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Hey, Joe. Hi.

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So this week we're on board Enterprise for season two, episode four, an episode called Dead Stop, which went out on the 9th of October 2002, and it's directed by Roxanne Dawson.

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Yes, also living up to her tradition of playing evil computer people that try and kill all the regulars like Dreadnall.

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She's in this as well, isn't she?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I didn't actually recognise it because she is doing very sort of generic American lady announcer, like TV announcer or something.

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But I did listen again after reading the memory alpha page and it's unmistakeably her, isn't it?

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Well, like Roxanne, you're directing this one, you know, and you did that great voice in Treadnought.

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Will you just do it for us again?

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save us a bit of money.

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Calling this dead stop, Nathan.

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That was a bit bold, wasn't it?

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Like, that's usually what happens with our interests when we watch the 1st 2 series of Star Trek Enterprise.

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And, you know, pleasingly, both of us, I think, had quite a enjoyable reaction, at least for the 1st half of this episode where it is doing something a little bit different.

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And that's not something you can usually ever point at enterprise and say.

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Yeah, in fact, I remember thinking that it was charming.

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Like actually really quite enjoying it and getting to the kind of halfway point and being a little bit pleased that nothing very much had happened because I was just kind of enjoying hanging out and seeing this new environment.

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And this is not really a Star Trek environment, I think.

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This reminded me a little bit of something that you might find in the kind of new series of Doctor Who.

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It reminded me a little bit of the sort of random places that they land in Red Dwarf.

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It would have had a lot more jokes, you know, and crazy fast cool things happening, but, you know, just a weird space station in space automated where you have to give up something in order for it to repair things for you.

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That's such a juicy idea.

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But you're right, it is a really red dwarf idea. actually.

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I think you're right.

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And I think the other thing too is that with Star Trek, the Next Generation and sort of generally 90s trek, you can see that all of the sets of the stations or the colonies or whatever are kind of built up out of bits and pieces that they have lying around.

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And maybe they have a bit more money or something.

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But this had a very 1970s kind of vision of the future with the gleaming white walls and stuff.

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The sort of thing that you get on, say, Space 1999 or actually on Strange New Worlds.

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That's the aesthetic on Strangely Worlds, I think.

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Doctor Who's Ark in Space is literally this, isn't it?

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It's all clinical, so the horror stands out.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and I really liked that.

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I thought that was really good and I thought that just the interactions like the the frustration of not being able to get past a phone tree and speak to a real person.

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Like all of that stuff was a kind of Star Trek-y thing on something that was sort of fairly modern at the time, an annoying part of everyday 21st century line.

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We've all been there, haven't we?

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And they literally do the thing where it just keeps repeating itself until you do what it wants you to do.

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Otherwise, this ain't going any further.

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So I just thought all of that was really charming.

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And I did think too, what was good was just the very light serialisation.

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And I think that that's a really good thing for Star Trek.

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Because this episode would have worked if you hadn't seen last week's episode, you would have just gone, we wish we happened last week.

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Yeah, it was a terrible episode.

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We've talked about it already.

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It's minefield.

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But Malcolm's been injured.

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The ship's been damaged and we need to do something.

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And like, I actually thought that that would have worked.

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We could have just started a Star Trek episode like that.

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We wouldn't have to have seen what happened last week and it would still have worked.

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Then it would have been narratively a little bit more interesting than what you normally get with Star Trek, which is we're just going along with the status quo and then a thing happens.

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You know, when Voyager does, you know, the killing game and it starts in the middle of a thing after the ship has already been taken over, for instance, or counterpoint, where they're already in this situation that they're aware of, but we're not.

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That's always interesting in Star Trek and you kind of get that here.

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I thought that worked really well.

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Well, it's just creating the story here out of the consequences of what happened last week whilst being no part of the episode last week.

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It's really, like, the Undertime Voyager, I can ever remember doing this, is the end of Scorpion into the gift. where the ship's still covered in all of our bork technology.

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Why did they take it off?

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It looks so right.

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And it makes sense, right?

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You know, we've been damaged by the minefield in the last episode.

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So we need to go and repair.

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It's no great sort of sweeps of imagination to get there, but the imagination is in the execution and the concept of this weird, quiet machine that, you know, the arms just come out and start building things, but, you know, it was something from you before it actually died.

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Who does he belong to this thing?

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We never find out.

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Yeah, that's kind of great. awesome, isn't it?

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It's really good.

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It's a bit of a risk as well.

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Yeah.

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So the Tellerites, who, obviously, to Paul is aware of, but the others aren't, which is kind of interesting, they direct them to the station, and you can see why they might do that because the price is sort of fairly low, and if you fall for their evil plan, you won't be aware that one of your crew members has gone missing.

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And in fact, there might be a telerizing.

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How did we ever notice?

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What's his name again?

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Yeah, Travis.

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I don't even know his name.

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We've done so many episodes.

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Travis.

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How would we even notice you wasn't there?

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If he don't get a line next week?

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Well, that's fine.

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That's the status quo.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, I'll talk about how this handles Travis and I think it handles it really badly and it's probably the worst thing about the episode.

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It does get its top off, though.

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So not altogether badly.

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Yeah, I've seen what started there is rippling muscles on display.

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Oh, how lovely.

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Yeah, they finally learn how to write these characters.

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Do you remember how stiff they were in minefield, Reed and Archer, how stiff they were having breakfast together?

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There's no hint of that here.

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They're all kind of chill around, even reeds.

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Like it's kind of chill around people.

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You are right, though.

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You hit the middle of the episode and a sort of amiable romp in a fun scenario becomes a stock Star Trek episode where the thing is trying, like you said, there's duplicates of people were trying to convince that a regular character is dead.

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They're not going to die in this, are they?

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Good grief.

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And then, you know, we're going through the guts of the ship to find lots of regular characters from all the different adjacent Star Trek Enterprise shows where there's one crew member of their show in the bowels of the ship and then they stop it, blow it up and go.

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And I was just like, right, what started off as something with a bit of imagination ends in a sort of very standard Star Trek.

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And there isn't.

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I'll be honest, there risen when their action starts and I use the term loosely, much dynamism in it.

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They do just sort of walk from room to room. you know?

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It's certainly a lot better than the Enterprise episodes we have done in season one or 2 to this point, but I did, I've said to you several times off, Mike, if this was any other Star Trek show, if this was any other Star Trek crew, this would be gold, this episode, I would think you could spin something really funny, a bit chaotic.

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I mean, DS and I, man.

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I just want to see Odo and Quark.

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Investigating this ship.

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You said Shubac and Neelix.

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I mean, Spock and McCoy. would be amazing.

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Instead, we've got the sort of Trek light characters of the Enterprise crew wandering through being, okay.

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Yeah, I have to say that the more I watch Enterprise, the more I grow fond of these characters.

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And I particularly like Stockholm Syndrome, though, isn't it?

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Yeah, probably.

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It is probably.

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I still dislike Archer and again, Archer really kind of only has one way of showing emotion and it's by being aggressive.

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And I thought that that was sort of particularly apparent here.

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He has one good season, doesn't he, Archer, which is season four. where I think Bacula's got enough weight at that and a new showrunners come in.

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He's like, can you just make me less of a cunt, please?

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I'm going to play it that way anyway. less of a cunt.

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So can you write that?

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Do you know what I mean?

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Do you know how charming I am?

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No, you look in the captains where William Shatner goes around and interviews all the captains, you know, Avery Brooks at the piano like a complete lunatic and Kate Mulgrew talking about a fabulous theatrical career and all this.

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Scott Bacula turns up on a fucking horse with a guitar.

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It's almost like he's gone, look.

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This is what you could have got, all right?

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if you'd written me well.

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And he gets off and he shakes his hand.

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He's got this huge expressive smile, he starts playing the guitar and you're like, who is this man?

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We never saw him before seasons.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a bit unfortunate.

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Yeah.

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Well, look, there are some...

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That was sort of a deep breath for both of us.

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Look, there are some longer in this episode.

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It's not very fast moving, and I don't want to run out of things to say in the next 45 minutes, so I'm sorry, I think we might be done, I'm afraid.

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No, there's lovely special effects. talk about those.

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We absolutely can.

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All right.

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I will count us in in that case.

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Okay.

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Five, four, three, two, one, and we're off.

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I'll just look at my list.

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Oh, no, I have exhausted all my talking points.

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I'm sorry. things.

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But this thing, fabulous.

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Yeah, yeah, because you can distress the shit because it's computer generated.

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You can do a really, really good job of doing damage to the ship.

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And I actually really like just how much how much of a predicament there in.

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You know, they can't, they can travel at warp too, and that just means here in 2151 or whatever, it will take them 10 years to get home, you know, and you don't have to throw someone into the delta quadrant to make, to strand them.

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I think, oh, you forget, oh, I certainly do, that they are inside a massive tin box, just all of these little rooms inside a massive tin box where there is a maybe 5 inches between you and the vacuum of space.

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So when you see the side of the ship like that torn open with all the little rooms and the 30, yeah, the caranors and stuff, it's good.

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That sells the, it's dangerous out there in space better than the whole 1st season of enterprise.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, I think it's really good.

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I think that was really good.

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And I gather, and I don't know anything about this, and all of the people who know more about Enterprise than me who are listening will be shouting at their phones, but lunatics.

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But I think the next episode after this, Marauders is also something that follows on from this.

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You know, so it is this sort of, there's a little bit of mild serialisation here, which I think Star Trek could always afford to do.

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It's not sort of the occupation arc of DS9 season six, is it?

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But we appreciate, you know, actions having concert.

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Oh here we go.

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It's been a long time.

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Oh, it's before it's Enterprise before it's Star Trek Enterprise.

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Why didn't Bacula get off the horse and sing that?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, thief.

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That would have been great.

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Awesome.

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All of our great achievements through history.

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You know, I just love the joke that we've told before, and now I can read about it in the transcript, you know, about they seem to be suggesting the greatest achievement at the end of this title sequence is Star Trek Enterprise, the TV program.

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Because that's where they land at the end, isn't it?

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It's humanity's greatest achievement.

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Bradan, no, we beg to differ.

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You know that shot or the challenger there going up.

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You know that shot of the space rocket going up?

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I think that's been used in 2 Doctor Who stories.

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It's like a Satin 5 rocket, isn't it?

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Probably.

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Yeah.

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Now, I think humanity's greatest achievement was learning to spell enterprise with an S instead of a Z. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And their worst achievement was ripping Star Trek from the title.

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You fools.

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No one's watching anymore.

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At the time, I actually thought that if you wanted to change up how Star Trek gets named, basically the only thing that you could call it is Enterprise.

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I mean, the reason the ship's called Enterprise is because Star Trek's not in the title and what else do you have?

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Do you know what I mean?

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You have the Enterprise.

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Nathan, last week, we were quite enamoured with Patrick Stewart's impressive bulge in his pants.

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There's just been a pull back on Malcolm Reid there in very unflattering sort of box of shorts. skinny legs.

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There's just nothing in there, is there?

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I mean, if he wasn't boring enough.

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I think what's really funny here is Billingsley, of course, and his dialogue.

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Brilliant.

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And so and so Malcolm says, I thought, you know, the Hippocratic oath says that you aren't allowed to cause harm.

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And he said, no, it wasn't causing harm.

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It was just causing you pain and I can do that as much as I like.

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Which is really good.

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Do you know how much you people annoy me?

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I call you pain all the time.

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Oh, there's your shot at the dog.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, so and the camera is right on the ground all the way through this shot.

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We've got sort of weird...

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Yeah it's really good.

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But the dog actually gets some very nice shots.

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I think she gets bored along with the episode.

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She's really invested in the 1st half, setting up this place.

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By the end of the episode, she's sort of like, oh, point it and shoot.

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We've done this on Voyager, you know.

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But this is just that scene is just from the dog's point of view.

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Like, the camera has the dog right in the middle of it.

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Not since the opening of a night in Sick Bay, has the dog featured so strongly, I think.

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Isn't it nice though?

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She's full.

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This is a very functional scene.

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Can I do some perspective wise with the dog?

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Can I just make it about the dog?

218
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We have had a dog closer to the camera than Captain Archer.

219
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I think people might keep watching.

220
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It worked on me.

221
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Of course it did.

222
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Oh, Jolene, you're still in your...

223
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I mean, she's she's all right in this.

224
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I do wish she had a few more jokes, though.

225
00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:48.000
Yeah.

226
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Oh, she does get better, doesn't she?

227
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I think she gets really good.

228
00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:54.299
I really like Jolene, but she's being a bit boringly written.

229
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She's sort of slightly emerged from her you fucking idiot stage.

230
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Do you know what I mean?

231
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But we did love that, though.

232
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She was the only one talking any sense, wasn't she?

233
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all the episodes.

234
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Look at it.

235
00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:08.220
It looks like Doctor Who, like 2 toilet rolls in space.

236
00:16:08.340 --> 00:16:10.919
It's like hair rollers.

237
00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:20.460
It's actually very classic trek remastered, I think, is what they're going for, is the look.

238
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What, from something else?

239
00:16:22.139 --> 00:16:25.080
No, no, I'm just saying, you know, it's geometrical.

240
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It's that...

241
00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:28.620
It's moving directly.

242
00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:29.580
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

243
00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:30.779
It is retro.

244
00:16:31.379 --> 00:16:32.700
Yeah.

245
00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.500
Oh, I was so pleased in this as well.

246
00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:36.600
I mean, I was pleased that Travis got to do anything.

247
00:16:36.659 --> 00:16:38.639
But then Hoshi got a scene as well.

248
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I thought, my God, they've given them something to do in the same episode.

249
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Do you know what?

250
00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:45.120
They ran out of ink in their barrow that week.

251
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Marking the script.

252
00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:53.340
So, I think the problem is, like, so you're going to kill Travis, right?

253
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And you don't want it to be a surprise, and you don't want to make too much of it because the audience knows it's fake, right?

254
00:17:01.980 --> 00:17:03.960
What's the point then?

255
00:17:04.019 --> 00:17:05.819
So, yeah.

256
00:17:06.420 --> 00:17:13.019
But why don't you make it about Travis at the beginning?

257
00:17:13.019 --> 00:17:13.619
Do you know what I mean?

258
00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:15.839
Why don't you tell the story from his point of view?

259
00:17:15.900 --> 00:17:17.279
He's really underserved.

260
00:17:17.339 --> 00:17:19.019
We don't see what his day is like.

261
00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:20.339
We never see what it's like.

262
00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:24.900
So why not make him the focus character for the episode and then have him killed?

263
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He's a boomer, right?

264
00:17:26.700 --> 00:17:30.359
Maybe he was flying around one time and he needed some repairs and he's been here before.

265
00:17:30.420 --> 00:17:33.660
Yeah, he thought, no, that I don't recognise that.

266
00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:36.059
And, you know, but he went exploring a bit.

267
00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:38.519
You know, it's just something like that, something to tie into.

268
00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:41.220
Because he's just a nothing character, isn't he?

269
00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:52.740
No, because because when Hoshi goes to see him in a scene that I think is actually pretty good and mostly because of the acts really well, and she's great.

270
00:17:52.740 --> 00:17:55.980
Backstory, she seems to suggest I've never seen any evidence of it.

271
00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:57.059
No, that's right.

272
00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.240
She tells a story about him being a great jokester, and it's just like, really?

273
00:18:00.299 --> 00:18:03.599
Because as far as I can tell, he has no personal characteristics of any kind.

274
00:18:03.900 --> 00:18:11.880
We've got to point this out because we write one, I love the thing that comes out of the console that Jolene looks into on the bridge.

275
00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:16.559
I don't know why, but I just like things that emerge out on like that. quite fabulous.

276
00:18:16.619 --> 00:18:25.500
Two, when the space station opened up like a flower and the camera came around and you saw the enterprise through there, that's a great special effect shot.

277
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And now you just see like docking ports coming out, arms moving.

278
00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.940
It's like you said, they can do tech now.

279
00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.059
The special effects are there that they can do tech convincingly.

280
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They can't do tech, but they can do tech.

281
00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:40.019
It looks great.

282
00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:42.359
But these tunnels look amazing, don't they?

283
00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:44.339
We're entering the Twilight Zone.

284
00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:44.700
Yeah.

285
00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:45.480
Yeah, yeah.

286
00:18:45.539 --> 00:18:47.160
It's very Doctor Who-ish, though.

287
00:18:47.220 --> 00:18:49.319
It is very kind of the girl who waited.

288
00:18:49.380 --> 00:18:51.359
You know, like, squint a bit.

289
00:18:51.420 --> 00:18:52.500
You can see Chris Barry there.

290
00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:53.400
Daddy John George.

291
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It's also very red dwarf.

292
00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:55.619
All right.

293
00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.059
They've got a lot in common.

294
00:18:57.180 --> 00:18:58.619
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

295
00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:06.900
But it should be lacking in atmosphere because it is so sterile, but because it's so quiet as well.

296
00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:09.779
There is even a eerie atmosphere.

297
00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:22.680
Like that shot of the Enterprise is a 3D holographic image, I know that's just normal in Star Trek, you know, in modern Star Trek, but that's pretty impressive, I think.

298
00:19:22.740 --> 00:19:28.259
Well, as well as Roxanne going, can we just get the camera on the ceiling, please, shoot down.

299
00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:29.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

300
00:19:29.339 --> 00:19:31.079
She is great.

301
00:19:31.140 --> 00:19:35.220
I think she's learned a lot of lessons from forager, you know, because she did some pretty dismal.

302
00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:36.900
She directed some terrible gorgeous.

303
00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.220
What about this, right?

304
00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:43.559
So there's a scratch that it's detected on the hull, which is where Tripp bumped it.

305
00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:51.779
And it, and Archer says, I thought I told you to have that repainted, and there's a little bit of a thing there.

306
00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.920
But Archer says it in an aggressive way rather than in a funny way.

307
00:19:55.980 --> 00:19:58.200
Like, that's clearly meant to be a funny line.

308
00:19:58.259 --> 00:19:59.759
Imagine Avery, you know.

309
00:19:59.940 --> 00:20:02.400
You said you'd repainted that.

310
00:20:02.460 --> 00:20:03.420
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

311
00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.500
Because it doesn't matter, but he's like properly aggressive about it.

312
00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:08.700
Like it's unpleasant.

313
00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:10.319
I don't know why he plays it like.

314
00:20:10.380 --> 00:20:12.599
Something bad happened in his past.

315
00:20:12.660 --> 00:20:13.140
Do you think?

316
00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:16.319
He just likes taking it out on all of his inferiors on the ship.

317
00:20:16.380 --> 00:20:17.039
Maybe.

318
00:20:17.819 --> 00:20:20.519
So he's he's Roxanne doing the voice.

319
00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:27.420
And, you know, like, Archer's right to be suspicious of this and he sort of does the right thing.

320
00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:29.220
Gosh, he's stiff, isn't he?

321
00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:29.940
Holy crap.

322
00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:30.660
Yeah.

323
00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:31.980
Well, they all are a bit.

324
00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:33.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

325
00:20:34.380 --> 00:20:43.079
I do love, though, the bargain, because I kept thinking, oh, okay, so it's going to be too much. to do the repairs, the thing's going to ask too much.

326
00:20:43.140 --> 00:20:44.279
That's all I understand.

327
00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:45.720
Trek approach.

328
00:20:45.779 --> 00:20:52.079
No, they just want, what is it, 200 litres of some fluid or a couple of reactor oils or something like that?

329
00:20:52.140 --> 00:20:54.240
So I was like, oh, how reasonable.

330
00:20:54.299 --> 00:20:58.559
Now I'm even more I'll find this even more sinister.

331
00:20:58.619 --> 00:20:59.220
Yeah.

332
00:20:59.279 --> 00:20:59.819
Yeah.

333
00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:01.200
Oh, you see, that's the other thing too.

334
00:21:01.259 --> 00:21:19.140
I kind of like the fact that, you know, the atmosphere was helium from a distance and now, you know, they're noticing that all the signage is in English, you know, like, like, it's this inexplicable welcoming technology and stuff, which obviously makes them suspicious, but it's so different from what Star Trek normally does.

335
00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:22.740
But we've watched, we've read enough Grimm's Fairy Tales now.

336
00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:33.900
You know, we know if there's someone who looks suspiciously a bit like a witch, but you know, with a wig on and is holding out an apple in front of the cottage to us, then you just don't take it, all right?

337
00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:34.440
You go.

338
00:21:34.500 --> 00:21:38.819
So the 2nd that this computer is, oh, I think we can spare some plasma.

339
00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:40.980
We know that something bad.

340
00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:42.359
It's happening on this station.

341
00:21:42.420 --> 00:21:43.500
Yeah.

342
00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:45.359
Well, and so does Archer.

343
00:21:45.420 --> 00:21:53.880
But I was actually enjoying myself so much. during this that I didn't really want to think about how it was going to inevitably go wrong.

344
00:21:53.940 --> 00:22:01.680
And I just remember looking at the clock, it sort of 22 minutes in and stuff and thinking, oh, wow, nothing bad has happened yet.

345
00:22:01.740 --> 00:22:03.359
There's been no jeopardy yet.

346
00:22:03.420 --> 00:22:06.359
I thought that was really just kind of refreshing.

347
00:22:06.420 --> 00:22:08.880
I want to be specific though.

348
00:22:08.940 --> 00:22:17.339
I was, I was also enjoying myself, but I, in terms of aesthetics and in terms of the technology, it was shown that I had never seen before.

349
00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:24.420
And in terms of some of the execution, you know, the camera angles we've talked about, it wasn't really the characters that were thrilling me.

350
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:26.460
It was the scenario we were in.

351
00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:28.259
Yeah.

352
00:22:29.099 --> 00:22:29.700
They're all right.

353
00:22:29.819 --> 00:22:32.039
I don't want to shit on them from a great height.

354
00:22:32.099 --> 00:22:38.579
They're all right, but all right, don't really cut it when you've just had the DS9 and Voyager and TNG crew, you know?

355
00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:41.519
go from 7 seasons and reach peaks.

356
00:22:41.579 --> 00:22:42.240
Yeah.

357
00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:44.700
I mean, you know, like, I think Trooper's great.

358
00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:45.779
I think Tapol is great.

359
00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:53.160
I think Billingsley, like I think that Flux is incredibly good, you know, as good as anyone, any Star Trek regular has ever been.

360
00:22:53.220 --> 00:22:58.019
I think one person, I think, who comes out this of like, you could put him in any of the other shows.

361
00:22:58.140 --> 00:22:59.339
Yeah, and he would fly.

362
00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:02.640
Would he be the best thing in those shows, though?

363
00:23:02.700 --> 00:23:03.480
I don't know.

364
00:23:03.539 --> 00:23:04.859
Maybe not, but he would be very good.

365
00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:06.720
I think he is great. you know.

366
00:23:06.779 --> 00:23:16.859
I love, again, you know, like just this stuff about technology, like I know that sort of boring, but I'm a Star Trek nerd and I just kind of like that.

367
00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:31.619
And so having them discover these replicators for the 1st time, having the windows with all of the repair equipment, you know, happening outside and later on when this room's full of enterprise crew members and the ships being assembled outside the window.

368
00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:32.700
I think that's terrific.

369
00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.339
Well, and it gets one up on minefield.

370
00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:38.640
I don't know if you remember, chef's amazing breakfast.

371
00:23:38.700 --> 00:23:40.019
I can't remember what he makes now.

372
00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:44.700
It looked dismal because it had clearly been there on the set for ages.

373
00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:47.880
Well, Tripp actually eats the food in this. takes a little nibble.

374
00:23:48.180 --> 00:23:52.799
I just love how to poll orders a glass of cold water.

375
00:23:52.859 --> 00:23:55.619
Fucking so boring.

376
00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:59.460
Pork would have been like one warp core breach, please.

377
00:23:59.579 --> 00:24:00.960
Tykalian ale.

378
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.980
Do you remember that warp core breech drink?

379
00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:06.480
Foam in everywhere?

380
00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:07.440
Yeah, awesome.

381
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:12.299
I mean, it's so cheesy that fucking trip board is a catfish as well.

382
00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:16.440
Like, it's like, come on, dude. but geographically specific.

383
00:24:16.500 --> 00:24:17.940
Yeah, that's right.

384
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:20.819
But, like, it looks like real food.

385
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:23.099
Like, it looks like real proper food.

386
00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:27.720
Like, I hate fish, but that, you know, and he just...

387
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:28.980
Oh, I like fish, you know.

388
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:32.700
I do like a man doesn't sit down Why doesn't he sit down and eat it?

389
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:34.140
It just seems ridiculous.

390
00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:35.279
Like he's standing there.

391
00:24:35.339 --> 00:24:40.920
You know, there's no, if he'd be far too relaxed then and we're doing the sort of stiff period of enterprise, aren't we?

392
00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:48.240
Not a lot of emotion on anyone's face.

393
00:24:48.299 --> 00:24:49.559
Now to Paul I can forgive.

394
00:24:49.619 --> 00:24:53.220
Archer's just got nothing going on in his face at all.

395
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:56.339
At least Tripp's excited by the catfish. like come on.

396
00:24:56.700 --> 00:24:59.759
Hang on. if we're geographically specific.

397
00:24:59.819 --> 00:25:00.299
So what?

398
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.599
Would Malcolm Reed come in and go, you know, cucumber sandwiches, please?

399
00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:06.720
What would Hoshi order?

400
00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:08.700
You eat a lot of Asian food?

401
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:09.599
How shoulder?

402
00:25:09.660 --> 00:25:10.140
Something delicious.

403
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:10.859
Korean?

404
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:11.339
I don't know.

405
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:12.059
What's her back?

406
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:13.500
I know what her background is.

407
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:14.160
Is she Japanese?

408
00:25:14.220 --> 00:25:14.759
don't know.

409
00:25:14.819 --> 00:25:16.380
It would be it would look amazing though.

410
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:17.339
Look at this.

411
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:18.720
This is white.

412
00:25:18.779 --> 00:25:21.720
It's literally putting the walls back on with its mechanical arms.

413
00:25:21.779 --> 00:25:22.619
Yeah, yeah.

414
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:28.380
Like it replicates a wall and a bit of wall and then puts it back in and seals it up.

415
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:32.700
And then this, which is just looks like an exocomp that they've painted.

416
00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:33.839
No, it's on inside.

417
00:25:33.900 --> 00:25:37.200
Look, you can see his mouth. isn't it?

418
00:25:37.259 --> 00:25:39.779
It's that peanut butter have pop.

419
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:41.220
I can see.

420
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.200
Oh, no, Malcolm Rood.

421
00:25:46.259 --> 00:25:48.720
You're in your underwear and you look so unsexy.

422
00:25:48.779 --> 00:25:51.539
How do you achieve these levels of autumn?

423
00:25:52.259 --> 00:25:54.240
Bless his heart.

424
00:25:54.299 --> 00:25:55.500
I know what?

425
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:56.099
I love the fact.

426
00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:10.859
I do love the fact that the actor has since developed his own Star Trek podcast and, you know, he's made a sort of more of a name for himself doing that than he has actually being a part of the show, but this was not the best part of your career.

427
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:12.359
No, it's not good.

428
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:13.740
It's not good.

429
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.920
Like, look, Billingsley doesn't have to try to be funny.

430
00:26:16.980 --> 00:26:20.400
He's trying to do faces and weird body language and all sorts.

431
00:26:20.460 --> 00:26:21.900
Billy Lou's just standing there being funny.

432
00:26:21.900 --> 00:26:22.680
Yeah.

433
00:26:22.740 --> 00:26:27.599
I mean, it's like, there's that particular English way of being funny that we talked about.

434
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.119
Oh, would you do it again?

435
00:26:30.180 --> 00:26:30.720
It was funny.

436
00:26:30.779 --> 00:26:31.920
Sid doing.

437
00:26:31.980 --> 00:26:35.579
Or a drink. or a drink.

438
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:40.799
Oh, Nathan, you'd make such an awkward Englishman, you know.

439
00:26:40.859 --> 00:26:41.579
How wonderful.

440
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:44.519
Watch a lot of English television.

441
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:49.500
You try and convince us you're a confident Australian.

442
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:50.039
Come on.

443
00:26:50.099 --> 00:26:53.819
Oh, so like she does a gag here, doesn't she?

444
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:55.680
She sort of does a line about the gremlin.

445
00:26:55.740 --> 00:26:56.940
It's not really funny.

446
00:26:57.000 --> 00:27:03.480
Um, but like it is the sort of thing that they lean into later when they're kind of getting her to loosen up a bit.

447
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:14.759
Do you remember, though, when we watched emissary, we said how Avery Brooks had that fabulous sort of rye grid on his face throughout all of the scenes as he's meeting all these angry women and stuff on the station.

448
00:27:14.819 --> 00:27:16.740
And it just seemed to be having a great time.

449
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.079
I don't think Captain Archer ever has a good time.

450
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.380
No, no he's so miserable.

451
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:38.940
You see, even the thing, like the thing that Archer regrets most of all is not the fact that he's never really had a conversation with Travis ever, but the fact that he invited him to breakfast and then receive the invitation. so sad about that.

452
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:41.400
He says it's not something like that. you know, he's put it in his diary.

453
00:27:41.460 --> 00:27:47.160
He's mentioned that he can't have chefs miserable looking devilled eggs or whatever they were.

454
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.440
But all of it.

455
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.259
Is that all you have to say about him when he's there?

456
00:27:55.380 --> 00:27:58.259
That's it because we have nothing.

457
00:27:58.319 --> 00:27:59.640
We know nothing about him.

458
00:27:59.700 --> 00:28:01.859
He has no characteristics at all.

459
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:05.819
Think about how like what a shitty job.

460
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.700
The Denise Crosby hologram did.

461
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:14.279
Oh, look, there was pretty Travis laughing in the background. smile on his face, you know?

462
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:15.599
He didn't that to do that.

463
00:28:15.660 --> 00:28:17.460
Get his clothes off as well.

464
00:28:17.579 --> 00:28:19.019
I don't mind objectifying him.

465
00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:28.440
Actually, there's an insistent rule from the station that you have to be naked when you're eating in the restroom, you know?

466
00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:29.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

467
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:31.200
That would just open things up considerably.

468
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.019
Oh yeah, no, Marathon Reed's there.

469
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:35.039
Sorry, I'm drinking more.

470
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:44.759
I mean, I think that they do an attempt, don't they, kind of male friendship, which obviously is sort of a pale imitation of anything that you get in Deep Space nine.

471
00:28:44.819 --> 00:28:46.140
No, you know what it is.

472
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.980
It's a late version of Viz magazine.

473
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:58.619
They lean into it in a couple of episodes where they're down on sure leave, looking to fuck all the women on the planet and getting drunk together.

474
00:28:58.619 --> 00:29:04.980
And, you know, I mean, it's loaded magazine as written by middle class old Americans.

475
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:06.839
Yes, yeah, I think you're right.

476
00:29:06.900 --> 00:29:10.440
I think you're right People really rate that friendship.

477
00:29:10.500 --> 00:29:13.140
I just, oh, it just gives me the ick.

478
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.759
Look at the, like, do you know what a palm pile it is?

479
00:29:17.819 --> 00:29:19.319
No, is it?

480
00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:19.920
Okay, okay.

481
00:29:19.980 --> 00:29:28.980
It was a little computer that just looked like that looks like a little Windows CE computer from like the period, the little computer that they're handing to each other.

482
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:29.880
Oh my god.

483
00:29:29.940 --> 00:29:32.039
Oh, you see, this is stupid, isn't it?

484
00:29:32.099 --> 00:29:35.579
So they decide. to go and look at the computer.

485
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:40.859
They decide to go and look for the computer and that's what sets all this off or something.

486
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.819
It isn't really because the computer is going to kind of get Travis anyway, I guess.

487
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:46.680
But what you want, right?

488
00:29:46.740 --> 00:29:48.660
is like, I mean, not this extreme.

489
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:54.720
But, you know, tiptoe-y music and them going, shh, you know, and like, you want it to be a fun secret.

490
00:29:55.619 --> 00:29:58.440
Yeah, just sort of like, open the door.

491
00:29:58.500 --> 00:30:00.059
Try this bit of technobabble.

492
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:01.799
Actually, I've got this bit of technology in my pocket.

493
00:30:01.859 --> 00:30:02.940
There we go. get in that way.

494
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.220
Let's call through some Jeffries, you know.

495
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.200
Yeah, the usual Star Trek shit.

496
00:30:07.259 --> 00:30:09.720
Magic Cork and Odo doing that, Jesus Christ.

497
00:30:09.779 --> 00:30:11.579
I mean, we did it, didn't we?

498
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.200
You're going to hit them with a box.

499
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.180
You know, you can make this stuff funny.

500
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:18.720
I am enjoying watching them.

501
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:23.579
Look at how she that bit of grating on the ceiling was.

502
00:30:23.579 --> 00:30:25.319
That's amazing.

503
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.720
I've seen this scene in Wars of the Deep, you know.

504
00:30:27.779 --> 00:30:30.359
That is exactly where I was going as well.

505
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.140
Well, look, we're trying to be funny here.

506
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:36.299
We're trying to do a little bit of physical comedy there.

507
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:37.740
Where?

508
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:42.119
Oh, like just how clumsy they are getting up through the thing.

509
00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:45.119
Like one lifting the other one up is...

510
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:46.319
Oh, my word.

511
00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:48.720
Oh, my actual word.

512
00:30:48.779 --> 00:30:51.000
He, oh, look at that, Balty Nathan.

513
00:30:51.299 --> 00:30:52.019
Good grief.

514
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:53.400
Don't put your top on, mate.

515
00:30:53.460 --> 00:30:55.380
God sakes. look at that.

516
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.000
Did you know what, right?

517
00:30:57.059 --> 00:30:59.460
Do you see his underwear compared to Malcolm Reeves?

518
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:01.920
He knows how to be sexy, you know?

519
00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:03.059
Travis.

520
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.859
He wears a lot of makeup.

521
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:06.960
They give Travis so much makeup.

522
00:31:07.019 --> 00:31:07.980
Don't they?

523
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:08.819
don't understand.

524
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:15.660
Being the prettiest man on this entire show, why just doesn't get all the exposure in the 4 seasons instead of none of it.

525
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:20.160
We know why he doesn't because they're, you know, unfortunate racists.

526
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:21.960
Yeah, I think so.

527
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.160
Yeah, I mean, it's it is unfortunate.

528
00:31:26.220 --> 00:31:28.920
It's a huge shame because he is so attractive.

529
00:31:28.980 --> 00:31:30.420
He's adorable.

530
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.220
This should be hilarious, right?

531
00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.119
They're crawling along the floor and Jolene's raising an eyebrow.

532
00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:39.180
Well, at least Roxanne knows how to shoot it.

533
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:40.200
Do you know what I mean?

534
00:31:40.259 --> 00:31:44.880
with them looking up at her and her staring superciliously down at them.

535
00:31:44.940 --> 00:31:46.200
Like she knows how to do it.

536
00:31:46.259 --> 00:31:49.380
But I'm going to give you a direct comparison now.

537
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.980
There's a wonderful scene in the magnificent Ferengi's so long.

538
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:59.759
They're crawling along Jeffrey's tubes, Quark and ROM delivering all this exposition about going to save Mookie from the Dominion, yeah?

539
00:31:59.819 --> 00:32:13.380
And we go up and down corridors, up ladders, and then all of a sudden, the thing bursts out of Cisco's war with his office, and they both go through and Cisco's like, can I help you, gentlemen, and Rom just goes, I was following you.

540
00:32:15.420 --> 00:32:17.460
That's how you do it.

541
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.380
Yeah, yeah.

542
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:20.819
No, they're not funny, are they?

543
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.319
I mean, it's different riders.

544
00:32:22.380 --> 00:32:24.599
It's the nonfunny writing team.

545
00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:25.980
That's right.

546
00:32:26.460 --> 00:32:29.819
Have we ever sort of had a belly laugh at this show?

547
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.319
No, what she needs.

548
00:32:31.380 --> 00:32:36.720
I did actually like Archer's line about, you know, where Tripp tries to take responsibility for it.

549
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:40.740
And he goes, yeah, I think Malcolm's old enough to make his own decisions here.

550
00:32:40.859 --> 00:32:41.640
Do you know what I mean?

551
00:32:41.700 --> 00:32:42.900
It's just like, yeah, good try.

552
00:32:43.019 --> 00:32:43.500
Nice try.

553
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:49.980
But even here, there's that slight nastiness where he went, yeah, you were questioning my slackness the other day.

554
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.220
Yeah, maybe you had a point about the slackness on this ship.

555
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:54.539
I can't remember his outline.

556
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:56.579
I'm like, why are you being such a cunt?

557
00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:58.259
That's right.

558
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.359
Oh, has he slighted you?

559
00:33:00.420 --> 00:33:01.319
I'm so sorry.

560
00:33:01.619 --> 00:33:05.339
Jesus, go and grab your foosball or whatever it is.

561
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:05.940
You'll feel better.

562
00:33:06.059 --> 00:33:09.119
Oh, water polo, for God's sake, yeah.

563
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.740
Oh, good, it's Billingsley.

564
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:14.460
We in good hands here.

565
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:15.240
Yeah, yeah.

566
00:33:15.299 --> 00:33:15.720
He's dead.

567
00:33:16.859 --> 00:33:19.380
And it's the usual thing too.

568
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:21.420
Like, Captain, you need to come here.

569
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.079
It's just like, can you just tell me, like, just tell me.

570
00:33:25.140 --> 00:33:30.480
You don't have to bring me there and then surprise me by, you know, at the end in time for the ad break.

571
00:33:30.539 --> 00:33:31.740
Well, it's right truth.

572
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.200
It didn't end on on the corpse.

573
00:33:34.259 --> 00:33:35.160
It ended on Archer.

574
00:33:35.220 --> 00:33:39.000
So it could have been anywhere. literally been anywhere, got the news.

575
00:33:39.059 --> 00:33:41.400
So this is, yeah, that's right.

576
00:33:41.460 --> 00:33:43.140
He could have just, he could have just said it.

577
00:33:43.500 --> 00:33:48.720
So now this is the 2nd more boring half of the episode.

578
00:33:48.779 --> 00:33:56.279
And part of the reason it doesn't work is, of course, that you don't buy the death and that's kind of central to it.

579
00:33:56.339 --> 00:34:02.279
Um, and that the episode hasn't been about, uh, Travis.

580
00:34:02.339 --> 00:34:07.200
And so anything anyone says about Travis, um, just doesn't land.

581
00:34:07.259 --> 00:34:07.980
Is that right?

582
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:09.420
Oh, when was that?

583
00:34:09.539 --> 00:34:11.099
Yeah, yeah.

584
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:19.440
Well, do you think that, do you think that that scene where we open on the, in the rec room and Travis is there talking to someone and he's laughing uproariously?

585
00:34:19.619 --> 00:34:22.559
Like just done one of his practical jokes?

586
00:34:22.619 --> 00:34:23.519
Is that it?

587
00:34:23.579 --> 00:34:30.059
Like, I think it just is to try to create some credibility for that thing that, oh, she says.

588
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.219
I mean, they could have set that up at any point.

589
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.820
It just had one child being scene where he does a practical joke at some point.

590
00:34:35.940 --> 00:34:40.559
Like have the episode about him at the beginning, like tell the story of his day.

591
00:34:40.619 --> 00:34:42.659
You don't always just have to do.

592
00:34:42.780 --> 00:34:49.019
I mean, this is the, it's like they've forgotten the Michael Piller lesson that these things need to happen.

593
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:53.099
Like there needs to be an individual who the episodes about.

594
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:59.579
Instead, this is just about the crew doing space things and it's not about how a person is impacted by it.

595
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:01.920
We were doing it in the same way in emissary.

596
00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:05.579
We literally wouldn't have had any of that pre-title sequence of Jennifer dying, right?

597
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:12.239
We wouldn't have had the scene of Picard and Cisco, you know, being angry with each other because he was there when she died.

598
00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:17.400
It would just be the scene at the end where he goes, well, you know, my wife died and I exist here.

599
00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:18.239
We'd be going, what?

600
00:35:18.300 --> 00:35:19.320
What the hell?

601
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:20.820
Yeah, where did that come from?

602
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.480
It does feel like they've unlearnt a few lessons.

603
00:35:24.539 --> 00:35:25.380
Yeah, yeah.

604
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.539
Or actually, because it's a different writing team.

605
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:29.039
They've never learned.

606
00:35:29.099 --> 00:35:29.940
They never know that.

607
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:30.300
Yeah.

608
00:35:30.300 --> 00:35:30.539
Yeah.

609
00:35:30.900 --> 00:35:31.920
Yeah.

610
00:35:31.980 --> 00:35:34.500
I mean this, this is the Armageddon factor.

611
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.860
It's just walking around this room talking to this computer. computer.

612
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:38.460
Yeah, yeah.

613
00:35:38.579 --> 00:35:40.260
With the Spangley lights on it.

614
00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:48.179
Yeah, but you know, we are fans of the cheap tat Doctor Who, so we don't mind too much of Star Trek's leaning into it a little bit.

615
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:52.500
Yeah, although this is a big, you know, this isn't a terrible sand.

616
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:58.500
I think that computer is like not as good as Nomad, but I think the walls are quite nice.

617
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.260
Jesus, good as no, come on. you know.

618
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:06.179
If that space station was holed up on a wobbly string, I would have been delighted.

619
00:36:06.179 --> 00:36:07.440
And Sam had played nomad.

620
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:16.440
The thing is, though, the big difference is Doctor Who's greatest strength is it's very witty.

621
00:36:16.500 --> 00:36:18.420
Yeah, it's a very funny show.

622
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.780
Whereas I'm not sure enterprise, I've learned a lesson.

623
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:27.900
I can think of a few scenarios, you know, like, would you remember when in a night in Sick Bay, we had those bats flying about the place?

624
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:31.380
We was laughing at that, but it wasn't really the acting or the right.

625
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:32.940
It was just a scenario, wasn't it?

626
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.880
Oh, no, I mean, I think that a night in Sick Bay is genuinely funny.

627
00:36:35.940 --> 00:36:37.679
Like, and I think it's trying to be.

628
00:36:37.739 --> 00:36:39.239
Like, I think it's actually pretty good.

629
00:36:39.300 --> 00:36:48.539
And that scene is pretty good because it's to middle-aged man being absolute dipshits and then, you know, Hoshi walks in and catches the bat, like plucks it out of the air.

630
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:53.039
Like, I think there's genuine, like there are funny things happening there.

631
00:36:53.579 --> 00:36:54.360
It's very hot though.

632
00:36:54.420 --> 00:37:00.539
It's very hard to do a comedy in season 3 where suddenly at the Enterprise crew or a bunch of terrorists, you know?

633
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.880
Yeah, find a comedy in that scenario.

634
00:37:02.940 --> 00:37:03.599
It's quite hard.

635
00:37:03.659 --> 00:37:06.480
But they do try and do and I can't wait till we roll it.

636
00:37:06.539 --> 00:37:08.280
Jammer gives it 0 stars.

637
00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:24.719
An episode called Precious Cargo, and it's supposed to be like, you know, like an old-fashioned screwball comedy with 2 romantic leads that it's guest alien of the week and trip down on the planet, but they pull in some dreadful model that's never acted before.

638
00:37:24.780 --> 00:37:27.539
And so none of the comedy lands.

639
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:31.980
It's a like textbook how not to do comedy television.

640
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.639
So like Sam K. Yanson, no, the perfect mate.

641
00:37:35.699 --> 00:37:36.659
Is that what it's called?

642
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:37.079
Yeah.

643
00:37:37.139 --> 00:37:38.699
Fine inferior to that.

644
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:39.780
Okay.

645
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:46.380
So again, you know, you have 2 of the best actors on the show, I think Hoshi does a great job here.

646
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:53.699
You know, I love the bit where Billingsley says, you know, he's 26 is too young to be on this table.

647
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:55.019
I thought that was a good line.

648
00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:07.920
I mean, this this scene about the hilarious prank that Travis played on her, which is just not funny in any way, just kind of...

649
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.139
It was only strawberry gelatin, Nathan.

650
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:11.219
You just think, what?

651
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.719
So why was that funny?

652
00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:15.059
Like, 0 my god, and she's...

653
00:38:15.059 --> 00:38:17.400
You remember what we heard about the Sonic shower with the chilli sauce?

654
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:18.360
That was funny.

655
00:38:18.420 --> 00:38:19.860
Yeah, that was funny.

656
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.199
But she's doing really well.

657
00:38:22.260 --> 00:38:24.119
Like, he's doing really well.

658
00:38:24.179 --> 00:38:25.019
I love.

659
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:38.159
I do love him saying to her, you know, this is going to be hard for you to see because you've seen dead bodies, but not of someone that you know, and I thought that was really nice and sort of humane.

660
00:38:38.219 --> 00:38:39.480
Like, he's great.

661
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.320
Why do they ever do this with the regulars?

662
00:38:43.380 --> 00:38:45.119
It's never going to convince, right?

663
00:38:45.179 --> 00:38:54.780
And it means that our regulars that are left alive have to go through these hoops of sort of pretending to us, but they're really sad.

664
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:56.699
And we do it a lot, right?

665
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:58.260
There's a lot of it in 90s trek.

666
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.079
Yeah, it isn't, it generally doesn't work, does it?

667
00:39:01.139 --> 00:39:04.019
I mean, Paul Hoshi and Vanishing Point, you know?

668
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:05.340
That was terrible.

669
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.239
I wonder what part of Travis they were going to send home to his family, you know?

670
00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:12.420
We've extracted some snot from his nose.

671
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.539
We put it in a little device and posted it to you.

672
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:22.199
Well, in fact, there is a line here saying that because they live on a cargo ship or something we're not able to contact them.

673
00:39:22.260 --> 00:39:28.260
So fortunately, we weren't put through that just utterly butt clenchingly embarrassing.

674
00:39:28.260 --> 00:39:29.400
No, inadvertently funny.

675
00:39:29.460 --> 00:39:29.880
Come on.

676
00:39:29.940 --> 00:39:31.920
So you're saying she's dead?

677
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:34.260
Well, it's very out here in space.

678
00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:35.400
Is she dead?

679
00:39:35.460 --> 00:39:36.360
Is she dead?

680
00:39:36.420 --> 00:39:38.760
Well, so she went on to the spot.

681
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:43.619
Right, yes. to the fucking point. so bad.

682
00:39:43.739 --> 00:39:45.780
That was so inept.

683
00:39:45.900 --> 00:39:48.420
Do we ever meet Travis's parents?

684
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:49.679
I bet they're hot as hell.

685
00:39:49.739 --> 00:39:50.579
Why don't we meet them?

686
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:56.880
There is an episode, isn't there with him in it, like a boomer centric episode.

687
00:39:56.940 --> 00:39:58.440
Isn't there?

688
00:39:58.860 --> 00:39:59.280
Singular.

689
00:39:59.340 --> 00:40:00.119
Yeah, yeah.

690
00:40:00.179 --> 00:40:01.320
He gets a focus episode.

691
00:40:01.380 --> 00:40:02.760
My God.

692
00:40:02.820 --> 00:40:04.320
Brannanham.

693
00:40:05.460 --> 00:40:06.599
Oh god, I forgot his name.

694
00:40:06.659 --> 00:40:07.079
Rick.

695
00:40:07.139 --> 00:40:08.880
They must have taken their eye on the ball that week.

696
00:40:08.940 --> 00:40:09.900
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

697
00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:15.719
Yes, again, so this scene is also very boring and, you know, this is what I was just saying.

698
00:40:15.780 --> 00:40:20.460
They can't catch his parents and so we don't have to have that scene, then what's happening?

699
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:21.599
Everyone's very solid.

700
00:40:21.659 --> 00:40:23.400
How am I going to tell them?

701
00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:26.519
Which part of the your son is dead speech?

702
00:40:26.579 --> 00:40:27.420
Will I do this time?

703
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:28.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

704
00:40:28.739 --> 00:40:29.280
Yeah.

705
00:40:29.340 --> 00:40:31.860
Space is complex and very big.

706
00:40:32.579 --> 00:40:35.039
Oh, what a surprise.

707
00:40:35.099 --> 00:40:35.880
This is not.

708
00:40:35.940 --> 00:40:37.199
Ensign Mayweather.

709
00:40:37.260 --> 00:40:39.599
I don't do it to us for too long.

710
00:40:39.659 --> 00:40:45.900
And they don't go out on a cliffhanger into, you know, Yeah, yeah. credits with it.

711
00:40:46.019 --> 00:40:50.280
And I do like, I actually like how he discovers it.

712
00:40:50.340 --> 00:40:51.599
I thought that was pretty good.

713
00:40:51.659 --> 00:40:54.900
So he has to sell it though, can't he?

714
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:56.699
Yeah, yeah. that's right.

715
00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:01.139
But there was a there was a little visual that sort of explained it as well.

716
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:09.420
And, uh, you know, like it made sense that they can create dead things but not living things.

717
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:14.639
And so the way that we know that it's not travesties because everyone was given that inoculation.

718
00:41:14.699 --> 00:41:27.960
And because it was an inoculation that came from Dr. Flox, it was full of little living microorganisms because Dr. Flox is a weirdo who already lost a regular bloodworm in Malcolm's leg earlier in the episode.

719
00:41:28.380 --> 00:41:30.719
And so, and so all of that stuff works.

720
00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:35.159
It's like actually quite a good techno babble story and he sells it with these visuals and stuff.

721
00:41:35.219 --> 00:41:36.900
I thought that was pretty good.

722
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.199
I feel like you've may have ruined Dr. Flock's for me though.

723
00:41:40.260 --> 00:41:51.539
Ever since, you know, you put him in a 1970s porn movie with his bizarre sort of very loose clothing that he wears over his ample frame.

724
00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:56.340
Now, look, he's in that sort of rubber gear there doing the autopsy or whatever it is.

725
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.619
I mean, I can just see him in some dungeon right now.

726
00:41:59.340 --> 00:42:02.340
With his many wives and co-husbands.

727
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:08.699
But that's what I like about him because he's a bit older, I think, you know, like everyone's sort of kind of young on the crew.

728
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:15.539
He's a little bit older and so he reads us from the 1970s and, you know, like he's just a little bit of a swinger.

729
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:16.380
I think he's great.

730
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.460
It's a sort of 60, 70s vibe about what he wears that I think is really good.

731
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:26.340
Where everybody else is so bug up, but he's so relaxed and scenes, isn't he?

732
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:28.260
He's got the experience of the ages.

733
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.480
Yeah, yeah, he's humane and warm.

734
00:42:30.539 --> 00:42:33.480
He's got a perspective, doesn't he?

735
00:42:33.539 --> 00:42:33.840
over the years?

736
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:35.340
Being cute.

737
00:42:35.340 --> 00:42:36.239
Oh, not always.

738
00:42:36.300 --> 00:42:40.559
I was about to say, it comes with, you know, over the years you learn to be humane, but that's not always the case.

739
00:42:40.619 --> 00:42:41.760
Yeah, no.

740
00:42:42.539 --> 00:42:45.179
Just look out the window right now.

741
00:42:45.420 --> 00:42:50.940
And then again, we could, you know, like this could be more capery.

742
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:55.920
It's actually a little bit boring, like you can see where they're what they're going for.

743
00:42:55.980 --> 00:42:56.880
Do you know what I mean?

744
00:42:56.940 --> 00:42:58.500
He's pushing the big thing.

745
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:07.739
He has to push it onto a, onto a, you know, like a panel or whatever. swing the camera around, you know, a little faster than they usually do.

746
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.239
But like the mid shot, when he came in, to that set, just pushing the thing in.

747
00:43:12.300 --> 00:43:13.500
Like, you know, dinner's ready.

748
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:14.760
It's very boring.

749
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:18.000
Do you remember batter, bing, batter, bang?

750
00:43:18.059 --> 00:43:20.340
The camera was all about the place, you know?

751
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.099
Yeah, but I think she's doing a pretty good job.

752
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:28.679
Like I kind of like that little close-up of the of the panel.

753
00:43:28.739 --> 00:43:46.679
I remember Laval's direction in Dreadnaught, though. and I don't always rate Lavar as a director, but he really got the, he got the assignment there perfectly, and he is zooming around those where, where she's in a series of panic at the end.

754
00:43:46.739 --> 00:43:50.519
She trying to outwit herself, this great bomb that's going to go off.

755
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:54.300
And he sort of expresses the chaos in the direction.

756
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:59.219
Whereas she's sort of expressing mild. panic.

757
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:00.539
I think she does very well.

758
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:02.039
They're less interesting.

759
00:44:02.099 --> 00:44:08.219
I mean, it's more interesting than Enterprise often is, I think. certainly more interesting than minefield.

760
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:09.780
Yeah, oh, yeah.

761
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:10.679
No, that was terribly boring.

762
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:14.940
Look at how beautifully he's lit there in that white room trip.

763
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:15.780
You know?

764
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.539
It's like he's got one of those wonderful selfie lights in his face.

765
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:19.440
Yeah, yeah.

766
00:44:19.500 --> 00:44:20.519
No, he's good looking.

767
00:44:20.579 --> 00:44:21.900
He's a good looking man.

768
00:44:22.019 --> 00:44:26.400
And actually, these are quite boring looking tunnels that they're going down though, aren't they?

769
00:44:26.460 --> 00:44:29.099
Well, they're kind of sort of Jeffrey's tubes, aren't they?

770
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:35.699
I guess the lighting, the grid lighting, but again, we had so much of that in Deep Space 9 over the years, didn't we, over 7 years?

771
00:44:36.420 --> 00:44:44.340
It reminds me of the sort of tunnels, we went down with Cisco, Edington, and Rebecca in that episode.

772
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:46.920
Happy times.

773
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.400
Leave me, leave me.

774
00:44:50.460 --> 00:44:51.780
She didn't make it.

775
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:56.400
More fun than this.

776
00:44:56.460 --> 00:44:58.559
Oh, yeah, for God's sake.

777
00:44:58.619 --> 00:45:04.199
I would be reluctant to go through that thing that Iris...

778
00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:07.739
That's the 2nd time he's been, he's been crawling along the bridge floor.

779
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:09.480
Why are we not making this funny?

780
00:45:09.539 --> 00:45:14.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah. intended to be. is clearly intended to be.

781
00:45:14.099 --> 00:45:16.079
It just looks a bit awkward.

782
00:45:16.139 --> 00:45:17.280
Oh, how did I get here?

783
00:45:17.340 --> 00:45:19.199
Oh yes, it happened earlier, didn't it?

784
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.019
It's okay if you're a little bit knowing, you know?

785
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:26.039
Yeah.

786
00:45:26.099 --> 00:45:30.840
So the warp plasma is sort of going to go up, is it?

787
00:45:30.900 --> 00:45:31.739
It's going to explode.

788
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:32.760
Is that what's happening?

789
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:36.480
Yeah, if you say so, I mean, it does all end in a big bang.

790
00:45:36.539 --> 00:45:38.940
Yeah, yeah, I think it's the warp plasma that does it.

791
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:41.579
I mean, that's kind of what we wanted at the end, right?

792
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:45.059
And then and then we get your ridiculous.

793
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.400
I love...

794
00:45:47.460 --> 00:45:49.260
I love the ending so much.

795
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.260
It's exactly perfectly right. voiceover.

796
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:54.059
No, no, no, it's perfect.

797
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:57.840
Again, another Doctor Who referenced the end of evil of the Daleks, right?

798
00:45:57.900 --> 00:46:03.900
It has to, like, every episode of season one of the X-Files ended that way.

799
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:05.519
Evil has been defeated.

800
00:46:05.579 --> 00:46:07.559
Oh, no way. somehow it's still alive.

801
00:46:07.619 --> 00:46:11.760
The central processing computer building is alive again, you know.

802
00:46:11.820 --> 00:46:13.559
Okay, so here we are.

803
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:14.159
Good shot.

804
00:46:14.219 --> 00:46:16.860
That's a good shot coming in and seeing all these corpses hanging on.

805
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:17.699
I think so too.

806
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.739
I think it's good and the set is quite good.

807
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:23.639
Like it's, you know, like it's, and it's a bit gruesome.

808
00:46:23.699 --> 00:46:27.059
It's like the things hanging from the ceiling in prey or whatever.

809
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:29.099
There's a lot of them as well.

810
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:33.119
I don't know if they're sort of computer repeated on the on the page.

811
00:46:33.179 --> 00:46:38.519
I do think it might have been more interesting if it was still white, though, and you really pick them out against the white.

812
00:46:38.579 --> 00:46:41.760
Yeah, but I think what they've done, do you know what I mean?

813
00:46:41.820 --> 00:46:49.860
They're doing the thing where the facade is this very pleasant and welcoming environment designed.

814
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:51.539
Yeah, yeah. that's right.

815
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:55.500
Yeah, exactly. everyone's being tortured beyond the scenes to make you happy.

816
00:46:55.619 --> 00:46:57.239
So there's a Klingon there.

817
00:46:57.300 --> 00:47:02.460
Oh, and they have neurological damage so that we can leave them behind.

818
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.340
So we don't have to bother freeing them or we can just blow the thing up.

819
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:10.260
So they've been, uh, you know, hooked up to the computer for so long that there.

820
00:47:10.260 --> 00:47:13.320
I think some of those people probably could have come in quite useful, you know.

821
00:47:13.380 --> 00:47:13.980
It could have been great.

822
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:18.300
And then we could have used them all as sort of processing power for enterprise.

823
00:47:19.139 --> 00:47:22.079
Instead of the gel packs.

824
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:23.579
I'll say, look.

825
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:26.039
Look, Travis, into the computer core.

826
00:47:26.099 --> 00:47:29.880
Take his top off because you don't need that anymore and just hook him up.

827
00:47:32.940 --> 00:47:35.460
Oh, fuck, do you see all that liquid going everywhere?

828
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.800
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

829
00:47:37.860 --> 00:47:38.039
Yeah.

830
00:47:38.099 --> 00:47:39.300
Like, what is it?

831
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.139
It's like strawberry. like it's like ribena.

832
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.300
Oh, I fucking love this.

833
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:50.219
The great mechanical arms, grab hold of the sourcer section to say, nope, you ain't going nowhere, mate.

834
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:51.780
It's really good, isn't it?

835
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:52.800
I think it's really great.

836
00:47:52.860 --> 00:48:04.079
And I actually think that the action where he's firing torpedoes at the at the thing and it doesn't break entirely and then when he flies off and there's still an arm attached to the Enterprise source section.

837
00:48:04.139 --> 00:48:06.300
Like, I think that's all pretty great, you know?

838
00:48:06.300 --> 00:48:13.260
I feel like that could have been a sequel here, you know, with the great repair station seeking its revenge once it's repaired.

839
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.480
You took away all my processing power.

840
00:48:15.539 --> 00:48:15.840
Right.

841
00:48:15.900 --> 00:48:17.099
Then you know how it works.

842
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:18.539
I bargain for a bargain.

843
00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:21.179
Now I'm going to kill all your crew. wonderful.

844
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:22.800
Yeah, I don't know.

845
00:48:22.860 --> 00:48:26.400
We can voice it by Jeffrey Combs playing the evil computer, you know?

846
00:48:26.460 --> 00:48:28.920
Again, or before.

847
00:48:28.980 --> 00:48:31.320
Oh, Nathan, rocks all over the white floor.

848
00:48:31.380 --> 00:48:32.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

849
00:48:32.940 --> 00:48:33.300
Yeah.

850
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:34.139
It's a thing.

851
00:48:34.260 --> 00:48:36.719
What do you think, do you think there's like a rock wrangler or something?

852
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:46.679
As I think I've said before, there is a name for those rocks and they're given, there's a reason why they exist in a lower decks episode.

853
00:48:46.739 --> 00:48:49.619
Someone explains why the bulkheads are packed with rocks.

854
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:54.239
Do they explain why they keep putting them in the console, so, and blowing people's heads?

855
00:48:54.300 --> 00:48:58.199
Yeah, everything's packed with rocks to dampen the subspace.

856
00:48:58.260 --> 00:49:00.719
I think it's just because there's always someone annoying in the crew.

857
00:49:00.780 --> 00:49:04.739
So there's one console where they were like, right, he's really irritated today, isn't it?

858
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:06.300
going into a dangerous situation.

859
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:08.039
Put them in the...

860
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:09.420
Knives and rocks in this one.

861
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:10.199
Acid.

862
00:49:11.219 --> 00:49:18.480
Put him in the death console. that's right Oh, dear, dear.

863
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:20.039
Okay.

864
00:49:20.099 --> 00:49:23.579
Yes, see, that was a very boring shot of the war plasma.

865
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.519
Just a boring mid-shot.

866
00:49:26.579 --> 00:49:29.039
Whereas it should be so dynamic.

867
00:49:29.099 --> 00:49:30.840
The thing's about to blow up the concept.

868
00:49:30.900 --> 00:49:31.739
Yeah, yeah.

869
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.739
Well, that, I mean, the explosion going down, the corridor was pretty great.

870
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:36.420
You know, it's something.

871
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:38.159
Oh, look out to Paul.

872
00:49:38.219 --> 00:49:39.059
Yeah, we did good.

873
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:39.539
Yeah.

874
00:49:40.739 --> 00:49:47.039
You know what's weird, though, is we haven't even get to see Hoshi happy that Mayweather's alive.

875
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:48.840
I don't get a scene together.

876
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:54.059
No, because none of that matters because it's just those secondary characters who we don't care about.

877
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:59.280
And all we're interested in is the space people shouting things about their consoles and stuff.

878
00:49:59.340 --> 00:50:00.719
I've got it.

879
00:50:00.780 --> 00:50:03.119
I know how we can tie it in, right?

880
00:50:03.179 --> 00:50:05.579
The conclusion of the episode could have been written.

881
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:10.619
So Travis is instrumental in the destruction of this thing.

882
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:15.659
And as they fly away, Hoshi's like, oh, look at what are your practical jokes again?

883
00:50:15.659 --> 00:50:17.760
For God's sake, we're going to stay.

884
00:50:19.380 --> 00:50:22.739
That would have been the red dwarf version of it.

885
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:23.579
Exactly.

886
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:24.599
Exactly.

887
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:29.099
I bet I mean, this is all quite fun.

888
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:30.239
This is agreeable enough.

889
00:50:30.300 --> 00:50:32.519
This is sort of some space action.

890
00:50:32.579 --> 00:50:33.300
I'm here for that.

891
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:34.739
I like torpedo.

892
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:37.860
They've sort of put some dirt all over their face. haven't they?

893
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:38.760
They all look a bit rough now.

894
00:50:38.820 --> 00:50:40.559
Sweaty and rough.

895
00:50:40.619 --> 00:50:44.699
Except Jolene, of course, he still looks absolutely stunning.

896
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:46.079
Yeah there we go.

897
00:50:46.139 --> 00:50:49.199
Do you want us to apply dirt to Jolene?

898
00:50:49.260 --> 00:50:49.500
No.

899
00:50:49.980 --> 00:50:52.260
No, you come on, she's a lady.

900
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:56.880
You learn our lesson in coarse oblivion, you know, when we slap latex all over Jerry Ryan.

901
00:50:56.940 --> 00:50:59.219
Oh my goodness, it looks so good.

902
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:00.719
It does look pretty great.

903
00:51:00.780 --> 00:51:02.880
It sort of goes up like a load of fireworks.

904
00:51:02.940 --> 00:51:03.599
Did you?

905
00:51:03.659 --> 00:51:05.280
Yeah, it's awesome. pretty good.

906
00:51:05.340 --> 00:51:08.579
Oh, Jolene, why did they put you in that costume?

907
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:09.960
Oh my word.

908
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:14.639
Wow, I know exactly why they put Travis in that costume.

909
00:51:15.179 --> 00:51:19.920
Oh, actually, I can't object to far on the one hand and criticise on the other.

910
00:51:19.980 --> 00:51:20.219
Can I?

911
00:51:20.340 --> 00:51:21.420
Yeah, you can.

912
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:22.559
Okay.

913
00:51:22.619 --> 00:51:26.039
But he is wearing a lot of, like, lip gloss, isn't he, in that scene?

914
00:51:26.099 --> 00:51:30.719
Wow, yes, oh, is it another practical joke?

915
00:51:30.780 --> 00:51:32.460
What's he doing with that bit gloss?

916
00:51:32.940 --> 00:51:35.820
Oh, it's got a diuretic in it.

917
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:41.099
He's going around kissing because look at him. everyone's going to kiss him. to go around kissing all the men and women.

918
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.320
No one's going on ship tomorrow.

919
00:51:43.380 --> 00:51:44.519
Look at that.

920
00:51:44.579 --> 00:51:46.980
Look how much look how much makeup he has on.

921
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:48.300
I don't know what they do.

922
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.219
It's so strange.

923
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:51.659
Yeah.

924
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:53.280
I mean, he's got natural beauty.

925
00:51:53.340 --> 00:51:54.000
He doesn't need help.

926
00:51:54.059 --> 00:51:57.239
No, no, but it is, I don't know what.

927
00:51:57.300 --> 00:51:59.340
I mean, Billingsley's got quite a lot of makeup on as well.

928
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:00.239
It does too.

929
00:52:00.300 --> 00:52:03.239
But, you know, I don't mean to be rude, but he needs the help.

930
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:06.960
But, you know, Bakula needs the help.

931
00:52:07.019 --> 00:52:08.099
I don't think that...

932
00:52:08.099 --> 00:52:13.679
That killer needs so much help in this.

933
00:52:13.739 --> 00:52:15.480
It just wasn't getting it, wasn't it?

934
00:52:15.539 --> 00:52:16.800
Oh, dear.

935
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:18.539
When can I have my helms and back?

936
00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:21.659
When's he coming back to work after all, now that he's not dead?

937
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:22.619
No, look at the joke.

938
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:24.119
Come for breakfast.

939
00:52:24.179 --> 00:52:27.539
Chefs poached eggs are waiting for you.

940
00:52:28.860 --> 00:52:30.960
Oh thank goodness.

941
00:52:31.019 --> 00:52:32.699
I promise I won't cancel it.

942
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:34.139
It's in my Outlook calendar.

943
00:52:35.460 --> 00:52:37.559
Oh, dear.

944
00:52:37.619 --> 00:52:40.440
That was the highlight of my year, captain.

945
00:52:40.500 --> 00:52:42.539
I couldn't have died without having breakfast with you.

946
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:47.039
And then this, like the final scene is really, that's pretty good.

947
00:52:47.099 --> 00:52:49.559
That is really good with it repairing itself.

948
00:52:49.619 --> 00:52:51.239
Well, just a little bit of, you want to say?

949
00:52:55.019 --> 00:53:04.440
Well, I mean, we mostly had fun with that by comparing it to other worse episodes. better episodes of Star Trek, actually.

950
00:53:05.219 --> 00:53:12.780
But like, you know, on the scale of enterprise, which is a different scale to all other Star Trek shows.

951
00:53:12.900 --> 00:53:18.239
I mean, I'd put that as a one BEM, at least, over half, a 2.5 .

952
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:20.820
Germa gave it 3 stars out of four.

953
00:53:20.940 --> 00:53:23.340
BM 2.5 stars.

954
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:26.039
I think it was reasonably agreeable.

955
00:53:26.099 --> 00:53:30.539
It isn't a night in Sick Bay, but so little of enterprise is.

956
00:53:32.099 --> 00:53:34.500
I should watch that after this.

957
00:53:36.179 --> 00:53:38.039
So much fun.

958
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:46.619
But what I will say is, it's nice to see that they can tread some new paths.

959
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:49.559
Yeah, we did say that about the 1st half.

960
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:55.739
And even though they just can't get their heads out of 90s trek mode, can they?

961
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:02.159
They just can't think to end the episode in a especially witty or exciting way.

962
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:06.179
Blow it up.

963
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:07.860
Leave the corpses there.

964
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:10.440
Let's go, you know, very TNG season one.

965
00:54:10.500 --> 00:54:11.699
We've been doing this a long time now.

966
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:15.119
Yeah, like on Enterprises terms, agreeable.

967
00:54:15.179 --> 00:54:16.860
Not a chore.

968
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:18.300
Yeah, not a chore.

969
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:23.039
Interesting location, interesting sort of major concept, a nice bit of serialisation.

970
00:54:23.099 --> 00:54:41.880
There was a lot of just hang time with the crew, and, you know, there's a sense in which what is successful with enterprise is that it takes us away from the 24th century for the 1st time since, you know, original track, and it allows us to see a different type of travelling through space.

971
00:54:41.940 --> 00:54:43.679
And I always like that detail.

972
00:54:43.739 --> 00:54:44.639
Like, I like that.

973
00:54:44.699 --> 00:54:52.019
It was what attracted me to Star Trek the Next Generation, where now we're in the 24th century and the technology's new, everything's new.

974
00:54:52.019 --> 00:54:59.159
And, you know, we're getting a new type of 22nd century Star Trek, which I think is fun to spend time with.

975
00:54:59.219 --> 00:55:01.199
Like, I didn't hate it at all.

976
00:55:01.260 --> 00:55:07.440
But it has the usual problems that enterprise has, I think, inoffensive.

977
00:55:07.500 --> 00:55:08.280
Yeah.

978
00:55:08.340 --> 00:55:09.059
Yeah, I thought so.

979
00:55:09.179 --> 00:55:11.940
It's a fucking miracle for enterprise.

980
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:26.639
All right, it's the end of the episode and it's time for us to work out where we're going next time.

981
00:55:26.699 --> 00:55:34.199
This is my choice, as always, and so it's your turn on the randomiser now, Joe, where are we going?

982
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:39.539
Yeah, it's sort of now we're bleeding away a bit of interest in 90s trek.

983
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:41.460
But I'm going to keep it in the mix.

984
00:55:41.460 --> 00:55:46.320
Since you went for your cliche, let's go back to Star Trek Enterprise.

985
00:55:46.380 --> 00:55:47.940
I'll go to my cliche.

986
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:51.480
Let's throw it all in the pot, all of it, and see what we get, you know?

987
00:55:51.539 --> 00:55:55.019
All right. 60 years of Star Trek in the palm of my hand.

988
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:56.340
Excellent.

989
00:55:57.659 --> 00:56:00.119
But probably 90s track.

990
00:56:00.179 --> 00:56:02.280
Oh, shit in hell.

991
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:06.900
Oh, we've got through it.

992
00:56:07.019 --> 00:56:08.039
We've got to do it.

993
00:56:08.099 --> 00:56:13.079
Your random start just very rare we do the 1st row, is it?

994
00:56:13.139 --> 00:56:17.219
Yeah, sometimes though, sometimes it happens, sometimes something's compelling.

995
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:21.480
It's considered one of the worst episodes of Voyager of all time.

996
00:56:21.539 --> 00:56:22.980
We've got to.

997
00:56:23.099 --> 00:56:23.880
Is it twisted?

998
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:29.940
Season two, episode six, twisted.

999
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:31.079
Yes.

1000
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:33.360
Oh, God.

1001
00:56:33.420 --> 00:56:35.880
I think we'll probably find things to enjoy in it, you know.

1002
00:56:35.940 --> 00:56:38.039
It's a lot of hang time with the characters.

1003
00:56:38.099 --> 00:56:46.139
It's a lot of hang time with the characters, and of course, as usual, we can talk about other better, more interesting episodes of Star Trek to pass the time as well.

1004
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:50.099
So there's that possibility. the episode that's so bad.

1005
00:56:50.159 --> 00:57:00.119
Yeah, that they said there is no way we can put out this boring bottle show at the end of season one, our opening year of Voyager.

1006
00:57:00.179 --> 00:57:02.940
So we'll shove it in with the 4 episodes.

1007
00:57:02.940 --> 00:57:06.900
We're kicking it into season 2 because nobody's going to want to come back.

1008
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:13.019
No, no, the finale was going to be... the 37s originally.

1009
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:13.320
Yeah.

1010
00:57:13.380 --> 00:57:30.420
But there was 4 episodes, wasn't it, that they carried over to season 2 and they made, and this is understandably one of them, where you might think before the end of season one, they are run out of ideas as everyone stands around the ship as a wave of who knows what?

1011
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:35.519
slowly go through the ship and rearranges it, right?

1012
00:57:35.579 --> 00:57:37.800
It's just like weird corridors and stuff.

1013
00:57:37.860 --> 00:57:38.579
Is that the threat?

1014
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:41.340
I can barely. whipply-wobbly effect, you know?

1015
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:46.679
Oh, I think it's got like it's the height of Neelix, Tom Paris jealousy as well.

1016
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:47.820
Oh yuck.

1017
00:57:47.940 --> 00:57:50.280
Yeah, but it's worth talking about though, isn't it, right?

1018
00:57:50.340 --> 00:57:55.079
Because we're very nice about an ilix, but it's worth saying, think how an awful I was.

1019
00:57:55.139 --> 00:57:56.099
So charming.

1020
00:57:56.159 --> 00:57:57.300
No, that's true.

1021
00:57:57.360 --> 00:57:59.280
I'm sure Janeway wants a coffee.

1022
00:57:59.340 --> 00:58:00.840
That's generally what she wants to do.

1023
00:58:00.900 --> 00:58:01.920
That'll be one and two.

1024
00:58:02.099 --> 00:58:08.039
And oh, Roxanne will be really angry because that's generally what she did in season one and two.

1025
00:58:08.099 --> 00:58:08.460
Yeah.

1026
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:10.380
What's your rest, Robert?

1027
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:13.679
Uh, the worst, Robert?

1028
00:58:13.739 --> 00:58:15.480
Oh, he's part of the jealousy plot, obviously.

1029
00:58:15.539 --> 00:58:23.579
The best Robert will be being excellent, but he'll probably only get a scene and the other Robert, the mid Robert.

1030
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:25.139
This is when he's quite good.

1031
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:26.340
Yeah, okay.

1032
00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:26.760
Yeah, yeah.

1033
00:58:26.820 --> 00:58:30.300
I'm a big fan of the medium, Robert, early on, I think he is pretty good.

1034
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:31.019
He is pretty good.

1035
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:42.659
It'd be just interesting to hang with those people at that point late one early too, wherever you want to put it, and just see what they're up to. as they're kicking in.

1036
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:46.800
Yeah. with a really the boringest anomaly of all time.

1037
00:58:48.179 --> 00:58:51.780
Oh, let's get our knickers in a twist, shall we?

1038
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.000
Oh, sure.

1039
00:59:01.139 --> 00:59:12.719
You've been listening to entitled Star Trek Project with Joe Ford and Nathan Bottomley, where online at untitled Star Trek Project.com, where you can find subscription links and links to our social media accounts.

1040
00:59:12.780 --> 00:59:18.480
Our podcast artwork is by Kayla Ciceran, and the theme was composed by Cameron Lahn.

1041
00:59:18.539 --> 00:59:24.659
This episode was recorded on the 26th of May 2026 and released on the 29th of May.

1042
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:28.500
We'll see you next time for Star Trek Voyager, Twisted.

1043
00:59:46.619 --> 00:59:47.940
Oh, twisted.

1044
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:51.059
Well, you mentioned twisted before we started recording.

1045
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:53.880
Like, I think that you mentioned it.

1046
00:59:53.940 --> 00:59:56.219
Well, what's what we would have got next.

1047
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:57.300
Prodigy.

1048
00:59:57.300 --> 00:59:58.679
Masquerade.

1049
00:59:58.739 --> 01:00:00.719
I don't know what it is, but it's better than Twisted.

1050
01:00:00.780 --> 01:00:02.940
No, I don't know what it is either. season two?

1051
01:00:03.059 --> 01:00:05.340
Oh, no, we actually we were lucky.

1052
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:06.119
We had a capt going.

1053
01:00:06.179 --> 01:00:09.000
It would have been the animated series episode Albatross.

1054
01:00:09.059 --> 01:00:12.420
Do you know I might pick the animated series next?

1055
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.360
How long has it been since we did one?

1056
01:00:16.260 --> 01:00:18.480
A while, I'm sure.

1057
01:00:18.539 --> 01:00:19.860
I reckon it has.

1058
01:00:24.179 --> 01:00:26.579
Yeah, oh, anyway.

1059
01:00:26.699 --> 01:00:31.619
What sort of algorithm have you got going on in this randomiser?

1060
01:00:31.619 --> 01:00:33.480
60 years of Star Trek to choose from.

1061
01:00:33.539 --> 01:00:36.000
The 1st thing it hands me is twisted.

1062
01:00:36.059 --> 01:00:36.900
Twisted?

1063
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:38.039
Yeah, yeah.

1064
01:00:38.099 --> 01:00:39.960
I think the visitor was a 1st choice.

1065
01:00:40.019 --> 01:00:42.480
I think we chose to visit a certain...

1066
01:00:42.539 --> 01:00:43.920
It was emissary of 1st choice.

1067
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:45.960
No, it was built down, wouldn't it?

1068
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:53.880
Okay, maybe we should we do need to go away from 90s after that then, because that's been like 7 on the bounce or something.

1069
01:00:54.659 --> 01:00:57.719
We're sort of doing the quality range now, aren't we?

1070
01:00:57.780 --> 01:00:58.980
We're sort of getting worse and worse.

1071
01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:00.599
Yeah, yeah.

1072
01:01:00.659 --> 01:01:03.719
Definitely animated series, I think is a possibility.

1073
01:01:03.780 --> 01:01:06.900
Or maybe all of the animated series in the in the mix.

1074
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:10.619
Then I'll think of all... prodigy.

1075
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:12.480
After that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1076
01:01:12.539 --> 01:01:18.059
I might take out Discovery because there's a lot of it and I think all the other ones.

1077
01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:19.679
I just don't feel like we've talked about enough.

1078
01:01:19.739 --> 01:01:24.239
So short tricks, the card, lower decks, prodigy, Strangely World, Starfleet Academy.

1079
01:01:24.300 --> 01:01:26.099
There'll be something interesting in those.

1080
01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:32.639
Starfleet Academy is now the least covered one because we've done 10% of it and we've done 20% of everything else.

1081
01:01:32.699 --> 01:01:33.420
Just choose that then.

1082
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:34.199
I'll just choose that.

1083
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:36.420
Keep going until I get the Jake episode.

1084
01:01:38.460 --> 01:01:40.559
It shouldn't take too long.

1085
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:44.880
Excuse me, you've given me methods now where I can sort of...

1086
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:48.719
There is only one season of Star Lake Academy, though.

1087
01:01:48.780 --> 01:01:49.920
Exactly.

1088
01:01:49.980 --> 01:01:51.420
I've only got to press it 10 times.

1089
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.340
Yeah, well, probably.