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Hey, Joe. Hi.

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So, we are back again in person, recording this extra long episode of Untitled Star Trek Project.

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I had no excuses, did we?

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Not to watch 2 episodes back-to-back given that you're with me for a week.

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That's right, that's right.

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The fact that we've only watched 3 episodes of Star Trek this week is astonishing.

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Well, we've done some Andor, we've done some DVD extras, base precincts, dating naked, obviously.

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Only a 3rd.

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It's a little bit much to take.

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But we are here to watch Stranger Worlds.

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We're watching the series 2 finale and the series 3 opener.

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It's a 2 parter called hegemony and hedgemony part two.

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Glad you clear that up because I keep saying it wrong.

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Hegemony.

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Hegemony.

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There's some ways of saying, you can say hi Germany as well, if you like.

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I probably will.

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Yeah.

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So series 2, episode 10 of Strange New Worlds, and on the 10th of August 2023, and series 3, episode one, didn't air until this year.

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So 17th of July 2025.

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What occurred?

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I think probably the writer strike, but also just, you know, like with Star Trek the Next Generation, it didn't just run like non-stop for 26 weeks.

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It would stop in the middle of a season, go back and do some repeats and stuff.

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And so it was probably just a few months between parts one and 2 of best of both world.

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It was the summer.

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I know that because I remember it was an interminably long summer between fire and whatever the conclusion was.

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Disappointing.

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And it's funny that we should mention best of both worlds because, of course, this is very similar.

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It is their kind of attempt to do best of both worlds.

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We've already had a gone episode, which was series one, episode nine, which we've already covered on untitled Star Trek project, which culminated in the death of Hammer.

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Oh, yeah.

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So good.

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Was that the end of the gore one?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That might be my favourite episode of Strange New World.

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It just got everything, isn't it?

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So this is a little bit different from that.

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The scale is a little bit bigger and there's, you know, more human beings involved, but it is very similar.

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The cliffhanger is a big moment of decision on the bridge and part 2 ends with them ordering the enemy to go to sleep, which is how they defeat them.

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I thought, you know, you and I, we've talked a little bit off mic about comparisons with this and best of both worlds.

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And I think in some ways, It's utterly the reverse of best of both worlds in that, I really think, uh, best of both worlds has got a better 1st episode, and I think Gemini has got a better 2nd episode, the best of both worlds.

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I do think they both have a really lame conclusion.

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The same conclusion at that.

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And now this version is more visually stunning.

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You know, it's it's got more excitement to it in the Best of Way of Wells. just data going, go to sleep. and before all go to sleep, you know?

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But it is similarly.

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Okay, we're in this mortal danger, that threatened the whole of the federation. and then it's just gone.

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Yeah, you know?

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But our 2nd episode is fantastic.

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And just on a production level, what they're doing with Strange New Worlds, it's just out of this world. like it is relentless.

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And I know we're doing the 1st episode first.

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My only issue with that is, and I even think you could sense it from me, somewhere around the middle of the 1st episode, I was sort of sinking into my seat going, where's the going?

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Why aren't they tearing people apart?

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And then suddenly they were sort of trapped in one room and it's supposed to be a really tense, but there's no gaunts at the door.

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No one's battering to come in.

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No one's behaving in a particularly, we're in a tense situation way despite the appearance of viscous amounts of blood all over the walls everywhere.

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Then somewhere in the last 10 minutes, that 1st episode just kicked into gear, like big time.

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And from that point on, I think it's probably sprinting to its conclusion.

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I think the big thing that happens is, of course, the destruction of the Cayuga, which is Marie Battel's ship, and they come upon it.

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So they arrive after it's been destroyed.

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And so then you've got the stuff about where are the survivors of the Cayuga, where are the 1000s of colonists?

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Proper stakes with the crew.

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Yes, it's people that we really care about.

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Christine was on board the Cayuga.

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Just remember because she was being taken to her internship with Roger Corby.

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So she was travelling with Marie and we see her at the beginning.

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And so we have Spock worried about Christine.

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We have the captain worried about Marie.

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And then Laan, Amabunga, they're all... captured by the corn at the end.

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So there's sort of personal stakes everywhere.

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The colonists.

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I don't give a fuck about those people.

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It could be the people of Veridian 4 for all I care about.

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We do see them and I do think that opening with the colony where it is like the backlot and it's a small American town, which is sort of classic Star Trek. you know, if in Star Trek, the Next Generation, you can have the Scottish theme park planet.

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Here we have the American small town colony, which I just think is absolutely adorable.

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And it means those visuals rather than being in various space places in like a diner.

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There's a wonderful scene in the street where they hide it beyond cars. from the gall, so going past.

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It's just something we can relate to.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Rather than stock colony set, number 18.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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But I also think too, that one of the things that Star Trek, Strangely World stars, and I think I come at this is a Doctor Who fan, that Doctor Who is always the thing that you started watching when you were tan, wherever we were up to.

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And so, you know, the answer to the question, I'd like to watch Doctor Who.

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Where should I start is always, well, what's on when you're tan, you know?

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And so Doctor Who doesn't remake stories, but it does redo things for each generation of its audience as it goes through.

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We get classic based under siege in every era.

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Exactly.

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And there's a...

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And I think what Stranger World stars in season three.

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It kind of redoes arena, only with better storytelling, better production value, and perhaps even a better story in some ways.

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We do the holodeck goes wrong episode, which is an episode that's additionally about Star Trek as a franchise and it gives all of our regulars a chance to play different parts, which is fun.

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Not sure they've ever topped our man, Bashir, though, Varmonos.

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Oh, they do borrow the our man Bashir idea of using everyone's transporter pattern to get the regulars into the holodeck simulation.

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But that is less of a holodeck goes wrong and more of a let's have fun with bombs.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Well, this is, I mean, you know, this talks about Star Trek as a show and gets to reflect on the quality of Star Trek and where it comes from and stuff.

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So it's a little bit more, it's got a bit more to it, a bit more going on than previous holodeck goes wrong episodes.

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And I just sort of think that's a thing that Strange New Worlds does, that what it does is really classic Star Trek things.

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It sometimes pushes beyond the boundaries with the musical, for instance, or, um, you know, with next year's puppet show or with the documentary.

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It's a gone episode.

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I mean, I've never seen a horror like it.

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No, no.

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So it does push beyond what Star Trek's done before, but it also redoes the things that Star Trek does because it's still Star Trek and there's a generation of, well, probably not kids for Strange Worlds because it's super violent.

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Oh, they love that stuff.

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What are you talking about?

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Yeah.

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But, you know, like a new audience comes along and this is the sort of thing that a new audience appreciates and understands, and it offers, I think, a sort of path to go back to the old stuff from a point of view of being familiar with what it's like.

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The 2 things I notice most, right?

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When I was comparing this to, God, I have to keep saying best of both worlds.

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Yeah, we'll see abbreviation of that.

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B-O-B-W.

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B-O-B-W.

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Oh, go, I'll try it. is 2 things.

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One was in best of both worlds. is like, you know, the greatest threat to the ship.

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One person may leave, you know?

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In this, it's the whole fucking crew. you know, there's a few people left on the bridge because they've got to sort out the problem.

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But otherwise everybody is in a situation of extreme peril.

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Yeah.

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And that's a huge step up, you know?

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Because in, there's just loads of people standing around in rooms going, what are we going to do about that one person?

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You know, who's in trouble?

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So the stakes just feel much bigger here.

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The 2nd thing is, and it's something we've talked about before.

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It was just the presence of so many amazing women in this show.

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And I was looking at the bridge at the side of my God, there's more women than men there.

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Happy days.

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No wonder this is such a fucking competent ship.

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There's no Tom Paris, Jakotay, you know, getting in the way.

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Like, they wouldn't have dreamt in the day to have given Troy or Beverly Crusher.

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The stuff that they're giving the ladies to do in this two-parter. and it's a shame and you and me have talked this week quite a bit about Star Trek.

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And at one point I just turned around and said, well, they wasted them for 7 years because they could have had, they could have.

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They chose not to because they did with DS9, you know, give the women big, strong, meaty action parts in, you know, tense episodes.

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And they just chose not to do it.

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And the fact that it's just not even a consideration, in part two, um, Erica has literally had a fucking hand half eaten off, and she's there at the bloody console, blood dripping out everywhere from where she's been stabbed, and she's the one that saves the day, and it's just amazing.

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I love seeing just women on top in this show being incredible.

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I realise now that's the other half bar audience got an apologies.

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Star Trek fans.

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Don't like that sort of thing, do they?

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Well, I think it's well past time that it happened.

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And even when we think about Deep Space 9, which probably, well, Deep Space 9 and Voyager both do a passable job of giving women things to do.

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But remember, there's only 2 female regulars in Deep Space 9 and only 3 in Voyager.

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I'll say it again, though.

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I always say there is such an extensive female bee cast in Dear's mind.

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There's always women about.

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Yeah, that's right.

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But here, like I actually really worried for Erica because I was aware that the Gorn kill off hammer.

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They play it like that, and they do.

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She goes, I did good, didn't I?

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Or something like that.

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You're like, 0 my god. that's all right.

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They definitely know what they're doing with the genre.

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And there she goes.

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You're not getting rid of me that easily. like that, it was great.

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And the other thing that this shares with best of both worlds is that it has consequences.

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And best of both worlds mostly clears those up in family, but obviously they're still there in 1st contact.

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I need to clear this up with you, though, before we go in, all right?

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You can tell me about some of the consequences of this, but I've not seen the season ahead, okay?

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So try and tiptoe around the biggest sporters.

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I mean, I'm figuring that we're losing Marie this year.

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I don't know why and I don't know that that's true, but I think we are.

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And there is ongoing stuff with Marie, like she isn't just completely cured and we never speak of it again.

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She's wonderful.

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And she stays on the ship for much of series 3 recovering.

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You're going to play out that relationship.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And she's lost her ship, obviously.

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So she's recuperating on board Enterprise.

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They are Pike's best scenes.

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Where he goes up to her at the end and says, will you just let me hold you, please?

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I was, you know me, hard as a rock.

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And I was holding back tears at that point.

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In fact, she has in the following episode a great scene with him, which is almost the opposite of that, where it's, I'm going through this myself.

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I don't have time to kind of baby you as well, which I just thought was fantastic and very real, like really real.

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I thought both of them did a great job.

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We do need to baby men a lot. that we expected of.

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So like that was really good.

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We discovered the consequences for Erica at the end of the next episode and then that plays into the other big gone episode in this season, which is called terrarium towards the end of the season and there's another great kind of remake of a Star Trek staple.

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So this is important.

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It does have consequences.

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And the other thing that we haven't mentioned is, of course, the introduction of Martin Queen as Scotty takes place.

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Sublime.

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That accent is so sexy.

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And no, wait.

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What's the woman's name with the crazy head?

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Yeah, Pellia.

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Fuck me, she's my favourite character now.

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That crazy accent. she does.

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She's so eccentric, isn't she?

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She don't care how weird she is.

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Pairing them up is all that stuff where she's going to, you know, don't promise nothing.

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And then he comes in, pike.

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And she goes, so, well, get it done.

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Don worry.

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We got it.

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Scott is like, what are you doing?

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I mean, if that's a double act going forward in free.

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They've got... gold.

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Yeah. you know.

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You know the classic Trek double X. They weren't really well, don't they?

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Spock and McCoy, Cork and Odo.

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Too fucking Neelix.

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Sometimes, yeah, sometimes.

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And this looks already the 1st steps out of the gate, that is going to be an absolute classic double act. funny.

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One last thing I wanted to talk about is that I think both best of both worlds and hegemony.

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Okay, I sound pain, but I think I'm there. get wrong. is how they present the danger at the start.

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One comes in before the action hits, and that's hegemony.

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We're on the planet and suddenly there's a huge shadow in the sky and then we cut to the credits and the other one comes in after the colony's been attacked at the start and we just and I do think that's a better one actually because it's so striking, that visual of the entire colony scooped away from the planet.

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No one wants to show the bloody...

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And because I don't think as much money as there is here for Strange New Worlds.

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They still have to choose very carefully where they use because those scorns cannot be cheap to CGI in with political actors.

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I think, though, that you want to hold the big confrontation to the climax.

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And so going around the confrontation at the beginning, because what happens is that Cayuga is attacked, but we don't get to see it.

214
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So while the opening credits are on, I guess, the colony gets attacked and invaded.

215
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The Cayuga is destroyed.

216
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And then when the Enterprise arrives by the time they arrive. takes a while, though.

217
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We're on the Enterprise for about 10 or 15 minutes.

218
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Then we go down to the planet and the Gaunts are on the street.

219
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You see them, but they still don't actually do anything.

220
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So it isn't until that last 10 minutes where I actually felt, okay, people are in genuine danger.

221
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I know people are dead around them and there's, but I thought I need to see characters in some sort of physical danger.

222
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And then I think episode two, like the 2nd episode is pretty relentless.

223
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I never stopped being in danger in that.

224
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Oh, wow, I mean, I suppose we'll be better. watch it.

225
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We was talking about that whole thing.

226
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The beginning, the middle and the end.

227
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And we haven't pressed play yet.

228
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No, I thought let's do that.

229
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Let's do that Okay, I'm ready.

230
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All right.

231
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So then in that case, I will count us in.

232
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Five, four, three, two, one, and we're off.

233
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Here we go.

234
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Yeah, love the item.

235
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I might just get this out of the way now, actually, before we even go in.

236
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I don't want to hurt you, Marie.

237
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You mean more and more to me.

238
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I was just singing that.

239
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I kept hearing it every time she was in danger.

240
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I felt as if they were sort of warning us by saying he cares about it.

241
00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:55.200
Yeah, yeah, that she'd be in trouble.

242
00:16:55.259 --> 00:17:04.980
So we've got a previously we've got a flashback to the um, uh, the series one episode and then after that, as usual, It's just interpersonal.

243
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Lots of character work.

244
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Well, we established Spock and Christine.

245
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We establish, Hammer.

246
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Oh, lots of blood.

247
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Do we see the blue man getting split apart?

248
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we do?

249
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Yeah, there it is.

250
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He falls to the ground.

251
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And the golden puppets.

252
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Oh, lots of explosions.

253
00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:25.140
That was such a...

254
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It's the best.

255
00:17:26.339 --> 00:17:28.019
It's the best Stranger New World episode.

256
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Look at that man being...

257
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Jesus Christ.

258
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Notice that we start with the sun.

259
00:17:34.500 --> 00:17:42.779
And then we pull out to the colony, the planet, you know, a patel going around the thing, but the sun is what solves the problem, remember?

260
00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.000
Well, the sun's how we start the 2nd episode as well.

261
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Yes, but we established the sun at the beginning.

262
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This is just glorious, isn't it?

263
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Like this small town.

264
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It's like a backlot or something and it like flower.

265
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It's just terrific.

266
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Just made idyllic. made to the plate.

267
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Nothing awful happens to these people.

268
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Oh, that child has just had the best haircut ever.

269
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It's a handsome guy in the background.

270
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I refuse to believe that Middle America, even on an alien world, is this happening?

271
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wonderful, isn't it?

272
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I like the thing they've all got secrets on each other.

273
00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:14.880
Oh, look, Christine's with this little girl.

274
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She's giving injection.

275
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There's your shots.

276
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There's the odd space thing.

277
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Like, you know, like that might be for charging the cars or something.

278
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But it's wonderful.

279
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I just think that's a great choice.

280
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It's so much better than just having a space colony.

281
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Do they do space colony sets in strange new worlds?

282
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They don't have stock.

283
00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:36.779
Oh, no, they just use a wall, don't they?

284
00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:37.500
The wall effects.

285
00:18:37.619 --> 00:18:38.940
Yeah, they go down on the planet.

286
00:18:39.059 --> 00:18:40.619
Oh, what a shame.

287
00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.640
I wish I do one before the end, you know, but just show you right, it can be done really, really well.

288
00:18:44.700 --> 00:18:51.539
But having Christine on board the Cayuga raises the steaks and it continues, you know, it means that she is going.

289
00:18:51.539 --> 00:18:55.319
And I think she does tell Spock at some point, you know that I'm still going for 3 months.

290
00:18:55.380 --> 00:19:02.160
Actually, um, now I'm watching episode one again, after an episode two, he does look a bit younger, doesn't he?

291
00:19:02.460 --> 00:19:05.220
Men do tend to age a bit in 2 years.

292
00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:09.839
So they're FaceTiming each other on their iPads at the moment, aren't they?

293
00:19:09.900 --> 00:19:11.039
How are you holding up?

294
00:19:11.099 --> 00:19:12.359
Well, I'm not bursting into that.

295
00:19:13.619 --> 00:19:16.440
I don't want to hurt you, Marie.

296
00:19:16.500 --> 00:19:20.819
I think they do a great job of establishing this relationship.

297
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Look at that.

298
00:19:21.779 --> 00:19:25.319
It looks like the TNG things I used to take down with the suitcases.

299
00:19:25.380 --> 00:19:26.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

300
00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:28.619
No, it's all space luggage.

301
00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:30.299
Spacelash.

302
00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:34.859
It should sort of hover on the ground, you know?

303
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Oh, I miss you, he said.

304
00:19:37.619 --> 00:19:40.019
Oh, look, she's so gorgeous. too.

305
00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:42.119
No, the date and time.

306
00:19:42.180 --> 00:19:43.500
Is that so hard to say?

307
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wonderful, is it?

308
00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:46.799
That's wonderful, Bless.

309
00:19:46.859 --> 00:19:48.900
It is a thing with men, isn't it?

310
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Well, not with ours.

311
00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.559
We're quite good with our emotions, but a lot of men.

312
00:19:52.619 --> 00:19:53.279
Yeah.

313
00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:56.039
See, too, they've lost contact.

314
00:19:56.099 --> 00:19:57.779
I can't remember.

315
00:19:57.779 --> 00:19:58.799
That present she gave him?

316
00:19:58.859 --> 00:19:59.579
Yeah, it must be.

317
00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:00.660
Oh dear.

318
00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:05.940
Now, wait, the great shadow in the sky comes over the whole spaceship, it looks amazing.

319
00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:08.160
Like, I think it is a really striking image.

320
00:20:08.220 --> 00:20:09.779
Is it just a special effect?

321
00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:10.799
imagine they just...

322
00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:11.640
No, you have a look.

323
00:20:11.700 --> 00:20:12.180
Have a look.

324
00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:12.839
It's coming now.

325
00:20:13.259 --> 00:20:16.799
So that's the shuttle with Scotty on board.

326
00:20:16.859 --> 00:20:17.819
Oh yes.

327
00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:19.140
Yeah, crash landing.

328
00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:20.039
Yeah.

329
00:20:20.099 --> 00:20:22.380
He's improvising us, we speak.

330
00:20:22.500 --> 00:20:23.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

331
00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:23.940
That's all right.

332
00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:25.440
So he's about to learn it.

333
00:20:25.500 --> 00:20:27.599
You see all the debris for him as well. wonderful.

334
00:20:27.660 --> 00:20:36.720
And then he, look, we get his reaction, we get her turning around and that...

335
00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:38.279
That's just a massive gone spaceship.

336
00:20:38.339 --> 00:20:39.839
Yeah, but what sort of shape is it?

337
00:20:39.900 --> 00:20:41.519
I can't tell it's got a big cloud around.

338
00:20:41.579 --> 00:20:42.240
It's part of the thing.

339
00:20:42.299 --> 00:20:42.779
You can't tell.

340
00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:45.839
And then it's just a shadow coming over the...

341
00:20:45.900 --> 00:20:48.240
Hegemony, their sort of version of Federation.

342
00:20:48.299 --> 00:20:49.019
Is that okay?

343
00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:50.640
Is it a made-up word?

344
00:20:50.700 --> 00:20:51.599
No, it's a real word.

345
00:20:51.660 --> 00:20:54.599
And it means domination through power, essentially.

346
00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:56.460
What's it usually describing?

347
00:20:56.819 --> 00:21:01.740
They do have the European Hegemony in Star Trek, the next generation.

348
00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:03.779
They mention it as one of the power blocks.

349
00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:11.759
Oh, now, I must say, I did feel sorry for number one and Ahura, who were just stuck on the bridge...

350
00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:12.779
And Mitchell as well.

351
00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:14.099
Yeah, but she got a line.

352
00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:15.420
I was quite happy about it.

353
00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:22.440
She got more lines in this than I saw Linda Park get in several seasons of Enterprise.

354
00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:24.240
So I was quite pleased about that.

355
00:21:24.299 --> 00:21:26.039
I think Erica so pretty.

356
00:21:26.099 --> 00:21:27.779
Yeah, she's great isn't she?

357
00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.359
Yeah, well, she's wonderful in episode 2 of it.

358
00:21:30.420 --> 00:21:31.680
Yeah, she's really good, isn't she?

359
00:21:31.740 --> 00:21:33.119
bleeding to death.

360
00:21:33.180 --> 00:21:36.180
And now he's handsome, Robert April.

361
00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:37.319
Yeah, but what a prick.

362
00:21:37.380 --> 00:21:38.460
He goes, no, no, no.

363
00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.940
Sorry, there's no stakes for the Federation, so let the colony all die.

364
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:42.900
Get out of there.

365
00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:43.380
What?

366
00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:44.339
Yeah.

367
00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:48.420
Yeah, you've got to have someone hampering him so that, yeah.

368
00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.940
But Picard would have gone, oh, well, okay.

369
00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:53.819
With a sad spot with the pikes, like, no.

370
00:21:53.880 --> 00:22:04.619
I think what's great too is that these guys are friends, like they call each other by their 1st name, he's cre- well, he's calling him captain, but, um, well, the admiral.

371
00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:06.000
Yeah, the admiral.

372
00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:07.140
He calls the admiral.

373
00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:07.680
Oh, okay.

374
00:22:07.740 --> 00:22:09.000
Usually down the way round, yeah.

375
00:22:09.059 --> 00:22:09.660
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

376
00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:18.480
So, Chris, but, you know, um, so they're friends, and we saw him in episode one of Strange 2 Worlds.

377
00:22:18.539 --> 00:22:20.579
He comes and picks Pike Art.

378
00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:28.440
I'd say he's a step up, obviously, from Admiral Ross. but he's a step down from Admiral Nachev, where he's still the best admiral ever.

379
00:22:28.500 --> 00:22:30.839
He's still more handsome than the chair.

380
00:22:30.900 --> 00:22:32.220
No, but she's terrifying.

381
00:22:32.339 --> 00:22:33.059
She is.

382
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:34.920
Oh, shits his knickers.

383
00:22:34.980 --> 00:22:35.880
Every time she turns up.

384
00:22:35.940 --> 00:22:39.720
Oh, what about that admiral who tells him to shut the fuck up or something in the car?

385
00:22:39.779 --> 00:22:40.619
She's only in one.

386
00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:41.460
Yeah, that's true.

387
00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:42.359
She is pretty great.

388
00:22:42.420 --> 00:22:46.200
Oh my god, so they're all waiting. what's happened They're going around the corner now.

389
00:22:46.259 --> 00:22:49.619
We know something awful is going to happen because we're getting so many extreme close-ups of everybody.

390
00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:52.380
And it happens before the credits.

391
00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:59.039
I thought that it happened during the credits, but in fact, they arrive and the Cayuga has already been destroyed and that's what we go to credits.

392
00:22:59.099 --> 00:23:02.460
And yeah, see, it makes it so personal for Pike.

393
00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:13.079
And, you know, Star Trek the Next Generation starts to get there in series 3 and obviously Strange New Worlds has that, you know, Shelby Riker thing going on.

394
00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:20.400
But this, you know, has gone even further in that direction to make it more personal for Pike and Spark.

395
00:23:20.460 --> 00:23:28.079
The best of us needs the Shelby Riker stuff, because it won't lean enough into the threat of the Borg.

396
00:23:28.140 --> 00:23:30.299
Like, it needs stuff to pad out the time.

397
00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:43.440
And it does it does tie the 2 together and like in episode 2 where they're working together. like it is a very satisfying character piece within best of both worlds, but like it is sort of filler in the 1st episode.

398
00:23:43.500 --> 00:23:44.759
Yeah, yeah.

399
00:23:44.819 --> 00:23:49.200
I mean, it works because we actually have been asking that question about Riker as well.

400
00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:56.460
Now, did I notice that in the title sequence here that the special effects change between 2 and 3 and between one and two?

401
00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:57.539
What the hell is that?

402
00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:00.000
And within series three.

403
00:24:00.059 --> 00:24:05.099
There's a there's a number of episodes of series 3 that dispense with the titles altogether for various reasons.

404
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:22.140
I think for just one part of the title sequence, yeah, within all of this sort of visual beauty that we're seeing and rocks tumbling around and great poetry in the sky and things, that we should just go past like one stock colony, say, or something really boring from the 90s to make the country.

405
00:24:22.259 --> 00:24:23.339
I mean, what's that?

406
00:24:23.339 --> 00:24:24.599
That's Starbase one.

407
00:24:24.660 --> 00:24:27.960
The great crystal domes of Starbase one. my god.

408
00:24:28.019 --> 00:24:29.700
There's a forest in there.

409
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:30.839
There's a forest as well.

410
00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:31.619
Do they go into that?

411
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:32.880
I don't think so.

412
00:24:32.940 --> 00:24:34.920
Oh, maybe, I don't remember.

413
00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:36.000
Use the wall, people.

414
00:24:36.059 --> 00:24:37.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

415
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:38.519
But maybe they do.

416
00:24:38.579 --> 00:24:40.500
A wall can handle a crystal forest.

417
00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:44.640
I think they on Starbase one for most of episode two.

418
00:24:44.700 --> 00:24:46.079
I didn't sing the music.

419
00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:46.619
I really sad.

420
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:47.819
I'll do it for episode two.

421
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:48.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

422
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:50.039
Thank God we're doing two.

423
00:24:50.099 --> 00:24:52.680
I would have made you go back and start again.

424
00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:54.900
Yeah, the whole source has been torn apart.

425
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:59.759
I've not seen that much devastation since the defiant was ripped apart and changed the face of evil.

426
00:24:59.819 --> 00:25:00.299
Very small.

427
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:01.559
It was.

428
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:03.539
It was great though.

429
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:05.400
Yeah.

430
00:25:05.460 --> 00:25:10.019
And so we know, we've mentioned, I mean, we know that Christina was on board the Cayuga as well.

431
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:14.220
By all accounts, she is dead right now until we know any better.

432
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:26.880
They're trying not to say that because he, because I think Chris says we know, like, he knows that Batel was calling him from the colony, like FaceTiming him from the colony.

433
00:25:26.940 --> 00:25:30.779
And there's a, there is a little running thing about hope here as well.

434
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:32.819
Like he says we should keep hope.

435
00:25:32.819 --> 00:25:36.180
Like, that happens a couple of times where they refer to hope.

436
00:25:36.299 --> 00:25:36.839
Oh shit.

437
00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:37.859
Did you see that line?

438
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:38.940
I'm sorry.

439
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:44.220
The field renders us beaming anyone off the planet or off the ship.

440
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:45.960
Well, of course, we had to get that line.

441
00:25:46.019 --> 00:25:47.099
Otherwise, why won't we doing that?

442
00:25:47.160 --> 00:26:05.099
But it's important for the plot because, in fact, what they have to do is disable the big gone tower that's preventing communications and transport that becomes our goal and remember what ends up happening is Pellia puts rockets, like they put rockets on the, on the Cayuga source.

443
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:06.359
Oh, yeah, around it.

444
00:26:06.420 --> 00:26:11.279
It's just astonishing how, you know, during the stories where we really need the transporter.

445
00:26:11.339 --> 00:26:14.039
There's always a space reason as to why we can't do that.

446
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.140
But it is consistent with what we had before.

447
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:25.980
Remember last time we had, we, the Gorn couldn't be detected by the ships senses or by the tricorders.

448
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.980
I may have been destructed by all the dripping viscera of that episode.

449
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:30.960
So that's definitely a thing you have.

450
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:35.039
It's hanging from the ceiling at one point. so great.

451
00:26:35.099 --> 00:26:37.500
So the Gorner communicating with them.

452
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.160
It's a message saying, saying, that's it.

453
00:26:41.220 --> 00:26:41.579
Yeah.

454
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:43.559
That basically means you're fucked.

455
00:26:43.619 --> 00:26:45.180
No, it's this map.

456
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:46.619
And they send them a map.

457
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.119
It's just a JPEG.

458
00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:49.920
The Parnassus beat.

459
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:50.819
The Parnassus beat.

460
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.380
Well, Parnassus beat is the name of the planet.

461
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:53.160
Okay.

462
00:26:53.220 --> 00:26:54.900
Oh, actually, no.

463
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:55.980
So hang on.

464
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:58.200
Oh, hey, hey, it does look a bit like that in two.

465
00:26:58.259 --> 00:27:00.539
No, it's bigger into.

466
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:11.460
We'll get there, but because 2 years pass between one and two, um, uh, I think in best of both worlds, Beverly gets a different wig for 2 and she suddenly has longer hair.

467
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.240
Excuse me, Bonnie in the rally.

468
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.460
Oh no, there's a bit of that in Doctor Who as well.

469
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:23.519
Um, uh, but, uh, what, just look at the light coming in the wind.

470
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:24.000
I sorry.

471
00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:29.819
It's just so just we've watched a lot of 90s trek lately where no light comes in the windows.

472
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:31.680
And look at practical lights on the sand as well.

473
00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:33.420
Well, that's appearance on the sand.

474
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.839
You get a bit of that in DSN, but you just don't get the light coming in the windows.

475
00:27:36.900 --> 00:27:39.599
They never should have moved DS9 away from Bayshore, you know.

476
00:27:39.660 --> 00:27:41.940
It would have been fabulous to have the sun coming in all the time.

477
00:27:42.299 --> 00:27:45.059
Oh, God, I think Kirk's so hot.

478
00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:48.059
That weird caterpillar he's got on his top lip.

479
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:56.160
So remember that when he appears in TOS and he's killed at the beginning of an episode of a TOS episode.

480
00:27:56.220 --> 00:27:57.240
Oh, yeah.

481
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:01.440
And he is played by Shatner with a moustache, a fake moustache on.

482
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:08.099
And so they, they had, there's been dialogue about the moustache when he 1st, he's just grown it at the beginning of series.

483
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:09.420
This TV show.

484
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.599
We know the fates of all of these people and it ain't good for any of them.

485
00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:17.579
Well, in fact, one of the things, no, look, the only person who...

486
00:28:17.579 --> 00:28:19.019
Pike is going to end up disabled.

487
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:21.660
Kirk is going to end up dead.

488
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:22.079
Yep.

489
00:28:22.140 --> 00:28:23.759
This is Sam Kirk we're talking about.

490
00:28:23.819 --> 00:28:29.759
Or, um, Nurse Chapel is going to end up a simpering idiot. number one's going to be written out completely.

491
00:28:29.819 --> 00:28:30.539
Yeah, that's right.

492
00:28:30.539 --> 00:28:38.460
Oh, I suppose Ahura and she'll be aged up and she'll lose her memory and various other things will happen to her. speak very odd languages.

493
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.960
Yeah, we don't know what happens to Arn, and because we don't know what happens to Erica.

494
00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:45.180
I thought that maybe we're going to lose Erica.

495
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.799
I think generally what's going to, you know, really the 2 that they can, but they're not going to do that.

496
00:28:49.859 --> 00:28:56.940
I think the, you know, this is a show that we'll just keep the regular cast generally all the way.

497
00:28:57.059 --> 00:28:59.759
Well, this is why then we need our Maurice and things.

498
00:28:59.819 --> 00:29:01.859
So actually, people, we could genuinely lose.

499
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:02.700
Yeah.

500
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.039
Otherwise, you know, there's no snakes at all, is there?

501
00:29:05.099 --> 00:29:07.019
Well, no one's going to die ever.

502
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.779
But, you know, not like a good death?

503
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:10.380
No.

504
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:11.400
Why?

505
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.160
I don't think killing regular characters is all that cool.

506
00:29:14.220 --> 00:29:15.299
Like, what's the point?

507
00:29:15.420 --> 00:29:16.200
It's a TV show.

508
00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:18.480
You don't watch Battlestar Galactica then.

509
00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:20.400
Yeah, yeah, I've noted them regularly over there.

510
00:29:20.460 --> 00:29:23.519
I mean, you know, it's a TV show.

511
00:29:23.579 --> 00:29:24.359
We know they're gonna win.

512
00:29:24.420 --> 00:29:26.519
Like, there's no stakes.

513
00:29:26.579 --> 00:29:27.660
It doesn't have to be peril.

514
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.359
I'm wondering whether they're going to get out of this.

515
00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:31.980
Love Bad Star Galactica.

516
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:33.480
Oh, great death, though.

517
00:29:33.539 --> 00:29:34.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

518
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.079
But I think this isn't the sort of show that does that.

519
00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:40.200
You know, and the hammer thing was a last minute thing.

520
00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:48.720
Hammer was a semi-regular character, but they decided it would be more impactful if they put him in a bit more throughout the season and then kill him off in nine.

521
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:55.619
To be fair, though, we've already learned with Star Trek, you know, they're doing the Doctor Who 2010s thing of, you know, Keller regular.

522
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:01.799
No, we like them, bring them back, uh, because that's what happened to that doctor in discovery, you know, and into shacks in lower days.

523
00:30:01.859 --> 00:30:03.299
Come on.

524
00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:05.099
They got away with that one.

525
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:06.720
That did happen to, no.

526
00:30:06.779 --> 00:30:07.680
We don't talk about it.

527
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.500
It tried so hard to find out.

528
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:11.400
Do we ever find out?

529
00:30:11.460 --> 00:30:12.299
No.

530
00:30:12.299 --> 00:30:13.319
Oh, great.

531
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:16.380
It's a rewriting of the timeline.

532
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:28.380
So Erica is so funny in this because Pike goes to her and says, you know, you've been begging me to be in a landing party and she just sort of does this fixed smile and says, yeah, why have I been doing that?

533
00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:31.319
And of course, this goes very wrong for her?

534
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:32.880
Anybody, right?

535
00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:34.680
You listen to me, you Star Trek fans.

536
00:30:34.740 --> 00:30:37.799
That suggests that, you know, all the 90 stuff was better than this.

537
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:43.319
Go and watch that scene in Best of Both Worlds, where they discover the wreckage in part two, right?

538
00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:47.640
And we can barely afford 3 ships and a few poems.

539
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.019
Just a minute ago.

540
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:53.519
Look, we're sort of going through all of this twisted debris with the shuttle.

541
00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:57.299
And then I think we go straight into the like the decks of the ship in a minute.

542
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.220
Yeah, that happens later.

543
00:30:59.220 --> 00:31:00.180
Incredibly good.

544
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.519
I've said to you several times this week.

545
00:31:02.579 --> 00:31:04.680
TV is cinema these days.

546
00:31:04.740 --> 00:31:05.279
Yeah, yeah.

547
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.019
Some days it's better than cinema.

548
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.259
And I think occasionally Strange New Worlds is there.

549
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:11.279
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

550
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.259
I think consistently it is, you know.

551
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:20.460
I did feel, though, I will say, in the middle of this episode where they're in that boarded upset for 20 minutes.

552
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.660
I was like, okay, this is where we're saving the money.

553
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.759
You suggest I exaggerate on these things.

554
00:31:26.819 --> 00:31:27.299
I know.

555
00:31:27.299 --> 00:31:31.859
It's for a while for a while. extended dialogue scenes, but that's where they're saving their money.

556
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.980
So they can impact with all of this stuff.

557
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:35.880
Yeah, yeah.

558
00:31:35.940 --> 00:31:36.420
It looks great.

559
00:31:36.539 --> 00:31:39.660
I mean, when the ball, the Gordons do show up, fucking you.

560
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:41.759
There's a puppet that's unbelievably gray.

561
00:31:41.819 --> 00:31:42.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

562
00:31:42.900 --> 00:31:46.200
More puppets, I think, absolutely more puppet aliens.

563
00:31:46.259 --> 00:31:49.500
He pops up, right, running the camera and scream.

564
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:55.920
The audience is so funny I love how panicky Pike is and how into it, Erica is.

565
00:31:55.980 --> 00:31:56.819
This is so great.

566
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.839
She's that one who's always at the front of the roller coaster, isn't she?

567
00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:02.519
with her arms and legs out.

568
00:32:02.579 --> 00:32:05.339
But everyone else is kind of unhappy.

569
00:32:05.700 --> 00:32:08.099
Have you seen what they're going for?

570
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.319
I would be kind of...

571
00:32:10.380 --> 00:32:11.880
You're going to be on a plane soon, all right?

572
00:32:11.940 --> 00:32:13.859
If it's doing that, should be unhappy.

573
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.500
Cut to Erica smiling.

574
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.900
I mean, Kirk looks like he's about to break out his spare chuddies.

575
00:32:24.059 --> 00:32:25.980
Straight into the shop.

576
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:32.700
Now, we've done this a lot in this trek going down in a shuttle to a forest and it always looks pony as hell.

577
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:33.779
Did you know that?

578
00:32:33.779 --> 00:32:34.559
They usually do it.

579
00:32:34.619 --> 00:32:35.880
They usually do it through the front screen.

580
00:32:35.940 --> 00:32:36.660
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

581
00:32:36.660 --> 00:32:38.460
You know, you see all the trees coming out.

582
00:32:40.019 --> 00:32:45.960
I mean, that's a cliche where it goes down out of shot and then pulls straight up like that's, but it looked great.

583
00:32:46.019 --> 00:32:48.660
Yeah, I think you're right, you know, that is why I like this so much.

584
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.720
It's just modern day 90s track, isn't it?

585
00:32:51.779 --> 00:32:52.619
Just done really well.

586
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.119
I mean, look at this.

587
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.740
The ship flew over that river there and you saw that it's reflection. water.

588
00:32:58.799 --> 00:32:59.819
It's just very good.

589
00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:01.740
Oh, this is really...

590
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:03.299
So this is the stuff I really love.

591
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.200
It's where the character's feelings break through.

592
00:33:07.259 --> 00:33:13.019
And we've just gotten to a point where they're so good at writing this stuff and the actors are so good at act.

593
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.660
I mean, this would have been interminable this scene on TNG.

594
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:27.720
In fact, what's really good about this, Spock's not betraying any emotions, we've already seen, I think, there's a kind, like, but Una is visibly sad.

595
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:28.980
She's gulping, you know, right?

596
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:29.940
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

597
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:42.000
And and Spock is so young, he just seems so young compared to her, you know, like there's a kind of maternal or big sister thing happening here, which I think is beautiful.

598
00:33:42.059 --> 00:33:44.339
A flick or of emotional on his face.

599
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:50.940
Yeah, he's playing it like, like a Vulcan. but a Vulcan restraining emotions.

600
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.740
But look at how it shot as well.

601
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.299
He's looking up at her, as if she's an adult and he's a child.

602
00:33:57.299 --> 00:34:00.779
And we're looking at her up at her and looking across all down.

603
00:34:00.779 --> 00:34:02.339
Yes.

604
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:03.000
Yes, he is.

605
00:34:03.059 --> 00:34:04.140
It's beautifully done.

606
00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:06.299
But he's just doing business.

607
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:07.559
Like he's just doing space.

608
00:34:07.619 --> 00:34:08.699
We could do a scan.

609
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:09.480
We could do this.

610
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.440
There is a 58% chance that she could be alive.

611
00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:14.099
Yes.

612
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:15.059
Yeah.

613
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.460
And then, but then we discover that Sick Bay's gone.

614
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:22.619
I mean, come on. just admitted all this and now you're showing the ship torn apart on the screen.

615
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:32.460
Oh, and look, both, like, Mitchell and beautiful, beautiful Neota, but, oh, and she puts, oh, that's so heartbreaking.

616
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:33.119
That's really good.

617
00:34:33.900 --> 00:34:35.699
It's the restrained emotion.

618
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.139
Yeah, more than...

619
00:34:37.139 --> 00:34:39.179
Yeah, sucker in stuff.

620
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:40.860
No it's really well done.

621
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.679
And again, just the personal stakes are so well done.

622
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.300
Now this is location, right?

623
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.480
I think, well, that looks like it must be the war.

624
00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:51.239
Because it's nighttime.

625
00:34:51.300 --> 00:34:53.219
So it probably is just shot inside.

626
00:34:53.340 --> 00:35:01.500
I thought, and I'm assuming they've explored this sort of La on gaunt stuff quite a bit because I thought there would be more of that in this, more backstory.

627
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:14.940
In fact, next week, she is visibly relaxed because, well, because she feared would happen just happened and she survived.

628
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:27.659
And even that, you know, the tightly, tightly plaited hair, the tightly knotted plaited hair starts to relax, and in fact, it's the 1st scene where she's teaching Spock to dance.

629
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:28.860
Okay.

630
00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:31.800
Because she's a dancer as well, just like Gatesy.

631
00:35:31.860 --> 00:35:34.139
And there's...

632
00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:35.519
Do you know her?

633
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.940
Friends with Marina.

634
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:48.239
Um, and she, they do some great dancing scenes in series 3 and she's super chill and relaxed in the next episode.

635
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.760
Remember when I'm off piece now.

636
00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:54.300
You remember when Jacqueline Pierce relaxed between 2 seasons of Blake 7?

637
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.039
I think it's for the same reasons, do you?

638
00:35:56.099 --> 00:35:59.159
No, I just think Christina Chong had her 1st orgasm.

639
00:35:59.219 --> 00:36:01.079
No, I think she's...

640
00:36:01.139 --> 00:36:03.239
No, that's not a thing.

641
00:36:03.300 --> 00:36:04.380
That is located.

642
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.480
No, I think, I mean, I don't know.

643
00:36:06.539 --> 00:36:08.639
They can do fire in the studio, can't they?

644
00:36:08.699 --> 00:36:11.579
But it does look like it's, I think it's a controlled space.

645
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:12.539
I think you're right.

646
00:36:12.539 --> 00:36:13.619
Yeah, it's just the block.

647
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:14.760
It's the lighting.

648
00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:17.460
Like, when they were outside earlier. was so clearly outside.

649
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.440
I know, I think it's the same place.

650
00:36:19.500 --> 00:36:21.840
Oh, there's a, there's a gone.

651
00:36:22.019 --> 00:36:24.300
They're sort of padding along like dogs.

652
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:25.260
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

653
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:26.460
They're babies, isn't they?

654
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:27.300
Yeah, yeah.

655
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:28.559
And they make a comment about that.

656
00:36:28.619 --> 00:36:30.059
Like, why are we being attacked by the guy?

657
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.159
Do you think it's possible to domesticate a gone?

658
00:36:32.219 --> 00:36:33.900
I think they have it as a pet.

659
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:34.440
No.

660
00:36:34.500 --> 00:36:35.099
No?

661
00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:38.579
There's a gone wedding in low decks.

662
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:42.059
So I think relations with the gone normal life.

663
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:43.139
How did that end up?

664
00:36:43.139 --> 00:36:44.699
All the guests.

665
00:36:44.699 --> 00:36:46.739
They just go through a gone wedding at some point.

666
00:36:47.820 --> 00:36:50.099
They spread their eggs.

667
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:51.420
Oh, it's wonderful.

668
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:52.739
No.

669
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:53.519
Oh, God.

670
00:36:53.579 --> 00:36:54.900
People, you listen to me.

671
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:56.460
Do not get captured by a gore.

672
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:02.699
You're going to end up in a horrible pupil sack and eaten away and turned into sludgy human food.

673
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:03.300
Yeah, yeah.

674
00:37:03.300 --> 00:37:05.579
Or you have legs, eggs laid.

675
00:37:05.699 --> 00:37:09.179
That's what I love about this. is that they dare to be a bit visceral.

676
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:09.840
Yeah, yeah.

677
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.880
And Trek just isn't that usually.

678
00:37:11.940 --> 00:37:19.019
I mean, you can see, you can see that the Borg with all of those tubes and things.

679
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:20.039
Do you know what I mean?

680
00:37:20.099 --> 00:37:22.800
Try and are trying to do that.

681
00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:25.440
They're a little bit inspired by alien.

682
00:37:25.500 --> 00:37:26.880
Absolutely not correct.

683
00:37:26.940 --> 00:37:30.420
I think the scariest thing you ever see with the Borg is that child in the drawer.

684
00:37:30.539 --> 00:37:31.260
The baby.

685
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:32.280
Yeah, that's horrible.

686
00:37:32.940 --> 00:37:36.480
But, you know, like you said, there's blood everywhere.

687
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:41.639
And it's, yeah, gloopy and horrible and acidic. you know what I mean?

688
00:37:41.699 --> 00:37:42.539
It's nasty.

689
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:46.559
So we get we get a fair bit of gone action here, but they don't see...

690
00:37:46.619 --> 00:37:48.840
Oh my god, that was a puppet.

691
00:37:48.900 --> 00:37:50.579
There's a puppet straight in front of them.

692
00:37:50.699 --> 00:37:52.019
Oh, and they're fighting each other.

693
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.699
That's right. eating each other.

694
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:57.420
Yes, you know what I would have liked is, oh, oh, we'll come back to this.

695
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:10.800
I would have liked them to be sort of like, you know, battering at that door and trying to break their way in. and occasionally you see the arms scrubbing about and just a bit of that. and I kept thinking, when's this going to get really sort of panicky?

696
00:38:10.860 --> 00:38:11.400
It does.

697
00:38:11.460 --> 00:38:16.559
I don't think you want to make it easy for them when the go notice them.

698
00:38:16.619 --> 00:38:19.019
You don't want to make it easy for them to defend them.

699
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:19.739
That's true.

700
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.260
Yeah, you know, they have to be hiding from the gone otherwise.

701
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:26.400
It just meant I kept waiting for to feel anxious.

702
00:38:26.460 --> 00:38:32.280
Well, we get a little bit of gone action at this point in the episode, but then we don't get it 1st bit.

703
00:38:32.340 --> 00:38:34.019
She goes, don't sugarcoat it.

704
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:35.039
I love a crazy fair.

705
00:38:35.099 --> 00:38:37.320
Just say it how it is. right?

706
00:38:37.380 --> 00:38:40.380
Jesus, wonderful, that character.

707
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:42.300
Does she get an episode of her own?

708
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:43.380
No.

709
00:38:43.380 --> 00:38:44.400
Well, she should.

710
00:38:44.460 --> 00:38:44.880
She should.

711
00:38:44.940 --> 00:38:46.320
Her and Scotty.

712
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:47.400
Give him an episode.

713
00:38:47.460 --> 00:38:50.219
Send them down on a planet and just apple 2 of a minute.

714
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:56.579
But she is in it quite a lot, and there's a hilarious gag about her absence from an episode, which we'll talk about later.

715
00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:02.760
You know, you've been staying in my home now for about a week now. sort of not too dissimilar to this room, is it?

716
00:39:02.820 --> 00:39:04.559
Sort of viscera dripping about the place.

717
00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:06.480
It'd be a cleaner.

718
00:39:06.539 --> 00:39:08.519
No, not mine.

719
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.199
Blood splash.

720
00:39:10.260 --> 00:39:12.059
Actually, there is blood on the wall downstairs.

721
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:13.380
I'll show you later.

722
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:14.340
Slow dose.

723
00:39:14.460 --> 00:39:16.559
Anyway, sorry, sorry.

724
00:39:16.619 --> 00:39:18.480
We're in the barbershop, aren't we?

725
00:39:18.539 --> 00:39:19.199
Is that where we are?

726
00:39:19.260 --> 00:39:21.900
Oh, well, that little boy was so happy.

727
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.039
Yeah, yeah, with his haircut.

728
00:39:23.099 --> 00:39:23.760
Shocking.

729
00:39:23.820 --> 00:39:24.239
Yeah.

730
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.760
Oh, no, does that mean he was talking about?

731
00:39:26.820 --> 00:39:27.539
No, no, no, no.

732
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:29.460
Yes, they all, he went out, he finished.

733
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:30.539
No, you don't know.

734
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.300
He left. but we don't know who's been killed.

735
00:39:33.539 --> 00:39:37.199
I like to think all the children have been killed on the planet.

736
00:39:37.260 --> 00:39:39.659
No, no, that would get a name for myself, you know.

737
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:45.960
So there's only, I think, you know, we don't dwell on it, but there are only a few 100 colonists that are beamed up.

738
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:47.519
Of how many?

739
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:48.840
5000?

740
00:39:48.900 --> 00:39:50.820
Yeah, and the rest have all been...

741
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:52.860
Well, they don't explicitly say it or dwell on it.

742
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.420
When they you say beamed up, though.

743
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:55.800
You mean beamed up and put in no sacks.

744
00:39:55.860 --> 00:39:56.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

745
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:58.619
So it's not a happy ending by people there.

746
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.079
I mean, there's one man, it's a whole face.

747
00:40:01.139 --> 00:40:02.400
Yeah, yeah, some of them are killed too.

748
00:40:02.460 --> 00:40:04.920
So that, there's the viscera.

749
00:40:04.980 --> 00:40:05.579
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

750
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:07.860
It's like there's blood dripping from the ceiling.

751
00:40:08.099 --> 00:40:10.980
And that's...

752
00:40:10.980 --> 00:40:11.940
A lot of blood.

753
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:13.860
Do you know, that's not a lot of this, right?

754
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:15.539
I don't think that's an adult, you know?

755
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:16.920
No, I don't know.

756
00:40:16.980 --> 00:40:17.940
I don't know what that is.

757
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:19.619
It's only because you're a teacher.

758
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:20.400
I'll do it.

759
00:40:20.460 --> 00:40:20.760
All right.

760
00:40:20.820 --> 00:40:24.599
So we are about to meet Scotty.

761
00:40:24.659 --> 00:40:29.579
So they've detected a signal that Scotty has set to trap the Gorn.

762
00:40:29.579 --> 00:40:38.460
They've detected it as a group of people and so they're going to try and find them and then they meet Scotty.

763
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:50.519
And so Scotty, like, I don't know what sort of backstory there was for Scotty, but here they're establishing the idea that he was on a ship called the Stardiver, and he's the only survivor of that.

764
00:40:50.579 --> 00:40:51.539
The only...

765
00:40:51.539 --> 00:40:53.820
Is he's in season one, isn't he, Scossi?

766
00:40:53.940 --> 00:40:55.199
In the 1st episode?

767
00:40:55.260 --> 00:40:55.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

768
00:40:55.860 --> 00:40:56.159
Okay.

769
00:40:56.219 --> 00:40:58.559
So you probably didn't have much of a backstory.

770
00:40:58.619 --> 00:40:59.280
No, no.

771
00:40:59.340 --> 00:41:02.519
It just went around murdering women on that planet. that's right.

772
00:41:02.579 --> 00:41:03.239
That's all he did.

773
00:41:03.300 --> 00:41:05.460
Oh, here he is.

774
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.460
Just like the way he just pops his head out and goes, hello?

775
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.260
And I really like him.

776
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.179
So he's a bit of a dork.

777
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:19.619
And he's clearly a sort of, like, they really lean into the engineering genius thing and the ability to improvise and staff.

778
00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:21.659
He's also...

779
00:41:21.659 --> 00:41:24.179
Oddly sexy.

780
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:28.079
I can't, it's not just the accent, which is gorgeous, right?

781
00:41:28.139 --> 00:41:29.460
But he's he's not heavy.

782
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:35.219
But he's got a little bit of, he's a little bit babyfaced and stuff, which is kind of huge.

783
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:36.900
It's perfect. you know what?

784
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.960
I always thought that Peg did a good Scotty in those movies.

785
00:41:40.019 --> 00:41:40.980
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

786
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:41.820
This is better.

787
00:41:42.539 --> 00:41:44.639
Because this is an actual Scots movie.

788
00:41:44.699 --> 00:41:47.820
And you just can't fake an actual Scotsman.

789
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:54.599
And the, the, he gets to speak more Scottish, like, because, because Scotty has such a terrible accent.

790
00:41:54.659 --> 00:42:04.559
So Jimmy Dewan, master of dialect, Jimmy Dewan, does such a terrible job with Scotty's accent to the point where they make fun of it in series one of Picard.

791
00:42:04.619 --> 00:42:13.440
Remember the emergency engineering hologram on Las Arena, had a shitty fake Scottish accent just as a child. many accents.

792
00:42:13.500 --> 00:42:14.820
Oh man.

793
00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:21.059
I mean, that is clearly a man that has been brought up on haggis, Glenn Fiddig and Nips.

794
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.500
You know what, nips are?

795
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:23.940
Oh, they're parsnips.

796
00:42:24.059 --> 00:42:25.139
Parsnips, yeah.

797
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:26.940
Yeah, nips and tatties.

798
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:27.719
Okay.

799
00:42:27.780 --> 00:42:35.099
But he gets to speak properly Scottish, which is really cool, and there was even one word later in the dialogue, but I have no idea what it is.

800
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.460
But he needs to be instantly likeable.

801
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:43.260
Join this crew because it's such a likeable crew and they absolutely get it right.

802
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.179
So Martin will end up.

803
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.280
So his name's Martin Quinn I think.

804
00:42:47.340 --> 00:42:51.719
He goes with an army of space lizards coming after me.

805
00:42:51.780 --> 00:42:53.400
I can be quite creative.

806
00:42:53.460 --> 00:42:55.619
We'll discover that next episode.

807
00:42:57.300 --> 00:42:59.039
They're coming.

808
00:42:59.099 --> 00:42:59.639
They're coming.

809
00:42:59.940 --> 00:43:02.099
We're all gonna die.

810
00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:08.340
Do you know, that might have been a way of getting my schedule insulted, you know?

811
00:43:08.940 --> 00:43:11.880
Put her guns on my head, so I'm going, okay.

812
00:43:11.940 --> 00:43:20.280
I'll do the calendar So now we're in the we're in the diner where we are going to spend quite a bit of time.

813
00:43:20.340 --> 00:43:22.559
There is, yeah, okay, maybe not 20 minutes.

814
00:43:22.619 --> 00:43:23.820
There's at least 10 minutes here.

815
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.659
Now, we are 27 minutes in.

816
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:29.340
We're halfway through the episode.

817
00:43:29.460 --> 00:43:32.460
But we haven't actually had a single bit of action yet.

818
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:33.360
No.

819
00:43:33.420 --> 00:43:35.940
And it doesn't hit until about...

820
00:43:36.059 --> 00:43:38.219
Well, we had if we did fire.

821
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.440
We did kilogorn youngling and stuff.

822
00:43:40.500 --> 00:43:43.079
But we are still investigating and setting up the situation.

823
00:43:43.860 --> 00:43:52.800
And even in best of both worlds, there's the whole sequence where they go to the Borg ship and they all activate and come after them. halfway through the episode.

824
00:43:52.860 --> 00:43:56.099
So there is a bit of there's a bit of Borg action.

825
00:43:58.079 --> 00:43:59.579
Yeah, I always think...

826
00:43:59.579 --> 00:44:07.079
No, but I always think those scenes where they wander on the Borg ship and they're unnoticed that that's cheating and kind of boring. you know what I mean?

827
00:44:07.139 --> 00:44:10.380
Wow, I'm sort of waiting for them to wake up.

828
00:44:10.380 --> 00:44:14.280
But they don't, they can't do this, the quick jumps and the scares and things.

829
00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:23.940
That shot there where that we start behind the counter and the camera goes up to see them in their booth and below the counter is just handprints and stuff coming in blood.

830
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:28.199
No, they are doing a good visual representation that there is danger.

831
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.119
I just want to see some danger.

832
00:44:30.179 --> 00:44:31.079
Yeah, yeah.

833
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:35.280
And interestingly, this reminds me so much of the Buffy episode spiral.

834
00:44:35.340 --> 00:44:36.900
Do you remember where they're inside that shape?

835
00:44:36.900 --> 00:44:38.159
And it's all boarded up.

836
00:44:38.219 --> 00:44:43.440
But in that, I don't know if you remember, the monks of whatever they record.

837
00:44:43.500 --> 00:44:44.340
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

838
00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:49.920
They're like battering them all the time. and they're getting visibly claustrophobic inside.

839
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.860
But I, like I said, I don't think you can have...

840
00:44:52.980 --> 00:45:03.420
I think that they just need to be undetectable by the by the gone rather than fighting them off here because, um, you know, that diminishes them as a threat.

841
00:45:03.539 --> 00:45:12.300
So you see the morning shelter in place signs that are up there that must have just been activated throughout the colony when they, when the, when the thing happened.

842
00:45:12.420 --> 00:45:13.980
So here.

843
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.039
Why don't they have security things on these colony planets?

844
00:45:17.099 --> 00:45:19.440
Why don't they have shields and things like that?

845
00:45:19.500 --> 00:45:21.239
Yeah, I don't know.

846
00:45:21.300 --> 00:45:23.280
Of course, a lot of people, 5000 people.

847
00:45:23.340 --> 00:45:26.760
Yeah, I know, but like, I don't know, why don't we have shields?

848
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:32.039
Oh, I don't have gourbs coming over my town, tearing me apart.

849
00:45:32.099 --> 00:45:33.599
They didn't think the ones are coming.

850
00:45:33.659 --> 00:45:37.920
It's funny how we can find excuses, you know, when it's strange new worlds.

851
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.559
Oh, it's Star Trek, we have to.

852
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:41.159
Yeah.

853
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:45.179
Frequent, always.

854
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:47.699
Yeah.

855
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.400
So he's sort of setting up some of the stuff for the 2nd episode.

856
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:57.179
Yeah, so we were setting up, we set up the stuff about the coronal mass ejection, the thing about the star thing, which is the thing that solves the problem.

857
00:45:57.239 --> 00:45:58.920
We set that up and start talking about that here.

858
00:45:58.980 --> 00:46:02.340
This was the closest planet I could set down on.

859
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:03.719
Well, that's very unfortunate.

860
00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:05.099
Well, it was covered in corn.

861
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:09.300
No, but remember they were attacked by the Gorn who were on their way to this planet.

862
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:15.000
And so he ends up going to the place where they end up and he actually says, you know, like he actually says that.

863
00:46:15.059 --> 00:46:16.860
So that does, you know, that makes sense.

864
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.980
They encounter the Gorn while they're on their way to Panassa Speed.

865
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:21.239
Yeah, 3 words there.

866
00:46:21.300 --> 00:46:23.519
I think it summed up Scotty quite well.

867
00:46:23.579 --> 00:46:24.659
I cannibalise.

868
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.059
He does that quite a lot, doesn't he?

869
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.539
Yeah, no, I think they set the character up really well.

870
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:31.800
I'm really delighted.

871
00:46:31.860 --> 00:46:32.699
I don't know who else.

872
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.039
Like, will we ever see, um...

873
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:36.119
I was super...

874
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.699
Please, this scene was in it with the doctor.

875
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.360
Otherwise, he literally does nothing in this episode.

876
00:46:42.420 --> 00:46:49.500
And it happens quite a bit and I know he gets his own episodes, but I would like to see a bit more of him. such a great actor.

877
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:50.519
He's really good.

878
00:46:50.579 --> 00:46:52.079
I think he's just a lovely voice.

879
00:46:52.139 --> 00:47:10.619
I think this scene is great too, because Mbenga loves Christine as a colleague, and Erica is her friend, and like this manages not to get mawkish, but look at them both.

880
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:12.840
Oh, yeah.

881
00:47:12.900 --> 00:47:18.179
And of course, Christine and Moveanga had passed together in the war.

882
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:19.440
We've seen that a couple of times.

883
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:21.960
See, I do, I do love this.

884
00:47:22.019 --> 00:47:23.519
I love all the character scenes in this.

885
00:47:23.579 --> 00:47:25.019
They're just so good at it.

886
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.000
But again, I was watching them sort of laughing and smiling and I'm like, no, no, this should be tense.

887
00:47:30.059 --> 00:47:31.800
Why isn't this tense?

888
00:47:31.860 --> 00:47:37.320
Well, because they think they did that in series one, episode nine, you know, they'll never top that.

889
00:47:37.380 --> 00:47:38.219
Jesus Christ.

890
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:39.900
So they're doing something different here.

891
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.239
The thing with people bursting apart.

892
00:47:42.300 --> 00:47:43.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

893
00:47:43.739 --> 00:47:44.400
Just the best.

894
00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:46.199
Ah, dear.

895
00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:49.260
Oh, look how slowly the camera's going around the table.

896
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:50.760
This is how you do it, Discovery.

897
00:47:50.820 --> 00:47:53.099
How are you complain about the camera moving at all?

898
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:54.239
No, no, no.

899
00:47:54.300 --> 00:47:56.099
I don't mind it moving as long as it's stately.

900
00:47:56.219 --> 00:47:58.679
Yeah, you know, when it sort of zoom in.

901
00:47:58.739 --> 00:48:04.260
Remember that enterprise episode where it was zooming around the table. for no reason. because that was a really boring scene.

902
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.079
They were trying to...

903
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:08.940
She's got, what's her name?

904
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:11.400
Carol Kane, she's got the best look.

905
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:12.960
I love her crazy hair.

906
00:48:13.019 --> 00:48:21.239
I think too, having someone, like she's 5000 years old, that character we discover sometime during the series, we know that she's very old.

907
00:48:24.300 --> 00:48:32.699
And so having her be a crazy old lady, which is basically also what she plays in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, is actually pretty great.

908
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:34.380
Clearly her niche.

909
00:48:34.380 --> 00:48:35.460
She's very good at it.

910
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.380
And she's really, really good in there.

911
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.079
She's got a really nice scene voice as well.

912
00:48:40.139 --> 00:48:45.239
And weirdly, they barely give her a line in that musical unless she was dubbed.

913
00:48:45.420 --> 00:48:48.239
I don't think she was dubbed. think that was her.

914
00:48:48.300 --> 00:48:51.780
But she sings some of the best lines in status report.

915
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.340
Yeah, she's really good.

916
00:48:53.460 --> 00:48:55.380
Why are we singing?

917
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.179
But look, they're excited.

918
00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.639
Look, they're excited about coming up with a plan as well.

919
00:48:59.699 --> 00:49:04.619
Like, I think it would be miserable if they were all constantly downcast and they're not doing that.

920
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:06.480
So this has been geeking out.

921
00:49:06.539 --> 00:49:07.440
I get that.

922
00:49:07.500 --> 00:49:11.940
But that, you know, we've gone from them smiling on the planet to them geeking out here.

923
00:49:11.940 --> 00:49:13.320
Where's the danger?

924
00:49:13.380 --> 00:49:14.940
Look how pretty Ahura is.

925
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:16.079
Like, she's super into it.

926
00:49:16.139 --> 00:49:18.719
So Spock is going to rescue.

927
00:49:18.780 --> 00:49:20.699
So that's right.

928
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:30.599
So the plan is to affix rockets to the Cayuga and then drive it into the into the Gorns thing.

929
00:49:30.659 --> 00:49:38.340
And of course, down on the planet, Chris and Maria are also trying to destroy that corn beacon thing as well.

930
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.780
But because we're heading towards the end of part one.

931
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:44.639
It's all gonna go horribly wrong.

932
00:49:44.699 --> 00:49:48.960
Well, they do actually manage to do it, but then the gorn turn up in force.

933
00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:57.119
I don't know how they achieved the impossible of even peck, but somehow he looks so hot with those ears. eyebrows and that ridiculous haircut.

934
00:49:57.179 --> 00:49:58.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

935
00:49:58.260 --> 00:49:59.880
I don't think that's impossible.

936
00:49:59.940 --> 00:50:00.840
Impeccably.

937
00:50:00.900 --> 00:50:02.460
Yeah, he's really good, isn't it?

938
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:04.199
Yeah, yeah.

939
00:50:04.260 --> 00:50:05.099
That's a bat joke.

940
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.099
I didn't even notice.

941
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.519
Oh, did that look?

942
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:12.780
Everyone's a fucking sleep.

943
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:13.739
Everyone asleep.

944
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.539
For God's sake, sleep at some point.

945
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.579
We are 33 minutes in.

946
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.579
And literally no one has been in danger yet.

947
00:50:20.699 --> 00:50:21.179
Come on.

948
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.059
Well, they were firing at gone in the street.

949
00:50:24.059 --> 00:50:28.619
They were walking past like puppies. was hardly any great danger there.

950
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:43.139
So now we're going now we're going to sneak off with Scotty to go to his shuttle, which crashed in the cold open in order to get his gone transponder.

951
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:44.460
Do they know he's going?

952
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:50.699
She gets woken up and the 2 of them decide to go together, which I actually really like.

953
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:54.420
Like she kind of gives him shit for saying, I'm just going to go and rescue you all.

954
00:50:54.420 --> 00:50:56.159
And she says, well, I'm going to.

955
00:50:56.219 --> 00:51:01.980
She's like the Petty Johnson Gerald, the female in the relationship that ain't taking nervous shit.

956
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:02.519
That's right.

957
00:51:02.579 --> 00:51:06.300
And I'm not gonna, you're not doing this gallant thing where you go off and say this.

958
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:07.320
You're not being the man.

959
00:51:07.380 --> 00:51:08.460
Here I'm coming with you.

960
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

961
00:51:11.099 --> 00:51:13.980
And he looked...

962
00:51:13.980 --> 00:51:17.039
She smiles at him and raises her eyebrows briefly and stuff.

963
00:51:17.099 --> 00:51:20.280
Like, there's real warp and affection and there's Scotty, who's over there.

964
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.619
Look at him.

965
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:26.099
Oh, this is a bit awkward. didn't mean to eavesdrop.

966
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:28.139
It's so cute.

967
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.219
Do you want to come too?

968
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.199
It's like, no, I'm coming.

969
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.780
I'm terrified, but he's gonna do it.

970
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:38.639
Now, um, that actor.

971
00:51:38.699 --> 00:51:39.300
What's his name?

972
00:51:39.420 --> 00:51:40.380
Martin Quinn.

973
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.860
He can roll his Rs, like a brother.

974
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.900
But in a way that Jimmy couldn't.

975
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.800
Well, so terrified becomes, I can't even do it.

976
00:51:49.860 --> 00:51:51.960
Yeah, I know, I'm not gonna do it, but I can do it.

977
00:51:52.019 --> 00:52:03.599
But, um, it's, it's, like Jimmy's, Jimmy's like someone who has heard a Scottish accent described to him over the farm. rather than...

978
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:09.179
It's not me doing well. either But, um, look at this.

979
00:52:09.179 --> 00:52:09.840
It looks great.

980
00:52:09.900 --> 00:52:10.860
Hang on. wait.

981
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:12.539
So the ship sort of spins around now.

982
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:17.820
We go round the destroyed saucer and then we get to see inside the deck.

983
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:18.840
Fucking out.

984
00:52:18.900 --> 00:52:19.860
Look at all the consoles.

985
00:52:19.860 --> 00:52:21.000
Yeah, yeah.

986
00:52:21.059 --> 00:52:24.539
And now we're actually, which is just obviously a redressed.

987
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:25.559
Any rocks?

988
00:52:25.860 --> 00:52:28.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah. sort of pipes.

989
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:29.880
Oh, there's some sort of mud.

990
00:52:29.940 --> 00:52:32.280
Yeah, sprayed around dead people.

991
00:52:32.340 --> 00:52:34.079
I don't have mud on a starship.

992
00:52:34.139 --> 00:52:38.400
No, the rocks are actually things and there's a reason for them.

993
00:52:38.460 --> 00:52:42.239
They're explained in the lower decks episode, why the firecats are full of rocks.

994
00:52:42.300 --> 00:52:46.440
I imagine that the gore on fire, sort of great rocks. loads of mud.

995
00:52:46.500 --> 00:52:47.880
That's why there's mud everywhere.

996
00:52:47.940 --> 00:52:48.719
Yeah.

997
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.239
So we did say there are oxygen.

998
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:53.639
How many people survived on the ship?

999
00:52:53.699 --> 00:52:54.780
They're just her.

1000
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:55.619
Oh, God.

1001
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:57.360
Fuck's sake.

1002
00:52:57.420 --> 00:52:58.260
Really?

1003
00:52:58.320 --> 00:52:59.639
She's in the opening cred?

1004
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:03.659
Yeah, but a handful of people.

1005
00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:08.400
There might be other people alive, but then they crash the cayoga into the...

1006
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.179
There's someone waving a hanky.

1007
00:53:15.300 --> 00:53:19.920
Let's just say, it was on the enterprise when Troy took it down as well.

1008
00:53:19.980 --> 00:53:21.239
And this is the final time.

1009
00:53:21.300 --> 00:53:22.739
Oh bless.

1010
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:24.119
Yeah.

1011
00:53:24.179 --> 00:53:30.780
That would be very funny if they told a story about an episode that's on every crash spaceship that keeps surviving.

1012
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.320
So she's plugging in some things.

1013
00:53:34.380 --> 00:53:38.460
So this is the point where we start to get some gone.

1014
00:53:38.579 --> 00:53:53.760
Now, this and when he comes along with wonderful, it sort of flies through on his spaceship, a space suit, sorry, a bit like, I kept saying, it's a bit like a layer in the last Jedi. gracefully going through space towards the ship.

1015
00:53:53.820 --> 00:53:58.079
Well, or Michael in the 1st episode of Discovery.

1016
00:53:58.139 --> 00:54:01.019
Do you imagine a few people have hissed?

1017
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:03.719
I mean, mentioning that in the last year, I probably hope so.

1018
00:54:03.780 --> 00:54:04.199
I hope so.

1019
00:54:04.260 --> 00:54:04.980
That's a great moment.

1020
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:05.579
W wonderful.

1021
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:08.820
Yeah, so there she is.

1022
00:54:08.940 --> 00:54:11.039
Looking through the window, is it?

1023
00:54:11.099 --> 00:54:13.019
I mean, you wouldn't do that in 90s, would you?

1024
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:14.219
you couldn't even manage it.

1025
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:15.059
No, no, wait.

1026
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:20.219
Do you not remember when Aaron went to the airlock and saw that shuttle in Npulk Nore blowing up?

1027
00:54:20.219 --> 00:54:21.659
It was quite impressive, actually.

1028
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:27.420
But I mean, you know, there's dirt on the window and stuff like that and the camera's moving, you know, like all sorts of things that you couldn't do.

1029
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.199
There's her reflection and we actually pull focus away from the end of right.

1030
00:54:31.260 --> 00:54:32.219
Oh, this is hilarious.

1031
00:54:32.219 --> 00:54:33.000
The torch runs out.

1032
00:54:33.059 --> 00:54:38.699
She's doing SOS with the torch and it only lasts like 2 glass. yeah But look.

1033
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:41.940
Don't you just want to sing?

1034
00:54:41.940 --> 00:54:42.599
Flash.

1035
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.500
He saved every one of us.

1036
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:47.880
And he's brought a suitcase with him.

1037
00:54:47.940 --> 00:54:50.940
Fuck his arse even looks good in that space, doesn't it?

1038
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:51.719
It looks magnificent.

1039
00:54:51.780 --> 00:54:53.820
I hadn't noticed that I'm riding up behind him.

1040
00:54:55.619 --> 00:54:58.019
Do you want to go alongside?

1041
00:54:58.019 --> 00:54:59.400
No, I'm fine back here.

1042
00:54:59.460 --> 00:54:59.820
Thank you.

1043
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:02.820
It's on the whole of the ship.

1044
00:55:03.179 --> 00:55:04.619
I mean, we just do this as a matter...

1045
00:55:04.619 --> 00:55:05.340
I know, that's right.

1046
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:06.659
Back in the day, it was a whole episode.

1047
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:07.800
Do you remember the Enterprise one?

1048
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:08.760
Oh, yeah.

1049
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:13.019
Seven years of Star Trek the Next Generation and no one wears a spacesuit.

1050
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:14.400
It's amazing.

1051
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:18.659
Although, it's nice when Amanda and Q pop on sort of some, so that time does happen.

1052
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:20.400
It's a terrible special effect, though.

1053
00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:22.079
I know, but what's he doing?

1054
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:27.300
So he's putting things so that they can control their rockets.

1055
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:28.320
There you go.

1056
00:55:28.380 --> 00:55:30.840
He's putting your technical descriptions.

1057
00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:31.860
She's plugging things in.

1058
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:33.300
He's putting things...

1059
00:55:33.420 --> 00:55:37.500
Yeah, well that's it. why techno babble is not nothing to be afraid of.

1060
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:41.159
No, but they don't they don't use things usually.

1061
00:55:41.699 --> 00:55:43.739
Oh, here he goes again.

1062
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.559
He's very graceful Oh, I love it.

1063
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:51.300
It comes gliding upside down.

1064
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:52.860
He's smashing the window.

1065
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:53.280
Look.

1066
00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:54.119
Calling out.

1067
00:55:54.179 --> 00:55:54.840
It's wonderful.

1068
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:55.860
Hello, Spark.

1069
00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.239
I realise things ended on bad terms, but I'm the one survivor, please.

1070
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:03.300
Remember how hot I am.

1071
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:06.360
She's beautiful.

1072
00:56:06.420 --> 00:56:08.579
Well, is that blood on the wall there?

1073
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:11.280
Well, she's got it all over her top, look.

1074
00:56:11.340 --> 00:56:14.159
Oh, that's, you know, she got smashed against the bulkhead or whatever.

1075
00:56:14.219 --> 00:56:15.000
Look at this.

1076
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:16.139
Yeah.

1077
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:22.559
The crash, the crash thing, and then the and then the big gone thing that they've made.

1078
00:56:22.619 --> 00:56:24.420
They can do people now, right?

1079
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:25.199
CGI.

1080
00:56:25.260 --> 00:56:26.760
Yeah, they're doing so, yeah.

1081
00:56:26.820 --> 00:56:28.440
Long distance shots of vistas.

1082
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:30.900
Yeah, better than they could in Enterprise anyway.

1083
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:32.460
They were people.

1084
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:34.440
That was more, for God's sake.

1085
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:38.639
Oh, I just love how dirty it all is.

1086
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:40.500
It gets even better in episode two.

1087
00:56:40.619 --> 00:56:43.559
It's dirty and mucky as well in episode two.

1088
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:45.000
Okay.

1089
00:56:45.059 --> 00:56:48.179
We're about to almost have some danger in a minute.

1090
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:49.320
Yeah.

1091
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.019
But when it comes, it's amazing.

1092
00:56:52.139 --> 00:57:03.059
So, again, one of the things that this show relies on, and I don't think it's, look, there's a scene here which is just basically a scene from...

1093
00:57:03.059 --> 00:57:04.139
Oh, my God.

1094
00:57:04.139 --> 00:57:06.420
So, here it is.

1095
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:07.980
It's great, isn't it?

1096
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:10.679
It looks like the puppet from Spaceballs.

1097
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:13.019
Yeah, but it's all covered in Sworfiga and stuff.

1098
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:14.760
Oh, wonderful.

1099
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:15.780
I love it.

1100
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:17.099
You can buy those.

1101
00:57:17.099 --> 00:57:20.519
Oh, I would, I would absolutely go...

1102
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:30.659
And just put that in his face and go, And of course, at the same time in this plot, which is the Christina, we're about to get our 1st corn as well.

1103
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:38.579
Sorry, this is for those that can't see this, an enormous gaunt tail, has just flicked into view as Christine goes along the corridors.

1104
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:42.539
It's a tail that is inside some space armour.

1105
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.260
Because the goner wearing...

1106
00:57:46.260 --> 00:57:48.539
They're squeezed into their own little spacesuits with lights.

1107
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:50.039
So the face is all lit.

1108
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:50.880
Look at her.

1109
00:57:50.940 --> 00:57:51.539
It looks great.

1110
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.820
It's all in silhouette here.

1111
00:57:54.179 --> 00:57:54.539
Yeah, yeah.

1112
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:56.519
Oh, he blinks inside the space.

1113
00:57:56.579 --> 00:57:57.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1114
00:57:57.179 --> 00:57:58.679
And bears his teeth and stuff.

1115
00:57:58.739 --> 00:58:00.659
I didn't realise there was anyone still alive.

1116
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:03.719
And again, because she's encountered the gone close up.

1117
00:58:03.780 --> 00:58:05.579
You know, she's properly scared.

1118
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:07.139
She's not getting to speak or anything.

1119
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.320
Do you imagine sort of, you know, I know they eat the ones that are dead.

1120
00:58:10.380 --> 00:58:12.179
Are they quite genial with each other, look gone?

1121
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:12.840
you imagine?

1122
00:58:12.900 --> 00:58:15.900
No, the youth, the other language, don't they?

1123
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:21.300
Yeah, and we will learn more about the Gorn later this season because...

1124
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:25.619
So he's CGI now, the one in the shuttle. yeah, yeah.

1125
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:26.820
We sort of jump between the two.

1126
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.219
We don't really get to... close-up that was CGI.

1127
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:30.719
That's the puppet.

1128
00:58:30.780 --> 00:58:32.099
The alien shot.

1129
00:58:32.219 --> 00:58:35.940
It was the Ripley alien shot from the side, but with Marie.

1130
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:37.199
Yeah, from Alien 3.

1131
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:43.559
But there's shorthand storytelling because we know as the audience because we've seen Alien 3.

1132
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:53.099
We know that she's infected now because the reason that the alien doesn't attack Ripley in Alien 3 is because she's carrying the...

1133
00:58:53.099 --> 00:58:54.300
A pike's like, no.

1134
00:58:55.139 --> 00:58:56.340
This is not the motor...

1135
00:58:56.340 --> 00:58:57.780
What her eye of the tools?

1136
00:58:57.780 --> 00:59:02.460
not to attack and she's trying to, um, Scott is still looking awkward like that.

1137
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:02.940
Yeah.

1138
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.820
I'll go over here and fiddle with some things while you have this fire.

1139
00:59:05.940 --> 00:59:07.260
I haven't been with a couple.

1140
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:09.960
And I just fiddle about with the wires, please.

1141
00:59:10.019 --> 00:59:11.219
While they have the fight.

1142
00:59:12.059 --> 00:59:15.059
He's got great body language, Scott.

1143
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:15.900
He's really good.

1144
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:17.460
He just does comedy so well.

1145
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.500
I just want him to look awkward in every scene.

1146
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:23.579
I mean, he doesn't too, when she's putting all those huge expectations on him.

1147
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:25.860
Why the fuck did you say that?

1148
00:59:27.539 --> 00:59:28.980
Right.

1149
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:31.860
We're 35 minutes in, we are cooking with gas now.

1150
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:33.659
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1151
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:38.039
So Spock is, we're on the bridge, aren't we, of the Cayuga at this point.

1152
00:59:38.940 --> 00:59:41.039
Look at all these ladies.

1153
00:59:41.099 --> 00:59:43.019
There's not a man inside.

1154
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:44.039
Oh, no.

1155
00:59:44.099 --> 00:59:46.860
Just like the console there. because Spock's not there.

1156
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:49.500
Yeah, I know it's great, isn't it, in the background?

1157
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:51.360
It looks like a snake, doesn't it?

1158
00:59:51.420 --> 00:59:52.260
rearing up behind him.

1159
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:57.480
But they are leaning into the making it look like a xenomorph, you know, from alien, aren't they?

1160
00:59:57.539 --> 00:59:58.679
Why wouldn't you?

1161
00:59:58.739 --> 00:59:59.460
Yeah, well that's right.

1162
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:00.119
Come on.

1163
01:00:00.179 --> 01:00:03.480
I mean, think of that terrible mask, fucking TOS.

1164
01:00:04.739 --> 01:00:06.480
Oh my god.

1165
01:00:06.539 --> 01:00:08.099
I just love he's in a space suit.

1166
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:09.840
Yeah, it's so camp.

1167
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:12.900
Yeah.

1168
01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:14.639
Better than the cocktail dress.

1169
01:00:14.699 --> 01:00:16.500
Oh, maybe not than the cocktail.

1170
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:20.039
And we're all in 0 G. We're doing a fight in 0 now.

1171
01:00:20.099 --> 01:00:22.980
So everyone's sort of dancing around balletically.

1172
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:28.380
We do a trying to pick up the gun before the other person picks up the gun. use your fucking tail.

1173
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:30.719
For God's sake, you got a massive tail.

1174
01:00:30.780 --> 01:00:31.500
Just whip them.

1175
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:33.719
And it sort of serrated as well.

1176
01:00:33.780 --> 01:00:34.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1177
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:35.340
It looks great.

1178
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:36.840
It's like a bread.

1179
01:00:36.900 --> 01:00:37.440
Oh, okay.

1180
01:00:37.500 --> 01:00:39.960
She's got to try and get the phaser, but it's floating over there.

1181
01:00:40.019 --> 01:00:40.860
Yeah.

1182
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:43.019
And meanwhile, the gorn is using its tail.

1183
01:00:43.019 --> 01:00:44.460
It's trying to strangle Ethan.

1184
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:47.460
Right in this script. so excited at this point.

1185
01:00:47.579 --> 01:00:49.139
Will she reach the phaser?

1186
01:00:49.260 --> 01:00:52.619
There we go Yeah, it's like outside the window.

1187
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:54.179
Like she has to...

1188
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:55.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1189
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.659
Actually, you know, I don't think that works, you know.

1190
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.239
If you kick against space, you just keep going.

1191
01:01:00.300 --> 01:01:02.039
You don't stop yourself, can you?

1192
01:01:02.099 --> 01:01:04.019
She's holding onto the railing.

1193
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:04.800
Oh okay.

1194
01:01:04.860 --> 01:01:05.519
All right.

1195
01:01:05.579 --> 01:01:06.360
Yeah.

1196
01:01:06.420 --> 01:01:07.860
No, she shot it.

1197
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:09.900
Now we're going to stab it in the face.

1198
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:10.559
Yes, yes.

1199
01:01:10.619 --> 01:01:11.099
Yes.

1200
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:13.019
Finally, some...

1201
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.820
So he does stab it and then all the air starts coming out.

1202
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:19.019
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1203
01:01:19.019 --> 01:01:20.460
He's got a sort of cracked visor now.

1204
01:01:20.460 --> 01:01:21.599
And she stabbed it.

1205
01:01:21.659 --> 01:01:23.820
He stabbed it in the head as well, like it went into his head.

1206
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:24.960
But also he can't breathe.

1207
01:01:25.019 --> 01:01:27.239
Which is, you know, I hear that as an impairment.

1208
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:32.639
But I love how they do this because it's still, you're like, it's not dead and then we see the moment it dies.

1209
01:01:32.699 --> 01:01:34.500
No, she doesn't need to.

1210
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:35.699
Look, it's about to die.

1211
01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:37.079
There it is.

1212
01:01:37.139 --> 01:01:38.159
And it's limp.

1213
01:01:38.219 --> 01:01:38.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1214
01:01:38.820 --> 01:01:39.420
It's really good.

1215
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.360
But its claws are still just... gently.

1216
01:01:42.420 --> 01:01:43.440
Yeah, here we go.

1217
01:01:43.500 --> 01:01:44.579
Why did the corn run away?

1218
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:45.599
I don't know.

1219
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:46.920
Scott has got a torch in it.

1220
01:01:46.980 --> 01:01:48.239
No, it's not a ball.

1221
01:01:48.300 --> 01:01:51.000
He's not participating in this conversation. the way he's sitting.

1222
01:01:51.059 --> 01:01:52.380
I'll come and sit on your Scotty.

1223
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:53.159
I'll keep this straight.

1224
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:55.559
Yeah.

1225
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:57.480
Murray's so the actress.

1226
01:01:57.539 --> 01:01:58.019
What's her?

1227
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:01.679
She is called Melanie Scroffinol.

1228
01:02:01.739 --> 01:02:03.179
Melanie Scroffenol?

1229
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:04.139
I think you're fabulous.

1230
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:05.039
Yeah, she's awesome.

1231
01:02:05.099 --> 01:02:05.340
Yeah.

1232
01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:06.420
She's really good.

1233
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:10.500
And you know what I really love as well is how Anson Moun.

1234
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:17.340
He never, ever steps on his female costars in a way that inadvertently it does happen in 90s trek.

1235
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:17.940
Yeah, yeah.

1236
01:02:17.940 --> 01:02:21.900
Yeah, well, not with Nanar, obviously, but with some of the female guest characters.

1237
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:22.619
Okay.

1238
01:02:22.619 --> 01:02:24.420
Well, think of Robert Duncan McNeil.

1239
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:25.739
They're flying out of the theme.

1240
01:02:25.860 --> 01:02:27.840
Talking of Robert Duncan McNeil.

1241
01:02:27.900 --> 01:02:28.920
It's day of honour.

1242
01:02:28.980 --> 01:02:32.940
Two spacesuits in space dancing around together.

1243
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:36.119
And their faces are there that, like, it's clearly them.

1244
01:02:36.179 --> 01:02:36.900
It looks amazing.

1245
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:41.039
Here's to tell you now that day of honour did not look like it.

1246
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.559
It's just a load of black stars. unfortunately.

1247
01:02:43.619 --> 01:02:45.840
But it is this exact shot.

1248
01:02:48.059 --> 01:02:50.579
Well, I think it's allowed, right?

1249
01:02:50.699 --> 01:02:51.659
They've just escaped.

1250
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.019
They still, you know, they still like one another.

1251
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:57.659
Oh no, that ensign's just waking up in the ship.

1252
01:02:57.719 --> 01:02:59.820
Yeah, shut him down.

1253
01:02:59.820 --> 01:03:00.420
Hello?

1254
01:03:00.420 --> 01:03:01.440
Is anyone here?

1255
01:03:03.179 --> 01:03:03.780
That would be me.

1256
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:04.320
I know.

1257
01:03:04.380 --> 01:03:05.880
We get a call back to Hammer.

1258
01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:07.619
Yeah, of course.

1259
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.260
Yeah, he was a wonderful character as well.

1260
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:11.400
I wonder why he left.

1261
01:03:11.460 --> 01:03:15.360
Oh, I think that he was never going to be a...

1262
01:03:15.420 --> 01:03:16.559
Oh, they're just like working with him.

1263
01:03:16.619 --> 01:03:17.340
Do more than one.

1264
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:17.699
Come on.

1265
01:03:17.820 --> 01:03:18.719
No, no, yeah.

1266
01:03:18.780 --> 01:03:24.179
I think he was just going to be in some and then they put him in more, but the idea was always to kill him off.

1267
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:26.159
Well, if you're a great deaf, will you?

1268
01:03:26.219 --> 01:03:27.119
And it is a great ass.

1269
01:03:27.179 --> 01:03:28.380
Yeah, yeah.

1270
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:31.320
And that's the 2nd gone episode, remember?

1271
01:03:31.380 --> 01:03:35.519
Because there had been a previous one that season where we don't see the gore, they're just in their ship.

1272
01:03:35.579 --> 01:03:37.320
But he manages anthem.

1273
01:03:37.380 --> 01:03:41.699
He manages to be a pike, a great leader, right?

1274
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:43.679
But also really sensitive.

1275
01:03:43.980 --> 01:03:47.639
It's just, it's such a well-gaged performance.

1276
01:03:47.699 --> 01:03:55.199
He never, he controls the room when he needs to, but he never steps on what everybody needs to do and he lets them all contribute.

1277
01:03:55.260 --> 01:03:56.039
Yeah, that's right.

1278
01:03:56.099 --> 01:04:00.420
It's the it's the suggestions and we just go round the bridge and people off suggestions.

1279
01:04:00.539 --> 01:04:02.760
You remember Bacula in Enterprise.

1280
01:04:02.820 --> 01:04:03.420
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1281
01:04:03.420 --> 01:04:04.559
Fucking stepping on everyone.

1282
01:04:04.619 --> 01:04:06.780
That's being a pompous prick all the time.

1283
01:04:06.900 --> 01:04:08.099
Like we've learned some lessons.

1284
01:04:08.460 --> 01:04:10.380
Oh, what's happening?

1285
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:13.860
So we are, what's happening?

1286
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.980
Are we beaming, who are we beaming up?

1287
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:19.800
Are we beaming Chris and Marie?

1288
01:04:19.860 --> 01:04:21.059
No, we're beaming Spy.

1289
01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:22.920
Oh, okay, we're Beaming Spock and Christine.

1290
01:04:22.980 --> 01:04:25.019
I keep forgetting her name with the long hair.

1291
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:26.159
Who?

1292
01:04:26.219 --> 01:04:27.840
She just left the room.

1293
01:04:27.900 --> 01:04:28.679
Pelia.

1294
01:04:28.739 --> 01:04:29.340
Hell yeah.

1295
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:31.860
She walks out of a room as awkwardly as my mom.

1296
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:33.000
Did you see her?

1297
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.780
about her is idiosyncratic.

1298
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:38.099
I love her.

1299
01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:40.079
This too.

1300
01:04:40.139 --> 01:04:42.119
It's okay, Spock.

1301
01:04:42.179 --> 01:04:43.679
You don't have to apologise.

1302
01:04:43.739 --> 01:04:45.420
We'll just do this thing.

1303
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:46.380
We'll worry about it later.

1304
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:47.880
Can I have one snog, though?

1305
01:04:47.940 --> 01:04:50.340
No, it's so pressy when they snot together.

1306
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:51.599
She has a fiancé.

1307
01:04:51.659 --> 01:04:56.519
Oh, look, here are the colonists of Veridian 5 being beamed up by...

1308
01:04:56.579 --> 01:04:57.960
Look at that big.

1309
01:04:58.019 --> 01:05:00.420
No, we're just beaming up these people into Sick Bay.

1310
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:02.340
Look at Scotty.

1311
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:06.659
Oh, that too, when he just hugs her.

1312
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:09.539
It's so good, isn't it?

1313
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:11.219
Do they save all the colonists at the end?

1314
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:11.880
They do.

1315
01:05:11.940 --> 01:05:14.699
They get beamed out, but a lot of them are dead already.

1316
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:18.059
We don't need those people.

1317
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:19.920
You know, we need the regulars.

1318
01:05:19.980 --> 01:05:20.760
Yeah, that's true.

1319
01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:22.320
And Patel.

1320
01:05:22.500 --> 01:05:23.820
Bit of a sadist, aren't I?

1321
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.280
I do like a bit of death in Star Trek, though.

1322
01:05:26.340 --> 01:05:26.940
It's quite fun.

1323
01:05:27.300 --> 01:05:31.440
I still want it to be fun. shit when people are being melted, you know?

1324
01:05:31.500 --> 01:05:33.539
Yeah, I want it to be fun rather than gruelling.

1325
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.059
What do they do with the melted people?

1326
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.159
You sort of suck them out with a straw, I suppose.

1327
01:05:38.219 --> 01:05:39.420
Oh, yeah.

1328
01:05:39.420 --> 01:05:41.159
I'll give it.

1329
01:05:41.219 --> 01:05:41.940
Look at Pelia.

1330
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.039
Pellier and Scotty meeting for the 1st time.

1331
01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:49.320
One of my best students who sadly received some of my worst grades.

1332
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:55.800
I'll leave you to it. is this supposed to be?

1333
01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:57.840
That's so Scotty.

1334
01:05:57.900 --> 01:05:59.940
A load of coffins and some rope.

1335
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.219
Oh, they're great to get that.

1336
01:06:02.219 --> 01:06:03.360
It gets even better.

1337
01:06:03.420 --> 01:06:04.860
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1338
01:06:05.099 --> 01:06:07.079
Oh, dear.

1339
01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:10.260
A gone destroyer has just arrived, my God.

1340
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:12.300
Look, and they're all coming.

1341
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:13.739
All of the going are coming.

1342
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:14.400
Yes.

1343
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:15.239
This is what we wanted.

1344
01:06:15.300 --> 01:06:15.780
Yep.

1345
01:06:15.780 --> 01:06:16.260
Yep.

1346
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:18.360
Oh, it's that thing too.

1347
01:06:18.420 --> 01:06:19.500
They have a score, they're gone.

1348
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:20.340
Yes.

1349
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:30.719
So in fact, the musical theme for the Gorn all the way through this 2 parter is a musical quote from this, the, um, the score for Arena.

1350
01:06:30.780 --> 01:06:32.639
Do you know how it goes?

1351
01:06:32.699 --> 01:06:33.420
I can't remember.

1352
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:35.940
Yeah, but I definitely recognised it.

1353
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:40.440
So we do get that all the way through, which is becomes the Gorm theme, which I think is pretty great.

1354
01:06:40.500 --> 01:06:42.599
As memorable as the doomsday machine.

1355
01:06:42.659 --> 01:06:44.760
It's as memorable as the doomsday machine.

1356
01:06:44.820 --> 01:06:48.539
It's also as memorable as amuck time as well.

1357
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:50.039
I can't remember that one.

1358
01:06:50.099 --> 01:06:54.119
You know, da, da, da, da, da.

1359
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:54.480
Yeah.

1360
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.719
Welcome to the Star Trek music podcast.

1361
01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:03.179
Unfortunately, we have a decade off.

1362
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:05.639
That's right.

1363
01:07:05.699 --> 01:07:07.199
Oh my god.

1364
01:07:07.260 --> 01:07:09.719
The camera went straight through the window.

1365
01:07:09.780 --> 01:07:10.440
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1366
01:07:10.500 --> 01:07:12.059
Awesome stuff.

1367
01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:14.340
Just look how dirty and bruised everybody is.

1368
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:15.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1369
01:07:15.539 --> 01:07:16.739
It's really good, isn't it?

1370
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:17.820
Mattel as well.

1371
01:07:17.940 --> 01:07:19.739
Oh, shitting, how?

1372
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:21.840
Those eggs are really close.

1373
01:07:21.900 --> 01:07:23.940
How quickly do they eat through somebody?

1374
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.119
So she says that Christina says a day and a half?

1375
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:28.260
Rocks.

1376
01:07:28.260 --> 01:07:29.039
Sorry.

1377
01:07:29.099 --> 01:07:29.820
Yep, there you go.

1378
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:31.619
Well done.

1379
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:32.880
It's so great.

1380
01:07:32.940 --> 01:07:35.400
Did you see how many rocks were in the corridor then?

1381
01:07:35.460 --> 01:07:36.119
Who was that?

1382
01:07:36.179 --> 01:07:37.079
That's the guy.

1383
01:07:37.139 --> 01:07:39.179
The only guy on the bridge gets to do it.

1384
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:40.920
Do love a slow motion stump.

1385
01:07:40.980 --> 01:07:42.239
There's lots of sparks.

1386
01:07:42.300 --> 01:07:43.139
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1387
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:44.159
It's proper stuff.

1388
01:07:44.219 --> 01:07:44.880
Oh my god.

1389
01:07:44.940 --> 01:07:47.099
Everything's exploding.

1390
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:49.320
This is proper cliffhanger pirates.

1391
01:07:49.380 --> 01:07:50.820
Finally, we're in danger.

1392
01:07:50.940 --> 01:07:55.139
And it's this sort of, I don't know, like, what am I to do?

1393
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:57.360
So this is this is...

1394
01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.340
What's the dilemma?

1395
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:03.300
Um, do we, we're being ordered to retreat?

1396
01:08:03.420 --> 01:08:05.340
Oh, do we leave them all today?

1397
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:05.880
What do we do?

1398
01:08:05.940 --> 01:08:08.039
And then he...

1399
01:08:08.099 --> 01:08:09.179
Well, we know he's not gonna do that.

1400
01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:15.239
No, but having him in that moment of crisis and just closing on his face and then we're done.

1401
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.760
To be continued in 2 years.

1402
01:08:17.819 --> 01:08:18.840
In 2 years.

1403
01:08:18.899 --> 01:08:19.500
Yeah.

1404
01:08:19.500 --> 01:08:20.699
Great.

1405
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:21.659
Don't think we knew that.

1406
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:22.859
That's not what was planned.

1407
01:08:23.699 --> 01:08:24.659
God, that was great.

1408
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:26.640
That last 10 minutes was fucking incredible.

1409
01:08:26.699 --> 01:08:30.539
I mean, I will say, I do think is a problem that it takes that long.

1410
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:34.439
I know you want a big impact when the the gorn finally attack.

1411
01:08:34.500 --> 01:08:36.000
Like, when it's 90s trek.

1412
01:08:36.060 --> 01:08:40.439
Yeah, happy for people to just stand around in rooms talking for 40 minutes.

1413
01:08:40.500 --> 01:08:43.439
Yeah, that's because that's all we do in...

1414
01:08:43.500 --> 01:08:45.359
There's no hope for dynamic action there.

1415
01:08:45.420 --> 01:08:47.279
Whereas they can, though.

1416
01:08:47.340 --> 01:08:49.800
That horror episode they did in series one.

1417
01:08:49.859 --> 01:09:01.560
It's from like 10 minutes in, and it's claustrophobic and it's grisly and it's action-packed and people are being dragged down corridors. and I know you can't do that every time they go on appear.

1418
01:09:01.619 --> 01:09:09.779
But I do think, what, nearly 40 minutes of waiting to get to the real danger that our people are in.

1419
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:11.100
That is kind of a problem.

1420
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:14.520
But when we get there, now it doesn't stop.

1421
01:09:14.579 --> 01:09:18.840
Now it's 50 minutes plus of nonstop action.

1422
01:09:18.899 --> 01:09:30.479
It's that thing which I think is always great, like in a Doctor Who cliffhanger or whenever there's a two-parter, when you come back, the trouble with best of both worlds is, then we lose all the attention.

1423
01:09:30.539 --> 01:09:30.960
Yeah.

1424
01:09:31.020 --> 01:09:37.859
The only real tension in two is it's that wonderful scene between Guynan and Riker.

1425
01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:40.079
Yeah, yeah, where she's going, well, I forward.

1426
01:09:40.140 --> 01:09:42.000
I'm willing to let him go.

1427
01:09:42.060 --> 01:09:42.359
Yeah.

1428
01:09:42.420 --> 01:09:43.680
And he's like, well, I'm not.

1429
01:09:43.739 --> 01:09:44.340
Yeah.

1430
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:51.720
But here, it just gets worse and it ramps up and up and there's 3 parallel plots going.

1431
01:09:51.779 --> 01:09:54.600
So there's Patel and the eggs.

1432
01:09:54.659 --> 01:10:04.920
There is uh, the, you know, Laan and Erika and Mabenga and and Kirk on the gone shit.

1433
01:10:04.979 --> 01:10:11.760
And then there's what's going on here where we're trying to get the get the gone signal sent.

1434
01:10:11.819 --> 01:10:18.539
And in in best of both worlds, they just send a signal, Picard just says, sleep, and they just send a radio message.

1435
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.180
Whereas here they have to do a list stellar engine.

1436
01:10:21.180 --> 01:10:23.100
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1437
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:26.399
Although, do you remember my reaction when we were watching it the other day and I went, what?

1438
01:10:26.460 --> 01:10:28.020
Every Gorman is gone.

1439
01:10:28.140 --> 01:10:29.640
Oh, fucking hell.

1440
01:10:29.699 --> 01:10:33.000
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. genre shows are always good.

1441
01:10:33.060 --> 01:10:35.760
Can't we just leave a couple to deal with at a later date?

1442
01:10:35.819 --> 01:10:39.239
Well, in fact, we do see, we do see it going later in the season.

1443
01:10:39.300 --> 01:10:42.960
They could have done a Twilight Zone style ending, which is one go ongoing left.

1444
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:43.680
On the platform.

1445
01:10:43.739 --> 01:10:49.500
But it turns out that they will talk about this next time because we discover stuff about the Gorn.

1446
01:10:49.619 --> 01:10:55.260
I mean, what's so funny is how scales change over the years.

1447
01:10:55.319 --> 01:11:00.539
So best of both worlds, you know, the Borg are going to attack Earth and it's 3 cubes.

1448
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:02.460
Yeah, fucking hell.

1449
01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:06.840
And then we sort of get to do something when we can start doing impressive CGI.

1450
01:11:06.899 --> 01:11:13.800
And so it's, you know, 1500 Dominion ships heading towards Earth at one point or Deep Space 9.

1451
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:25.619
And then here now, it's, in fact, they pull back from the scale because there's not that many ships in the 2nd one, but it's just more visually impressive and it feels, it feels dangerous.

1452
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:32.220
You know, because you're there, you're in the wreckage. you're in the atmosphere with that terrifying ship.

1453
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:33.239
Yeah, you know.

1454
01:11:33.300 --> 01:11:34.260
It's pretty great.

1455
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:39.779
The 2nd episode, which, you know, I'm already talking about that kind of is cinema.

1456
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:41.939
Yeah, 0 yeah. we should go and watch it.

1457
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:43.140
Okay, then.

1458
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:44.819
I will count us in.

1459
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:46.380
Yeah, break on the gore.

1460
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:48.840
Go on Gore.

1461
01:11:48.899 --> 01:11:49.500
All right.

1462
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:56.220
Five, four, three, two, one, and we're off.

1463
01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.460
Okay, so the ident.

1464
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:03.840
All happening?

1465
01:12:03.899 --> 01:12:06.899
It sort of got a lovely pride flag going behind it there, doesn't it?

1466
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:09.300
Yeah, making the combat.

1467
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:11.880
Yeah Batchy.

1468
01:12:11.939 --> 01:12:12.659
It is badgy.

1469
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:13.140
Yeah.

1470
01:12:13.380 --> 01:12:14.819
Okay.

1471
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:17.760
We're going to get a great previously on now.

1472
01:12:17.819 --> 01:12:21.119
Oh, yeah, look at that thing coming through the atmosphere.

1473
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:22.560
The smoke and the ash.

1474
01:12:22.619 --> 01:12:23.520
Yeah, yeah, yeah. around it.

1475
01:12:23.579 --> 01:12:24.779
It looks so massive.

1476
01:12:24.899 --> 01:12:25.619
It's so big.

1477
01:12:25.739 --> 01:12:27.239
And different.

1478
01:12:27.300 --> 01:12:28.859
I think that is kind of important.

1479
01:12:28.979 --> 01:12:31.560
It's the fact that you can't quite see what it is as well.

1480
01:12:31.619 --> 01:12:36.119
And you've already seen just a normal, you know, a shuttle coming through the air too.

1481
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:38.399
Yeah.

1482
01:12:38.460 --> 01:12:39.239
Okay.

1483
01:12:39.300 --> 01:12:41.760
So, and there's it looks so great.

1484
01:12:41.819 --> 01:12:44.460
In the...

1485
01:12:44.460 --> 01:12:46.619
When we see any in space suits in 2, do we?

1486
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:48.659
No, I don't know. don't remember.

1487
01:12:48.779 --> 01:12:52.500
We do see them, though, when, you know, they get out the sacks and loads of them attack.

1488
01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:53.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1489
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:54.180
It's great.

1490
01:12:54.300 --> 01:12:56.279
Yeah, we do get plenty of...

1491
01:12:56.460 --> 01:12:59.039
Yeah, that's funny.

1492
01:12:59.100 --> 01:13:00.359
Oh keep an eye out.

1493
01:13:00.420 --> 01:13:05.340
I'm not sure whether he gets to be in the opening credits yet or not.

1494
01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:07.260
Okay, well, he will eventually.

1495
01:13:07.260 --> 01:13:09.180
In between singing the music.

1496
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:10.140
I will take the.

1497
01:13:10.260 --> 01:13:11.579
We'll keep an eye out for it.

1498
01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:16.020
Yeah, I know, I know you don't want to see Gaun's breaking out of Marie.

1499
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:18.420
No, but I was a little disappointed.

1500
01:13:19.619 --> 01:13:21.539
Oh, look all those rocks fabulous.

1501
01:13:21.659 --> 01:13:24.119
No, please, I haven't forgotten that.

1502
01:13:24.180 --> 01:13:25.079
Yeah, here it is.

1503
01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:28.680
Admiral April's ordering our immediate withdrawal.

1504
01:13:28.739 --> 01:13:32.880
It was in the actual previously on.

1505
01:13:32.939 --> 01:13:34.380
And then they say...

1506
01:13:34.380 --> 01:13:36.840
Now we get the conclusion and you watch.

1507
01:13:36.899 --> 01:13:38.880
They just misrememember his orders.

1508
01:13:38.939 --> 01:13:40.500
Oh, death.

1509
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:42.659
I suppose that's a continuity person.

1510
01:13:43.979 --> 01:13:45.239
Yep, that's how we start.

1511
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:45.840
A lot faster.

1512
01:13:45.899 --> 01:13:47.579
See, the pace now.

1513
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:48.479
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1514
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:49.979
The giant gaunt ship.

1515
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:52.380
So good.

1516
01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:54.239
I can't quite make them out.

1517
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:58.140
Yeah, they, I mean, they whirl around, which is pretty great.

1518
01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:00.659
And so there's never a clear up or down.

1519
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:04.319
And then the gone ship there again is just a strange shape.

1520
01:14:04.380 --> 01:14:08.399
I do not object to the fast camera work during an action sequence.

1521
01:14:08.460 --> 01:14:10.079
Okay, especially when we're in space.

1522
01:14:10.140 --> 01:14:10.500
Here we go.

1523
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:12.659
Ahura, repeat his last order.

1524
01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:15.359
She says retreating rendezvous with the fleet, sir.

1525
01:14:15.420 --> 01:14:17.760
He gave coordinates, but he did say immediately.

1526
01:14:17.819 --> 01:14:18.600
No.

1527
01:14:18.659 --> 01:14:19.380
Oh, really?

1528
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:20.640
Because I thought he did.

1529
01:14:20.699 --> 01:14:23.220
He just said, but didn't he say immediately?

1530
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:24.659
That's what the subtitle says.

1531
01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:29.220
Oh, maybe he's maybe Anson got the line wrong.

1532
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:32.880
They're working.

1533
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:34.979
The subtitle is like, no, we can correct this.

1534
01:14:35.100 --> 01:14:37.680
No, they might be working from the school.

1535
01:14:37.739 --> 01:14:39.779
Maybe talk very quickly about Celius hair.

1536
01:14:39.899 --> 01:14:40.560
Yes.

1537
01:14:40.619 --> 01:14:51.000
So, Celia Gooding Jr, as I like to think, Celia Rose is jamming her new long hair under a wig, and so she has this giant...

1538
01:14:51.060 --> 01:14:52.199
You are right.

1539
01:14:52.260 --> 01:14:53.880
It ends a bit more dramatic.

1540
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:57.600
It goes off at the back, doesn't it?

1541
01:14:57.659 --> 01:14:59.159
What was that film called?

1542
01:14:59.220 --> 01:15:00.000
Was it Conheads?

1543
01:15:00.060 --> 01:15:00.420
Yeah, yeah.

1544
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:00.960
Yeah, yeah.

1545
01:15:01.020 --> 01:15:03.180
In sort of a side shop.

1546
01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:04.859
And there are a few of those.

1547
01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:05.819
There are a few.

1548
01:15:05.819 --> 01:15:11.100
In fact, even Ethan's hair is a bit longer than the last episode.

1549
01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:21.479
Next week, next week's episode, episode two, we get Christina coming back from her three-month internship with Roger Corby, who becomes a semi-regular character in series three.

1550
01:15:21.539 --> 01:15:23.640
That's a sensible move.

1551
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:24.899
He's Irish.

1552
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:30.720
Ah, and that gives us time to see...

1553
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:31.079
Yeah.

1554
01:15:31.140 --> 01:15:32.579
Which is great.

1555
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:36.359
So she has much cute, she's got a much cuter little hairdo.

1556
01:15:36.420 --> 01:15:38.460
I mean, I live in England.

1557
01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:42.779
So I generally age 2 years in 3 months at the moment anyway.

1558
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:46.800
So I understand, you know, there's constantly Americans probably age.

1559
01:15:46.859 --> 01:15:48.060
You know what I mean?

1560
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:49.619
Faster on the news. yeah.

1561
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:51.720
Yeah, sort of 2 years every day.

1562
01:15:51.779 --> 01:15:52.979
Yeah, that's right.

1563
01:15:53.100 --> 01:15:55.619
What's that about paracetamol?

1564
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:55.979
Okay.

1565
01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:59.399
Also, I'm ageing as well.

1566
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.199
Inertial dampness to maximum. what we want.

1567
01:16:04.260 --> 01:16:07.859
I will say whilst we were talking about Celia's hair there.

1568
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:11.520
Just spectacular... is effectual happening.

1569
01:16:11.579 --> 01:16:12.659
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1570
01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:13.020
Yeah.

1571
01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:13.979
I mean, this sounds great.

1572
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:16.380
That whole corn field, it looked like a massive octopus.

1573
01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:16.979
Did you see it?

1574
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:18.060
The Enos?

1575
01:16:18.060 --> 01:16:19.140
Oh.

1576
01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:19.800
Yeah.

1577
01:16:19.859 --> 01:16:23.340
I will keep shouting rocks every time I see them. smashing into the ship.

1578
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.199
This cinema.

1579
01:16:25.260 --> 01:16:27.180
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1580
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:33.659
So what the plan is that they're firing torpedoes into this giant ship, but one has a tracker on it.

1581
01:16:33.779 --> 01:16:36.779
And so they're gonna be able to track the ship.

1582
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:39.060
Do that affect normally when we go to warp?

1583
01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:40.739
That was quite impressive.

1584
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:43.199
What's it called, that sort of pull back and...

1585
01:16:43.260 --> 01:16:43.920
Yeah, but yeah, yeah.

1586
01:16:43.979 --> 01:16:45.060
No, it's the dolly where you...

1587
01:16:45.060 --> 01:16:46.680
The jaws are fake, isn't it?

1588
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:47.699
Yeah, yeah, yeah. the same time.

1589
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:49.020
It was the 1st time it was done, I think.

1590
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:50.880
Okay, so we're keeping an eye out.

1591
01:16:50.939 --> 01:16:52.140
Jess's credit.

1592
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:53.460
Christina.

1593
01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:55.439
Oh, what a fabulous cast.

1594
01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:56.699
Celia Rose Gooding.

1595
01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:57.119
Yeah.

1596
01:16:57.119 --> 01:16:59.039
Fabulous, Melissa Nivia.

1597
01:16:59.100 --> 01:16:59.460
Who's that?

1598
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:01.680
That's um, uh, Vegas.

1599
01:17:01.739 --> 01:17:02.399
Who's Mabs?

1600
01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:03.300
Mabenga.

1601
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:04.380
There's Martin Queen there.

1602
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:07.560
Ah, he's like, yes. played it, right?

1603
01:17:07.619 --> 01:17:15.119
Oh, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

1604
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:15.779
It's so good.

1605
01:17:15.779 --> 01:17:19.439
Okay, let's see where we're going new.

1606
01:17:19.619 --> 01:17:24.960
I love you, I think. sort of the Gothic planet there, which was green lightning.

1607
01:17:25.020 --> 01:17:26.220
Well, that was kind of boring.

1608
01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:27.720
Standard Voyager Planet.

1609
01:17:27.779 --> 01:17:29.579
Well, there you go. a bit of voyager there for you.

1610
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:31.680
Oh, this is a bit, boy.

1611
01:17:31.739 --> 01:17:33.960
Would you go and pass some nice sort of asteroid?

1612
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:35.520
No, it's a comet, isn't it?

1613
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:37.020
Now we're going through, of course.

1614
01:17:37.079 --> 01:17:38.340
That's too annoying.

1615
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:39.300
Yeah, yeah.

1616
01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:41.039
Don't tell me these are kisses to the past.

1617
01:17:41.100 --> 01:17:42.600
Oh, what's happening here?

1618
01:17:42.659 --> 01:17:43.680
No, they wouldn't have done that.

1619
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:44.460
We've had that before.

1620
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:48.539
And this look rocks and there's a Klingon going off into the distance.

1621
01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:51.060
Fabulous sort of tower thing.

1622
01:17:51.060 --> 01:17:52.199
Water planet there.

1623
01:17:52.260 --> 01:17:52.800
Yeah.

1624
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.319
Launch the runabouts.

1625
01:17:55.380 --> 01:17:56.399
It's a shuttle.

1626
01:17:56.460 --> 01:17:57.539
It's not a runabout.

1627
01:17:57.600 --> 01:17:58.560
Oh, look at this.

1628
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:01.619
Another shot of a different shot of Starbase one.

1629
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:04.680
Why have they got those huge landscapes in domes?

1630
01:18:04.739 --> 01:18:05.880
So you could go on holiday.

1631
01:18:05.939 --> 01:18:09.000
You now have to go back to Earth and visit your parents, you know.

1632
01:18:09.060 --> 01:18:11.039
Right, so wasn't a thing at this point, no?

1633
01:18:11.100 --> 01:18:12.300
No, it hadn't been discovered.

1634
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:14.279
Okay, imagine when they found the sex planet.

1635
01:18:14.340 --> 01:18:15.359
I bet it was Kirk.

1636
01:18:15.420 --> 01:18:16.800
Any money.

1637
01:18:16.859 --> 01:18:21.119
It's a little bit more chased than he gets credit for, actually, I think.

1638
01:18:21.180 --> 01:18:26.399
We meet a lot of his old girlfriends, but he doesn't get laid.

1639
01:18:26.460 --> 01:18:27.479
Come on, Chris Fisher.

1640
01:18:27.539 --> 01:18:29.880
You're getting all the action to direct this time.

1641
01:18:29.939 --> 01:18:31.260
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1642
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:32.939
It's a different director from the previous one.

1643
01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:34.079
Pablo Picasso.

1644
01:18:34.140 --> 01:18:35.399
The USS Pablo Picasso.

1645
01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:39.180
I would have thought he'd be too cancelled to get a...

1646
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:40.979
That's quite a great name, isn't it?

1647
01:18:41.100 --> 01:18:41.640
April.

1648
01:18:41.699 --> 01:18:48.659
So there is an Admiral Robert April in the original series and he was the previous captain of the Enterprise.

1649
01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:52.140
So it's April, then Pike, then Kerr.

1650
01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:54.060
What does work about these scenes?

1651
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:56.520
If we're not going to have her torn apart by the corn.

1652
01:18:56.579 --> 01:19:02.939
Boo, um, is, I think um, Nurse Chappell thinks that is going to happen.

1653
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:04.260
No matter what she's doing.

1654
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:07.859
She doesn't think it's gonna work. until she finds the solution.

1655
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:09.420
She's like, oh, fuck.

1656
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:13.319
Well, also, I think, like this, like, she is so charming.

1657
01:19:13.380 --> 01:19:19.079
His 2 women, you know, 2 competent professional women having this conversation.

1658
01:19:19.140 --> 01:19:20.640
It's really, really great to watch.

1659
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:22.979
And then Spot comes along.

1660
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:31.380
And so even though they've had left things on a bad note, we get them working together to save Marie's life and I think it's just great.

1661
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:32.520
It's so good.

1662
01:19:32.579 --> 01:19:37.079
I just love that these saints must annoy the wrong source Star Trek.

1663
01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:38.279
And competent women.

1664
01:19:38.939 --> 01:19:41.880
What's happened to the magic of Star Trek?

1665
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:43.560
I don't deserve Star Trek.

1666
01:19:44.100 --> 01:19:46.739
So, and of course, this doesn't work.

1667
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:50.340
She can't be put into cryosleep.

1668
01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:55.380
She reacts badly to the medication and so nothing is working.

1669
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:57.359
Imagine that's cordrosine there.

1670
01:19:57.420 --> 01:19:59.640
I like the fact it's blue and red, just like Beverly.

1671
01:19:59.699 --> 01:20:00.180
Yeah, yeah.

1672
01:20:00.300 --> 01:20:03.600
I love, she's got such a fabulous hypospray too.

1673
01:20:03.659 --> 01:20:04.380
That looks really good.

1674
01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:06.119
Her body is rejecting the serum.

1675
01:20:06.180 --> 01:20:06.539
Yeah.

1676
01:20:06.539 --> 01:20:07.500
Yeah.

1677
01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:08.579
Oh, don't tell him.

1678
01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:10.140
He got his own problems.

1679
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:13.140
Yeah, no, I know, but we just have to, we have.

1680
01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:15.180
She's allergic to the serum.

1681
01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:15.840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1682
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:18.479
For fuck's sake. as if my day wasn't bad enough.

1683
01:20:20.100 --> 01:20:24.000
Kirk is allergic to the serum that makes him not have to wear glasses.

1684
01:20:24.060 --> 01:20:24.899
Yes, than a day.

1685
01:20:24.899 --> 01:20:29.159
So before it was a day and a half, now it's less than a day. less than a day.

1686
01:20:29.220 --> 01:20:31.020
Oh my god, imagine that.

1687
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:32.579
What would you do with that day?

1688
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:34.380
Well, not a lot, really.

1689
01:20:34.979 --> 01:20:36.720
Yeah, that's right.

1690
01:20:36.779 --> 01:20:37.680
I think, yeah.

1691
01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:43.680
It's what makes the end scene, though, between Chris and Marie.

1692
01:20:43.739 --> 01:20:44.399
So good.

1693
01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:45.899
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1694
01:20:45.899 --> 01:20:49.020
And they haven't been together, you know, like I think he does turn up in the middle of it.

1695
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:54.720
I would want the pressure of having to save the captain's girlfriend from being eaten alive.

1696
01:20:54.779 --> 01:20:55.979
Yeah.

1697
01:20:55.979 --> 01:20:58.739
Well, you know, because everyone kind of matters.

1698
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.020
I mean, you know, but that's a big pressure.

1699
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:01.739
You know?

1700
01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:07.680
Like, you know, he could probably forgive most mistakes, but if she makes a mistake, Mike, he's so good.

1701
01:21:07.739 --> 01:21:08.760
He's such a nice man.

1702
01:21:08.819 --> 01:21:09.600
It would be all right.

1703
01:21:09.659 --> 01:21:10.979
Entire fleet ready to go.

1704
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:12.180
Oh my god, this is massive now.

1705
01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:15.300
So April's on board, like April's now on board.

1706
01:21:15.300 --> 01:21:17.220
Because we've had enough breathing room.

1707
01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:22.920
We've, the Gorn have gone, but we can track them whenever we want and now we get to get Bob on the ship.

1708
01:21:22.979 --> 01:21:24.359
Oh, these admirals.

1709
01:21:24.420 --> 01:21:26.159
We'll just do with this one thing at a time.

1710
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:28.800
Let's not think about the big picture, you know.

1711
01:21:28.859 --> 01:21:31.800
I do wish there was a bit of that discovery swear words now.

1712
01:21:31.859 --> 01:21:33.720
Yeah, you know, you're a prick.

1713
01:21:33.779 --> 01:21:35.520
No, because in fact, what he does.

1714
01:21:35.579 --> 01:21:44.340
Remember, he says, these are the regulations, this is the official position, you can't do anything, you know, blah, blah, blah. 1000000s of lives depend on us.

1715
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:46.020
And then he says, being wimps.

1716
01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:47.939
But then they talk about what he's really going to do.

1717
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:51.000
Like we changed the subject.

1718
01:21:51.060 --> 01:21:52.439
We are praise.

1719
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:55.680
Yeah, which is what La'an said in the previous episode.

1720
01:21:55.859 --> 01:22:02.340
And it's not just like not doing anything about it.

1721
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:10.199
It shows weakness and threatens the Federation more, but basically it looked like Bob was always just going to say, yeah, no, but what are you really going to do?

1722
01:22:10.260 --> 01:22:11.939
But I do love the message.

1723
01:22:12.060 --> 01:22:14.100
And what, you know, an old 90s trope.

1724
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:19.319
We saw it with Kira in one episode is when, you know, the admiral comes along and says, no, you're not going to do this thing.

1725
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:22.140
And then, you know, they go off and do it anyway.

1726
01:22:22.199 --> 01:22:22.859
I do like that.

1727
01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:25.260
But here they get permission from April, basically.

1728
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:26.880
Like back door permission.

1729
01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:28.319
Wipe the shit out of them.

1730
01:22:28.380 --> 01:22:30.300
Yeah, it doesn't quite say that.

1731
01:22:30.539 --> 01:22:33.239
Officially these are your orders.

1732
01:22:33.300 --> 01:22:38.220
But he's like, push the line back or something like that.

1733
01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:39.000
I remember now.

1734
01:22:39.060 --> 01:22:41.340
But we, yeah, and unofficially.

1735
01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:42.779
Yeah, so here we go.

1736
01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:43.619
What's happening here?

1737
01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:45.239
Yeah, what have you got planned?

1738
01:22:45.300 --> 01:22:47.159
said, why have I listened to that whole speech then?

1739
01:22:47.220 --> 01:22:48.420
Just tell me what you want me to do.

1740
01:22:48.479 --> 01:22:50.640
No, because he's asking him.

1741
01:22:50.699 --> 01:22:52.920
He's giving Chris's hand.

1742
01:22:52.979 --> 01:22:55.739
Now he's Hella. and Scott.

1743
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:57.060
Oh, this is the best.

1744
01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:58.020
This is the best.

1745
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:05.159
Now, 2 years later we are getting an exposition scene to explain what they're up to because this is nearly 2 years enough.

1746
01:23:05.220 --> 01:23:08.399
And it's a funny scene in itself.

1747
01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:10.800
We get that in the 90s when it's just been the summer.

1748
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:12.000
Yeah.

1749
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:17.340
It's like being back in the lecture hall. and that's what's fun too.

1750
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:25.439
I mean, she has literally lectured in engineering generations of Starfleet people because she's so old.

1751
01:23:25.500 --> 01:23:28.020
First rule, Sky. write it down.

1752
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:32.460
There's a reason we track our work no matter what the circumstance is.

1753
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:33.899
This thing here.

1754
01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:35.579
Now this scene is so funny.

1755
01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:38.399
There are some great scenes here, but his pint coming.

1756
01:23:38.460 --> 01:23:39.899
How long before you get that working?

1757
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:46.739
He's about to say, well, I can't get it to work, and she just immediately says, it'll be there by the time you're ready.

1758
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:50.939
Like, well, like...

1759
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:51.960
Yep, we'll do it.

1760
01:23:52.020 --> 01:23:53.939
And Scott is looking at her like, what?

1761
01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:55.140
Yeah, that's right.

1762
01:23:55.140 --> 01:23:58.199
She finds some ingenious way to get him to focus.

1763
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:01.020
Wow, that's no pressure.

1764
01:24:02.100 --> 01:24:04.199
That's quite good, actually.

1765
01:24:04.260 --> 01:24:04.680
Well done.

1766
01:24:04.979 --> 01:24:08.460
Oh my god, we're going in the corn ship.

1767
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:10.439
It looks amazing.

1768
01:24:10.500 --> 01:24:15.779
And again, this eccentric space that you can't even properly grasp what it is.

1769
01:24:15.899 --> 01:24:17.520
Have we ever seen a ship like that?

1770
01:24:17.579 --> 01:24:18.060
No.

1771
01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:20.279
It looks like a...

1772
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:21.420
Oh, my God.

1773
01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:22.380
Now we're in there.

1774
01:24:22.380 --> 01:24:23.819
So we're in the food sucks now.

1775
01:24:24.300 --> 01:24:28.920
And again, it's like the threat posed by the Borg is assimilation.

1776
01:24:28.979 --> 01:24:29.760
Do you know what I mean?

1777
01:24:29.819 --> 01:24:32.699
You go into a kind of thing.

1778
01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:40.800
Yes, but this is just Astoria and Nastia and her hand, her hand, which has been eaten away.

1779
01:24:40.859 --> 01:24:47.340
But the most shocking thing, is the man who's upside down, the colonist, whose face has been melted away.

1780
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:50.340
That is unusually graphic for Star Trek.

1781
01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:51.600
Well, yeah.

1782
01:24:51.659 --> 01:24:52.920
I mean, this is great.

1783
01:24:52.979 --> 01:24:54.779
Look, I've woken up.

1784
01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:58.560
And then she pushed away out of the sack. screaming.

1785
01:24:58.619 --> 01:25:00.779
Yeah, it's like she's been birthed, doesn't it?

1786
01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:03.960
But then she's really high up and she's hanging off her bloody tendril.

1787
01:25:04.020 --> 01:25:06.420
It's like a weird forest, isn't it?

1788
01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:07.680
looks amazing.

1789
01:25:07.739 --> 01:25:13.619
Yeah, and it's a great use of a physical space and then the wall to give it depth.

1790
01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:17.699
Yeah, that's right, to give it, you can see that, you know, the distance is all on the wall.

1791
01:25:18.300 --> 01:25:22.920
It feels like a living organism.

1792
01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:28.680
And they get, they're covered in sort of swarf eager and shit for the rest of the episode as well.

1793
01:25:28.739 --> 01:25:29.640
Oh, it's horrible.

1794
01:25:29.699 --> 01:25:32.399
Mind you, if that's acid, I'd wipe it off, you know.

1795
01:25:32.460 --> 01:25:32.880
Yeah.

1796
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:34.920
So they are being digested.

1797
01:25:34.979 --> 01:25:37.020
It looks incredible, doesn't it?

1798
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:39.300
You can see the silhouettes of people inside.

1799
01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:40.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1800
01:25:40.260 --> 01:25:49.800
It's really well done What I do find quite funny is, of course, she's been putting sacks right next to all of the Enterprise for you, and those are the only people they take out.

1801
01:25:49.859 --> 01:25:51.060
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1802
01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:52.020
Fuck the.

1803
01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:55.079
Oh, look, and of course, Sam vomits everywhere.

1804
01:25:55.140 --> 01:26:00.060
There we go. cuts to a long shot where you can literally see them, vomit.

1805
01:26:00.300 --> 01:26:03.600
Oh, this is really horrible.

1806
01:26:03.659 --> 01:26:04.739
Yeah, isn't it?

1807
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:06.359
Well, because she's a pilot.

1808
01:26:06.420 --> 01:26:07.560
And it's her hands.

1809
01:26:07.619 --> 01:26:10.500
I thought that they were going to kill her.

1810
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:12.899
There's bone coming out of it.

1811
01:26:13.500 --> 01:26:16.260
Like, and they do the wrong thing.

1812
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:17.039
They cut away quick.

1813
01:26:17.100 --> 01:26:18.420
It's enough to...

1814
01:26:18.420 --> 01:26:19.079
We do see it, though.

1815
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:19.739
Shock you.

1816
01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:20.520
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1817
01:26:20.579 --> 01:26:23.760
But they don't, it's not exploited, which I quite like.

1818
01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:26.579
Oh, Paul, look at the state of it.

1819
01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:28.800
Yeah, but he says we can...

1820
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:29.880
Yeah, that's the dead guy.

1821
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:34.140
It's not even desiccated, it is like...

1822
01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:35.760
Like the skin's been burned off.

1823
01:26:35.819 --> 01:26:37.619
Yeah, it's revolting.

1824
01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:38.760
Yeah, it's really good.

1825
01:26:38.819 --> 01:26:41.520
Great. good horror Yeah, yeah, yeah. love this stuff.

1826
01:26:41.819 --> 01:26:45.720
If we can't do it to the crew, we'll do it sort of cool.

1827
01:26:45.779 --> 01:26:49.319
Yeah, and just make it like it make it bleed.

1828
01:26:49.380 --> 01:26:51.180
It's usually all off screen, isn't it?

1829
01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:53.159
These colonists get murdered and we never see anything.

1830
01:26:53.220 --> 01:26:56.939
It's nice to actually see, look at the waltz on that on Benga's face.

1831
01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:58.979
Yeah, yeah, like wheels.

1832
01:26:58.979 --> 01:27:01.439
Compare and contrast to, course, oblivion now.

1833
01:27:01.500 --> 01:27:02.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1834
01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:05.579
Nobody could act because their lips were glued together.

1835
01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:08.880
And we need to remember that these are very pretty people.

1836
01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:11.520
We don't want to freck the...

1837
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:13.680
Yeah, you still would.

1838
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:16.800
Were they all called their faces, Millway?

1839
01:27:16.859 --> 01:27:17.520
Yeah, yeah.

1840
01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:21.359
That's the important thing to remember out straight to worlds.

1841
01:27:21.420 --> 01:27:24.720
It's what if Star Trek, only everyone is hugely attractive.

1842
01:27:24.779 --> 01:27:27.899
The real danger here is they could have been made ugly.

1843
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:29.279
Yeah, yeah.

1844
01:27:29.340 --> 01:27:29.880
No, that's right.

1845
01:27:29.939 --> 01:27:30.840
Shock horror.

1846
01:27:30.899 --> 01:27:31.260
Yeah.

1847
01:27:31.260 --> 01:27:35.760
But this is great because it is a big character thing for her.

1848
01:27:35.819 --> 01:27:40.859
So we're getting flashbacks to her, you know, and her brother and all of that sort of thing.

1849
01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:43.260
That's still just peppered though, isn't it?

1850
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:45.300
Yeah, because we don't know what this is about.

1851
01:27:45.420 --> 01:27:49.140
And we'd had it before in 2 episodes in series one, right?

1852
01:27:49.199 --> 01:27:55.199
Um, uh, and she in some senses faces this.

1853
01:27:55.260 --> 01:27:57.180
This is the worst thing that could happen.

1854
01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:02.699
And, um, and, uh, she lives there.

1855
01:28:02.760 --> 01:28:06.300
Although you said it's really nice then after this, she's a bit more chill.

1856
01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:08.640
And so this is a pile of shit.

1857
01:28:08.699 --> 01:28:12.720
I'm really surprised they don't use the word shit because they do use it.

1858
01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:15.659
Yeah, so we pull the gun out of the pile of shit.

1859
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:16.380
It's covered.

1860
01:28:16.380 --> 01:28:17.279
Is that shit?

1861
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:18.479
No, it's stuffed.

1862
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:19.979
Yeah, weapons from a crap pile.

1863
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:20.760
Oh, okay.

1864
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:22.979
I like, yeah, I'm surprised.

1865
01:28:22.979 --> 01:28:24.539
Strange New World.

1866
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:27.359
Well, except that people's faces are being nice. staff.

1867
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:28.260
Actually, yeah.

1868
01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:29.100
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1869
01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:29.520
Jesus.

1870
01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:32.279
They're willing to go B-movie in some respects.

1871
01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:34.439
They don't swear much in Strangely Worlds.

1872
01:28:34.500 --> 01:28:35.760
I can't think of many.

1873
01:28:35.819 --> 01:28:37.619
Yeah, because they do in discovery.

1874
01:28:37.680 --> 01:28:38.699
Obviously, we say fuck.

1875
01:28:38.699 --> 01:28:40.619
No, not as what I'm discovered.

1876
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:41.939
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1877
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:45.539
We say fucking discovery of Tilly and Stamets both say far.

1878
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:47.159
Fuck you, John Luke.

1879
01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:49.380
I was so shocked.

1880
01:28:50.460 --> 01:28:51.359
I fell off the sofa.

1881
01:28:51.420 --> 01:28:52.680
Would you remember the thing?

1882
01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:53.939
I know.

1883
01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.399
Scott, he's got comedy glasses.

1884
01:28:56.520 --> 01:29:02.340
And he's got his overbite thing because he's thinking, so he's got a sort of overbite, you know, like he's doing a comedy phase.

1885
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:03.600
Is this where she comes in?

1886
01:29:03.659 --> 01:29:05.399
Ah, boheed.

1887
01:29:05.460 --> 01:29:05.819
What's that?

1888
01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:06.779
don't even know what that is.

1889
01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:07.739
The corn.

1890
01:29:07.739 --> 01:29:08.520
Yeah.

1891
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:09.960
Shit, shake.

1892
01:29:10.020 --> 01:29:10.619
What are you doing?

1893
01:29:10.739 --> 01:29:12.239
No, we're all gonna die.

1894
01:29:12.899 --> 01:29:18.180
So it's Pelia running in, putting him under pressure. and that makes it work.

1895
01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:19.680
And then she starts laughing.

1896
01:29:21.539 --> 01:29:25.380
Just in time for Bridge, is it ready?

1897
01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:27.899
Actually, it's just been finished, sir.

1898
01:29:28.380 --> 01:29:30.539
She's such a cow.

1899
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:32.279
Oh, she's great.

1900
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:34.920
She goes, it was fun.

1901
01:29:36.600 --> 01:29:39.060
With too much time on your hands.

1902
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:41.039
You fall apart. and that is Scottish, right?

1903
01:29:41.100 --> 01:29:42.960
He does work best under pressure.

1904
01:29:43.020 --> 01:29:43.500
Do you remember?

1905
01:29:43.619 --> 01:29:44.340
Doomsday machine?

1906
01:29:44.399 --> 01:29:45.899
Yeah, gentlemen, if you're ready.

1907
01:29:46.380 --> 01:29:48.840
It's got to be a serious situation.

1908
01:29:48.899 --> 01:29:52.800
And this is funny too, because he's an outsider.

1909
01:29:52.859 --> 01:30:00.180
You know, he is actually an outsider and she's saying that he puts up walls as defence and look.

1910
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.420
He says you're not even by superior officer.

1911
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:05.819
He walks off and she's a bit stricken.

1912
01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:09.899
She feels sorry for him. like she cares about body language there.

1913
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:13.199
Where his face was down, his arms were beyond that.

1914
01:30:13.260 --> 01:30:14.520
She feels bad about it.

1915
01:30:14.579 --> 01:30:16.199
You think he felt a bit ashamed?

1916
01:30:16.260 --> 01:30:17.880
It's really good.

1917
01:30:18.659 --> 01:30:22.619
There's there's some cone head, cone head Celia there.

1918
01:30:22.680 --> 01:30:24.000
Massive hair.

1919
01:30:24.060 --> 01:30:26.159
Oh, God, shuffle there, that's one.

1920
01:30:26.220 --> 01:30:28.079
She must have looked at her, rushes and gone.

1921
01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:29.159
Oh, God.

1922
01:30:29.220 --> 01:30:30.840
Couldn't we just turn around?

1923
01:30:30.899 --> 01:30:32.520
No, what?

1924
01:30:32.579 --> 01:30:33.479
Like, what line?

1925
01:30:33.539 --> 01:30:34.199
I don't know.

1926
01:30:34.260 --> 01:30:36.539
A magic hair growing device of course.

1927
01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:38.100
Something.

1928
01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:40.920
I mean, that doesn't look at the back of her head.

1929
01:30:40.979 --> 01:30:41.699
I know, I know.

1930
01:30:41.699 --> 01:30:45.479
Just don't lift one of those bloody aliens from the cage.

1931
01:30:45.539 --> 01:30:46.739
Yes.

1932
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:48.180
Her head is so huge.

1933
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:51.420
They must have really...

1934
01:30:51.420 --> 01:30:54.060
There is a lot of hair to get...

1935
01:30:54.060 --> 01:30:55.079
Which lacquer, did they use?

1936
01:30:55.140 --> 01:30:56.819
Well, wait till you see...

1937
01:30:56.880 --> 01:30:59.159
I'll show you a picture later of what she looks like an episode.

1938
01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:00.899
I want number one to get more to do.

1939
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:06.060
Yeah, she was, she was running the ship last, last episode.

1940
01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:09.960
Shit, there's one instance where she has the worst hair.

1941
01:31:10.020 --> 01:31:14.279
There's one episode of series 3 where I'm kind of going, what have they done with you?

1942
01:31:14.340 --> 01:31:16.800
It was a couple of times I did that to Dax, you know.

1943
01:31:16.859 --> 01:31:18.479
I gave her a massive button head.

1944
01:31:18.659 --> 01:31:22.500
There's some really weird ones. unfortunate.

1945
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:28.079
But, you know, I liked it when she was dancing away to Gilbert and Sullivan. subspace reactively.

1946
01:31:28.140 --> 01:31:28.680
She's great.

1947
01:31:28.739 --> 01:31:32.279
Yeah. sort of tiptoeing around with Laan listening.

1948
01:31:32.340 --> 01:31:40.380
Remember it was him, Ethan and her were basically the 3 people from the Enterprise in series 2 of destruction.

1949
01:31:40.439 --> 01:31:43.739
They were the ones where it was like, can we just make a show with them, please?

1950
01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:45.720
I mean, I would rather...

1951
01:31:45.779 --> 01:31:46.319
Yeah.

1952
01:31:46.439 --> 01:31:48.720
Because there's so many great women on this show.

1953
01:31:48.779 --> 01:31:52.319
It's not that the women aren't getting much snow because the men are taking all the time.

1954
01:31:52.380 --> 01:31:56.220
It's just that there's so many women that you should have to take your turns, you know?

1955
01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:58.140
I have to get your focus.

1956
01:31:58.199 --> 01:31:59.220
Star Trek.

1957
01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:03.060
I love this scene, though. because we're going between 3 plots, right?

1958
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:16.140
We're going between what's happening on the ship, we're going with Christine and Spock, trying to help Marie in Sick Bay, and then we've got, you know, that group who are on the gone ship.

1959
01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:17.640
And it just keeps going.

1960
01:32:17.699 --> 01:32:19.260
I can trace this back.

1961
01:32:19.319 --> 01:32:27.300
You know, I can, the 1st time I remember an ABC where it ramps and ramps and ramps. and do you remember when we did Shadows and Cymbals?

1962
01:32:27.300 --> 01:32:34.020
and it was Kira on the blockade, Cisco on the planet looking for the thing. and them trying to blow up the sun.

1963
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:36.779
And obviously that's latter.

1964
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:39.000
Yeah, it's not when they can fight, it'll be an action.

1965
01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:42.600
But now, boy, I mean, it just runs.

1966
01:32:42.659 --> 01:32:48.060
And we're doing this really classic, this classic thing where we're discussing something.

1967
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:53.819
We're doing a space thing and now we stop for a 2nd to talk about our feelings, but we do it very quickly.

1968
01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:56.279
And then we get back to it.

1969
01:32:56.340 --> 01:33:00.060
I do think, oh, we'll keep bringing these people up because it's good to mock them.

1970
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:03.420
I think that's some, you know, those Star Trek fans.

1971
01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:07.380
That's their issue, is they just want the space stuff and they don't want the feelings.

1972
01:33:07.439 --> 01:33:09.840
But it, like, this is, this is nice.

1973
01:33:09.899 --> 01:33:12.239
That's where the drama comes from.

1974
01:33:12.300 --> 01:33:15.840
There's no drama in a Jeffrey's tube.

1975
01:33:15.899 --> 01:33:27.479
But what matters is that these guys all love each other and you've got the spot, Christine relationship, you've got Pike and and Marie as well informing this particular plot too.

1976
01:33:27.539 --> 01:33:31.920
I just feel for Ethan Peck all the time.

1977
01:33:31.979 --> 01:33:33.899
He's got the Renee effect.

1978
01:33:33.899 --> 01:33:37.560
I mean, just wanting to reach out to him, except I can see his face.

1979
01:33:37.619 --> 01:33:38.399
Yeah.

1980
01:33:38.460 --> 01:33:43.260
Well, I think too, like because he's young here.

1981
01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:47.579
Like, he's definitely young Spock, in a way that he isn't in TOS.

1982
01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:50.819
Like, it's a different type of, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1983
01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:56.939
Um, This relationship is in no way as sophisticated in TOS.

1984
01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:58.859
No, they just weren't capable, were they?

1985
01:33:58.920 --> 01:33:59.640
actually a lot worse.

1986
01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:01.319
Yeah, yeah.

1987
01:34:01.380 --> 01:34:04.199
He throws dinner at her quite a lot.

1988
01:34:04.260 --> 01:34:04.920
Yeah, yeah.

1989
01:34:04.979 --> 01:34:09.420
So we're going back and we're using some stuff from last season.

1990
01:34:09.539 --> 01:34:11.340
What is it all about?

1991
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:12.060
I didn't have a clue.

1992
01:34:12.180 --> 01:34:13.199
Zona's blood.

1993
01:34:13.260 --> 01:34:14.399
She's Illyrian.

1994
01:34:14.460 --> 01:34:16.680
Is that what Gonan is?

1995
01:34:16.739 --> 01:34:17.460
No.

1996
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:19.079
That's Elorian.

1997
01:34:19.260 --> 01:34:30.720
So, Illyrian, they get mentioned in Enterprise series 3, and it's an Illyrian ship that they steal the warp core from.

1998
01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:32.220
Okay.

1999
01:34:32.279 --> 01:34:42.420
And Illyrians use genetic engineering to make changes to themselves so that they can adapt to different environments.

2000
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:47.399
And for that reason, she's not eligible to be in Starfleet.

2001
01:34:47.460 --> 01:34:50.939
And so because she lies on her application.

2002
01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:54.119
She gets arrested at the end of series one.

2003
01:34:54.180 --> 01:34:57.359
So the Cliffhanger series one is her getting arrested.

2004
01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:08.220
And then the 2nd episode of series 2 is a courtroom drama where she defends herself and Marie is the prosecutor because of course she is.

2005
01:35:08.279 --> 01:35:10.680
Oh, it's really good.

2006
01:35:10.739 --> 01:35:12.899
Did I remember that rightly?

2007
01:35:13.020 --> 01:35:14.340
I think Marie is the prosecutor.

2008
01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:16.739
I mean, I have made them look a bit ugly actually here.

2009
01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:18.359
It's pretty little pretty.

2010
01:35:18.420 --> 01:35:24.300
It's a bit, yeah, but I'm sure I don't know, someone covered in bones. have a shower first, I think.

2011
01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:25.380
Probably at least.

2012
01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:27.600
I mean, it really looks like it's burnt their skin.

2013
01:35:27.659 --> 01:35:29.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah. it, isn't it?

2014
01:35:29.100 --> 01:35:31.500
I mean, if Leon had woken up any later.

2015
01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:32.520
Yeah.

2016
01:35:32.579 --> 01:35:35.100
Yeah. someone may not have been pretty.

2017
01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:35.760
That's right.

2018
01:35:35.819 --> 01:35:37.800
Well, I think there's probably a lot of colony.

2019
01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:41.399
This was where we had a few unfortunate side shots of Ahura.

2020
01:35:41.460 --> 01:35:42.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2021
01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:45.420
You see, you want to who are in it because she is the best one.

2022
01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:49.079
What she needs right now is extreme close-ups of just her face.

2023
01:35:49.140 --> 01:35:49.800
Yeah.

2024
01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:52.079
Just no shots of her hair.

2025
01:35:52.140 --> 01:35:52.920
Yeah.

2026
01:35:52.979 --> 01:35:56.220
So again, this is being explained to us, but he knows it already.

2027
01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:57.720
Coronal mass objections.

2028
01:35:57.779 --> 01:35:59.699
That's what they called it in that, I guess not an episode.

2029
01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:00.239
Yeah.

2030
01:36:00.300 --> 01:36:01.079
Well it's a real thing.

2031
01:36:01.140 --> 01:36:07.319
Um, so, but they were talking about it in the, in the last episode, like they were talking about it.

2032
01:36:07.319 --> 01:36:08.279
I remember the last episode.

2033
01:36:08.340 --> 01:36:09.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2034
01:36:09.060 --> 01:36:13.500
And Scotty was talking about the, basically what they do at the end as well, wasn't it, the device?

2035
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:14.220
That's right.

2036
01:36:14.279 --> 01:36:17.279
And so essentially setting up this.

2037
01:36:17.699 --> 01:36:18.420
They were thinking ahead.

2038
01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:19.079
That's right.

2039
01:36:19.140 --> 01:36:22.079
Something that best of what we're doing in best of both worlds.

2040
01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:24.359
How do we end this?

2041
01:36:24.420 --> 01:36:26.340
They go to sleep.

2042
01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:27.119
That's fine.

2043
01:36:27.180 --> 01:36:33.119
But, I mean, that kind of works because you've established that the Borgara are a kind of like you social species.

2044
01:36:33.180 --> 01:36:34.800
They're just one big hive.

2045
01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:37.380
It is anticlimactic.

2046
01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:41.699
But here, this isn't, it's just lame that they've all gone.

2047
01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:47.220
Well, it's the same that they make them all go to sleep and they make them all return to their home world.

2048
01:36:47.279 --> 01:36:53.340
And so it is essentially the same resolution, but they do it with a much more risky inspector.

2049
01:36:53.399 --> 01:37:01.500
Yeah, no, it's just send a fucking message. to go from the whole of the Federation and Earth is under danger.

2050
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:02.340
Oh, they've gone.

2051
01:37:02.399 --> 01:37:02.880
We've fixed it.

2052
01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:03.779
It's like, okay.

2053
01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:04.380
Yeah.

2054
01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:06.119
Well, good for you.

2055
01:37:06.180 --> 01:37:07.979
We will see that we will see the one.

2056
01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:10.739
So anyway, she has special blood that's adaptive or whatever.

2057
01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:17.340
And in fact, it kind of matters that she's got some gone stuff in her and some Illyrian stuff in her.

2058
01:37:17.340 --> 01:37:20.159
And I think there might be another thing as well.

2059
01:37:20.220 --> 01:37:22.319
But all of that is going to be important later.

2060
01:37:22.380 --> 01:37:33.060
Can I suggest, please, that everybody goes and Googles Jacqueline Hill from Doctor Who and just have a look at the pictures because Una has a very similar kind of vibe.

2061
01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:37.619
That beautiful sort of big hair and very striking eyes.

2062
01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:40.199
So this is not what they go with.

2063
01:37:40.260 --> 01:37:45.060
So they've decided that they've come up with something that has a 14% chance of succeeding.

2064
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:48.359
We've had worse ops, but that's not what they end up going with.

2065
01:37:48.420 --> 01:37:51.960
They change their mind at the last minute and do something else entirely different.

2066
01:37:52.020 --> 01:37:58.859
So remember, they try and stop the eggs from hatching altogether.

2067
01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:01.199
Oh, dare shit.

2068
01:38:01.260 --> 01:38:02.039
What's the matter with her?

2069
01:38:02.100 --> 01:38:02.760
Oh, she's tired.

2070
01:38:02.819 --> 01:38:04.020
Yeah, she's been up a long time.

2071
01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:05.880
I'm not sure that I like this.

2072
01:38:05.939 --> 01:38:08.760
I think that she should just be relieved.

2073
01:38:08.819 --> 01:38:10.979
Yeah, other people...

2074
01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:13.680
What if she made a cock hop at the last minute, yeah.

2075
01:38:13.859 --> 01:38:17.640
You know, press the button to eject the sun.

2076
01:38:17.699 --> 01:38:19.020
She's half asleep.

2077
01:38:19.140 --> 01:38:19.920
Yeah.

2078
01:38:19.979 --> 01:38:20.220
Okay.

2079
01:38:20.279 --> 01:38:27.119
So we've we've tracking the enemy destroyer and we're in this binary star system.

2080
01:38:27.180 --> 01:38:27.960
That's the other thing too.

2081
01:38:28.020 --> 01:38:31.859
The last time we said, that time we saw the gore on the 1st time we saw them in series one.

2082
01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:35.039
Do you remember the episode where they don't come out of their ships and stuff?

2083
01:38:35.100 --> 01:38:38.520
And that's where we discover they communicate with each other via life.

2084
01:38:38.579 --> 01:38:40.020
Oh, what a brilliant episode.

2085
01:38:40.079 --> 01:38:45.840
And there's some big, isn't there a big black hole that they're sort of skirting the edge of or something?

2086
01:38:45.899 --> 01:38:47.159
I can't remember.

2087
01:38:47.159 --> 01:38:47.880
I have seen it once.

2088
01:38:47.939 --> 01:38:50.760
But it's that thing where it's space stuff.

2089
01:38:50.819 --> 01:39:03.180
Like they do space stuff like binary stars and gravity welds and all of that sort of stuff, you know, like, um, and black holes and things, where it's not just the backdrop, but it's part of the environment.

2090
01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:07.500
You know, we're here between 2 binary sons and that's where the gorn come from.

2091
01:39:07.500 --> 01:39:12.000
And I'm sorry, the shot of a pike silhouettes.

2092
01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:20.760
Looking at the 2 sons. that is so gorgeous I mean, back in the day, we had Abraham Lincoln. flying towards.

2093
01:39:20.819 --> 01:39:21.539
Look at that.

2094
01:39:21.539 --> 01:39:22.439
No, it's amazing.

2095
01:39:22.500 --> 01:39:25.079
And then the 2 sons, they're sort of twisting in the middle together.

2096
01:39:25.140 --> 01:39:26.220
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2097
01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:27.479
I think what's great too.

2098
01:39:27.539 --> 01:39:30.060
Oh, something Marie's not doing well.

2099
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:32.460
She's going to be eaten.

2100
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:33.539
Yeah, yeah.

2101
01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:35.880
So you're saying that she doesn't get eaten eventually.

2102
01:39:35.939 --> 01:39:38.220
No, they do, they have solved it. they dissolve.

2103
01:39:38.399 --> 01:39:41.760
I just wondered if a few particles survived and...

2104
01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:44.039
Oh, yeah, she gets born DNA.

2105
01:39:44.100 --> 01:39:45.720
Oh, yeah, it becomes a thing.

2106
01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:46.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2107
01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:47.039
Okay.

2108
01:39:47.100 --> 01:39:50.100
Oh, so they come back and then they use that as a.

2109
01:39:50.220 --> 01:39:52.920
Well, in fact, no, yeah, it becomes a thing.

2110
01:39:52.979 --> 01:39:56.220
It's complicated that it takes all season, but we'll get there at some point.

2111
01:39:56.279 --> 01:39:58.500
Oh, wait, we'll see it in 2050.

2112
01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:10.560
In fact, Pike and Mabenga go on a trip to an abandoned federation medical facility in order to get stuff to treat her with in episode three, I think, of the season.

2113
01:40:10.619 --> 01:40:12.060
So it's still going on.

2114
01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:14.699
So they are doing. proper consequences.

2115
01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:20.279
Well, and sort of plot consonancy in 3 in a way that we haven't done too much.

2116
01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:25.859
But in a way that doesn't, like, if you, like, it needs a line of dialogue to explain, you know.

2117
01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:32.100
And still, I mean, the Marie Pike stuff is basically character continuity, isn't it?

2118
01:40:32.159 --> 01:40:33.300
You know, so.

2119
01:40:33.300 --> 01:40:35.100
Yes.

2120
01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:36.840
Oh, where did that one go?

2121
01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:52.079
I just think it was a moment of genius and it's discovery, isn't it, that decides that that window is not big enough, the little screen is not big enough, and it needs to... 100s of gaunt ships coming out of the sun.

2122
01:40:52.140 --> 01:40:57.239
Excluding a giant, weird ass looking destroyer. heading straight to the Federation.

2123
01:40:57.359 --> 01:40:58.439
That is great.

2124
01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:05.399
Because even in the shadows and symbols, There was only like 5 Dominion ships coming after them.

2125
01:41:05.460 --> 01:41:07.859
It was that giant crowd of things.

2126
01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:09.359
Just anything.

2127
01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:12.300
That involves blowing up a sum.

2128
01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:14.220
It's just very exciting.

2129
01:41:14.279 --> 01:41:21.840
Well, and and Scotty gets to talk about how you actually really can't do anything very specific to a son.

2130
01:41:21.899 --> 01:41:25.800
You kind of have to kind of just hope that it turns out the right way.

2131
01:41:25.859 --> 01:41:29.399
We bent the rules for scientific rules in Star Trek before.

2132
01:41:29.460 --> 01:41:38.579
So here we've got this, now we have this thing, you know, we either rescue our people or we alert Starfleet, what do we do?

2133
01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:40.439
Those lions, I love.

2134
01:41:40.500 --> 01:41:42.420
We're the only hope the Federation's got right now.

2135
01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:43.680
Here's Marie.

2136
01:41:43.739 --> 01:41:46.979
Oh, stupid spacesuits.

2137
01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:47.520
Look at that.

2138
01:41:47.579 --> 01:41:49.619
Oh, the quarantine suits.

2139
01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:50.460
They look stupid.

2140
01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:53.579
They should be they should be red in next year.

2141
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:54.659
They're slightly red.

2142
01:41:54.899 --> 01:41:57.180
Yeah, so these are the...

2143
01:41:57.359 --> 01:41:58.739
At least they have pretty faces on lit up.

2144
01:41:58.800 --> 01:41:59.159
Yeah.

2145
01:41:59.220 --> 01:42:01.199
Well that's what we want. all we need.

2146
01:42:01.260 --> 01:42:05.220
But it's so that she doesn't spray all over them when the...

2147
01:42:05.279 --> 01:42:06.420
Oh, no, it's really good.

2148
01:42:06.420 --> 01:42:08.279
I mean, I was so getting so excited.

2149
01:42:08.340 --> 01:42:10.199
That stomach is pulsing.

2150
01:42:10.260 --> 01:42:12.659
The eggs are literally...

2151
01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:14.100
Yeah, yeah.

2152
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:15.060
What was our stomach?

2153
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:16.020
No, no, it's wrong.

2154
01:42:16.079 --> 01:42:17.760
It's a very large space to be around.

2155
01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:19.800
That's her arm grown.

2156
01:42:19.859 --> 01:42:21.300
Can we cut back to it, Chris?

2157
01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:23.460
Christine, you're very pretty, but...

2158
01:42:23.460 --> 01:42:25.439
Oh, it is a stuff. stomach, yeah.

2159
01:42:25.500 --> 01:42:26.699
Yeah, it is too.

2160
01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:27.720
Fuck it, look at that.

2161
01:42:27.779 --> 01:42:29.279
Are those eggs?

2162
01:42:29.340 --> 01:42:30.060
Yeah.

2163
01:42:30.060 --> 01:42:31.920
I'm about to hatch.

2164
01:42:31.979 --> 01:42:32.579
They're coming out.

2165
01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:33.300
It's her back.

2166
01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:35.399
She's like face down at her back.

2167
01:42:35.460 --> 01:42:41.399
Oh, alien, you've got nothing on strange new worlds, alright, when it comes to Gorns bursting out of people.

2168
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:44.520
Oh, look at the ceiling there.

2169
01:42:44.579 --> 01:42:46.319
Yeah, yeah, the whole thing fell down. coming down.

2170
01:42:46.380 --> 01:42:48.000
They've cleared away the rocks now.

2171
01:42:48.060 --> 01:42:50.100
There's a little Hoover that comes in.

2172
01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:52.020
We haven't had dots.

2173
01:42:52.079 --> 01:42:53.279
Why do we have dots in this?

2174
01:42:53.340 --> 01:42:54.659
They have dots on discovery.

2175
01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:56.880
They're just going for their own thing, I guess.

2176
01:42:56.939 --> 01:42:58.079
They are great.

2177
01:42:58.079 --> 01:42:59.579
Are they saying that's a discovery thing?

2178
01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:00.840
robots going about things.

2179
01:43:00.899 --> 01:43:02.399
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's horrible.

2180
01:43:02.460 --> 01:43:08.520
I think it's because it's not Star Trek enough. you know, like a classic if a regional trag doesn't have dots.

2181
01:43:08.579 --> 01:43:10.439
We cover with a light pike of stages.

2182
01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:13.619
They should have just got too much personality. going about the place.

2183
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:15.899
They're constantly achieving sentience and refusing.

2184
01:43:15.899 --> 01:43:16.560
Like the scutters.

2185
01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:19.859
Rentor, you know, we're really...

2186
01:43:20.819 --> 01:43:25.199
There's only one exacon that counts, all right. and that's peanut hamper.

2187
01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:29.819
Yeah, so here it's he's getting it.

2188
01:43:29.880 --> 01:43:30.600
He's getting it.

2189
01:43:30.659 --> 01:43:35.939
Now we're kind of deciding, we know this because the camera is pulling in very slowly on him.

2190
01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:37.619
She's smiling, right?

2191
01:43:37.920 --> 01:43:40.319
We've got a solution, folks.

2192
01:43:40.380 --> 01:43:42.539
Now, these guys...

2193
01:43:42.539 --> 01:43:43.439
This is 1st time on the bridge.

2194
01:43:43.500 --> 01:43:44.340
It was, wasn't it?

2195
01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:44.939
Do you see his face?

2196
01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:45.899
Yeah, he's sort of like, oh.

2197
01:43:45.899 --> 01:43:47.819
I'm on the bridge.

2198
01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:49.500
He's going to be out. one day.

2199
01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:53.579
Yeah, why he, you remember, in TOS, he sort of always takes over when they're on the planet.

2200
01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:55.020
He's the 3rd guy.

2201
01:43:55.079 --> 01:43:55.859
Yeah.

2202
01:43:55.859 --> 01:43:56.880
It's Spock.

2203
01:43:56.939 --> 01:44:00.539
But it always comes back to Scotty going, you know, we're not going down.

2204
01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:02.460
Well, wait till we hear from them.

2205
01:44:03.060 --> 01:44:08.220
Yeah, so like it's kind of excited doing the techno-babble as well.

2206
01:44:08.279 --> 01:44:09.300
He likes it.

2207
01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:10.560
It's very improbable.

2208
01:44:10.619 --> 01:44:12.720
She goes, it's not impossible, is it?

2209
01:44:12.779 --> 01:44:14.159
So we're doing it here.

2210
01:44:14.220 --> 01:44:16.979
And this is the bit where we explode.

2211
01:44:17.039 --> 01:44:17.939
Right?

2212
01:44:17.939 --> 01:44:18.479
Watch.

2213
01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:20.340
This is the bit where we explode.

2214
01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:23.699
Modifying the deflect shields, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

2215
01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:26.939
Watch him smiling, modify everything.

2216
01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:31.859
We're gonna...

2217
01:44:31.859 --> 01:44:32.640
I'm waiting.

2218
01:44:32.699 --> 01:44:33.840
No, it will explode.

2219
01:44:33.899 --> 01:44:34.560
There it is.

2220
01:44:34.680 --> 01:44:36.659
Enterprise destroyed.

2221
01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:46.739
No, he just says, we'll just turn it off before we blow up. seems like a solution to me.

2222
01:44:47.699 --> 01:44:54.359
The relationship between them, though, the established relationship that we didn't know about. so clever.

2223
01:44:54.420 --> 01:44:55.140
Yeah, it's good.

2224
01:44:55.140 --> 01:44:56.640
It's just instant shorthand.

2225
01:44:56.699 --> 01:44:58.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

2226
01:44:59.939 --> 01:45:01.979
Is she upside down now?

2227
01:45:02.039 --> 01:45:04.260
No, it was her.

2228
01:45:04.260 --> 01:45:04.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2229
01:45:04.800 --> 01:45:08.100
No, I guess, yeah, it's just breasts and things.

2230
01:45:08.100 --> 01:45:10.260
We don't, you know, Those breathing eggs.

2231
01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:11.100
I can't believe it.

2232
01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:13.199
I missed all this. was I watching?

2233
01:45:13.260 --> 01:45:14.760
I don't remember any of this.

2234
01:45:14.939 --> 01:45:21.539
Um, so I think so this is the point where we decide not to go with this.

2235
01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:23.340
We're not gonna let them get out.

2236
01:45:23.399 --> 01:45:25.619
So, see, look, oh, it's sort of transparent.

2237
01:45:25.680 --> 01:45:28.439
You can see the thing. growing inside.

2238
01:45:28.500 --> 01:45:31.859
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there it is. about to burst out and then he says, no, actually, let's not do that.

2239
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:33.539
Yeah, that's not.

2240
01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:34.859
Let's let it die.

2241
01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:36.600
No, they don't go with that.

2242
01:45:36.659 --> 01:45:37.140
No way.

2243
01:45:37.199 --> 01:45:41.819
Yes, we know that and then the faith or we do something else.

2244
01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:43.439
So would it have gone wrong then?

2245
01:45:43.500 --> 01:45:48.000
Well, they, they, it was an 86% chance of survival of her dying.

2246
01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:50.340
A 14% chance of survival.

2247
01:45:50.399 --> 01:45:52.800
I mean, better than nothing if they did nothing.

2248
01:45:52.859 --> 01:45:54.359
Yeah, so what?

2249
01:45:54.359 --> 01:45:57.779
So now what they do is they decide to leave them there.

2250
01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:01.680
And then her body just reabsorbs them.

2251
01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:04.800
Gross but offensive.

2252
01:46:04.859 --> 01:46:05.640
Yeah, yeah.

2253
01:46:05.699 --> 01:46:06.300
Yeah.

2254
01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:08.460
So that's what ends up doing.

2255
01:46:08.520 --> 01:46:09.600
I mean, it makes it makes sense.

2256
01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:17.220
But there is something like it ends up reading a little bit like she has cancer, you know, and the, it's not episode two.

2257
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:25.260
I think it is episode 3 where she has a go at him at the end of it and says I can't baby you through this.

2258
01:46:25.319 --> 01:46:27.119
Oh, God.

2259
01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:29.100
And it's also you're not.

2260
01:46:29.159 --> 01:46:34.260
Um, you know, you don't get to say what the treatment is.

2261
01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:37.500
That's my call completely.

2262
01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:38.699
And it's really good.

2263
01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:39.659
It's really good.

2264
01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:44.279
And he's abashed, but it just reads like a real interaction.

2265
01:46:44.340 --> 01:46:45.239
It's very good.

2266
01:46:45.300 --> 01:46:51.119
Speaking of somebody who has seen men struggle to cope with a woman with cancer.

2267
01:46:51.239 --> 01:46:52.199
It's very real.

2268
01:46:52.260 --> 01:46:53.640
Oh yeah, no, I know.

2269
01:46:53.699 --> 01:46:54.420
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2270
01:46:54.479 --> 01:46:55.020
Yeah, exactly.

2271
01:46:55.859 --> 01:47:00.239
Um, yeah, so here we are back in this other plot.

2272
01:47:00.300 --> 01:47:01.020
That's right.

2273
01:47:01.079 --> 01:47:02.760
I think the go ones are coming in a minute.

2274
01:47:02.819 --> 01:47:06.239
And they do save some money, so we get gone on masse.

2275
01:47:06.300 --> 01:47:08.220
Yeah, which is all I wanted.

2276
01:47:08.279 --> 01:47:09.359
Yeah, huge gone.

2277
01:47:09.899 --> 01:47:11.819
I think I would have been disappointed if we didn't get it.

2278
01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:12.840
Oh yeah, I agree.

2279
01:47:12.899 --> 01:47:15.720
I think if you're promising a score and we need to see that.

2280
01:47:15.779 --> 01:47:17.100
But I like this too.

2281
01:47:17.159 --> 01:47:19.199
You know, you're not back there.

2282
01:47:19.260 --> 01:47:21.720
You're not back there, Laan.

2283
01:47:21.779 --> 01:47:24.119
And she goes, yeah, but it's not really great here.

2284
01:47:24.899 --> 01:47:27.119
Well, yeah, no, true.

2285
01:47:27.180 --> 01:47:28.859
There are all gone here.

2286
01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:34.680
It's not about you, Lau. all in this situation together.

2287
01:47:34.739 --> 01:47:38.699
I know you've got some history, but her hand has been eating off. okay?

2288
01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:39.899
That's right.

2289
01:47:39.960 --> 01:47:44.279
But like when our whole family's eaten or, you know, being...

2290
01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:45.779
I just, I can't imagine...

2291
01:47:45.779 --> 01:47:54.899
I could take them to a more extreme moment or a single person than that hand eaten off and her bleeding all that..

2292
01:47:54.960 --> 01:47:57.119
Like that's about as visceral as it can get, right?

2293
01:47:57.180 --> 01:48:02.100
And again, at the end of next week's episode we see that she's still traumatised by it.

2294
01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:04.800
Like, it's a very light episode.

2295
01:48:04.859 --> 01:48:06.420
It introduces her little brother.

2296
01:48:06.479 --> 01:48:07.680
It's all cute.

2297
01:48:07.739 --> 01:48:18.359
You know, it's the annual Spock sex comedy episode, but it does end with, and meanwhile, Erica is losing her shit because of what happened to her last, you know, 3 months ago.

2298
01:48:18.420 --> 01:48:23.039
And I look forward to seeing how you attempt to top this at the end of series 3.

2299
01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:25.140
It's quite different.

2300
01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:26.880
I think it needs to be.

2301
01:48:26.939 --> 01:48:29.039
Yeah, it introduces this threat.

2302
01:48:29.100 --> 01:48:29.939
Look at them. amazing.

2303
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.399
Hundreds of sticky gold.

2304
01:48:32.460 --> 01:48:34.859
Yeah, yeah, yeah. all over the ceiling and walls.

2305
01:48:35.579 --> 01:48:36.659
Coming at them.

2306
01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:37.439
Guns firing.

2307
01:48:37.500 --> 01:48:38.939
That's great.

2308
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:39.600
Yeah, awesome.

2309
01:48:39.659 --> 01:48:45.720
Absolutely I do love the fact that in Kurtzman Trait, you know, we just sometimes do just devolve into describing what's going on.

2310
01:48:45.779 --> 01:48:48.479
And that's because nothing ever happens in 90s.

2311
01:48:48.539 --> 01:48:51.239
So we have to talk about their sort of ideas.

2312
01:48:51.359 --> 01:48:53.039
Oh, look, what's coming up behind her?

2313
01:48:53.100 --> 01:48:54.239
There's one coming up behind.

2314
01:48:54.300 --> 01:48:55.260
Look behind you.

2315
01:48:55.260 --> 01:48:56.279
It's a doggy.

2316
01:48:56.340 --> 01:48:57.359
It's like a panto.

2317
01:48:57.420 --> 01:48:58.380
He's behind you.

2318
01:48:58.500 --> 01:48:59.279
Kill it quick.

2319
01:48:59.340 --> 01:49:00.960
There's a puppet.

2320
01:49:01.380 --> 01:49:02.159
Huge puppet.

2321
01:49:02.220 --> 01:49:03.539
With great...

2322
01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:05.340
And Sam is really going for it.

2323
01:49:05.399 --> 01:49:09.300
Like, because he lost his shit last time and that's it. one beyond the rock.

2324
01:49:09.420 --> 01:49:10.800
Oh shit.

2325
01:49:10.859 --> 01:49:11.699
Shit in hell.

2326
01:49:11.760 --> 01:49:13.859
Oh, I want to pause it on that.

2327
01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:15.539
Yeah, looks amazing, doesn't it?

2328
01:49:15.600 --> 01:49:18.300
Oh, and then blows its head off.

2329
01:49:19.859 --> 01:49:23.399
At least somebody blew up. in this.

2330
01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:25.800
Oh, look at that shot.

2331
01:49:25.859 --> 01:49:27.600
Enterprise going between the 2 signers.

2332
01:49:27.659 --> 01:49:28.800
I know.

2333
01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:29.520
Wonderful.

2334
01:49:29.579 --> 01:49:31.800
That was the best action sequence.

2335
01:49:31.859 --> 01:49:33.000
It was amazing, wasn't it?

2336
01:49:33.060 --> 01:49:33.539
Yeah.

2337
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:38.399
I mean, what was it, like a 90 seconds, but...

2338
01:49:38.460 --> 01:49:39.720
Stylish 90 seconds.

2339
01:49:39.779 --> 01:49:41.039
Yes, looked really good.

2340
01:49:41.100 --> 01:49:41.819
Lots going on.

2341
01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:44.399
And he picks her up, yeah.

2342
01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:47.520
Yeah, which is extra peril for the climax.

2343
01:49:47.579 --> 01:49:48.119
Yeah.

2344
01:49:48.180 --> 01:49:54.779
And it's a big, like, that was a, that was a man in a suit, of course, that, that one picky him up.

2345
01:49:54.779 --> 01:49:56.460
The animatronics are so good.

2346
01:49:56.460 --> 01:49:57.659
Oh, yeah, yeah.

2347
01:49:57.720 --> 01:49:59.100
You can barely notice the difference.

2348
01:49:59.159 --> 01:49:59.939
It's amazing.

2349
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:00.600
Yeah.

2350
01:50:00.659 --> 01:50:05.340
You know, oh, look, we're doing a sort of voyage home now, going towards the sun effects.

2351
01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:05.880
Yeah.

2352
01:50:05.880 --> 01:50:10.739
Were you hoping to see some sort of white bodied heads coming towards the camera?

2353
01:50:10.800 --> 01:50:12.899
Oh, that's only when you travel in time.

2354
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:13.800
Okay, yeah.

2355
01:50:13.859 --> 01:50:14.579
No, that's true.

2356
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:24.479
So now we're in one of the little gone brown ships and of course, Joseph is going to fly it because she's been stabbed and had her hand dissolved.

2357
01:50:24.539 --> 01:50:30.960
Oh, see, I don't want to see a lot of blood in Star Trek, but I just thought it was very effectively used.

2358
01:50:31.020 --> 01:50:33.239
Yeah, and you're not seeing it pour out of Erica?

2359
01:50:33.300 --> 01:50:34.800
Like you're seeing it appear on the thing.

2360
01:50:34.859 --> 01:50:39.779
But it's like that pizza sauce that was all over the console in lower decks.

2361
01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:40.380
Do you remember?

2362
01:50:40.439 --> 01:50:41.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2363
01:50:41.460 --> 01:50:44.220
I mean, there's a lot of it on the console.

2364
01:50:44.279 --> 01:50:46.140
This looks amazing, doesn't it?

2365
01:50:46.199 --> 01:50:47.760
The controls are really wild.

2366
01:50:47.819 --> 01:50:49.739
You know, like it just looks incredible.

2367
01:50:49.800 --> 01:50:56.039
And I think she needed her moment because she's had a few character moments here, but she hasn't done a great thing.

2368
01:50:56.100 --> 01:50:58.619
No, there's never been an Erica episode at this point.

2369
01:50:58.680 --> 01:51:06.840
The closest is the Lotus Eaters one, uh, where she has a pretty significant B plot, but otherwise they've never done an Erica episode.

2370
01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:10.140
But Gorn flying their ships looks so funny.

2371
01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:11.640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2372
01:51:11.699 --> 01:51:15.539
So like, you know, they're savage murderers, but they're very adept at the wheel.

2373
01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:16.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2374
01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:17.100
Look at him.

2375
01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:19.739
He's really going.

2376
01:51:19.739 --> 01:51:20.699
And he's smiling.

2377
01:51:20.760 --> 01:51:22.680
I'm going to get you fuckers.

2378
01:51:23.220 --> 01:51:28.859
But yeah, she's like bleeding out over the controls and trying to stay with her.

2379
01:51:28.920 --> 01:51:31.260
And they very cleverly designed the console.

2380
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:33.659
So there's a black space and a white space.

2381
01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:37.560
Yeah, so you can just filling it up, watch it moving.

2382
01:51:37.619 --> 01:51:38.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2383
01:51:38.220 --> 01:51:39.060
Nasty.

2384
01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:40.560
Oh, here we go.

2385
01:51:40.619 --> 01:51:42.960
They are very close to that sun now.

2386
01:51:43.020 --> 01:51:44.100
Why is no one sweating?

2387
01:51:44.159 --> 01:51:45.000
They are.

2388
01:51:45.060 --> 01:51:46.140
They are.

2389
01:51:46.140 --> 01:51:46.439
They are.

2390
01:51:46.500 --> 01:51:48.119
Look how shiny.

2391
01:51:48.239 --> 01:51:50.460
Look how shiny everyone is. get the bottle out.

2392
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:51.840
Come on, look how shiny.

2393
01:51:51.899 --> 01:51:53.039
Look how shiny pike is.

2394
01:51:53.100 --> 01:51:54.359
He's really shiny.

2395
01:51:54.420 --> 01:51:55.680
Look at all those tiny ships.

2396
01:51:55.739 --> 01:51:59.399
I'm getting sort of Star Trek beyond vibes from the tiny ships.

2397
01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:01.140
Yeah, definitely.

2398
01:52:01.140 --> 01:52:01.680
Definitely.

2399
01:52:01.739 --> 01:52:03.300
As good as as well.

2400
01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:04.199
Yeah, yeah.

2401
01:52:04.260 --> 01:52:05.699
Oh, this looks better.

2402
01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:08.100
Oh, and I love all of these holograms in the air.

2403
01:52:08.159 --> 01:52:09.840
Yeah, yeah, they do a lot of this.

2404
01:52:09.899 --> 01:52:12.060
So now, now...

2405
01:52:12.060 --> 01:52:14.220
Oh, they're doing the same thing as Ezri.

2406
01:52:14.279 --> 01:52:16.140
They're doing that sort of frame rate thing, aren't they?

2407
01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:17.399
Yeah, yeah, slow down a bit.

2408
01:52:17.460 --> 01:52:18.359
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2409
01:52:18.420 --> 01:52:18.779
Yeah.

2410
01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:25.319
Because of the gravity of the suns or whatever, you know, like, I mean, there's just so much going on now, but like, but it's like...

2411
01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:28.439
Look at that massive clown of little gone ships coming for them.

2412
01:52:28.500 --> 01:52:30.539
Cut to one, cut to one, cut to one.

2413
01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:31.859
There's such momentum.

2414
01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:32.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2415
01:52:32.939 --> 01:52:35.220
Well, these 2 plots are joining up. now, aren't they?

2416
01:52:35.279 --> 01:52:38.579
The courts flying the chips look great, don't they?

2417
01:52:38.640 --> 01:52:39.720
That looks so cool.

2418
01:52:40.500 --> 01:52:43.020
This is a very niche reference.

2419
01:52:43.079 --> 01:52:44.460
I'm getting Lee John vibes.

2420
01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:45.300
Oh, yeah.

2421
01:52:45.300 --> 01:52:47.220
Oh, you know, at a ship's wheel.

2422
01:52:47.279 --> 01:52:48.539
Very niche reference.

2423
01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:49.500
Check it out.

2424
01:52:49.500 --> 01:52:50.100
Check it out.

2425
01:52:50.699 --> 01:52:53.640
And.

2426
01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:54.659
They're gone.

2427
01:52:54.720 --> 01:52:55.140
They're gone.

2428
01:52:55.260 --> 01:52:57.420
Yeah, they're all gone.

2429
01:52:57.539 --> 01:52:58.079
Yeah.

2430
01:52:58.380 --> 01:53:00.720
Turn it off before we blow up.

2431
01:53:00.779 --> 01:53:01.680
That was the plan.

2432
01:53:01.800 --> 01:53:04.560
And we turn it off and there we go. right.

2433
01:53:04.619 --> 01:53:08.699
I mean, that's quite, yeah, often that's quite handy turning something off before it.

2434
01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:09.539
I love that.

2435
01:53:10.199 --> 01:53:12.600
We'll just turn it off before we blow.

2436
01:53:12.659 --> 01:53:16.020
I think that's good on technical advice whenever.

2437
01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:17.399
Yeah.

2438
01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:19.079
And we got the colonists.

2439
01:53:19.140 --> 01:53:22.859
You know, somehow that breach still looks sexy, even though it's...

2440
01:53:22.920 --> 01:53:24.060
Oh the bridge looks amazing.

2441
01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:29.100
It's in disarray right now, and there's an overflow infirmary for all 100s of colonists.

2442
01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:30.600
Now we just have to beam these guys.

2443
01:53:30.659 --> 01:53:31.739
Will you beam us out?

2444
01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:33.119
She needs medical attention.

2445
01:53:33.119 --> 01:53:34.500
She's getting a shit worst way.

2446
01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:36.779
And this is where we get that great moment.

2447
01:53:36.840 --> 01:53:38.520
I did good or something.

2448
01:53:38.579 --> 01:53:40.560
Yeah, yeah, just like, oh, they're going to kill us.

2449
01:53:40.619 --> 01:53:42.060
And the strings start coming in.

2450
01:53:42.119 --> 01:53:43.439
Oh, shit to now.

2451
01:53:43.500 --> 01:53:45.119
We haven't murdered anyone yet.

2452
01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:49.439
Have we saved Marie?

2453
01:53:49.500 --> 01:53:50.579
Is she saved?

2454
01:53:50.640 --> 01:53:51.779
No.

2455
01:53:51.840 --> 01:54:03.060
There was so much happening that I just couldn't go for a while. those 2 plots and the, we actually don't see, they, the last that we saw of that plot was um them saying we're going to try something else.

2456
01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:05.579
And then when we cut back, we find out what it was.

2457
01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:10.800
So we don't get to see that happening because we just concentrate on these plots.

2458
01:54:10.859 --> 01:54:13.920
He goes, we won't be seeing the gaunt for a while.

2459
01:54:13.979 --> 01:54:16.199
Well, maybe episode 5 or six.

2460
01:54:16.260 --> 01:54:19.680
No, I think it's 7 or something, but it is later in the season is just one of them.

2461
01:54:19.859 --> 01:54:28.020
I mean, it is a genius thing that they zoned in on the gore. was a great choice, wasn't it?

2462
01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:28.739
Yeah, yeah.

2463
01:54:28.739 --> 01:54:32.760
Enterprise snuck in 1st and they were that mirror universe.

2464
01:54:32.880 --> 01:54:35.760
And that mirror universe gone is the model for the gone that they have here.

2465
01:54:35.760 --> 01:54:37.979
It doesn't look like the gone in arena.

2466
01:54:37.979 --> 01:54:38.880
A bit bad now, though.

2467
01:54:38.939 --> 01:54:39.600
A bit more detailed.

2468
01:54:39.659 --> 01:54:40.619
Oh, yeah, yeah, much better.

2469
01:54:40.680 --> 01:54:41.399
That's the cartoon.

2470
01:54:41.460 --> 01:54:42.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2471
01:54:42.180 --> 01:54:44.039
Oh, no, everyone looks so concerned.

2472
01:54:44.100 --> 01:54:45.720
Hi, America.

2473
01:54:45.779 --> 01:54:46.979
I have a flyer ship.

2474
01:54:47.039 --> 01:54:48.119
And she's gonna die.

2475
01:54:48.180 --> 01:54:49.920
And she's sort of shutting her eyes.

2476
01:54:50.039 --> 01:54:50.699
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2477
01:54:50.760 --> 01:54:51.539
And then they're beamed out.

2478
01:54:51.600 --> 01:54:52.319
Yes.

2479
01:54:52.380 --> 01:54:54.539
And now we discover what they've done.

2480
01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:55.800
Right?

2481
01:54:55.859 --> 01:54:58.319
And is it Chris out there to try and find out?

2482
01:54:58.380 --> 01:54:58.800
No.

2483
01:54:58.979 --> 01:55:02.460
Anyway, they they discover it.

2484
01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:03.840
And do we find?

2485
01:55:03.840 --> 01:55:05.279
We don't even know what it is here.

2486
01:55:05.340 --> 01:55:07.199
No, they're looking at each other like she could be dead.

2487
01:55:07.260 --> 01:55:08.159
No, no, no.

2488
01:55:08.220 --> 01:55:08.699
No, no, no.

2489
01:55:08.760 --> 01:55:09.600
I don't think so.

2490
01:55:09.600 --> 01:55:10.319
I was in her hand.

2491
01:55:10.979 --> 01:55:12.659
So it's like fighting off an infection.

2492
01:55:12.720 --> 01:55:13.380
Yes exactly.

2493
01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:14.460
Yeah.

2494
01:55:14.460 --> 01:55:16.079
The Gorn versus the Gorn.

2495
01:55:16.140 --> 01:55:17.100
Will they kill each other off?

2496
01:55:17.159 --> 01:55:18.300
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2497
01:55:18.420 --> 01:55:19.380
Yeah.

2498
01:55:19.380 --> 01:55:20.939
So, no, they just dissolve.

2499
01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:26.220
And so it's all the infection caused by the foreign, you know the foreign material in her body.

2500
01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:29.880
I wouldn't feel very good about myself at this point.

2501
01:55:29.880 --> 01:55:33.300
That's what the cancer kind of metaphor is, I think.

2502
01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:34.140
Yeah.

2503
01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:34.739
Yeah.

2504
01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:39.180
Like an like something alien kind of, you know, in your system.

2505
01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:43.500
Ask why, bold storylines. is pretty good.

2506
01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:45.359
Yeah, here we go.

2507
01:55:45.359 --> 01:55:47.880
Oh, this is this. is the best character moment.

2508
01:55:47.939 --> 01:55:49.020
It's so gorgeous.

2509
01:55:49.079 --> 01:55:51.539
He just, there's no time for fucking banter.

2510
01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:52.859
He just wants to hold her.

2511
01:55:52.979 --> 01:55:54.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2512
01:55:54.180 --> 01:55:55.739
Has he been resistant then?

2513
01:55:55.859 --> 01:56:00.119
Because there's a couple of lines, you know, where he said, I miss you and she said, I'll mark the day.

2514
01:56:00.180 --> 01:56:01.140
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2515
01:56:01.199 --> 01:56:02.819
Has he been more tentative in this relationship?

2516
01:56:02.880 --> 01:56:03.779
Sometimes.

2517
01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:04.260
Yeah.

2518
01:56:04.319 --> 01:56:06.539
I mean, the very 1st time we see them, they're in bed together.

2519
01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:09.000
I remember, yeah, in episode one, that's her.

2520
01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:10.920
That lovely snowy location, wasn't it?

2521
01:56:10.979 --> 01:56:12.300
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2522
01:56:12.359 --> 01:56:14.579
Oh, he's like, please let me in.

2523
01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:15.239
Yeah.

2524
01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:16.680
I know.

2525
01:56:16.739 --> 01:56:17.640
No, he prays.

2526
01:56:17.699 --> 01:56:18.479
He's about to pray.

2527
01:56:18.539 --> 01:56:20.880
He says, all right, dad, I'm going to do it.

2528
01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:23.939
And that says so much, doesn't it?

2529
01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:24.539
All right, dad.

2530
01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:25.619
And then he's praying.

2531
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:28.140
And we've never seen that in Star Trek.

2532
01:56:28.260 --> 01:56:31.800
We've never seen a character do, like he's about to say in our father.

2533
01:56:31.859 --> 01:56:33.899
Like he's doing a Christian prayer.

2534
01:56:33.960 --> 01:56:37.500
You know, it's nearly the only reference to Christianity.

2535
01:56:37.560 --> 01:56:38.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2536
01:56:38.939 --> 01:56:39.659
Good.

2537
01:56:39.779 --> 01:56:41.760
Yeah, it's good isn't it?

2538
01:56:41.819 --> 01:56:43.260
Sorry, I pissed off the rest, mate.

2539
01:56:43.319 --> 01:56:44.279
No, but it's interesting.

2540
01:56:44.340 --> 01:56:45.479
I think that is interesting.

2541
01:56:46.140 --> 01:56:50.880
I like the post-religion socialist utopia of Star Trek.

2542
01:56:50.939 --> 01:56:53.699
That's one of the things I like, but I like this.

2543
01:56:53.760 --> 01:57:01.319
Oh, I like the sort of scathing criticism of the Bajoran religion as well. and how contradictory it all is.

2544
01:57:01.380 --> 01:57:04.260
But, you know, like, it's important to Kira.

2545
01:57:04.260 --> 01:57:08.640
And so it's important to us, you know, and we respect our kids that come with me as well.

2546
01:57:08.699 --> 01:57:09.779
So interesting.

2547
01:57:10.500 --> 01:57:12.119
Boo.

2548
01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:15.479
But so anyone didn't pop out of my boy.

2549
01:57:15.539 --> 01:57:16.079
Yes, thank you.

2550
01:57:16.680 --> 01:57:20.279
Couldn't they have had like one colonist come up as well?

2551
01:57:20.340 --> 01:57:21.300
And that person?

2552
01:57:21.359 --> 01:57:22.859
No, has it?

2553
01:57:22.920 --> 01:57:23.699
No, no.

2554
01:57:23.760 --> 01:57:25.199
Oh, God sakes.

2555
01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:26.939
No, we've got to solve it.

2556
01:57:26.939 --> 01:57:27.659
I have a happy ending.

2557
01:57:27.720 --> 01:57:28.560
We did have the blue man.

2558
01:57:28.619 --> 01:57:30.000
We got a happy ending, didn't we?

2559
01:57:30.060 --> 01:57:31.739
What did he ever do wrong?

2560
01:57:31.800 --> 01:57:32.399
Nothing.

2561
01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:33.539
He just wasn't a regular.

2562
01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:34.800
That's it.

2563
01:57:34.859 --> 01:57:37.680
You do understand that regulars are different from everyone else.

2564
01:57:37.739 --> 01:57:42.420
Not Chad Soutax. didn't talk to her about the salary.

2565
01:57:42.479 --> 01:57:44.159
Bam, you're dead.

2566
01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:48.180
Yeah, or Tasha, but, you know, yeah, she wanted that.

2567
01:57:48.239 --> 01:57:50.279
She thought she was going to have a great career ahead.

2568
01:57:50.340 --> 01:57:54.600
Yeah. and thought that Star Trek was going to be terrible, which was a fair bad.

2569
01:57:54.720 --> 01:57:57.359
She's had a great career with Star Trek cruises.

2570
01:57:57.420 --> 01:57:58.020
She does, yeah.

2571
01:57:58.020 --> 01:58:01.859
Running away from Armistice. every single convention.

2572
01:58:01.920 --> 01:58:04.619
Please, everyone, check out the picture.

2573
01:58:04.739 --> 01:58:08.039
Denise Crosby running away from the armous cosplay.

2574
01:58:08.100 --> 01:58:09.539
Best thing ever.

2575
01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:11.579
He's still laughing.

2576
01:58:11.640 --> 01:58:12.479
So good.

2577
01:58:13.020 --> 01:58:15.960
And then we've dissolved to the binary star.

2578
01:58:16.020 --> 01:58:16.859
Gorgeous.

2579
01:58:16.920 --> 01:58:17.340
Yep.

2580
01:58:17.399 --> 01:58:22.439
Enterprise is heading off triumphantly after having solved the problem.

2581
01:58:22.500 --> 01:58:29.460
Which is why we're here, after all. talked about Denise Crosby across that entire scene, unbelievably, thanks to me.

2582
01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:31.739
But and some mound.

2583
01:58:31.800 --> 01:58:33.659
I just like how he delivers that moment.

2584
01:58:33.720 --> 01:58:35.460
It's really good.

2585
01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:36.359
It's beautiful.

2586
01:58:36.420 --> 01:58:38.340
That is a cracking episode.

2587
01:58:38.399 --> 01:58:39.899
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2588
01:58:39.960 --> 01:58:46.020
If I have to sacrifice the 1st slightly quiet 30 minutes of part one.

2589
01:58:46.140 --> 01:58:53.399
The reward is a brilliant part too. and that's rare That is pretty rare.

2590
01:58:53.460 --> 01:58:58.439
I think the hit rate for part 2s is probably about 15%, you know?

2591
01:58:58.560 --> 01:59:01.199
Particularly across the season.

2592
01:59:01.260 --> 01:59:03.420
Not a mid-season 2 parter.

2593
01:59:03.479 --> 01:59:10.439
They're often not very good either, but the part one at the end of a season and part 2 at the beginning, part 2 is never as good.

2594
01:59:10.500 --> 01:59:15.720
Weirdly enough, you know, the one I compared this to, you know, the DS91 where they're also trying to blow up a sun.

2595
01:59:15.779 --> 01:59:17.399
They didn't do it, did they?

2596
01:59:17.460 --> 01:59:22.319
They did a part one and then technically they did another part one at the start of 7 and then the part one.

2597
01:59:22.439 --> 01:59:23.100
Yeah, that's right.

2598
01:59:23.100 --> 01:59:25.199
They gave it 2 episodes worth of buildup.

2599
01:59:25.500 --> 01:59:30.300
Because usually, yeah, it's like, oh, how the fuck do we get out?

2600
01:59:30.359 --> 01:59:31.140
Yeah, that's right.

2601
01:59:31.199 --> 01:59:31.680
That's right.

2602
01:59:31.739 --> 01:59:37.020
But this is very carefully planned and laid across the entire remaining season.

2603
01:59:37.079 --> 01:59:41.520
I mean, I would have been guns blazing for the rest of the season after this, sip I'd have watched it originally.

2604
01:59:41.579 --> 01:59:43.979
Episode 2 has started and there are dogs.

2605
01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:44.579
Our dogs.

2606
01:59:44.640 --> 01:59:46.979
But I think they might be space doc ones.

2607
01:59:47.039 --> 01:59:48.840
They just, oh, yeah.

2608
01:59:48.840 --> 01:59:50.640
In Starbase one.

2609
01:59:50.699 --> 01:59:51.300
A bit sniffing.

2610
01:59:51.359 --> 01:59:51.960
He doesn't like them.

2611
01:59:52.020 --> 01:59:53.880
I'm putting in that reason.

2612
01:59:53.939 --> 01:59:55.800
That's probably good head cannon.

2613
01:59:55.859 --> 01:59:57.779
Well, I think that was magnificent.

2614
01:59:57.899 --> 01:59:59.340
It was really great.

2615
01:59:59.399 --> 02:00:00.180
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2616
02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:05.939
And it was quite nice because we've done like the individual horror one.

2617
02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:15.420
We've done the Christina Chong Fairytale Princess one, which is, you know, what Strange New Worlds does a lot, sort of offbeat episodes.

2618
02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:19.439
We done the music all, which I thought were very well.

2619
02:00:19.500 --> 02:00:20.279
We did that Pirate one?

2620
02:00:20.340 --> 02:00:21.300
Comedy pirate one.

2621
02:00:21.359 --> 02:00:28.199
So they have all been sort of like one off TNG, but better episodes.

2622
02:00:28.260 --> 02:00:38.880
So it was really nice to watch something substantial where they're pulling together a lot of mostly character, but some plot things and where they're certain things out for the future.

2623
02:00:38.939 --> 02:00:40.439
And they do it really well.

2624
02:00:40.500 --> 02:00:41.100
Yeah.

2625
02:00:41.159 --> 02:00:42.600
For me, it's the spectacle.

2626
02:00:43.140 --> 02:00:50.880
There's a few great moments of comedy with Scotty and Pelia.

2627
02:00:50.939 --> 02:00:53.279
For God's sakes, I get her name in my head.

2628
02:00:53.340 --> 02:00:55.500
She's met the fucking doctor for God's sake.

2629
02:00:55.560 --> 02:00:57.420
Pelio and Scotty.

2630
02:00:57.479 --> 02:01:03.960
There's some lovely character moments peppered about, but it's just from the last 10 minutes to the whole of the 2nd episode.

2631
02:01:04.020 --> 02:01:06.180
It is just a feast for the eyes.

2632
02:01:06.239 --> 02:01:09.359
And there's now wrong with that.

2633
02:01:09.420 --> 02:01:11.159
Absolutely not.

2634
02:01:20.220 --> 02:01:24.359
All right, it's the end of the episode and it's time for us to work out where we're going next.

2635
02:01:24.539 --> 02:01:33.479
Yes, I would like to take us to the original series, please, because it's been about 3 pages on the untied Star Trek website.

2636
02:01:33.539 --> 02:01:35.579
About 15 episodes ago.

2637
02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:42.060
It's, I think it's 12 episodes ago that we did the empath and I think probably PTSD has prevented us from going back.

2638
02:01:42.119 --> 02:01:44.699
I mean, I keep taking us to the 90s.

2639
02:01:44.760 --> 02:01:46.680
You keep taking us to Canada.

2640
02:01:46.739 --> 02:01:47.159
Yeah, yeah.

2641
02:01:47.159 --> 02:01:48.899
It's like we're avoiding the 60s.

2642
02:01:48.960 --> 02:01:49.979
And there's good stuff.

2643
02:01:50.039 --> 02:01:50.579
There is.

2644
02:01:50.640 --> 02:01:52.020
And also terrible stuff.

2645
02:01:52.020 --> 02:01:53.760
It's interesting what we're going to get.

2646
02:01:53.880 --> 02:01:57.060
Now, I do have a stipulation. is I want to do a particular season.

2647
02:01:57.119 --> 02:01:58.619
There's only 3 seasons.

2648
02:01:58.680 --> 02:01:59.520
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2649
02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:00.659
Unlike who is, I'll get one.

2650
02:02:00.720 --> 02:02:02.039
I want series one.

2651
02:02:02.100 --> 02:02:02.640
Okay.

2652
02:02:02.640 --> 02:02:04.319
Because we've done very little of Siri as well.

2653
02:02:04.380 --> 02:02:06.000
All right. generally very good.

2654
02:02:06.060 --> 02:02:07.319
So, you ready?

2655
02:02:07.380 --> 02:02:11.880
Yep. let's go Oh, we're doing it.

2656
02:02:11.939 --> 02:02:12.720
We're doing it.

2657
02:02:12.779 --> 02:02:13.920
You're not touching it again.

2658
02:02:14.039 --> 02:02:14.939
We're doing it.

2659
02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:16.079
Say what it is.

2660
02:02:16.140 --> 02:02:17.279
Say what it is.

2661
02:02:17.340 --> 02:02:21.180
Season one, episode 18 Arena.

2662
02:02:21.239 --> 02:02:23.520
Oh, come on, you couldn't have...

2663
02:02:23.520 --> 02:02:24.600
Have you designed this?

2664
02:02:24.659 --> 02:02:27.359
Have you added an algorithm to this?

2665
02:02:27.420 --> 02:02:28.199
Picorina.

2666
02:02:28.380 --> 02:02:30.899
I can, but I haven't.

2667
02:02:30.960 --> 02:02:31.920
No, we're doing that.

2668
02:02:31.979 --> 02:02:33.479
You know, doing it again.

2669
02:02:33.539 --> 02:02:33.779
Yeah.

2670
02:02:33.840 --> 02:02:39.359
There's so little gone, but we're going from gone to gone. slightly less gory.

2671
02:02:39.420 --> 02:02:41.340
So a bit sunnier, perhaps.

2672
02:02:41.399 --> 02:02:41.760
Yes.

2673
02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:45.300
Oh, I think William Shunner gets his top off by the end of the episode.

2674
02:02:45.359 --> 02:02:46.140
I can't remember.

2675
02:02:46.199 --> 02:02:47.939
But I'm going to challenge you.

2676
02:02:48.840 --> 02:02:54.359
I think that you should also watch Terrarium. the hell is that?

2677
02:02:54.420 --> 02:03:09.000
That is the episode in series 3 of Strange New Worlds where we redo Arena, but with Ortegas, and a single gone on a planet.

2678
02:03:09.300 --> 02:03:17.699
And it's also a test being engineered by the Metrons, who we also see.

2679
02:03:17.760 --> 02:03:20.279
I will do it on one condition.

2680
02:03:20.340 --> 02:03:26.760
And that is, it's slightly unfair to compare something that was made in the 60s.

2681
02:03:26.939 --> 02:03:29.579
I know, I know. to something that was made in 2024.

2682
02:03:29.819 --> 02:03:30.420
Yeah.

2683
02:03:30.420 --> 02:03:39.060
So I certainly won't be going down that route of saying, well, this is a better production and all of this.

2684
02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:44.939
I'll take them both on their own terms of when they were made and see what they do differently.

2685
02:03:45.060 --> 02:04:01.979
I still think, I have to say that terrarium is better, even if you grade on a curve, even if you hold, you know, the time period differently, because I think that, um, it tells a better story.

2686
02:04:02.039 --> 02:04:03.659
I haven't seen Arena for years.

2687
02:04:03.659 --> 02:04:04.500
I haven't either.

2688
02:04:04.680 --> 02:04:05.279
I could be wrong.

2689
02:04:05.340 --> 02:04:08.819
I may well be surprised and there's a reason why everyone...

2690
02:04:08.880 --> 02:04:10.380
One is pretty wonderful.

2691
02:04:10.439 --> 02:04:13.979
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. before he's gone, oh.

2692
02:04:14.039 --> 02:04:15.899
Yeah, before his...

2693
02:04:16.020 --> 02:04:17.939
I'm out.

2694
02:04:18.000 --> 02:04:18.539
Yeah.

2695
02:04:18.600 --> 02:04:19.800
But okay, I'll do both.

2696
02:04:19.859 --> 02:04:21.479
Yeah, that'll be an interesting chat, I think.

2697
02:04:21.539 --> 02:04:24.300
But Arena, I mean, it's a celebrated classic.

2698
02:04:24.359 --> 02:04:26.640
We don't do those all the time, do we?

2699
02:04:26.699 --> 02:04:27.720
No, absolutely, we don't.

2700
02:04:27.840 --> 02:04:29.399
Let's do it Brilliant.

2701
02:04:38.460 --> 02:04:42.720
You've been listening to Untitled Star Trek Project with Joe Ford and Nathan Bottomley.

2702
02:04:42.779 --> 02:04:48.779
We're online at Untitled Star Trek Project.com where you can find subscription links and links to our social media accounts.

2703
02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:54.420
Our podcast artwork is by Kayla Ciceran, and the theme was composed by Cameron Lam.

2704
02:04:54.479 --> 02:05:00.840
This episode was recorded on the 27th of September 2025 and released on the 3rd of October.

2705
02:05:00.899 --> 02:05:06.000
We'll see you next time for Star Trek, the original series, Arena.

2706
02:05:21.539 --> 02:05:24.060
Okay, we're testing.

2707
02:05:24.119 --> 02:05:26.340
Yes, hello, gone.

2708
02:05:26.340 --> 02:05:28.500
Yeah, cool.

2709
02:05:28.560 --> 02:05:31.079
My God, Nathan, they're in my arm.

2710
02:05:34.020 --> 02:05:36.779
It's the we're in all over again.

2711
02:05:36.840 --> 02:05:38.159
Are you going to get three?

2712
02:05:38.220 --> 02:05:38.939
Yeah, that's true.

2713
02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:40.500
Yeah, you hadn't seen Alien three.

2714
02:05:40.560 --> 02:05:42.420
I wondered where it was first, though, wouldn't it?

2715
02:05:42.479 --> 02:05:44.399
Cartly X. there anything before that?

2716
02:05:44.460 --> 02:05:45.060
No.

2717
02:05:45.119 --> 02:05:54.060
People kind of suspect that maybe, because, I mean, you know, Ridley Scott was a BBC designer, he's English.

2718
02:05:54.119 --> 02:05:58.439
Oh, so he could well have watched it.

2719
02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:07.319
I mean, I mean, you know, like it is just alien has a lifecycle similar to insects.

2720
02:06:07.380 --> 02:06:08.100
Do you know what I mean?

2721
02:06:08.159 --> 02:06:12.420
Like it's a sort of thing that you could just come up coincidentally with gross.

2722
02:06:12.899 --> 02:06:14.399
Yeah, it's much grosser.

2723
02:06:14.520 --> 02:06:15.659
Yeah, all right.

2724
02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:18.600
I think we're recording and transcribing.

2725
02:06:18.659 --> 02:06:18.899
Look.

2726
02:06:20.159 --> 02:06:22.500
It's not doing very good job.

2727
02:06:23.880 --> 02:06:26.939
The thing on Spotify does amazing.

2728
02:06:27.060 --> 02:06:29.880
Actually, Apple is the most accurate that I've seen.

2729
02:06:29.939 --> 02:06:30.960
Apple does pretty good.

2730
02:06:31.020 --> 02:06:34.800
Yeah, just a few names where you'll misspell them, but it just doesn't know.

2731
02:06:34.859 --> 02:06:46.140
I mean, with a 1000 episodes or, you know, 300 episodes, which is what I have in Flights Entirety, there's no way, or even 166 episodes that we've currently got.

2732
02:06:46.260 --> 02:06:48.060
No, I just like to see that up.

2733
02:06:49.199 --> 02:06:51.779
Yeah, aspirational.

2734
02:06:51.960 --> 02:06:53.520
It is?

2735
02:06:55.859 --> 02:06:56.699
Do you think we should?

2736
02:06:56.760 --> 02:06:57.659
Yeah, ready.

2737
02:06:57.720 --> 02:06:58.260
Yeah, okay.

2738
02:06:58.319 --> 02:06:58.859
Okay.

2739
02:07:00.060 --> 02:07:02.640
Hey, Joe. Hi.