948
00:39:54.059 --> 00:39:56.219
What am I watching?

949
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.380
She is rubbing it into his hairy chest now.

950
00:39:58.440 --> 00:39:59.460
Yeah, yuck.

951
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:00.239
Stop it.

952
00:40:00.300 --> 00:40:01.139
Oh, God.

953
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.780
Do you remember when Battle Star Galactica did sex?

954
00:40:03.900 --> 00:40:06.360
You know, it was just 2 people ripping their clothes off and going

955
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:06.719
out here.

956
00:40:06.780 --> 00:40:09.119
Yeah, but this can't do that because it's bay or something like

957
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:09.239
that.

958
00:40:09.300 --> 00:40:10.139
Ridiculous.

959
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:11.820
It's so bad.

960
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:15.599
But remember the showers, like the unisex showers when no one

961
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:16.320
really gives a shit?

962
00:40:16.380 --> 00:40:17.639
No, that's really good.

963
00:40:17.699 --> 00:40:18.179
Yeah.

964
00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:21.599
But like, it's having the reverse effect of what they're trying to

965
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:23.159
achieve. turning me off.

966
00:40:23.219 --> 00:40:28.199
No, no, because it's the usual sophomoric kind of approach to sex

967
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:33.719
like the sniggering, absurd, childish kind of response to it.

968
00:40:33.780 --> 00:40:37.679
And the only grown up when it comes to sexuality in the show is, is

969
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:39.719
Dr. Fox, you know?

970
00:40:39.780 --> 00:40:43.260
Even there, you can't have a conversation where they're just

971
00:40:43.260 --> 00:40:46.139
talking about, you know, repressed sexual desire.

972
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.239
They got to be chasing a space bat at the same time.

973
00:40:48.300 --> 00:40:51.119
That's the best thing about that scene, right?

974
00:40:52.139 --> 00:40:53.639
So this.

975
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.099
Look at this. was never going to be up to much, was it?

976
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.400
So now he's doing the backstory about how he got Porthos, right?

977
00:40:59.460 --> 00:41:00.960
And it's an ex-girlfriend.

978
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.340
And when the dog got pregnant, Scott was the 1st one she called

979
00:41:05.340 --> 00:41:07.920
and I thought she was going to like call to accuse him.

980
00:41:07.980 --> 00:41:09.360
You know, is she?

981
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:10.860
Oh, God.

982
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:13.260
I was like, it was Scott.

983
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.420
I'm getting him on the phone or Archer.

984
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.039
I'm getting him on the phone immediately.

985
00:41:17.099 --> 00:41:20.820
That was the 1st place I went, but obviously, that's not where the

986
00:41:20.820 --> 00:41:21.420
show went with it.

987
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:22.199
Do you know what?

988
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.840
Yeah, I'm not surprised, but this episode.

989
00:41:24.900 --> 00:41:27.239
Honestly, some of the some of the inferences they're making.

990
00:41:27.300 --> 00:41:28.500
It's so pathetic.

991
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:29.579
But I do quite like that.

992
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:34.079
That's him talking about his, you know, how he got Porthos.

993
00:41:34.139 --> 00:41:34.679
And then this.

994
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:36.599
What about the lead?

995
00:41:36.659 --> 00:41:38.699
It's like every now and again.

996
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.079
Oh, no, I like that.

997
00:41:40.139 --> 00:41:42.119
That's breaking the format isn't it?

998
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.420
Okay, thinking obviously one of those procedurals, you know, when

999
00:41:45.420 --> 00:41:49.199
they're investigating through the night. you know, he's like, 115.

1000
00:41:49.380 --> 00:41:52.380
But I mean, I think that's, I think that's a deliberate thing.

1001
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.000
This is them going off format.

1002
00:41:54.059 --> 00:41:56.039
It's just set overnight.

1003
00:41:56.099 --> 00:41:57.659
It's not set during an adventure.

1004
00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:59.219
It's set over a night.

1005
00:41:59.280 --> 00:41:59.639
I like that.

1006
00:42:01.139 --> 00:42:03.840
Oh, sorry.

1007
00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:04.440
Yes.

1008
00:42:04.500 --> 00:42:05.519
He said, sorry.

1009
00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:08.159
Sorry, I'm a little on edge.

1010
00:42:08.219 --> 00:42:08.579
Yeah.

1011
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:09.119
Well, yeah.

1012
00:42:09.179 --> 00:42:10.139
Oh, no.

1013
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:12.000
And then they follow up with the breast line.

1014
00:42:12.059 --> 00:42:14.340
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's an embarrassment.

1015
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.099
Fuck, and that is the problem.

1016
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.199
It's these people writing sexual bloody politics where someone

1017
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.079
could say, I'm not at my breast right now, you know.

1018
00:42:25.139 --> 00:42:26.460
I mean, that's 70s.

1019
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:27.480
That's how you're being served.

1020
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:28.860
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1021
00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:29.400
Yeah.

1022
00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:38.940
Wait until the lips lisp. list comes in It's only funny because

1023
00:42:38.940 --> 00:42:40.019
we're taking the piss out of it.

1024
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.900
No, no, I don't think that's funny at all.

1025
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:43.980
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1026
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:44.400
Yeah.

1027
00:42:44.460 --> 00:42:48.059
Although I quite like her absolute failure to react.

1028
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:54.119
And then she kind of just gives it the most minute indication that

1029
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:55.619
she thinks he's a fucking idiot.

1030
00:42:55.739 --> 00:42:59.519
I could be reading that into her performance, but...

1031
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:00.480
I just imagine, right?

1032
00:43:00.539 --> 00:43:03.300
goes back to her quarters every single night, right?

1033
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:09.719
and just slump into a chair. and go, oh, you know, another day, you

1034
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:10.980
fucking idiot people.

1035
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.559
And you know, come series 3 or four, when she starts being in a

1036
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:17.579
relationship and friendship.

1037
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:18.960
Well, she's just acclimatised.

1038
00:43:19.019 --> 00:43:20.099
Stockholm syndrome, isn't it?

1039
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:21.960
you've been around these people enough, you adapt.

1040
00:43:22.019 --> 00:43:26.579
So this, so the next thing here, we're going to transplant the

1041
00:43:26.579 --> 00:43:32.159
pituitary gland of a calorician, I don't know, some kind of

1042
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:39.300
chameleon into Porthos, and this, like the hilarious thing.

1043
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:45.659
The hilarious thing is that is the moment where Archer asks him if

1044
00:43:45.659 --> 00:43:47.099
there'll be any side effects.

1045
00:43:47.099 --> 00:43:52.860
And he says, oh, yes, when he's nervous, he'll tend to merge into

1046
00:43:52.860 --> 00:43:54.900
the background, you won't be able to see him.

1047
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.119
And Archer goes, what?

1048
00:43:57.179 --> 00:44:01.619
And because the fun thing about that joke is, of course, he could

1049
00:44:01.619 --> 00:44:04.679
be telling the truth because this is Star Trek and Star Trek is

1050
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:05.880
frequently stupid.

1051
00:44:05.940 --> 00:44:09.659
Like, it's just possible that he's actually telling the truth and

1052
00:44:09.659 --> 00:44:10.739
the dog will go invisible.

1053
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.940
And then he just says, no, you know, and he doesn't, he doesn't.

1054
00:44:14.940 --> 00:44:19.139
No, I'm, I'm just joking, you know, but again, it's billing till

1055
00:44:19.139 --> 00:44:20.639
his delivery is so funny.

1056
00:44:20.699 --> 00:44:22.139
It's so funny.

1057
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:23.699
I'm going, oh, how now?

1058
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:26.400
Now we're being racist to the nobulance now.

1059
00:44:27.659 --> 00:44:33.179
He's such a prick Well, yeah, no, because he says it, doesn't he?

1060
00:44:33.300 --> 00:44:34.500
when he apologises to Flocks.

1061
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.079
He says, no, no, you said this about my entire race.

1062
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:41.340
So I trust to apologise to all of them, you know, effectively.

1063
00:44:41.460 --> 00:44:43.980
So I'm calling Alfie, though.

1064
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:44.519
You're right.

1065
00:44:44.579 --> 00:44:47.340
I don't think that's a great joke, but I think the delivery is

1066
00:44:47.340 --> 00:44:47.639
good.

1067
00:44:47.699 --> 00:44:49.380
Yeah, I think the delivery's good.

1068
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:53.099
But the reason it works at all as a joke is that it could possibly

1069
00:44:53.099 --> 00:44:57.659
be true because we don't know what the rules are here quite and we

1070
00:44:57.659 --> 00:44:59.579
know that Star Trek can be ridiculous.

1071
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:05.400
Are we saying then that despite the inconsistency of the creative

1072
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:09.119
team behind this show, the actors are salvaging a lot of this?

1073
00:45:09.179 --> 00:45:13.380
Well, I think I think certainly Billingsley's salvaging a great

1074
00:45:13.380 --> 00:45:14.099
deal of this.

1075
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:16.980
And so is um Jollene Blaylock too.

1076
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.860
I mean, that is a weird visual, seeing the dog in the water. with

1077
00:45:22.860 --> 00:45:23.699
the thing coming out of his head.

1078
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:25.380
But that's what I was about to say.

1079
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.900
Like, there's weird and then there's just uncomfortably... not fun

1080
00:45:30.900 --> 00:45:31.320
to watch.

1081
00:45:31.380 --> 00:45:32.760
Like he's classic.

1082
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:34.199
What's her face?

1083
00:45:34.260 --> 00:45:36.239
She thinks that's her dog in there, you know?

1084
00:45:36.300 --> 00:45:37.559
She's very upset.

1085
00:45:37.619 --> 00:45:38.340
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1086
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:45.719
But this sequence where Flux talks about his extended family, the

1087
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.019
polygamy on Denobula, and I thought it was really well played

1088
00:45:49.019 --> 00:45:50.940
because R is actually listening to him.

1089
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:51.960
He's learning about him.

1090
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:56.579
And there's that weird detail which they don't need to include, and

1091
00:45:56.579 --> 00:46:01.380
I don't know why they included, where he has 2 sons that he

1092
00:46:01.380 --> 00:46:06.059
doesn't speak to and that he has a fractious relationship with

1093
00:46:06.059 --> 00:46:07.320
them and he...

1094
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.059
Don't know if that was supposed to be followed up.

1095
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:09.539
It isn't.

1096
00:46:09.659 --> 00:46:13.920
But, but, and then he just says... but I miss them all.

1097
00:46:13.980 --> 00:46:17.280
And I just thought that is so, that's beautiful.

1098
00:46:17.340 --> 00:46:18.179
Yeah, here it is.

1099
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.300
He'll have the ability to merge into the background when he's

1100
00:46:21.300 --> 00:46:21.900
frightened.

1101
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:22.980
You're kidding.

1102
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:24.059
And he goes, yep.

1103
00:46:26.820 --> 00:46:28.199
So good.

1104
00:46:28.619 --> 00:46:31.980
But yeah, I think that's a properly touching thing.

1105
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.000
I think Billingsley sells all of weirdness as the most natural

1106
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:37.320
thing ever.

1107
00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:39.420
You have to be in Star Trek, I think.

1108
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:42.119
Um, but then he sells the emotion as well.

1109
00:46:42.179 --> 00:46:42.840
Yeah.

1110
00:46:42.900 --> 00:46:43.559
Yeah.

1111
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:45.059
No, I think this is a lovely thing.

1112
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.420
Essentially, what we're saying is Winnie more Billingsley in every

1113
00:46:48.420 --> 00:46:49.800
episode. absolutely.

1114
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:56.820
And it is that thing too, where these guys are so sort of weirded

1115
00:46:56.820 --> 00:47:00.539
out by polygamy and it's kind of like, for God's sake, just grow

1116
00:47:00.539 --> 00:47:00.840
up.

1117
00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:02.699
Yeah.

1118
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:07.139
But I will I'll give them the props for having a single character

1119
00:47:07.380 --> 00:47:12.539
that talks about it so blase, you know, like, they didn't even

1120
00:47:12.539 --> 00:47:13.019
have to do that.

1121
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:14.579
It's something.

1122
00:47:14.699 --> 00:47:15.719
Take something.

1123
00:47:15.780 --> 00:47:16.199
I agree.

1124
00:47:16.260 --> 00:47:21.000
I think it is something And making him different in a way that, you

1125
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.300
know, like he's not gay or something, like he's not a gay Klingon

1126
00:47:24.300 --> 00:47:25.679
or, you know, anything like that.

1127
00:47:25.739 --> 00:47:28.380
It is just an arrangement that's unusual.

1128
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:29.460
Oh, I'd love to see that.

1129
00:47:29.460 --> 00:47:30.420
A gay Klinger?

1130
00:47:31.260 --> 00:47:34.619
Orville, the Orville, for God's sake, there's a whole planet off

1131
00:47:34.619 --> 00:47:34.860
them.

1132
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.380
Oh, it's more...

1133
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.000
Oh, lovely.

1134
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.639
I know, bitch, like queen.

1135
00:47:41.699 --> 00:47:42.719
Now it's fabulous.

1136
00:47:42.780 --> 00:47:45.059
But look at look at him playing it.

1137
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:48.179
He's still, he's still kind of looking at the instruments and

1138
00:47:48.179 --> 00:47:52.679
looking at his monitors and all of that sort of thing, but he is

1139
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:54.000
delivering this.

1140
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:57.780
He's got that weird way of speaking too, where he speaks out of

1141
00:47:57.780 --> 00:47:59.099
one corner of his mouth.

1142
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:04.800
I don't know if that's Billingsley or if that's a flux thing, but

1143
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:06.000
Joe, I love.

1144
00:48:06.059 --> 00:48:07.860
He says about, yeah, of course I miss them.

1145
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:09.119
Yeah, you're asking me if I miss them.

1146
00:48:09.179 --> 00:48:09.599
Yeah, I do.

1147
00:48:09.659 --> 00:48:13.260
And there's nowhere I'd rather be there here.

1148
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:14.639
I love that sentiment.

1149
00:48:14.699 --> 00:48:16.260
I was like, thank God summer wants to be there.

1150
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:17.340
Yeah, that's right.

1151
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.340
I'm like, this asshole is talking to.

1152
00:48:22.380 --> 00:48:24.420
So is it this?

1153
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:28.800
When did he reach his, you know, epiphanies, revelation that, in

1154
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.840
fact, he is the problem.

1155
00:48:30.900 --> 00:48:32.880
Well, he's got to try something bad.

1156
00:48:32.940 --> 00:48:34.980
He's already the apology. is his 1st apology.

1157
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:36.599
There he is.

1158
00:48:36.659 --> 00:48:40.679
He's apologising because you accuse my entire race of being

1159
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.119
intense.

1160
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:46.260
But again, like he's off looking at a, he's not meeting his eye.

1161
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:49.320
He doesn't he's not sort of slamming him or anything.

1162
00:48:49.380 --> 00:48:52.440
He's just mentioning it while he looks at his instruments and

1163
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:52.800
stuff.

1164
00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:55.199
Like, he's really...

1165
00:48:55.260 --> 00:48:58.199
Honestly, no, we're going to Denobi, and you're going to make a

1166
00:48:58.199 --> 00:48:59.639
public speech to everyone.

1167
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.679
In alphabetical order.

1168
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.320
And badly, there was poll saying that you were incapable of

1169
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:08.400
apologising.

1170
00:49:08.460 --> 00:49:11.460
Like...

1171
00:49:11.460 --> 00:49:12.840
That's really good.

1172
00:49:12.900 --> 00:49:15.300
Very good CGI shop.

1173
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:15.719
Yeah.

1174
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.340
We've been a little bit unkind about CJ Island, but actually, it

1175
00:49:20.340 --> 00:49:22.380
didn't look at all sort of cartoony, is it?

1176
00:49:22.380 --> 00:49:24.780
It was a little bit cartoony, but the design was beautiful.

1177
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:25.800
It was a good thought.

1178
00:49:25.860 --> 00:49:26.639
Oh, yeah.

1179
00:49:27.539 --> 00:49:31.739
I think what's happened here is they pulled in these aliens, you

1180
00:49:31.739 --> 00:49:33.119
know, and said, right, you stand over there.

1181
00:49:33.179 --> 00:49:37.440
Right, Scott, go over there, chop a bit of that log off, and then

1182
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:38.579
just do something with it.

1183
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:42.539
Say, say some weird space language and do something with a log.

1184
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:44.039
They'll smile in the scene.

1185
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.079
I mean, what is this seen?

1186
00:49:46.139 --> 00:49:46.980
What is it?

1187
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:48.599
Like what's happening?

1188
00:49:48.659 --> 00:49:50.760
Like, is it funny?

1189
00:49:50.820 --> 00:49:52.800
Is it...

1190
00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:53.760
No, it's just weird.

1191
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:54.900
Yeah, yeah.

1192
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:56.460
Like, and weird is okay.

1193
00:49:56.519 --> 00:50:00.900
But, like, I, I was kind of hoping that he would fuck it up in

1194
00:50:00.900 --> 00:50:05.639
some spectacular way by doing something even ruder, you know, at

1195
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:10.500
the end, and like, he, you know, kick, kick his tongue, and then

1196
00:50:10.500 --> 00:50:11.519
they say, oh, fuck.

1197
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:15.960
It keeps cutting to the credessons, looking a bit appalled.

1198
00:50:16.019 --> 00:50:18.179
So I kept thinking, oh, no, this is all going wrong.

1199
00:50:18.300 --> 00:50:21.360
And then it cuts to to par when that lot going, oh, is he getting

1200
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:21.960
it right?

1201
00:50:22.019 --> 00:50:24.119
And then it's not till the end of the scene where you get the

1202
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:26.460
payoff and they're all smiling and you're like, okay, this

1203
00:50:26.460 --> 00:50:26.760
worked.

1204
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:28.920
It's really it's just...

1205
00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:33.480
I mean, it's done without dialogue, so we've got no clue what any

1206
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:33.960
of it means.

1207
00:50:34.019 --> 00:50:39.059
Actually, Hoshi just did that final shot with Hoshi just smiling a

1208
00:50:39.059 --> 00:50:42.719
little bit at him being humiliated because he's such a dick all

1209
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:43.079
the time.

1210
00:50:43.139 --> 00:50:45.659
Um, So here we go.

1211
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.639
He's a com very strange.

1212
00:50:47.699 --> 00:50:49.860
But he's him apologising again.

1213
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:56.039
And so even even just that thematic unity of the alien plot being

1214
00:50:56.039 --> 00:51:00.000
about apologising and then the actual character plot being about

1215
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.980
apologising to poll, to 1st to the doctor and then to poll, I

1216
00:51:04.980 --> 00:51:07.320
think that's surprising.

1217
00:51:09.059 --> 00:51:13.019
And he goes, I've been getting so much practice, apologising to

1218
00:51:13.019 --> 00:51:13.320
people.

1219
00:51:13.380 --> 00:51:14.579
Oh, may as well give you one as well.

1220
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.739
Well, see, that's the sexual tension again.

1221
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.039
I may as well give you one is what he meant to say.

1222
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.260
All right, well, you're coming in February.

1223
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.360
Oh, God.

1224
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:31.559
We need to stop.

1225
00:51:33.059 --> 00:51:37.260
Whenever people work in close callers, waters for extended periods

1226
00:51:37.260 --> 00:51:37.559
of time.

1227
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.559
Yep, they all want to have sex with each other. talking about

1228
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:41.699
their sexual chemistry here.

1229
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:42.420
Yeah, yep.

1230
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:42.960
Yeah.

1231
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.079
But she she rules it out.

1232
00:51:46.139 --> 00:51:48.780
I would feel very uncomfortable if someone came up to me at work

1233
00:51:48.780 --> 00:51:53.519
and started thinking a conversation about sexual chemistry.

1234
00:51:53.579 --> 00:51:55.260
Look at, look at, close it down.

1235
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.480
Then it's good. not in a position to allow ourselves to become

1236
00:51:57.480 --> 00:51:58.619
attract into one another.

1237
00:51:58.980 --> 00:52:02.699
She just, and she, yeah, she basically cuts him off by saying the

1238
00:52:02.699 --> 00:52:04.019
word hypothetically.

1239
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:06.300
That's right.

1240
00:52:06.300 --> 00:52:10.260
He looks so emasculated by that word.

1241
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:10.860
He really does.

1242
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:12.239
Oh wow.

1243
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.059
Guess I'm having a wank tonight, then.

1244
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.159
She turns ahead, but still looks at him as she walks off.

1245
00:52:20.579 --> 00:52:22.500
Oh my god.

1246
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.500
This has been surprisingly fun to talk about this one, you know?

1247
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:28.500
I just think it's quite entertaining.

1248
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:30.780
Like, it's, you know, it's not good.

1249
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:33.840
But there are good things in it.

1250
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:38.400
And certainly giving flocks a big role is an absolute win.

1251
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:42.000
Is he back to apologise again?

1252
00:52:42.059 --> 00:52:43.079
What's going on now?

1253
00:52:43.139 --> 00:52:44.820
Um, no, he's here.

1254
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.639
Yeah, well, no, he's thanking him for the dog for looking after

1255
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:48.179
the dog.

1256
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:54.059
And look, where is the joyful reunion of the dog?

1257
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.280
And I...

1258
00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:58.920
Which should be the combination of essentially...

1259
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:01.260
No, we just...

1260
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:05.099
So you, I just sort of assume that maybe Archer doesn't like

1261
00:53:05.099 --> 00:53:05.519
that.

1262
00:53:05.579 --> 00:53:08.639
Oh, look, he smiled for a 2nd at the fucking puppet.

1263
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:10.739
The dog the dog is lifeless.

1264
00:53:14.099 --> 00:53:16.139
Like, nothing.

1265
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:17.039
We get nothing back.

1266
00:53:17.099 --> 00:53:18.420
It's so bad.

1267
00:53:18.900 --> 00:53:20.519
Honestly.

1268
00:53:20.699 --> 00:53:23.579
Honestly, he's just asleep, not a puppet.

1269
00:53:23.699 --> 00:53:25.559
Oh, yeah, no, I think sure.

1270
00:53:25.619 --> 00:53:27.179
Is he moving?

1271
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:27.900
Yeah.

1272
00:53:27.900 --> 00:53:31.500
The dog is like, you get me out of this bloody box.

1273
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:33.059
Oh, look, he's got a Band-Aid on his head.

1274
00:53:34.139 --> 00:53:36.480
Oh, look, he jumped off.

1275
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:37.500
No.

1276
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.360
Yeah, yeah, he jumped up, but look at the dog's face.

1277
00:53:39.420 --> 00:53:43.500
No, he's not... looking off camera at his owner.

1278
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:46.139
He's absolutely not interested in Archer at all.

1279
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.880
Thick way's all yours. welcome back anytime.

1280
00:53:50.940 --> 00:53:52.079
No, let's not do this again.

1281
00:53:52.139 --> 00:53:53.880
Please, let's all do this again.

1282
00:53:53.940 --> 00:53:55.860
It's bloody.

1283
00:53:55.860 --> 00:53:57.179
He does the big smile.

1284
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:01.860
He does the big giant CG smile. for the welcome.

1285
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:05.280
Now, I am going to do what I are very often do, and that is a

1286
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:08.880
small comparison because there's an episode in series one called

1287
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:11.400
Doctor's Orders, I believe.

1288
00:54:11.460 --> 00:54:16.500
And the episode is structured around letters between flocks and

1289
00:54:16.500 --> 00:54:22.260
another doctor from another institute that he knows and concerns

1290
00:54:22.260 --> 00:54:26.519
concerns like an ethical dilemma that flux is going through and

1291
00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:29.400
him sort of ruminating on it after the fact.

1292
00:54:29.460 --> 00:54:31.739
So we're seeing the episode in flashback.

1293
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.199
And it's a fantastic piece of writing.

1294
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:36.000
And Billingsley is brilliant, isn't it?

1295
00:54:36.059 --> 00:54:39.719
Well, let me tell you, this is Billingsley's big episode in series

1296
00:54:39.719 --> 00:54:40.079
two.

1297
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:43.440
Well, I don't think we're going in the right direction.

1298
00:54:43.500 --> 00:54:46.860
She does get the opportunity to rescue a whole bunch of stuff, at

1299
00:54:46.860 --> 00:54:47.280
least.

1300
00:54:47.340 --> 00:54:50.519
But, I mean, the thing that struck me was just how

1301
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:54.960
straightforwardly this seemed to be about Archer being an asshole

1302
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:58.739
and having to having to apologise to everyone because he was such

1303
00:54:58.739 --> 00:54:59.219
an asshole.

1304
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.199
Well, that's the point, though.

1305
00:55:01.260 --> 00:55:02.159
That one is series one.

1306
00:55:02.219 --> 00:55:04.260
There is minimal archer in that episode.

1307
00:55:04.380 --> 00:55:06.599
So naturally, it's fantastic.

1308
00:55:06.659 --> 00:55:09.719
It's maximum Billingsley and minimal bacular.

1309
00:55:09.780 --> 00:55:13.440
We have to try and get a series four, even if it ends up being in

1310
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:18.179
the middle of a trilogy or something, just so that I can see a

1311
00:55:18.179 --> 00:55:21.539
more relaxed, more charming Jonathan Archer, I think.

1312
00:55:21.659 --> 00:55:25.679
I'd really like you to see home in series 4, which is like post

1313
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.380
just after the Zindiak, just after the switch front, when they

1314
00:55:28.380 --> 00:55:33.599
dash about with Nazis or something for 2 episodes. and put the

1315
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:34.260
timeline back.

1316
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.500
And then he's basically ruminating on the last 3 years.

1317
00:55:38.460 --> 00:55:41.940
And he goes climbing climbing up the rocks with an X squeeze and

1318
00:55:41.940 --> 00:55:45.659
it's it's quite thoughtful and he's just really gentle and lovely

1319
00:55:45.659 --> 00:55:46.139
in it.

1320
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:48.059
I'm like, who's this?

1321
00:55:55.139 --> 00:55:59.579
So it's the end of the episode, and we are going to choose a Star

1322
00:55:59.579 --> 00:56:01.320
Trek story for our next episode.

1323
00:56:01.380 --> 00:56:04.800
And Joe, it's your turn on the randomiser.

1324
00:56:04.860 --> 00:56:06.480
Yeah, I'm here.

1325
00:56:06.539 --> 00:56:11.880
And after 2 episodes of having to watch the absolute Drek of the

1326
00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:16.920
Star Trek franchise, I will keep pressing this button until I find

1327
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:19.679
something mildly enjoyable for us both to watch.

1328
00:56:19.739 --> 00:56:23.820
You know those ones where we think they're really great before we

1329
00:56:23.820 --> 00:56:25.920
watch them and then we watch them and they're kind of terrible.

1330
00:56:25.980 --> 00:56:27.420
Hoping so.

1331
00:56:27.539 --> 00:56:31.139
We've had a few where we've gone the other way as well. like, oh

1332
00:56:31.139 --> 00:56:32.039
was this going to be great?

1333
00:56:32.099 --> 00:56:33.780
And well, this, you and this.

1334
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:34.559
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1335
00:56:34.619 --> 00:56:34.980
Yeah.

1336
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:36.420
This is a lot better than I expected.

1337
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.119
Okay, well, you know, I could be pressing for a while.

1338
00:56:39.179 --> 00:56:40.860
This is the Star Trek franchise after all.

1339
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.900
Are you just, what series are you choosing from?

1340
00:56:43.019 --> 00:56:45.119
Oh, all of them, I'm just going to put them all in.

1341
00:56:45.179 --> 00:56:48.360
Originally, I was just going to do next gen, but I figured I've

1342
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:51.119
got a better hit rate of getting something good if I put them all

1343
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:51.300
in.

1344
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:52.079
All right, okay.

1345
00:56:52.139 --> 00:56:53.519
Okay, off you go.

1346
00:56:53.579 --> 00:56:54.960
Press.

1347
00:56:55.019 --> 00:56:59.219
Your Star Trek Voyager episode is season six, episode 25.

1348
00:56:59.460 --> 00:57:01.079
The haunting of deck 12.

1349
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:02.639
Oh, it's abysmal.

1350
00:57:02.699 --> 00:57:03.719
Remember that one?

1351
00:57:03.780 --> 00:57:04.559
Telling a story.

1352
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:07.019
It's an Elix telling a story to the Borg children or something.

1353
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:12.119
About some sentient gas that's taken over the ship and, you know

1354
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:13.199
I'll press it again.

1355
00:57:13.260 --> 00:57:13.559
Okay.

1356
00:57:13.619 --> 00:57:16.619
Oh, that sounds promising.

1357
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:24.599
Or Star Trek, the Space 9 episode is season five, episode 13 for

1358
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:25.139
the uniform.

1359
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.260
Ooh, is that a 2 partner?

1360
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:34.500
No, that's, that's, that's, we're continuing our, our journey.

1361
00:57:34.500 --> 00:57:36.239
Michael, the career of Michael Eddington.

1362
00:57:37.260 --> 00:57:41.519
And it's the one where Cisco is like the mad villain, bombing

1363
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:42.000
planet.

1364
00:57:42.059 --> 00:57:43.139
He's Javert.

1365
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:45.420
Oh, I don't know, I'm tempted.

1366
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:46.440
It is fantastic.

1367
00:57:46.980 --> 00:57:49.980
But we have done a lot of 90s trek lately.

1368
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:52.619
I wouldn't mind.

1369
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:53.159
Okay.

1370
00:57:53.219 --> 00:57:54.000
No, push it again.

1371
00:57:54.059 --> 00:57:56.159
I pressed it again.

1372
00:57:56.219 --> 00:57:56.699
Okay.

1373
00:57:56.760 --> 00:58:01.920
Your Star Trek Enterprise episode is season 3, episode 21, E

1374
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:03.000
squared.

1375
00:58:03.059 --> 00:58:06.300
Oh, no, it's right in the middle of the Zindi Arc, and they do

1376
00:58:06.300 --> 00:58:09.300
this sort of, it's a bit children of timy.

1377
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:09.900
Oh, okay.

1378
00:58:09.900 --> 00:58:12.539
It's the descendants of enterprise in the Delphic Expanse.

1379
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:13.860
Oh, I have watched that.

1380
00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:15.539
I've actually seen that recently recently recently.

1381
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:16.320
It's terrible.

1382
00:58:16.380 --> 00:58:17.280
I'm going to press it again.

1383
00:58:17.340 --> 00:58:19.079
Oh, here we go.

1384
00:58:19.139 --> 00:58:19.619
This is it.

1385
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:20.099
Okay.

1386
00:58:20.099 --> 00:58:21.179
We've got a classic.

1387
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.099
We've got a classic on our hands.

1388
00:58:23.219 --> 00:58:28.139
Your Star Trek, the next generation episode is season five, episode

1389
00:58:28.139 --> 00:58:28.619
two.

1390
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:30.780
Darmok.

1391
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.440
That's brilliant.

1392
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:39.780
Joe and Nathan at the microphones.

1393
00:58:40.139 --> 00:58:43.980
I am going to watch lots of lower decks in preparation because

1394
00:58:43.980 --> 00:58:49.260
they have a Tamarian security officer who is pretty great.

1395
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:53.039
We haven't done a next generation episode for 10 episodes now.

1396
00:58:53.099 --> 00:58:54.000
It has been a while.

1397
00:58:54.059 --> 00:58:55.500
And that is a good evening.

1398
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:57.960
It is really good. a celebrated episode.

1399
00:58:58.019 --> 00:58:58.980
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1400
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:00.599
And I think with good reason too.

1401
00:59:00.659 --> 00:59:05.639
I think it is pretty good Oh, please, please don't be one of those

1402
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:07.679
ones so we go back and watch it.

1403
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:08.280
I can always say.

1404
00:59:08.340 --> 00:59:09.960
No, no, no, no. pretty sure it won't be.

1405
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:14.400
I seem to remember the fella who plays Darmok is very, very cute.

1406
00:59:14.460 --> 00:59:15.360
Like, it's really charming.

1407
00:59:15.420 --> 00:59:16.380
Yeah, yeah.

1408
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.019
I can't remember his name now Oh well, let's do it.

1409
00:59:26.820 --> 00:59:30.840
You've been listening to entitled Star Trek Project with Joe Ford

1410
00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:34.619
and Nathan Bottomley, where online at Untitled Star Trek Project

1411
00:59:33.780 --> 00:59:36.780
com, where you can find links to our Twitter, Facebook, and

1412
00:59:36.780 --> 00:59:37.679
YouTube channel.

1413
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:41.219
Our podcast artwork is via Kayla Sisrin, and the theme was

1414
00:59:41.219 --> 00:59:42.960
composed by Cameron Lamb.

1415
00:59:43.019 --> 00:59:46.860
This episode was recorded on the 6th of October 2022 and released

1416
00:59:46.860 --> 00:59:48.360
on the 14th of October.

1417
00:59:48.420 --> 00:59:52.920
We'll see you next time for Star Trek the Next Generation, Darmok.

1418
01:00:10.980 --> 01:00:12.059
I think that's an out.

1419
01:00:12.179 --> 01:00:13.500
Yeah.

1420
01:00:13.500 --> 01:00:17.699
I actually want to, I actually want to go out with you saying

1421
01:00:17.699 --> 01:00:18.360
who's this?

1422
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:19.559
And then laugh.

1423
01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:22.199
That's really funny.

1424
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:25.800
How do you sum that up?

1425
01:00:25.860 --> 01:00:26.579
Yeah, but that's it.

1426
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:28.019
Well, no, it's a whole episode.

1427
01:00:28.139 --> 01:00:30.179
It's a whole episode about him being an asshole.

1428
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.780
So it ended on a positive note where he ends up being really nice

1429
01:00:33.780 --> 01:00:38.159
you know, and then undercut it by saying, why wasn't it like this

1430
01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:38.579
all along?

1431
01:00:38.699 --> 01:00:43.019
Well, please, I've got a wonderful reason as to how I'm going to

1432
01:00:43.019 --> 01:00:43.860
randomise.

1433
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:44.639
All right.

1434
01:00:44.699 --> 01:00:48.179
We've watched a lot of shit lately and it would be nice.

1435
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:48.960
Basically, yes.

1436
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:50.699
Basically, yeah.

1437
01:00:51.300 --> 01:00:53.219
Yeah, all right.