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Hey, Joe. Hi.

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So, we are back again in person, recording this extra long episode

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of Untitled Star Trek Project.

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I had no excuses, did we?

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Not to watch 2 episodes back-to-back given that you're with me for

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a week.

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That's right, that's right.

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The fact that we've only watched 3 episodes of Star Trek this week

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is astonishing.

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Well, we've done some Andor, we've done some DVD extras, base

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precincts, dating naked, obviously.

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Only a 3rd.

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It's a little bit much to take.

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But we are here to watch Stranger Worlds.

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We're watching the series 2 finale and the series 3 opener.

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It's a 2 parter called hegemony and hedgemony part two.

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Glad you clear that up because I keep saying it wrong.

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Hegemony.

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Hegemony.

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There's some ways of saying, you can say hi Germany as well, if

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you like.

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I probably will.

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Yeah.

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So series 2, episode 10 of Strange New Worlds, and on the 10th of

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August 2023, and series 3, episode one, didn't air until this

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year.

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So 17th of July 2025.

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What occurred?

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I think probably the writer strike, but also just, you know, like

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with Star Trek the Next Generation, it didn't just run like non

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stop for 26 weeks.

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It would stop in the middle of a season, go back and do some

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repeats and stuff.

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And so it was probably just a few months between parts one and 2

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of best of both world.

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It was the summer.

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I know that because I remember it was an interminably long summer

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between fire and whatever the conclusion was.

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Disappointing.

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And it's funny that we should mention best of both worlds because

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of course, this is very similar.

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It is their kind of attempt to do best of both worlds.

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We've already had a gone episode, which was series one, episode

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nine, which we've already covered on untitled Star Trek project

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which culminated in the death of Hammer.

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Oh, yeah.

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So good.

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Was that the end of the gore one?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That might be my favourite episode of Strange New World.

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It just got everything, isn't it?

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So this is a little bit different from that.

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The scale is a little bit bigger and there's, you know, more human

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beings involved, but it is very similar.

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The cliffhanger is a big moment of decision on the bridge and part

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2 ends with them ordering the enemy to go to sleep, which is how

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they defeat them.

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I thought, you know, you and I, we've talked a little bit off mic

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about comparisons with this and best of both worlds.

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And I think in some ways, It's utterly the reverse of best of both

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worlds in that, I really think, uh, best of both worlds has got a

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better 1st episode, and I think Gemini has got a better 2nd

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episode, the best of both worlds.

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I do think they both have a really lame conclusion.

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The same conclusion at that.

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And now this version is more visually stunning.

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You know, it's it's got more excitement to it in the Best of Way

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of Wells. just data going, go to sleep. and before all go to sleep

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you know?

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But it is similarly.

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Okay, we're in this mortal danger, that threatened the whole of

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the federation. and then it's just gone.

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Yeah, you know?

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But our 2nd episode is fantastic.

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And just on a production level, what they're doing with Strange

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New Worlds, it's just out of this world. like it is relentless.

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And I know we're doing the 1st episode first.

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My only issue with that is, and I even think you could sense it

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from me, somewhere around the middle of the 1st episode, I was

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sort of sinking into my seat going, where's the going?

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Why aren't they tearing people apart?

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And then suddenly they were sort of trapped in one room and it's

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supposed to be a really tense, but there's no gaunts at the door.

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No one's battering to come in.

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No one's behaving in a particularly, we're in a tense situation

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way despite the appearance of viscous amounts of blood all over

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the walls everywhere.

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Then somewhere in the last 10 minutes, that 1st episode just

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kicked into gear, like big time.

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And from that point on, I think it's probably sprinting to its

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conclusion.

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I think the big thing that happens is, of course, the destruction

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of the Cayuga, which is Marie Battel's ship, and they come upon

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it.

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So they arrive after it's been destroyed.

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And so then you've got the stuff about where are the survivors of

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the Cayuga, where are the 1000s of colonists?

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Proper stakes with the crew.

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Yes, it's people that we really care about.

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Christine was on board the Cayuga.

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Just remember because she was being taken to her internship with

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Roger Corby.

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So she was travelling with Marie and we see her at the beginning.

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And so we have Spock worried about Christine.

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We have the captain worried about Marie.

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And then Laan, Amabunga, they're all... captured by the corn at

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the end.

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So there's sort of personal stakes everywhere.

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The colonists.

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I don't give a fuck about those people.

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It could be the people of Veridian 4 for all I care about.

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We do see them and I do think that opening with the colony where

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it is like the backlot and it's a small American town, which is

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sort of classic Star Trek. you know, if in Star Trek, the Next

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Generation, you can have the Scottish theme park planet.

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Here we have the American small town colony, which I just think is

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absolutely adorable.

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And it means those visuals rather than being in various space

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places in like a diner.

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There's a wonderful scene in the street where they hide it beyond

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cars. from the gall, so going past.

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It's just something we can relate to.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Rather than stock colony set, number 18.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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But I also think too, that one of the things that Star Trek

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Strangely World stars, and I think I come at this is a Doctor Who

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fan, that Doctor Who is always the thing that you started watching

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when you were tan, wherever we were up to.

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And so, you know, the answer to the question, I'd like to watch

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Doctor Who.

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Where should I start is always, well, what's on when you're tan

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you know?

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And so Doctor Who doesn't remake stories, but it does redo things

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for each generation of its audience as it goes through.

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We get classic based under siege in every era.

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Exactly.

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And there's a...

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And I think what Stranger World stars in season three.

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It kind of redoes arena, only with better storytelling, better

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production value, and perhaps even a better story in some ways.

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We do the holodeck goes wrong episode, which is an episode that's

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additionally about Star Trek as a franchise and it gives all of

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our regulars a chance to play different parts, which is fun.

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Not sure they've ever topped our man, Bashir, though, Varmonos.

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Oh, they do borrow the our man Bashir idea of using everyone's

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transporter pattern to get the regulars into the holodeck

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simulation.

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But that is less of a holodeck goes wrong and more of a let's have

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fun with bombs.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Well, this is, I mean, you know, this talks about Star Trek as a

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show and gets to reflect on the quality of Star Trek and where it

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comes from and stuff.

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So it's a little bit more, it's got a bit more to it, a bit more

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going on than previous holodeck goes wrong episodes.

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And I just sort of think that's a thing that Strange New Worlds

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does, that what it does is really classic Star Trek things.

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It sometimes pushes beyond the boundaries with the musical, for

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instance, or, um, you know, with next year's puppet show or with

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the documentary.

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It's a gone episode.

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I mean, I've never seen a horror like it.

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No, no.

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So it does push beyond what Star Trek's done before, but it also

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redoes the things that Star Trek does because it's still Star Trek

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and there's a generation of, well, probably not kids for Strange

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Worlds because it's super violent.

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Oh, they love that stuff.

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What are you talking about?

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Yeah.

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But, you know, like a new audience comes along and this is the

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sort of thing that a new audience appreciates and understands, and

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it offers, I think, a sort of path to go back to the old stuff

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from a point of view of being familiar with what it's like.

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The 2 things I notice most, right?

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When I was comparing this to, God, I have to keep saying best of

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both worlds.

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Yeah, we'll see abbreviation of that.

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B-O-B-W.

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B-O-B-W.

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Oh, go, I'll try it. is 2 things.

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One was in best of both worlds. is like, you know, the greatest

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threat to the ship.

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One person may leave, you know?

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In this, it's the whole fucking crew. you know, there's a few

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people left on the bridge because they've got to sort out the

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problem.

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But otherwise everybody is in a situation of extreme peril.

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Yeah.

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And that's a huge step up, you know?

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Because in, there's just loads of people standing around in rooms

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going, what are we going to do about that one person?

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You know, who's in trouble?

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So the stakes just feel much bigger here.

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The 2nd thing is, and it's something we've talked about before.

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It was just the presence of so many amazing women in this show.

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And I was looking at the bridge at the side of my God, there's

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more women than men there.

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Happy days.

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No wonder this is such a fucking competent ship.

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There's no Tom Paris, Jakotay, you know, getting in the way.

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Like, they wouldn't have dreamt in the day to have given Troy or

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Beverly Crusher.

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The stuff that they're giving the ladies to do in this two-parter

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and it's a shame and you and me have talked this week quite a bit

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about Star Trek.

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And at one point I just turned around and said, well, they wasted

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them for 7 years because they could have had, they could have.

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They chose not to because they did with DS9, you know, give the

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women big, strong, meaty action parts in, you know, tense

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episodes.

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And they just chose not to do it.

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And the fact that it's just not even a consideration, in part two

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um, Erica has literally had a fucking hand half eaten off, and

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she's there at the bloody console, blood dripping out everywhere

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from where she's been stabbed, and she's the one that saves the

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day, and it's just amazing.

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I love seeing just women on top in this show being incredible.

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I realise now that's the other half bar audience got an

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apologies.

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Star Trek fans.

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Don't like that sort of thing, do they?

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Well, I think it's well past time that it happened.

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And even when we think about Deep Space 9, which probably, well

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Deep Space 9 and Voyager both do a passable job of giving women

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things to do.

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But remember, there's only 2 female regulars in Deep Space 9 and

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only 3 in Voyager.

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I'll say it again, though.

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I always say there is such an extensive female bee cast in Dear's

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mind.

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There's always women about.

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Yeah, that's right.

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But here, like I actually really worried for Erica because I was

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aware that the Gorn kill off hammer.

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They play it like that, and they do.

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She goes, I did good, didn't I?

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Or something like that.

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You're like, 0 my god. that's all right.

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They definitely know what they're doing with the genre.

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And there she goes.

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You're not getting rid of me that easily. like that, it was

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great.

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And the other thing that this shares with best of both worlds is

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that it has consequences.

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And best of both worlds mostly clears those up in family, but

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obviously they're still there in 1st contact.

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I need to clear this up with you, though, before we go in, all

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right?

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You can tell me about some of the consequences of this, but I've

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not seen the season ahead, okay?

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So try and tiptoe around the biggest sporters.

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I mean, I'm figuring that we're losing Marie this year.

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I don't know why and I don't know that that's true, but I think we

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are.

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And there is ongoing stuff with Marie, like she isn't just

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completely cured and we never speak of it again.

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She's wonderful.

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And she stays on the ship for much of series 3 recovering.

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You're going to play out that relationship.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And she's lost her ship, obviously.

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So she's recuperating on board Enterprise.

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They are Pike's best scenes.

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Where he goes up to her at the end and says, will you just let me

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hold you, please?

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I was, you know me, hard as a rock.

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And I was holding back tears at that point.

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In fact, she has in the following episode a great scene with him

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which is almost the opposite of that, where it's, I'm going

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through this myself.

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I don't have time to kind of baby you as well, which I just

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thought was fantastic and very real, like really real.

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I thought both of them did a great job.

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We do need to baby men a lot. that we expected of.

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So like that was really good.

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We discovered the consequences for Erica at the end of the next

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episode and then that plays into the other big gone episode in

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this season, which is called terrarium towards the end of the

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season and there's another great kind of remake of a Star Trek

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staple.

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So this is important.

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It does have consequences.

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And the other thing that we haven't mentioned is, of course, the

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introduction of Martin Queen as Scotty takes place.

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Sublime.

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That accent is so sexy.

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And no, wait.

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What's the woman's name with the crazy head?

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Yeah, Pellia.

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Fuck me, she's my favourite character now.

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That crazy accent. she does.

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She's so eccentric, isn't she?

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She don't care how weird she is.

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Pairing them up is all that stuff where she's going to, you know

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don't promise nothing.

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And then he comes in, pike.

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And she goes, so, well, get it done.

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Don worry.

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We got it.

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Scott is like, what are you doing?

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I mean, if that's a double act going forward in free.

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They've got... gold.

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Yeah. you know.

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You know the classic Trek double X. They weren't really well, don't

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they?

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Spock and McCoy, Cork and Odo.

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Too fucking Neelix.

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Sometimes, yeah, sometimes.

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And this looks already the 1st steps out of the gate, that is

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going to be an absolute classic double act. funny.

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One last thing I wanted to talk about is that I think both best of

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both worlds and hegemony.

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Okay, I sound pain, but I think I'm there. get wrong. is how they

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present the danger at the start.

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One comes in before the action hits, and that's hegemony.

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We're on the planet and suddenly there's a huge shadow in the sky

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and then we cut to the credits and the other one comes in after

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the colony's been attacked at the start and we just and I do think

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that's a better one actually because it's so striking, that visual

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of the entire colony scooped away from the planet.

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No one wants to show the bloody...

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And because I don't think as much money as there is here for

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Strange New Worlds.

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They still have to choose very carefully where they use because

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those scorns cannot be cheap to CGI in with political actors.

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I think, though, that you want to hold the big confrontation to

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the climax.

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And so going around the confrontation at the beginning, because

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what happens is that Cayuga is attacked, but we don't get to see

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it.

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So while the opening credits are on, I guess, the colony gets

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attacked and invaded.

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The Cayuga is destroyed.

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And then when the Enterprise arrives by the time they arrive. takes

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a while, though.

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We're on the Enterprise for about 10 or 15 minutes.

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Then we go down to the planet and the Gaunts are on the street.

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You see them, but they still don't actually do anything.

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So it isn't until that last 10 minutes where I actually felt, okay

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people are in genuine danger.

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I know people are dead around them and there's, but I thought I

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need to see characters in some sort of physical danger.

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And then I think episode two, like the 2nd episode is pretty

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relentless.

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I never stopped being in danger in that.

349
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Oh, wow, I mean, I suppose we'll be better. watch it.

350
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We was talking about that whole thing.

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The beginning, the middle and the end.

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And we haven't pressed play yet.

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No, I thought let's do that.

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Let's do that Okay, I'm ready.

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All right.

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So then in that case, I will count us in.

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Five, four, three, two, one, and we're off.

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Here we go.

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Yeah, love the item.

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I might just get this out of the way now, actually, before we even

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go in.

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I don't want to hurt you, Marie.

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You mean more and more to me.

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I was just singing that.

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I kept hearing it every time she was in danger.

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I felt as if they were sort of warning us by saying he cares about

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it.

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Yeah, yeah, that she'd be in trouble.

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So we've got a previously we've got a flashback to the um, uh, the

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series one episode and then after that, as usual, It's just

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interpersonal.

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Lots of character work.

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Well, we established Spock and Christine.

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We establish, Hammer.

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Oh, lots of blood.

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Do we see the blue man getting split apart?

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we do?

378
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Yeah, there it is.

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He falls to the ground.

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And the golden puppets.

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Oh, lots of explosions.

382
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That was such a...

383
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It's the best.

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It's the best Stranger New World episode.

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Look at that man being...

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Jesus Christ.

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Notice that we start with the sun.

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And then we pull out to the colony, the planet, you know, a patel

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going around the thing, but the sun is what solves the problem

390
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remember?

391
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Well, the sun's how we start the 2nd episode as well.

392
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Yes, but we established the sun at the beginning.

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This is just glorious, isn't it?

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Like this small town.

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It's like a backlot or something and it like flower.

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It's just terrific.

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Just made idyllic. made to the plate.

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Nothing awful happens to these people.

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Oh, that child has just had the best haircut ever.

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It's a handsome guy in the background.

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I refuse to believe that Middle America, even on an alien world, is

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this happening?

403
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wonderful, isn't it?

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I like the thing they've all got secrets on each other.

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Oh, look, Christine's with this little girl.

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She's giving injection.

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There's your shots.

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There's the odd space thing.

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Like, you know, like that might be for charging the cars or

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something.

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But it's wonderful.

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I just think that's a great choice.

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It's so much better than just having a space colony.

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Do they do space colony sets in strange new worlds?

415
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They don't have stock.

416
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Oh, no, they just use a wall, don't they?

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The wall effects.

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Yeah, they go down on the planet.

419
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Oh, what a shame.

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I wish I do one before the end, you know, but just show you right

421
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it can be done really, really well.

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But having Christine on board the Cayuga raises the steaks and it

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continues, you know, it means that she is going.

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And I think she does tell Spock at some point, you know that I'm

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still going for 3 months.

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Actually, um, now I'm watching episode one again, after an episode

427
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two, he does look a bit younger, doesn't he?

428
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Men do tend to age a bit in 2 years.

429
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So they're FaceTiming each other on their iPads at the moment

430
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aren't they?

431
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How are you holding up?

432
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Well, I'm not bursting into that.

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I don't want to hurt you, Marie.

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I think they do a great job of establishing this relationship.

435
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Look at that.

436
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It looks like the TNG things I used to take down with the

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suitcases.

438
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

439
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No, it's all space luggage.

440
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Spacelash.

441
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It should sort of hover on the ground, you know?

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Oh, I miss you, he said.

443
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Oh, look, she's so gorgeous. too.

444
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No, the date and time.

445
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Is that so hard to say?

446
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wonderful, is it?

447
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That's wonderful, Bless.

448
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It is a thing with men, isn't it?

449
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Well, not with ours.

450
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We're quite good with our emotions, but a lot of men.

451
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Yeah.

452
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See, too, they've lost contact.

453
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I can't remember.

454
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That present she gave him?

455
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Yeah, it must be.

456
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Oh dear.

457
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Now, wait, the great shadow in the sky comes over the whole

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spaceship, it looks amazing.

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Like, I think it is a really striking image.

460
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Is it just a special effect?

461
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imagine they just...

462
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No, you have a look.

463
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Have a look.

464
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It's coming now.

465
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So that's the shuttle with Scotty on board.

466
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Oh yes.

467
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Yeah, crash landing.

468
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Yeah.

469
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He's improvising us, we speak.

470
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

471
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That's all right.

472
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So he's about to learn it.

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You see all the debris for him as well. wonderful.

474
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And then he, look, we get his reaction, we get her turning around

475
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and that...

476
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That's just a massive gone spaceship.

477
00:20:38.339 --> 00:20:39.839
Yeah, but what sort of shape is it?

478
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I can't tell it's got a big cloud around.

479
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It's part of the thing.

480
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You can't tell.

481
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And then it's just a shadow coming over the...

482
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Hegemony, their sort of version of Federation.

483
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Is that okay?

484
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Is it a made-up word?

485
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No, it's a real word.

486
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And it means domination through power, essentially.

487
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What's it usually describing?

488
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They do have the European Hegemony in Star Trek, the next

489
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generation.

490
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They mention it as one of the power blocks.

491
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Oh, now, I must say, I did feel sorry for number one and Ahura, who

492
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were just stuck on the bridge...

493
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And Mitchell as well.

494
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Yeah, but she got a line.

495
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I was quite happy about it.

496
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She got more lines in this than I saw Linda Park get in several

497
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seasons of Enterprise.

498
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So I was quite pleased about that.

499
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I think Erica so pretty.

500
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Yeah, she's great isn't she?

501
00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.359
Yeah, well, she's wonderful in episode 2 of it.

502
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Yeah, she's really good, isn't she?

503
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bleeding to death.

504
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And now he's handsome, Robert April.

505
00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:37.319
Yeah, but what a prick.

506
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He goes, no, no, no.

507
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Sorry, there's no stakes for the Federation, so let the colony all

508
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die.

509
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Get out of there.

510
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What?

511
00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:44.339
Yeah.

512
00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:48.420
Yeah, you've got to have someone hampering him so that, yeah.

513
00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.940
But Picard would have gone, oh, well, okay.

514
00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:53.819
With a sad spot with the pikes, like, no.

515
00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:59.160
I think what's great too is that these guys are friends, like they

516
00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:01.859
call each other by their 1st name, he's cre- well, he's calling

517
00:22:01.859 --> 00:22:04.619
him captain, but, um, well, the admiral.

518
00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:06.000
Yeah, the admiral.

519
00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:07.140
He calls the admiral.

520
00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:07.680
Oh, okay.

521
00:22:07.740 --> 00:22:09.000
Usually down the way round, yeah.

522
00:22:09.059 --> 00:22:09.660
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

523
00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:15.359
So, Chris, but, you know, um, so they're friends, and we saw him

524
00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:18.480
in episode one of Strange 2 Worlds.

525
00:22:18.539 --> 00:22:20.579
He comes and picks Pike Art.

526
00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:24.720
I'd say he's a step up, obviously, from Admiral Ross. but he's a

527
00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:28.259
step down from Admiral Nachev, where he's still the best admiral

528
00:22:28.259 --> 00:22:28.440
ever.

529
00:22:28.500 --> 00:22:30.839
He's still more handsome than the chair.

530
00:22:30.900 --> 00:22:32.220
No, but she's terrifying.

531
00:22:32.339 --> 00:22:33.059
She is.

532
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:34.920
Oh, shits his knickers.

533
00:22:34.980 --> 00:22:35.880
Every time she turns up.

534
00:22:35.940 --> 00:22:38.579
Oh, what about that admiral who tells him to shut the fuck up or

535
00:22:38.579 --> 00:22:39.720
something in the car?

536
00:22:39.779 --> 00:22:40.619
She's only in one.

537
00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:41.460
Yeah, that's true.

538
00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:42.359
She is pretty great.

539
00:22:42.420 --> 00:22:45.180
Oh my god, so they're all waiting. what's happened They're going

540
00:22:45.180 --> 00:22:46.200
around the corner now.

541
00:22:46.259 --> 00:22:47.819
We know something awful is going to happen because we're getting

542
00:22:47.819 --> 00:22:49.619
so many extreme close-ups of everybody.

543
00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:52.380
And it happens before the credits.

544
00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:54.900
I thought that it happened during the credits, but in fact, they

545
00:22:54.900 --> 00:22:58.319
arrive and the Cayuga has already been destroyed and that's what

546
00:22:58.319 --> 00:22:59.039
we go to credits.

547
00:22:59.099 --> 00:23:02.460
And yeah, see, it makes it so personal for Pike.

548
00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:05.039
And, you know, Star Trek the Next Generation starts to get there

549
00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:09.059
in series 3 and obviously Strange New Worlds has that, you know

550
00:23:09.059 --> 00:23:13.079
Shelby Riker thing going on.

551
00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:17.880
But this, you know, has gone even further in that direction to

552
00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:20.400
make it more personal for Pike and Spark.

553
00:23:20.460 --> 00:23:24.599
The best of us needs the Shelby Riker stuff, because it won't lean

554
00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:28.079
enough into the threat of the Borg.

555
00:23:28.140 --> 00:23:30.299
Like, it needs stuff to pad out the time.

556
00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:34.440
And it does it does tie the 2 together and like in episode 2 where

557
00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:37.380
they're working together. like it is a very satisfying character

558
00:23:37.380 --> 00:23:42.660
piece within best of both worlds, but like it is sort of filler in

559
00:23:42.660 --> 00:23:43.440
the 1st episode.

560
00:23:43.500 --> 00:23:44.759
Yeah, yeah.

561
00:23:44.819 --> 00:23:47.940
I mean, it works because we actually have been asking that

562
00:23:47.940 --> 00:23:49.200
question about Riker as well.

563
00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:53.039
Now, did I notice that in the title sequence here that the special

564
00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:56.460
effects change between 2 and 3 and between one and two?

565
00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:57.539
What the hell is that?

566
00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:00.000
And within series three.

567
00:24:00.059 --> 00:24:03.000
There's a there's a number of episodes of series 3 that dispense

568
00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.099
with the titles altogether for various reasons.

569
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:09.240
I think for just one part of the title sequence, yeah, within all

570
00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:13.200
of this sort of visual beauty that we're seeing and rocks tumbling

571
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.859
around and great poetry in the sky and things, that we should just

572
00:24:16.859 --> 00:24:19.859
go past like one stock colony, say, or something really boring

573
00:24:19.859 --> 00:24:22.140
from the 90s to make the country.

574
00:24:22.259 --> 00:24:23.339
I mean, what's that?

575
00:24:23.339 --> 00:24:24.599
That's Starbase one.

576
00:24:24.660 --> 00:24:27.960
The great crystal domes of Starbase one. my god.

577
00:24:28.019 --> 00:24:29.700
There's a forest in there.

578
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:30.839
There's a forest as well.

579
00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:31.619
Do they go into that?

580
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:32.880
I don't think so.

581
00:24:32.940 --> 00:24:34.920
Oh, maybe, I don't remember.

582
00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:36.000
Use the wall, people.

583
00:24:36.059 --> 00:24:37.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

584
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:38.519
But maybe they do.

585
00:24:38.579 --> 00:24:40.500
A wall can handle a crystal forest.

586
00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:44.640
I think they on Starbase one for most of episode two.

587
00:24:44.700 --> 00:24:46.079
I didn't sing the music.

588
00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:46.619
I really sad.

589
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:47.819
I'll do it for episode two.

590
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:48.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

591
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:50.039
Thank God we're doing two.

592
00:24:50.099 --> 00:24:52.680
I would have made you go back and start again.

593
00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:54.900
Yeah, the whole source has been torn apart.

594
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:58.259
I've not seen that much devastation since the defiant was ripped

595
00:24:58.259 --> 00:24:59.759
apart and changed the face of evil.

596
00:24:59.819 --> 00:25:00.299
Very small.

597
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:01.559
It was.

598
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:03.539
It was great though.

599
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:05.400
Yeah.

600
00:25:05.460 --> 00:25:08.519
And so we know, we've mentioned, I mean, we know that Christina

601
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.019
was on board the Cayuga as well.

602
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:14.220
By all accounts, she is dead right now until we know any better.

603
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.539
They're trying not to say that because he, because I think Chris

604
00:25:18.539 --> 00:25:23.640
says we know, like, he knows that Batel was calling him from the

605
00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:26.880
colony, like FaceTiming him from the colony.

606
00:25:26.940 --> 00:25:30.420
And there's a, there is a little running thing about hope here as

607
00:25:30.420 --> 00:25:30.779
well.

608
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:32.819
Like he says we should keep hope.

609
00:25:32.819 --> 00:25:36.180
Like, that happens a couple of times where they refer to hope.

610
00:25:36.299 --> 00:25:36.839
Oh shit.

611
00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:37.859
Did you see that line?

612
00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:38.940
I'm sorry.

613
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:43.980
The field renders us beaming anyone off the planet or off the

614
00:25:43.980 --> 00:25:44.220
ship.

615
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:45.960
Well, of course, we had to get that line.

616
00:25:46.019 --> 00:25:47.099
Otherwise, why won't we doing that?

617
00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:50.400
But it's important for the plot because, in fact, what they have

618
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:55.440
to do is disable the big gone tower that's preventing

619
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:59.099
communications and transport that becomes our goal and remember

620
00:25:59.099 --> 00:26:02.339
what ends up happening is Pellia puts rockets, like they put

621
00:26:02.339 --> 00:26:05.099
rockets on the, on the Cayuga source.

622
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:06.359
Oh, yeah, around it.

623
00:26:06.420 --> 00:26:09.779
It's just astonishing how, you know, during the stories where we

624
00:26:09.779 --> 00:26:11.279
really need the transporter.

625
00:26:11.339 --> 00:26:14.039
There's always a space reason as to why we can't do that.

626
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.140
But it is consistent with what we had before.

627
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:20.160
Remember last time we had, we, the Gorn couldn't be detected by

628
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:25.980
the ships senses or by the tricorders.

629
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.680
I may have been destructed by all the dripping viscera of that

630
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:28.980
episode.

631
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:30.960
So that's definitely a thing you have.

632
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:35.039
It's hanging from the ceiling at one point. so great.

633
00:26:35.099 --> 00:26:37.500
So the Gorner communicating with them.

634
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.160
It's a message saying, saying, that's it.

635
00:26:41.220 --> 00:26:41.579
Yeah.

636
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:43.559
That basically means you're fucked.

637
00:26:43.619 --> 00:26:45.180
No, it's this map.

638
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:46.619
And they send them a map.

639
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:48.119
It's just a JPEG.

640
00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:49.920
The Parnassus beat.

641
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:50.819
The Parnassus beat.

642
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.380
Well, Parnassus beat is the name of the planet.

643
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:53.160
Okay.

644
00:26:53.220 --> 00:26:54.900
Oh, actually, no.

645
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:55.980
So hang on.

646
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:58.200
Oh, hey, hey, it does look a bit like that in two.

647
00:26:58.259 --> 00:27:00.539
No, it's bigger into.

648
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:05.099
We'll get there, but because 2 years pass between one and two, um

649
00:27:05.099 --> 00:27:09.059
uh, I think in best of both worlds, Beverly gets a different wig

650
00:27:09.059 --> 00:27:11.460
for 2 and she suddenly has longer hair.

651
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.240
Excuse me, Bonnie in the rally.

652
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.460
Oh no, there's a bit of that in Doctor Who as well.

653
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:23.519
Um, uh, but, uh, what, just look at the light coming in the wind.

654
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:24.000
I sorry.

655
00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:28.019
It's just so just we've watched a lot of 90s trek lately where no

656
00:27:28.019 --> 00:27:29.819
light comes in the windows.

657
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:31.680
And look at practical lights on the sand as well.

658
00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:33.420
Well, that's appearance on the sand.

659
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:35.940
You get a bit of that in DSN, but you just don't get the light

660
00:27:35.940 --> 00:27:36.839
coming in the windows.

661
00:27:36.900 --> 00:27:39.599
They never should have moved DS9 away from Bayshore, you know.

662
00:27:39.660 --> 00:27:41.759
It would have been fabulous to have the sun coming in all the

663
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:41.940
time.

664
00:27:42.299 --> 00:27:45.059
Oh, God, I think Kirk's so hot.

665
00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:48.059
That weird caterpillar he's got on his top lip.

666
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:54.000
So remember that when he appears in TOS and he's killed at the

667
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.160
beginning of an episode of a TOS episode.

668
00:27:56.220 --> 00:27:57.240
Oh, yeah.

669
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:01.019
And he is played by Shatner with a moustache, a fake moustache

670
00:28:01.019 --> 00:28:01.440
on.

671
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.920
And so they, they had, there's been dialogue about the moustache

672
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:08.099
when he 1st, he's just grown it at the beginning of series.

673
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:09.420
This TV show.

674
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.299
We know the fates of all of these people and it ain't good for any

675
00:28:12.299 --> 00:28:12.599
of them.

676
00:28:12.660 --> 00:28:15.180
Well, in fact, one of the things, no, look, the only person

677
00:28:15.180 --> 00:28:17.579
who...

678
00:28:17.579 --> 00:28:19.019
Pike is going to end up disabled.

679
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:21.660
Kirk is going to end up dead.

680
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:22.079
Yep.

681
00:28:22.140 --> 00:28:23.759
This is Sam Kirk we're talking about.

682
00:28:23.819 --> 00:28:28.259
Or, um, Nurse Chapel is going to end up a simpering idiot. number

683
00:28:28.259 --> 00:28:29.759
one's going to be written out completely.

684
00:28:29.819 --> 00:28:30.539
Yeah, that's right.

685
00:28:30.539 --> 00:28:34.140
Oh, I suppose Ahura and she'll be aged up and she'll lose her

686
00:28:34.140 --> 00:28:37.980
memory and various other things will happen to her. speak very odd

687
00:28:37.980 --> 00:28:38.460
languages.

688
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.880
Yeah, we don't know what happens to Arn, and because we don't know

689
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:42.960
what happens to Erica.

690
00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:45.180
I thought that maybe we're going to lose Erica.

691
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.880
I think generally what's going to, you know, really the 2 that

692
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:49.799
they can, but they're not going to do that.

693
00:28:49.859 --> 00:28:54.539
I think the, you know, this is a show that we'll just keep the

694
00:28:54.539 --> 00:28:56.940
regular cast generally all the way.

695
00:28:57.059 --> 00:28:59.759
Well, this is why then we need our Maurice and things.

696
00:28:59.819 --> 00:29:01.859
So actually, people, we could genuinely lose.

697
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:02.700
Yeah.

698
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.039
Otherwise, you know, there's no snakes at all, is there?

699
00:29:05.099 --> 00:29:07.019
Well, no one's going to die ever.

700
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:09.779
But, you know, not like a good death?

701
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:10.380
No.

702
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:11.400
Why?

703
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.160
I don't think killing regular characters is all that cool.

704
00:29:14.220 --> 00:29:15.299
Like, what's the point?

705
00:29:15.420 --> 00:29:16.200
It's a TV show.

706
00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:18.480
You don't watch Battlestar Galactica then.

707
00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:20.400
Yeah, yeah, I've noted them regularly over there.

708
00:29:20.460 --> 00:29:23.519
I mean, you know, it's a TV show.

709
00:29:23.579 --> 00:29:24.359
We know they're gonna win.

710
00:29:24.420 --> 00:29:26.519
Like, there's no stakes.

711
00:29:26.579 --> 00:29:27.660
It doesn't have to be peril.

712
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.359
I'm wondering whether they're going to get out of this.

713
00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:31.980
Love Bad Star Galactica.

714
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:33.480
Oh, great death, though.

715
00:29:33.539 --> 00:29:34.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

716
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.079
But I think this isn't the sort of show that does that.

717
00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:40.200
You know, and the hammer thing was a last minute thing.

718
00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:43.380
Hammer was a semi-regular character, but they decided it would be

719
00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:46.799
more impactful if they put him in a bit more throughout the season

720
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:48.720
and then kill him off in nine.

721
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.900
To be fair, though, we've already learned with Star Trek, you know

722
00:29:51.900 --> 00:29:55.200
they're doing the Doctor Who 2010s thing of, you know, Keller

723
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:55.619
regular.

724
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.140
No, we like them, bring them back, uh, because that's what

725
00:29:58.140 --> 00:30:01.259
happened to that doctor in discovery, you know, and into shacks in

726
00:30:01.259 --> 00:30:01.799
lower days.

727
00:30:01.859 --> 00:30:03.299
Come on.

728
00:30:03.299 --> 00:30:05.099
They got away with that one.

729
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:06.720
That did happen to, no.

730
00:30:06.779 --> 00:30:07.680
We don't talk about it.

731
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.500
It tried so hard to find out.

732
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:11.400
Do we ever find out?

733
00:30:11.460 --> 00:30:12.299
No.

734
00:30:12.299 --> 00:30:13.319
Oh, great.

735
00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:16.380
It's a rewriting of the timeline.

736
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:21.240
So Erica is so funny in this because Pike goes to her and says, you

737
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.140
know, you've been begging me to be in a landing party and she just

738
00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:28.140
sort of does this fixed smile and says, yeah, why have I been

739
00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:28.380
doing that?

740
00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:31.319
And of course, this goes very wrong for her?

741
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:32.880
Anybody, right?

742
00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:34.680
You listen to me, you Star Trek fans.

743
00:30:34.740 --> 00:30:37.559
That suggests that, you know, all the 90 stuff was better than

744
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:37.799
this.

745
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.099
Go and watch that scene in Best of Both Worlds, where they

746
00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:43.319
discover the wreckage in part two, right?

747
00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:47.640
And we can barely afford 3 ships and a few poems.

748
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.019
Just a minute ago.

749
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.859
Look, we're sort of going through all of this twisted debris with

750
00:30:52.859 --> 00:30:53.519
the shuttle.

751
00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:56.700
And then I think we go straight into the like the decks of the

752
00:30:56.700 --> 00:30:57.299
ship in a minute.

753
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.220
Yeah, that happens later.

754
00:30:59.220 --> 00:31:00.180
Incredibly good.

755
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.519
I've said to you several times this week.

756
00:31:02.579 --> 00:31:04.680
TV is cinema these days.

757
00:31:04.740 --> 00:31:05.279
Yeah, yeah.

758
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.019
Some days it's better than cinema.

759
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.259
And I think occasionally Strange New Worlds is there.

760
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:11.279
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

761
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.259
I think consistently it is, you know.

762
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.740
I did feel, though, I will say, in the middle of this episode

763
00:31:16.740 --> 00:31:20.460
where they're in that boarded upset for 20 minutes.

764
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.660
I was like, okay, this is where we're saving the money.

765
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.759
You suggest I exaggerate on these things.

766
00:31:26.819 --> 00:31:27.299
I know.

767
00:31:27.299 --> 00:31:31.079
It's for a while for a while. extended dialogue scenes, but that's

768
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:31.859
where they're saving their money.

769
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.980
So they can impact with all of this stuff.

770
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:35.880
Yeah, yeah.

771
00:31:35.940 --> 00:31:36.420
It looks great.

772
00:31:36.539 --> 00:31:39.660
I mean, when the ball, the Gordons do show up, fucking you.

773
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:41.759
There's a puppet that's unbelievably gray.

774
00:31:41.819 --> 00:31:42.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

775
00:31:42.900 --> 00:31:46.200
More puppets, I think, absolutely more puppet aliens.

776
00:31:46.259 --> 00:31:49.500
He pops up, right, running the camera and scream.

777
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:54.779
The audience is so funny I love how panicky Pike is and how into

778
00:31:54.779 --> 00:31:55.920
it, Erica is.

779
00:31:55.980 --> 00:31:56.819
This is so great.

780
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.420
She's that one who's always at the front of the roller coaster

781
00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:00.839
isn't she?

782
00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:02.519
with her arms and legs out.

783
00:32:02.579 --> 00:32:05.339
But everyone else is kind of unhappy.

784
00:32:05.700 --> 00:32:08.099
Have you seen what they're going for?

785
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.319
I would be kind of...

786
00:32:10.380 --> 00:32:11.880
You're going to be on a plane soon, all right?

787
00:32:11.940 --> 00:32:13.859
If it's doing that, should be unhappy.

788
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:16.500
Cut to Erica smiling.

789
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.359
I mean, Kirk looks like he's about to break out his spare

790
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:21.900
chuddies.

791
00:32:24.059 --> 00:32:25.980
Straight into the shop.

792
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:30.299
Now, we've done this a lot in this trek going down in a shuttle to

793
00:32:30.299 --> 00:32:32.700
a forest and it always looks pony as hell.

794
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:33.779
Did you know that?

795
00:32:33.779 --> 00:32:34.559
They usually do it.

796
00:32:34.619 --> 00:32:35.880
They usually do it through the front screen.

797
00:32:35.940 --> 00:32:36.660
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

798
00:32:36.660 --> 00:32:38.460
You know, you see all the trees coming out.

799
00:32:40.019 --> 00:32:42.779
I mean, that's a cliche where it goes down out of shot and then

800
00:32:42.779 --> 00:32:45.960
pulls straight up like that's, but it looked great.

801
00:32:46.019 --> 00:32:48.480
Yeah, I think you're right, you know, that is why I like this so

802
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:48.660
much.

803
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.720
It's just modern day 90s track, isn't it?

804
00:32:51.779 --> 00:32:52.619
Just done really well.

805
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:54.119
I mean, look at this.

806
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:57.779
The ship flew over that river there and you saw that it's

807
00:32:57.779 --> 00:32:58.740
reflection. water.

808
00:32:58.799 --> 00:32:59.819
It's just very good.

809
00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:01.740
Oh, this is really...

810
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:03.299
So this is the stuff I really love.

811
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.200
It's where the character's feelings break through.

812
00:33:07.259 --> 00:33:09.839
And we've just gotten to a point where they're so good at writing

813
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:13.019
this stuff and the actors are so good at act.

814
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.660
I mean, this would have been interminable this scene on TNG.

815
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.619
In fact, what's really good about this, Spock's not betraying any

816
00:33:19.619 --> 00:33:24.720
emotions, we've already seen, I think, there's a kind, like, but

817
00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.720
Una is visibly sad.

818
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:28.980
She's gulping, you know, right?

819
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:29.940
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

820
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.220
And and Spock is so young, he just seems so young compared to her

821
00:33:35.220 --> 00:33:40.079
you know, like there's a kind of maternal or big sister thing

822
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.000
happening here, which I think is beautiful.

823
00:33:42.059 --> 00:33:44.339
A flick or of emotional on his face.

824
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:49.500
Yeah, he's playing it like, like a Vulcan. but a Vulcan

825
00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:50.940
restraining emotions.

826
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.740
But look at how it shot as well.

827
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.299
He's looking up at her, as if she's an adult and he's a child.

828
00:33:57.299 --> 00:34:00.779
And we're looking at her up at her and looking across all down.

829
00:34:00.779 --> 00:34:02.339
Yes.

830
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:03.000
Yes, he is.

831
00:34:03.059 --> 00:34:04.140
It's beautifully done.

832
00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:06.299
But he's just doing business.

833
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:07.559
Like he's just doing space.

834
00:34:07.619 --> 00:34:08.699
We could do a scan.

835
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:09.480
We could do this.

836
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.440
There is a 58% chance that she could be alive.

837
00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:14.099
Yes.

838
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:15.059
Yeah.

839
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.460
And then, but then we discover that Sick Bay's gone.

840
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.760
I mean, come on. just admitted all this and now you're showing the

841
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.619
ship torn apart on the screen.

842
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:29.820
Oh, and look, both, like, Mitchell and beautiful, beautiful Neota

843
00:34:29.820 --> 00:34:32.460
but, oh, and she puts, oh, that's so heartbreaking.

844
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:33.119
That's really good.

845
00:34:33.900 --> 00:34:35.699
It's the restrained emotion.

846
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.139
Yeah, more than...

847
00:34:37.139 --> 00:34:39.179
Yeah, sucker in stuff.

848
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:40.860
No it's really well done.

849
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.679
And again, just the personal stakes are so well done.

850
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.300
Now this is location, right?

851
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.480
I think, well, that looks like it must be the war.

852
00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:51.239
Because it's nighttime.

853
00:34:51.300 --> 00:34:53.219
So it probably is just shot inside.

854
00:34:53.340 --> 00:34:57.000
I thought, and I'm assuming they've explored this sort of La on

855
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.579
gaunt stuff quite a bit because I thought there would be more of

856
00:34:59.579 --> 00:35:01.500
that in this, more backstory.

857
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:09.179
In fact, next week, she is visibly relaxed because, well, because

858
00:35:09.179 --> 00:35:14.940
she feared would happen just happened and she survived.

859
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:20.219
And even that, you know, the tightly, tightly plaited hair, the

860
00:35:20.219 --> 00:35:24.239
tightly knotted plaited hair starts to relax, and in fact, it's

861
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:27.659
the 1st scene where she's teaching Spock to dance.

862
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:28.860
Okay.

863
00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:31.800
Because she's a dancer as well, just like Gatesy.

864
00:35:31.860 --> 00:35:34.139
And there's...

865
00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:35.519
Do you know her?

866
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.940
Friends with Marina.

867
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:45.420
Um, and she, they do some great dancing scenes in series 3 and

868
00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:48.239
she's super chill and relaxed in the next episode.

869
00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:50.760
Remember when I'm off piece now.

870
00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:53.519
You remember when Jacqueline Pierce relaxed between 2 seasons of

871
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:54.300
Blake 7?

872
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.039
I think it's for the same reasons, do you?

873
00:35:56.099 --> 00:35:59.159
No, I just think Christina Chong had her 1st orgasm.

874
00:35:59.219 --> 00:36:01.079
No, I think she's...

875
00:36:01.139 --> 00:36:03.239
No, that's not a thing.

876
00:36:03.300 --> 00:36:04.380
That is located.

877
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.480
No, I think, I mean, I don't know.

878
00:36:06.539 --> 00:36:08.639
They can do fire in the studio, can't they?

879
00:36:08.699 --> 00:36:11.579
But it does look like it's, I think it's a controlled space.

880
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:12.539
I think you're right.

881
00:36:12.539 --> 00:36:13.619
Yeah, it's just the block.

882
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:14.760
It's the lighting.

883
00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:17.460
Like, when they were outside earlier. was so clearly outside.

884
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.440
I know, I think it's the same place.

885
00:36:19.500 --> 00:36:21.840
Oh, there's a, there's a gone.

886
00:36:22.019 --> 00:36:24.300
They're sort of padding along like dogs.

887
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:25.260
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

888
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:26.460
They're babies, isn't they?

889
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:27.300
Yeah, yeah.

890
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:28.559
And they make a comment about that.

891
00:36:28.619 --> 00:36:30.059
Like, why are we being attacked by the guy?

892
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.159
Do you think it's possible to domesticate a gone?

893
00:36:32.219 --> 00:36:33.900
I think they have it as a pet.

894
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:34.440
No.

895
00:36:34.500 --> 00:36:35.099
No?

896
00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:38.579
There's a gone wedding in low decks.

897
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:42.059
So I think relations with the gone normal life.

898
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:43.139
How did that end up?

899
00:36:43.139 --> 00:36:44.699
All the guests.

900
00:36:44.699 --> 00:36:46.739
They just go through a gone wedding at some point.

901
00:36:47.820 --> 00:36:50.099
They spread their eggs.

902
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:51.420
Oh, it's wonderful.

903
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:52.739
No.

904
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:53.519
Oh, God.

905
00:36:53.579 --> 00:36:54.900
People, you listen to me.

906
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:56.460
Do not get captured by a gore.

907
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:00.840
You're going to end up in a horrible pupil sack and eaten away and

908
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:02.699
turned into sludgy human food.

909
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:03.300
Yeah, yeah.

910
00:37:03.300 --> 00:37:05.579
Or you have legs, eggs laid.

911
00:37:05.699 --> 00:37:08.519
That's what I love about this. is that they dare to be a bit

912
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:09.179
visceral.

913
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:09.840
Yeah, yeah.

914
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.880
And Trek just isn't that usually.

915
00:37:11.940 --> 00:37:17.219
I mean, you can see, you can see that the Borg with all of those

916
00:37:17.219 --> 00:37:19.019
tubes and things.

917
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:20.039
Do you know what I mean?

918
00:37:20.099 --> 00:37:22.800
Try and are trying to do that.

919
00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:25.440
They're a little bit inspired by alien.

920
00:37:25.500 --> 00:37:26.880
Absolutely not correct.

921
00:37:26.940 --> 00:37:29.400
I think the scariest thing you ever see with the Borg is that

922
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:30.420
child in the drawer.

923
00:37:30.539 --> 00:37:31.260
The baby.

924
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:32.280
Yeah, that's horrible.

925
00:37:32.940 --> 00:37:36.480
But, you know, like you said, there's blood everywhere.

926
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:41.460
And it's, yeah, gloopy and horrible and acidic. you know what I

927
00:37:41.460 --> 00:37:41.639
mean?

928
00:37:41.699 --> 00:37:42.539
It's nasty.

929
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.900
So we get we get a fair bit of gone action here, but they don't

930
00:37:45.900 --> 00:37:46.559
see...

931
00:37:46.619 --> 00:37:48.840
Oh my god, that was a puppet.

932
00:37:48.900 --> 00:37:50.579
There's a puppet straight in front of them.

933
00:37:50.699 --> 00:37:52.019
Oh, and they're fighting each other.

934
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.699
That's right. eating each other.

935
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:57.179
Yes, you know what I would have liked is, oh, oh, we'll come back

936
00:37:57.179 --> 00:37:57.420
to this.

937
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:01.380
I would have liked them to be sort of like, you know, battering at

938
00:38:01.380 --> 00:38:04.559
that door and trying to break their way in. and occasionally you

939
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:07.800
see the arms scrubbing about and just a bit of that. and I kept

940
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.800
thinking, when's this going to get really sort of panicky?

941
00:38:10.860 --> 00:38:11.400
It does.

942
00:38:11.460 --> 00:38:16.199
I don't think you want to make it easy for them when the go notice

943
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:16.559
them.

944
00:38:16.619 --> 00:38:19.019
You don't want to make it easy for them to defend them.

945
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:19.739
That's true.

946
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.260
Yeah, you know, they have to be hiding from the gone otherwise.

947
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:26.400
It just meant I kept waiting for to feel anxious.

948
00:38:26.460 --> 00:38:29.340
Well, we get a little bit of gone action at this point in the

949
00:38:29.340 --> 00:38:32.280
episode, but then we don't get it 1st bit.

950
00:38:32.340 --> 00:38:34.019
She goes, don't sugarcoat it.

951
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:35.039
I love a crazy fair.

952
00:38:35.099 --> 00:38:37.320
Just say it how it is. right?

953
00:38:37.380 --> 00:38:40.380
Jesus, wonderful, that character.

954
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:42.300
Does she get an episode of her own?

955
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:43.380
No.

956
00:38:43.380 --> 00:38:44.400
Well, she should.

957
00:38:44.460 --> 00:38:44.880
She should.

958
00:38:44.940 --> 00:38:46.320
Her and Scotty.

959
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:47.400
Give him an episode.

960
00:38:47.460 --> 00:38:50.219
Send them down on a planet and just apple 2 of a minute.

961
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:54.000
But she is in it quite a lot, and there's a hilarious gag about

962
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.579
her absence from an episode, which we'll talk about later.

963
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.820
You know, you've been staying in my home now for about a week now

964
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.760
sort of not too dissimilar to this room, is it?

965
00:39:02.820 --> 00:39:04.559
Sort of viscera dripping about the place.

966
00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:06.480
It'd be a cleaner.

967
00:39:06.539 --> 00:39:08.519
No, not mine.

968
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:10.199
Blood splash.

969
00:39:10.260 --> 00:39:12.059
Actually, there is blood on the wall downstairs.

970
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:13.380
I'll show you later.

971
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:14.340
Slow dose.

972
00:39:14.460 --> 00:39:16.559
Anyway, sorry, sorry.

973
00:39:16.619 --> 00:39:18.480
We're in the barbershop, aren't we?

974
00:39:18.539 --> 00:39:19.199
Is that where we are?

975
00:39:19.260 --> 00:39:21.900
Oh, well, that little boy was so happy.

976
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.039
Yeah, yeah, with his haircut.

977
00:39:23.099 --> 00:39:23.760
Shocking.

978
00:39:23.820 --> 00:39:24.239
Yeah.

979
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.760
Oh, no, does that mean he was talking about?

980
00:39:26.820 --> 00:39:27.539
No, no, no, no.

981
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:29.460
Yes, they all, he went out, he finished.

982
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:30.539
No, you don't know.

983
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.300
He left. but we don't know who's been killed.

984
00:39:33.539 --> 00:39:37.199
I like to think all the children have been killed on the planet.

985
00:39:37.260 --> 00:39:39.659
No, no, that would get a name for myself, you know.

986
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:43.199
So there's only, I think, you know, we don't dwell on it, but

987
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.960
there are only a few 100 colonists that are beamed up.

988
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:47.519
Of how many?

989
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:48.840
5000?

990
00:39:48.900 --> 00:39:50.820
Yeah, and the rest have all been...

991
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:52.860
Well, they don't explicitly say it or dwell on it.

992
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.420
When they you say beamed up, though.

993
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:55.800
You mean beamed up and put in no sacks.

994
00:39:55.860 --> 00:39:56.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

995
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:58.619
So it's not a happy ending by people there.

996
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:01.079
I mean, there's one man, it's a whole face.

997
00:40:01.139 --> 00:40:02.400
Yeah, yeah, some of them are killed too.

998
00:40:02.460 --> 00:40:04.920
So that, there's the viscera.

999
00:40:04.980 --> 00:40:05.579
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1000
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:07.860
It's like there's blood dripping from the ceiling.

1001
00:40:08.099 --> 00:40:10.980
And that's...

1002
00:40:10.980 --> 00:40:11.940
A lot of blood.

1003
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:13.860
Do you know, that's not a lot of this, right?

1004
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:15.539
I don't think that's an adult, you know?

1005
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:16.920
No, I don't know.

1006
00:40:16.980 --> 00:40:17.940
I don't know what that is.

1007
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:19.619
It's only because you're a teacher.

1008
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:20.400
I'll do it.

1009
00:40:20.460 --> 00:40:20.760
All right.

1010
00:40:20.820 --> 00:40:24.599
So we are about to meet Scotty.

1011
00:40:24.659 --> 00:40:28.679
So they've detected a signal that Scotty has set to trap the

1012
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:29.579
Gorn.

1013
00:40:29.579 --> 00:40:35.219
They've detected it as a group of people and so they're going to

1014
00:40:35.219 --> 00:40:38.460
try and find them and then they meet Scotty.

1015
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.559
And so Scotty, like, I don't know what sort of backstory there was

1016
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.440
for Scotty, but here they're establishing the idea that he was on

1017
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:50.519
a ship called the Stardiver, and he's the only survivor of that.

1018
00:40:50.579 --> 00:40:51.539
The only...

1019
00:40:51.539 --> 00:40:53.820
Is he's in season one, isn't he, Scossi?

1020
00:40:53.940 --> 00:40:55.199
In the 1st episode?

1021
00:40:55.260 --> 00:40:55.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1022
00:40:55.860 --> 00:40:56.159
Okay.

1023
00:40:56.219 --> 00:40:58.559
So you probably didn't have much of a backstory.

1024
00:40:58.619 --> 00:40:59.280
No, no.

1025
00:40:59.340 --> 00:41:02.519
It just went around murdering women on that planet. that's right.

1026
00:41:02.579 --> 00:41:03.239
That's all he did.

1027
00:41:03.300 --> 00:41:05.460
Oh, here he is.

1028
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.460
Just like the way he just pops his head out and goes, hello?

1029
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:10.260
And I really like him.

1030
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.179
So he's a bit of a dork.

1031
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.900
And he's clearly a sort of, like, they really lean into the

1032
00:41:15.900 --> 00:41:19.619
engineering genius thing and the ability to improvise and staff.

1033
00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:21.659
He's also...

1034
00:41:21.659 --> 00:41:24.179
Oddly sexy.

1035
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:28.079
I can't, it's not just the accent, which is gorgeous, right?

1036
00:41:28.139 --> 00:41:29.460
But he's he's not heavy.

1037
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:33.659
But he's got a little bit of, he's a little bit babyfaced and

1038
00:41:33.659 --> 00:41:35.219
stuff, which is kind of huge.

1039
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:36.900
It's perfect. you know what?

1040
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.960
I always thought that Peg did a good Scotty in those movies.

1041
00:41:40.019 --> 00:41:40.980
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1042
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:41.820
This is better.

1043
00:41:42.539 --> 00:41:44.639
Because this is an actual Scots movie.

1044
00:41:44.699 --> 00:41:47.820
And you just can't fake an actual Scotsman.

1045
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:52.619
And the, the, he gets to speak more Scottish, like, because

1046
00:41:52.619 --> 00:41:54.599
because Scotty has such a terrible accent.

1047
00:41:54.659 --> 00:42:00.000
So Jimmy Dewan, master of dialect, Jimmy Dewan, does such a

1048
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.940
terrible job with Scotty's accent to the point where they make fun

1049
00:42:02.940 --> 00:42:04.559
of it in series one of Picard.

1050
00:42:04.619 --> 00:42:10.139
Remember the emergency engineering hologram on Las Arena, had a

1051
00:42:10.139 --> 00:42:13.440
shitty fake Scottish accent just as a child. many accents.

1052
00:42:13.500 --> 00:42:14.820
Oh man.

1053
00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:18.780
I mean, that is clearly a man that has been brought up on haggis

1054
00:42:18.780 --> 00:42:21.059
Glenn Fiddig and Nips.

1055
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.500
You know what, nips are?

1056
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:23.940
Oh, they're parsnips.

1057
00:42:24.059 --> 00:42:25.139
Parsnips, yeah.

1058
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:26.940
Yeah, nips and tatties.

1059
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:27.719
Okay.

1060
00:42:27.780 --> 00:42:31.739
But he gets to speak properly Scottish, which is really cool, and

1061
00:42:31.739 --> 00:42:34.440
there was even one word later in the dialogue, but I have no idea

1062
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:35.099
what it is.

1063
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.460
But he needs to be instantly likeable.

1064
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:42.000
Join this crew because it's such a likeable crew and they

1065
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:43.260
absolutely get it right.

1066
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.179
So Martin will end up.

1067
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.280
So his name's Martin Quinn I think.

1068
00:42:47.340 --> 00:42:51.719
He goes with an army of space lizards coming after me.

1069
00:42:51.780 --> 00:42:53.400
I can be quite creative.

1070
00:42:53.460 --> 00:42:55.619
We'll discover that next episode.

1071
00:42:57.300 --> 00:42:59.039
They're coming.

1072
00:42:59.099 --> 00:42:59.639
They're coming.

1073
00:42:59.940 --> 00:43:02.099
We're all gonna die.

1074
00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:07.199
Do you know, that might have been a way of getting my schedule

1075
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:08.340
insulted, you know?

1076
00:43:08.940 --> 00:43:11.880
Put her guns on my head, so I'm going, okay.

1077
00:43:11.940 --> 00:43:18.780
I'll do the calendar So now we're in the we're in the diner where

1078
00:43:18.780 --> 00:43:20.280
we are going to spend quite a bit of time.

1079
00:43:20.340 --> 00:43:22.559
There is, yeah, okay, maybe not 20 minutes.

1080
00:43:22.619 --> 00:43:23.820
There's at least 10 minutes here.

1081
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.659
Now, we are 27 minutes in.

1082
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:29.340
We're halfway through the episode.

1083
00:43:29.460 --> 00:43:32.460
But we haven't actually had a single bit of action yet.

1084
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:33.360
No.

1085
00:43:33.420 --> 00:43:35.940
And it doesn't hit until about...

1086
00:43:36.059 --> 00:43:38.219
Well, we had if we did fire.

1087
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.440
We did kilogorn youngling and stuff.

1088
00:43:40.500 --> 00:43:43.079
But we are still investigating and setting up the situation.

1089
00:43:43.860 --> 00:43:48.420
And even in best of both worlds, there's the whole sequence where

1090
00:43:48.420 --> 00:43:51.719
they go to the Borg ship and they all activate and come after them

1091
00:43:51.780 --> 00:43:52.800
halfway through the episode.

1092
00:43:52.860 --> 00:43:56.099
So there is a bit of there's a bit of Borg action.

1093
00:43:58.079 --> 00:43:59.579
Yeah, I always think...

1094
00:43:59.579 --> 00:44:02.099
No, but I always think those scenes where they wander on the Borg

1095
00:44:02.099 --> 00:44:06.059
ship and they're unnoticed that that's cheating and kind of boring

1096
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:07.079
you know what I mean?

1097
00:44:07.139 --> 00:44:10.380
Wow, I'm sort of waiting for them to wake up.

1098
00:44:10.380 --> 00:44:13.800
But they don't, they can't do this, the quick jumps and the scares

1099
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:14.280
and things.

1100
00:44:14.340 --> 00:44:17.639
That shot there where that we start behind the counter and the

1101
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.840
camera goes up to see them in their booth and below the counter is

1102
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:23.940
just handprints and stuff coming in blood.

1103
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.780
No, they are doing a good visual representation that there is

1104
00:44:27.780 --> 00:44:28.199
danger.

1105
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.119
I just want to see some danger.

1106
00:44:30.179 --> 00:44:31.079
Yeah, yeah.

1107
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.559
And interestingly, this reminds me so much of the Buffy episode

1108
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:35.280
spiral.

1109
00:44:35.340 --> 00:44:36.900
Do you remember where they're inside that shape?

1110
00:44:36.900 --> 00:44:38.159
And it's all boarded up.

1111
00:44:38.219 --> 00:44:42.780
But in that, I don't know if you remember, the monks of whatever

1112
00:44:42.780 --> 00:44:43.440
they record.

1113
00:44:43.500 --> 00:44:44.340
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1114
00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:47.460
They're like battering them all the time. and they're getting

1115
00:44:47.460 --> 00:44:49.920
visibly claustrophobic inside.

1116
00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.860
But I, like I said, I don't think you can have...

1117
00:44:52.980 --> 00:44:56.940
I think that they just need to be undetectable by the by the gone

1118
00:44:56.940 --> 00:45:01.739
rather than fighting them off here because, um, you know, that

1119
00:45:01.739 --> 00:45:03.420
diminishes them as a threat.

1120
00:45:03.539 --> 00:45:07.440
So you see the morning shelter in place signs that are up there

1121
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.260
that must have just been activated throughout the colony when they

1122
00:45:10.260 --> 00:45:12.300
when the, when the thing happened.

1123
00:45:12.420 --> 00:45:13.980
So here.

1124
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.039
Why don't they have security things on these colony planets?

1125
00:45:17.099 --> 00:45:19.440
Why don't they have shields and things like that?

1126
00:45:19.500 --> 00:45:21.239
Yeah, I don't know.

1127
00:45:21.300 --> 00:45:23.280
Of course, a lot of people, 5000 people.

1128
00:45:23.340 --> 00:45:26.760
Yeah, I know, but like, I don't know, why don't we have shields?

1129
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:32.039
Oh, I don't have gourbs coming over my town, tearing me apart.

1130
00:45:32.099 --> 00:45:33.599
They didn't think the ones are coming.

1131
00:45:33.659 --> 00:45:37.320
It's funny how we can find excuses, you know, when it's strange

1132
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:37.920
new worlds.

1133
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:40.559
Oh, it's Star Trek, we have to.

1134
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:41.159
Yeah.

1135
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:45.179
Frequent, always.

1136
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:47.699
Yeah.

1137
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.400
So he's sort of setting up some of the stuff for the 2nd episode.

1138
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.579
Yeah, so we were setting up, we set up the stuff about the coronal

1139
00:45:53.579 --> 00:45:55.980
mass ejection, the thing about the star thing, which is the thing

1140
00:45:55.980 --> 00:45:57.179
that solves the problem.

1141
00:45:57.239 --> 00:45:58.920
We set that up and start talking about that here.

1142
00:45:58.980 --> 00:46:02.340
This was the closest planet I could set down on.

1143
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:03.719
Well, that's very unfortunate.

1144
00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:05.099
Well, it was covered in corn.

1145
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.980
No, but remember they were attacked by the Gorn who were on their

1146
00:46:07.980 --> 00:46:09.300
way to this planet.

1147
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.360
And so he ends up going to the place where they end up and he

1148
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.000
actually says, you know, like he actually says that.

1149
00:46:15.059 --> 00:46:16.860
So that does, you know, that makes sense.

1150
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.559
They encounter the Gorn while they're on their way to Panassa

1151
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:19.980
Speed.

1152
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:21.239
Yeah, 3 words there.

1153
00:46:21.300 --> 00:46:23.519
I think it summed up Scotty quite well.

1154
00:46:23.579 --> 00:46:24.659
I cannibalise.

1155
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:27.059
He does that quite a lot, doesn't he?

1156
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.539
Yeah, no, I think they set the character up really well.

1157
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:31.800
I'm really delighted.

1158
00:46:31.860 --> 00:46:32.699
I don't know who else.

1159
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.039
Like, will we ever see, um...

1160
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:36.119
I was super...

1161
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.699
Please, this scene was in it with the doctor.

1162
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.360
Otherwise, he literally does nothing in this episode.

1163
00:46:42.420 --> 00:46:46.019
And it happens quite a bit and I know he gets his own episodes, but

1164
00:46:46.019 --> 00:46:49.500
I would like to see a bit more of him. such a great actor.

1165
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:50.519
He's really good.

1166
00:46:50.579 --> 00:46:52.079
I think he's just a lovely voice.

1167
00:46:52.139 --> 00:46:59.820
I think this scene is great too, because Mbenga loves Christine as

1168
00:46:59.820 --> 00:47:07.739
a colleague, and Erica is her friend, and like this manages not to

1169
00:47:07.739 --> 00:47:10.619
get mawkish, but look at them both.

1170
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:12.840
Oh, yeah.

1171
00:47:12.900 --> 00:47:17.940
And of course, Christine and Moveanga had passed together in the

1172
00:47:17.940 --> 00:47:18.179
war.

1173
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:19.440
We've seen that a couple of times.

1174
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:21.960
See, I do, I do love this.

1175
00:47:22.019 --> 00:47:23.519
I love all the character scenes in this.

1176
00:47:23.579 --> 00:47:25.019
They're just so good at it.

1177
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:28.559
But again, I was watching them sort of laughing and smiling and

1178
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.000
I'm like, no, no, this should be tense.

1179
00:47:30.059 --> 00:47:31.800
Why isn't this tense?

1180
00:47:31.860 --> 00:47:34.920
Well, because they think they did that in series one, episode nine

1181
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.320
you know, they'll never top that.

1182
00:47:37.380 --> 00:47:38.219
Jesus Christ.

1183
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:39.900
So they're doing something different here.

1184
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.239
The thing with people bursting apart.

1185
00:47:42.300 --> 00:47:43.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1186
00:47:43.739 --> 00:47:44.400
Just the best.

1187
00:47:44.460 --> 00:47:46.199
Ah, dear.

1188
00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:49.260
Oh, look how slowly the camera's going around the table.

1189
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:50.760
This is how you do it, Discovery.

1190
00:47:50.820 --> 00:47:53.099
How are you complain about the camera moving at all?

1191
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:54.239
No, no, no.

1192
00:47:54.300 --> 00:47:56.099
I don't mind it moving as long as it's stately.

1193
00:47:56.219 --> 00:47:58.679
Yeah, you know, when it sort of zoom in.

1194
00:47:58.739 --> 00:48:01.019
Remember that enterprise episode where it was zooming around the

1195
00:48:01.019 --> 00:48:04.260
table. for no reason. because that was a really boring scene.

1196
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.079
They were trying to...

1197
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:08.940
She's got, what's her name?

1198
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:11.400
Carol Kane, she's got the best look.

1199
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:12.960
I love her crazy hair.

1200
00:48:13.019 --> 00:48:17.519
I think too, having someone, like she's 5000 years old, that

1201
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:20.639
character we discover sometime during the series, we know that

1202
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:21.239
she's very old.

1203
00:48:24.300 --> 00:48:27.900
And so having her be a crazy old lady, which is basically also

1204
00:48:27.900 --> 00:48:32.400
what she plays in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, is actually pretty

1205
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:32.699
great.

1206
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:34.380
Clearly her niche.

1207
00:48:34.380 --> 00:48:35.460
She's very good at it.

1208
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.380
And she's really, really good in there.

1209
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.079
She's got a really nice scene voice as well.

1210
00:48:40.139 --> 00:48:44.579
And weirdly, they barely give her a line in that musical unless

1211
00:48:44.579 --> 00:48:45.239
she was dubbed.

1212
00:48:45.420 --> 00:48:48.239
I don't think she was dubbed. think that was her.

1213
00:48:48.300 --> 00:48:51.780
But she sings some of the best lines in status report.

1214
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:53.340
Yeah, she's really good.

1215
00:48:53.460 --> 00:48:55.380
Why are we singing?

1216
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:57.179
But look, they're excited.

1217
00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:59.639
Look, they're excited about coming up with a plan as well.

1218
00:48:59.699 --> 00:49:02.820
Like, I think it would be miserable if they were all constantly

1219
00:49:02.820 --> 00:49:04.619
downcast and they're not doing that.

1220
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:06.480
So this has been geeking out.

1221
00:49:06.539 --> 00:49:07.440
I get that.

1222
00:49:07.500 --> 00:49:11.219
But that, you know, we've gone from them smiling on the planet to

1223
00:49:11.219 --> 00:49:11.940
them geeking out here.

1224
00:49:11.940 --> 00:49:13.320
Where's the danger?

1225
00:49:13.380 --> 00:49:14.940
Look how pretty Ahura is.

1226
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:16.079
Like, she's super into it.

1227
00:49:16.139 --> 00:49:18.719
So Spock is going to rescue.

1228
00:49:18.780 --> 00:49:20.699
So that's right.

1229
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:27.659
So the plan is to affix rockets to the Cayuga and then drive it

1230
00:49:27.659 --> 00:49:30.599
into the into the Gorns thing.

1231
00:49:30.659 --> 00:49:36.119
And of course, down on the planet, Chris and Maria are also trying

1232
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:38.340
to destroy that corn beacon thing as well.

1233
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.780
But because we're heading towards the end of part one.

1234
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:44.639
It's all gonna go horribly wrong.

1235
00:49:44.699 --> 00:49:48.480
Well, they do actually manage to do it, but then the gorn turn up

1236
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:48.960
in force.

1237
00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:52.199
I don't know how they achieved the impossible of even peck, but

1238
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:56.159
somehow he looks so hot with those ears. eyebrows and that

1239
00:49:56.159 --> 00:49:57.119
ridiculous haircut.

1240
00:49:57.179 --> 00:49:58.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1241
00:49:58.260 --> 00:49:59.880
I don't think that's impossible.

1242
00:49:59.940 --> 00:50:00.840
Impeccably.

1243
00:50:00.900 --> 00:50:02.460
Yeah, he's really good, isn't it?

1244
00:50:03.719 --> 00:50:04.199
Yeah, yeah.

1245
00:50:04.260 --> 00:50:05.099
That's a bat joke.

1246
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.099
I didn't even notice.

1247
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.519
Oh, did that look?

1248
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:12.780
Everyone's a fucking sleep.

1249
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:13.739
Everyone asleep.

1250
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.539
For God's sake, sleep at some point.

1251
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.579
We are 33 minutes in.

1252
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.579
And literally no one has been in danger yet.

1253
00:50:20.699 --> 00:50:21.179
Come on.

1254
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.059
Well, they were firing at gone in the street.

1255
00:50:24.059 --> 00:50:28.199
They were walking past like puppies. was hardly any great danger

1256
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:28.619
there.

1257
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:36.539
So now we're going now we're going to sneak off with Scotty to go

1258
00:50:36.539 --> 00:50:42.000
to his shuttle, which crashed in the cold open in order to get his

1259
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:43.139
gone transponder.

1260
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:44.460
Do they know he's going?

1261
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.860
She gets woken up and the 2 of them decide to go together, which I

1262
00:50:49.860 --> 00:50:50.699
actually really like.

1263
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.579
Like she kind of gives him shit for saying, I'm just going to go

1264
00:50:53.579 --> 00:50:54.420
and rescue you all.

1265
00:50:54.420 --> 00:50:56.159
And she says, well, I'm going to.

1266
00:50:56.219 --> 00:50:59.940
She's like the Petty Johnson Gerald, the female in the

1267
00:50:59.940 --> 00:51:01.980
relationship that ain't taking nervous shit.

1268
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:02.519
That's right.

1269
00:51:02.579 --> 00:51:05.219
And I'm not gonna, you're not doing this gallant thing where you

1270
00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:06.300
go off and say this.

1271
00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:07.320
You're not being the man.

1272
00:51:07.380 --> 00:51:08.460
Here I'm coming with you.

1273
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1274
00:51:11.099 --> 00:51:13.980
And he looked...

1275
00:51:13.980 --> 00:51:17.039
She smiles at him and raises her eyebrows briefly and stuff.

1276
00:51:17.099 --> 00:51:19.920
Like, there's real warp and affection and there's Scotty, who's

1277
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:20.280
over there.

1278
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.619
Look at him.

1279
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:26.099
Oh, this is a bit awkward. didn't mean to eavesdrop.

1280
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:28.139
It's so cute.

1281
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.219
Do you want to come too?

1282
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.199
It's like, no, I'm coming.

1283
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.780
I'm terrified, but he's gonna do it.

1284
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:38.639
Now, um, that actor.

1285
00:51:38.699 --> 00:51:39.300
What's his name?

1286
00:51:39.420 --> 00:51:40.380
Martin Quinn.

1287
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.860
He can roll his Rs, like a brother.

1288
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.900
But in a way that Jimmy couldn't.

1289
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.800
Well, so terrified becomes, I can't even do it.

1290
00:51:49.860 --> 00:51:51.960
Yeah, I know, I'm not gonna do it, but I can do it.

1291
00:51:52.019 --> 00:51:58.500
But, um, it's, it's, like Jimmy's, Jimmy's like someone who has

1292
00:51:58.500 --> 00:52:02.820
heard a Scottish accent described to him over the farm. rather

1293
00:52:02.820 --> 00:52:03.599
than...

1294
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:09.179
It's not me doing well. either But, um, look at this.

1295
00:52:09.179 --> 00:52:09.840
It looks great.

1296
00:52:09.900 --> 00:52:10.860
Hang on. wait.

1297
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:12.539
So the ship sort of spins around now.

1298
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:17.519
We go round the destroyed saucer and then we get to see inside the

1299
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:17.820
deck.

1300
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:18.840
Fucking out.

1301
00:52:18.900 --> 00:52:19.860
Look at all the consoles.

1302
00:52:19.860 --> 00:52:21.000
Yeah, yeah.

1303
00:52:21.059 --> 00:52:24.539
And now we're actually, which is just obviously a redressed.

1304
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:25.559
Any rocks?

1305
00:52:25.860 --> 00:52:28.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah. sort of pipes.

1306
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:29.880
Oh, there's some sort of mud.

1307
00:52:29.940 --> 00:52:32.280
Yeah, sprayed around dead people.

1308
00:52:32.340 --> 00:52:34.079
I don't have mud on a starship.

1309
00:52:34.139 --> 00:52:38.400
No, the rocks are actually things and there's a reason for them.

1310
00:52:38.460 --> 00:52:41.820
They're explained in the lower decks episode, why the firecats are

1311
00:52:41.820 --> 00:52:42.239
full of rocks.

1312
00:52:42.300 --> 00:52:46.139
I imagine that the gore on fire, sort of great rocks. loads of

1313
00:52:46.139 --> 00:52:46.440
mud.

1314
00:52:46.500 --> 00:52:47.880
That's why there's mud everywhere.

1315
00:52:47.940 --> 00:52:48.719
Yeah.

1316
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.239
So we did say there are oxygen.

1317
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:53.639
How many people survived on the ship?

1318
00:52:53.699 --> 00:52:54.780
They're just her.

1319
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:55.619
Oh, God.

1320
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:57.360
Fuck's sake.

1321
00:52:57.420 --> 00:52:58.260
Really?

1322
00:52:58.320 --> 00:52:59.639
She's in the opening cred?

1323
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:03.659
Yeah, but a handful of people.

1324
00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:07.139
There might be other people alive, but then they crash the cayoga

1325
00:53:07.139 --> 00:53:08.400
into the...

1326
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.179
There's someone waving a hanky.

1327
00:53:15.300 --> 00:53:19.679
Let's just say, it was on the enterprise when Troy took it down as

1328
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:19.920
well.

1329
00:53:19.980 --> 00:53:21.239
And this is the final time.

1330
00:53:21.300 --> 00:53:22.739
Oh bless.

1331
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:24.119
Yeah.

1332
00:53:24.179 --> 00:53:27.000
That would be very funny if they told a story about an episode

1333
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.780
that's on every crash spaceship that keeps surviving.

1334
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.320
So she's plugging in some things.

1335
00:53:34.380 --> 00:53:38.460
So this is the point where we start to get some gone.

1336
00:53:38.579 --> 00:53:44.280
Now, this and when he comes along with wonderful, it sort of flies

1337
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:48.059
through on his spaceship, a space suit, sorry, a bit like, I kept

1338
00:53:48.059 --> 00:53:52.440
saying, it's a bit like a layer in the last Jedi. gracefully going

1339
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:53.760
through space towards the ship.

1340
00:53:53.820 --> 00:53:58.079
Well, or Michael in the 1st episode of Discovery.

1341
00:53:58.139 --> 00:54:01.019
Do you imagine a few people have hissed?

1342
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:03.719
I mean, mentioning that in the last year, I probably hope so.

1343
00:54:03.780 --> 00:54:04.199
I hope so.

1344
00:54:04.260 --> 00:54:04.980
That's a great moment.

1345
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:05.579
W wonderful.

1346
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:08.820
Yeah, so there she is.

1347
00:54:08.940 --> 00:54:11.039
Looking through the window, is it?

1348
00:54:11.099 --> 00:54:13.019
I mean, you wouldn't do that in 90s, would you?

1349
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:14.219
you couldn't even manage it.

1350
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:15.059
No, no, wait.

1351
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:18.300
Do you not remember when Aaron went to the airlock and saw that

1352
00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:20.219
shuttle in Npulk Nore blowing up?

1353
00:54:20.219 --> 00:54:21.659
It was quite impressive, actually.

1354
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:23.880
But I mean, you know, there's dirt on the window and stuff like

1355
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:26.579
that and the camera's moving, you know, like all sorts of things

1356
00:54:26.579 --> 00:54:27.420
that you couldn't do.

1357
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.599
There's her reflection and we actually pull focus away from the

1358
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:31.199
end of right.

1359
00:54:31.260 --> 00:54:32.219
Oh, this is hilarious.

1360
00:54:32.219 --> 00:54:33.000
The torch runs out.

1361
00:54:33.059 --> 00:54:37.920
She's doing SOS with the torch and it only lasts like 2 glass. yeah

1362
00:54:38.099 --> 00:54:38.699
But look.

1363
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:41.940
Don't you just want to sing?

1364
00:54:41.940 --> 00:54:42.599
Flash.

1365
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.500
He saved every one of us.

1366
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:47.880
And he's brought a suitcase with him.

1367
00:54:47.940 --> 00:54:50.940
Fuck his arse even looks good in that space, doesn't it?

1368
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:51.719
It looks magnificent.

1369
00:54:51.780 --> 00:54:53.820
I hadn't noticed that I'm riding up behind him.

1370
00:54:55.619 --> 00:54:58.019
Do you want to go alongside?

1371
00:54:58.019 --> 00:54:59.400
No, I'm fine back here.

1372
00:54:59.460 --> 00:54:59.820
Thank you.

1373
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:02.820
It's on the whole of the ship.

1374
00:55:03.179 --> 00:55:04.619
I mean, we just do this as a matter...

1375
00:55:04.619 --> 00:55:05.340
I know, that's right.

1376
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:06.659
Back in the day, it was a whole episode.

1377
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:07.800
Do you remember the Enterprise one?

1378
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:08.760
Oh, yeah.

1379
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:12.480
Seven years of Star Trek the Next Generation and no one wears a

1380
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:13.019
spacesuit.

1381
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:14.400
It's amazing.

1382
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:17.519
Although, it's nice when Amanda and Q pop on sort of some, so that

1383
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:18.659
time does happen.

1384
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:20.400
It's a terrible special effect, though.

1385
00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:22.079
I know, but what's he doing?

1386
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:27.300
So he's putting things so that they can control their rockets.

1387
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:28.320
There you go.

1388
00:55:28.380 --> 00:55:30.840
He's putting your technical descriptions.

1389
00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:31.860
She's plugging things in.

1390
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:33.300
He's putting things...

1391
00:55:33.420 --> 00:55:36.539
Yeah, well that's it. why techno babble is not nothing to be

1392
00:55:36.539 --> 00:55:37.500
afraid of.

1393
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:41.159
No, but they don't they don't use things usually.

1394
00:55:41.699 --> 00:55:43.739
Oh, here he goes again.

1395
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.559
He's very graceful Oh, I love it.

1396
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:51.300
It comes gliding upside down.

1397
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:52.860
He's smashing the window.

1398
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:53.280
Look.

1399
00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:54.119
Calling out.

1400
00:55:54.179 --> 00:55:54.840
It's wonderful.

1401
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:55.860
Hello, Spark.

1402
00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.059
I realise things ended on bad terms, but I'm the one survivor

1403
00:56:00.059 --> 00:56:00.239
please.

1404
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:03.300
Remember how hot I am.

1405
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:06.360
She's beautiful.

1406
00:56:06.420 --> 00:56:08.579
Well, is that blood on the wall there?

1407
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:11.280
Well, she's got it all over her top, look.

1408
00:56:11.340 --> 00:56:13.920
Oh, that's, you know, she got smashed against the bulkhead or

1409
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:14.159
whatever.

1410
00:56:14.219 --> 00:56:15.000
Look at this.

1411
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:16.139
Yeah.

1412
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:20.699
The crash, the crash thing, and then the and then the big gone

1413
00:56:20.699 --> 00:56:22.559
thing that they've made.

1414
00:56:22.619 --> 00:56:24.420
They can do people now, right?

1415
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:25.199
CGI.

1416
00:56:25.260 --> 00:56:26.760
Yeah, they're doing so, yeah.

1417
00:56:26.820 --> 00:56:28.440
Long distance shots of vistas.

1418
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:30.900
Yeah, better than they could in Enterprise anyway.

1419
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:32.460
They were people.

1420
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:34.440
That was more, for God's sake.

1421
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:38.639
Oh, I just love how dirty it all is.

1422
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:40.500
It gets even better in episode two.

1423
00:56:40.619 --> 00:56:43.559
It's dirty and mucky as well in episode two.

1424
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:45.000
Okay.

1425
00:56:45.059 --> 00:56:48.179
We're about to almost have some danger in a minute.

1426
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:49.320
Yeah.

1427
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.019
But when it comes, it's amazing.

1428
00:56:52.139 --> 00:56:57.480
So, again, one of the things that this show relies on, and I don't

1429
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:01.559
think it's, look, there's a scene here which is just basically a

1430
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:03.059
scene from...

1431
00:57:03.059 --> 00:57:04.139
Oh, my God.

1432
00:57:04.139 --> 00:57:06.420
So, here it is.

1433
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:07.980
It's great, isn't it?

1434
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:10.679
It looks like the puppet from Spaceballs.

1435
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:13.019
Yeah, but it's all covered in Sworfiga and stuff.

1436
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:14.760
Oh, wonderful.

1437
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:15.780
I love it.

1438
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:17.099
You can buy those.

1439
00:57:17.099 --> 00:57:20.519
Oh, I would, I would absolutely go...

1440
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:24.719
And just put that in his face and go, And of course, at the same

1441
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:29.820
time in this plot, which is the Christina, we're about to get our

1442
00:57:29.820 --> 00:57:30.659
1st corn as well.

1443
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:34.860
Sorry, this is for those that can't see this, an enormous gaunt

1444
00:57:34.860 --> 00:57:37.980
tail, has just flicked into view as Christine goes along the

1445
00:57:37.980 --> 00:57:38.579
corridors.

1446
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:42.539
It's a tail that is inside some space armour.

1447
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.260
Because the goner wearing...

1448
00:57:46.260 --> 00:57:48.539
They're squeezed into their own little spacesuits with lights.

1449
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:50.039
So the face is all lit.

1450
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:50.880
Look at her.

1451
00:57:50.940 --> 00:57:51.539
It looks great.

1452
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.820
It's all in silhouette here.

1453
00:57:54.179 --> 00:57:54.539
Yeah, yeah.

1454
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:56.519
Oh, he blinks inside the space.

1455
00:57:56.579 --> 00:57:57.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1456
00:57:57.179 --> 00:57:58.679
And bears his teeth and stuff.

1457
00:57:58.739 --> 00:58:00.659
I didn't realise there was anyone still alive.

1458
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:03.719
And again, because she's encountered the gone close up.

1459
00:58:03.780 --> 00:58:05.579
You know, she's properly scared.

1460
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:07.139
She's not getting to speak or anything.

1461
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.960
Do you imagine sort of, you know, I know they eat the ones that

1462
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:10.320
are dead.

1463
00:58:10.380 --> 00:58:12.179
Are they quite genial with each other, look gone?

1464
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:12.840
you imagine?

1465
00:58:12.900 --> 00:58:15.900
No, the youth, the other language, don't they?

1466
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:19.500
Yeah, and we will learn more about the Gorn later this season

1467
00:58:19.500 --> 00:58:21.300
because...

1468
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:25.619
So he's CGI now, the one in the shuttle. yeah, yeah.

1469
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:26.820
We sort of jump between the two.

1470
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.219
We don't really get to... close-up that was CGI.

1471
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:30.719
That's the puppet.

1472
00:58:30.780 --> 00:58:32.099
The alien shot.

1473
00:58:32.219 --> 00:58:35.940
It was the Ripley alien shot from the side, but with Marie.

1474
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:37.199
Yeah, from Alien 3.

1475
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:41.820
But there's shorthand storytelling because we know as the audience

1476
00:58:41.820 --> 00:58:43.559
because we've seen Alien 3.

1477
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:48.719
We know that she's infected now because the reason that the alien

1478
00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:53.099
doesn't attack Ripley in Alien 3 is because she's carrying the...

1479
00:58:53.099 --> 00:58:54.300
A pike's like, no.

1480
00:58:55.139 --> 00:58:56.340
This is not the motor...

1481
00:58:56.340 --> 00:58:57.780
What her eye of the tools?

1482
00:58:57.780 --> 00:59:01.679
not to attack and she's trying to, um, Scott is still looking

1483
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:02.460
awkward like that.

1484
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:02.940
Yeah.

1485
00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:05.579
I'll go over here and fiddle with some things while you have this

1486
00:59:05.579 --> 00:59:05.820
fire.

1487
00:59:05.940 --> 00:59:07.260
I haven't been with a couple.

1488
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:09.960
And I just fiddle about with the wires, please.

1489
00:59:10.019 --> 00:59:11.219
While they have the fight.

1490
00:59:12.059 --> 00:59:15.059
He's got great body language, Scott.

1491
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:15.900
He's really good.

1492
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:17.460
He just does comedy so well.

1493
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.500
I just want him to look awkward in every scene.

1494
00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:22.199
I mean, he doesn't too, when she's putting all those huge

1495
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:23.579
expectations on him.

1496
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:25.860
Why the fuck did you say that?

1497
00:59:27.539 --> 00:59:28.980
Right.

1498
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:31.860
We're 35 minutes in, we are cooking with gas now.

1499
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:33.659
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1500
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:37.800
So Spock is, we're on the bridge, aren't we, of the Cayuga at this

1501
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:38.039
point.

1502
00:59:38.940 --> 00:59:41.039
Look at all these ladies.

1503
00:59:41.099 --> 00:59:43.019
There's not a man inside.

1504
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:44.039
Oh, no.

1505
00:59:44.099 --> 00:59:46.860
Just like the console there. because Spock's not there.

1506
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:49.500
Yeah, I know it's great, isn't it, in the background?

1507
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:51.360
It looks like a snake, doesn't it?

1508
00:59:51.420 --> 00:59:52.260
rearing up behind him.

1509
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:56.219
But they are leaning into the making it look like a xenomorph, you

1510
00:59:56.219 --> 00:59:57.480
know, from alien, aren't they?

1511
00:59:57.539 --> 00:59:58.679
Why wouldn't you?

1512
00:59:58.739 --> 00:59:59.460
Yeah, well that's right.

1513
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:00.119
Come on.

1514
01:00:00.179 --> 01:00:03.480
I mean, think of that terrible mask, fucking TOS.

1515
01:00:04.739 --> 01:00:06.480
Oh my god.

1516
01:00:06.539 --> 01:00:08.099
I just love he's in a space suit.

1517
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:09.840
Yeah, it's so camp.

1518
01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:12.900
Yeah.

1519
01:00:12.900 --> 01:00:14.639
Better than the cocktail dress.

1520
01:00:14.699 --> 01:00:16.500
Oh, maybe not than the cocktail.

1521
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:20.039
And we're all in 0 G. We're doing a fight in 0 now.

1522
01:00:20.099 --> 01:00:22.980
So everyone's sort of dancing around balletically.

1523
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:26.400
We do a trying to pick up the gun before the other person picks up

1524
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:28.380
the gun. use your fucking tail.

1525
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:30.719
For God's sake, you got a massive tail.

1526
01:00:30.780 --> 01:00:31.500
Just whip them.

1527
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:33.719
And it sort of serrated as well.

1528
01:00:33.780 --> 01:00:34.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1529
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:35.340
It looks great.

1530
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:36.840
It's like a bread.

1531
01:00:36.900 --> 01:00:37.440
Oh, okay.

1532
01:00:37.500 --> 01:00:39.780
She's got to try and get the phaser, but it's floating over

1533
01:00:39.780 --> 01:00:39.960
there.

1534
01:00:40.019 --> 01:00:40.860
Yeah.

1535
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:43.019
And meanwhile, the gorn is using its tail.

1536
01:00:43.019 --> 01:00:44.460
It's trying to strangle Ethan.

1537
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:47.460
Right in this script. so excited at this point.

1538
01:00:47.579 --> 01:00:49.139
Will she reach the phaser?

1539
01:00:49.260 --> 01:00:52.619
There we go Yeah, it's like outside the window.

1540
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:54.179
Like she has to...

1541
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:55.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1542
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.659
Actually, you know, I don't think that works, you know.

1543
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.239
If you kick against space, you just keep going.

1544
01:01:00.300 --> 01:01:02.039
You don't stop yourself, can you?

1545
01:01:02.099 --> 01:01:04.019
She's holding onto the railing.

1546
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:04.800
Oh okay.

1547
01:01:04.860 --> 01:01:05.519
All right.

1548
01:01:05.579 --> 01:01:06.360
Yeah.

1549
01:01:06.420 --> 01:01:07.860
No, she shot it.

1550
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:09.900
Now we're going to stab it in the face.

1551
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:10.559
Yes, yes.

1552
01:01:10.619 --> 01:01:11.099
Yes.

1553
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:13.019
Finally, some...

1554
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.820
So he does stab it and then all the air starts coming out.

1555
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:19.019
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1556
01:01:19.019 --> 01:01:20.460
He's got a sort of cracked visor now.

1557
01:01:20.460 --> 01:01:21.599
And she stabbed it.

1558
01:01:21.659 --> 01:01:23.820
He stabbed it in the head as well, like it went into his head.

1559
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:24.960
But also he can't breathe.

1560
01:01:25.019 --> 01:01:27.239
Which is, you know, I hear that as an impairment.

1561
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.599
But I love how they do this because it's still, you're like, it's

1562
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.639
not dead and then we see the moment it dies.

1563
01:01:32.699 --> 01:01:34.500
No, she doesn't need to.

1564
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:35.699
Look, it's about to die.

1565
01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:37.079
There it is.

1566
01:01:37.139 --> 01:01:38.159
And it's limp.

1567
01:01:38.219 --> 01:01:38.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1568
01:01:38.820 --> 01:01:39.420
It's really good.

1569
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.360
But its claws are still just... gently.

1570
01:01:42.420 --> 01:01:43.440
Yeah, here we go.

1571
01:01:43.500 --> 01:01:44.579
Why did the corn run away?

1572
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:45.599
I don't know.

1573
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:46.920
Scott has got a torch in it.

1574
01:01:46.980 --> 01:01:48.239
No, it's not a ball.

1575
01:01:48.300 --> 01:01:50.760
He's not participating in this conversation. the way he's

1576
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:51.000
sitting.

1577
01:01:51.059 --> 01:01:52.380
I'll come and sit on your Scotty.

1578
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:53.159
I'll keep this straight.

1579
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:55.559
Yeah.

1580
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:57.480
Murray's so the actress.

1581
01:01:57.539 --> 01:01:58.019
What's her?

1582
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:01.679
She is called Melanie Scroffinol.

1583
01:02:01.739 --> 01:02:03.179
Melanie Scroffenol?

1584
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:04.139
I think you're fabulous.

1585
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:05.039
Yeah, she's awesome.

1586
01:02:05.099 --> 01:02:05.340
Yeah.

1587
01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:06.420
She's really good.

1588
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:10.500
And you know what I really love as well is how Anson Moun.

1589
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:14.760
He never, ever steps on his female costars in a way that

1590
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.340
inadvertently it does happen in 90s trek.

1591
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:17.940
Yeah, yeah.

1592
01:02:17.940 --> 01:02:21.119
Yeah, well, not with Nanar, obviously, but with some of the female

1593
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:21.900
guest characters.

1594
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:22.619
Okay.

1595
01:02:22.619 --> 01:02:24.420
Well, think of Robert Duncan McNeil.

1596
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:25.739
They're flying out of the theme.

1597
01:02:25.860 --> 01:02:27.840
Talking of Robert Duncan McNeil.

1598
01:02:27.900 --> 01:02:28.920
It's day of honour.

1599
01:02:28.980 --> 01:02:32.940
Two spacesuits in space dancing around together.

1600
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:36.119
And their faces are there that, like, it's clearly them.

1601
01:02:36.179 --> 01:02:36.900
It looks amazing.

1602
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:41.039
Here's to tell you now that day of honour did not look like it.

1603
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.559
It's just a load of black stars. unfortunately.

1604
01:02:43.619 --> 01:02:45.840
But it is this exact shot.

1605
01:02:48.059 --> 01:02:50.579
Well, I think it's allowed, right?

1606
01:02:50.699 --> 01:02:51.659
They've just escaped.

1607
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.019
They still, you know, they still like one another.

1608
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:57.659
Oh no, that ensign's just waking up in the ship.

1609
01:02:57.719 --> 01:02:59.820
Yeah, shut him down.

1610
01:02:59.820 --> 01:03:00.420
Hello?

1611
01:03:00.420 --> 01:03:01.440
Is anyone here?

1612
01:03:03.179 --> 01:03:03.780
That would be me.

1613
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:04.320
I know.

1614
01:03:04.380 --> 01:03:05.880
We get a call back to Hammer.

1615
01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:07.619
Yeah, of course.

1616
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.260
Yeah, he was a wonderful character as well.

1617
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:11.400
I wonder why he left.

1618
01:03:11.460 --> 01:03:15.360
Oh, I think that he was never going to be a...

1619
01:03:15.420 --> 01:03:16.559
Oh, they're just like working with him.

1620
01:03:16.619 --> 01:03:17.340
Do more than one.

1621
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:17.699
Come on.

1622
01:03:17.820 --> 01:03:18.719
No, no, yeah.

1623
01:03:18.780 --> 01:03:21.300
I think he was just going to be in some and then they put him in

1624
01:03:21.300 --> 01:03:24.179
more, but the idea was always to kill him off.

1625
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:26.159
Well, if you're a great deaf, will you?

1626
01:03:26.219 --> 01:03:27.119
And it is a great ass.

1627
01:03:27.179 --> 01:03:28.380
Yeah, yeah.

1628
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:31.320
And that's the 2nd gone episode, remember?

1629
01:03:31.380 --> 01:03:34.019
Because there had been a previous one that season where we don't

1630
01:03:34.019 --> 01:03:35.519
see the gore, they're just in their ship.

1631
01:03:35.579 --> 01:03:37.320
But he manages anthem.

1632
01:03:37.380 --> 01:03:41.699
He manages to be a pike, a great leader, right?

1633
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:43.679
But also really sensitive.

1634
01:03:43.980 --> 01:03:47.639
It's just, it's such a well-gaged performance.

1635
01:03:47.699 --> 01:03:51.300
He never, he controls the room when he needs to, but he never

1636
01:03:51.300 --> 01:03:54.360
steps on what everybody needs to do and he lets them all

1637
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:55.199
contribute.

1638
01:03:55.260 --> 01:03:56.039
Yeah, that's right.

1639
01:03:56.099 --> 01:03:59.219
It's the it's the suggestions and we just go round the bridge and

1640
01:03:59.219 --> 01:04:00.420
people off suggestions.

1641
01:04:00.539 --> 01:04:02.760
You remember Bacula in Enterprise.

1642
01:04:02.820 --> 01:04:03.420
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1643
01:04:03.420 --> 01:04:04.559
Fucking stepping on everyone.

1644
01:04:04.619 --> 01:04:06.780
That's being a pompous prick all the time.

1645
01:04:06.900 --> 01:04:08.099
Like we've learned some lessons.

1646
01:04:08.460 --> 01:04:10.380
Oh, what's happening?

1647
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:13.860
So we are, what's happening?

1648
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.980
Are we beaming, who are we beaming up?

1649
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:19.800
Are we beaming Chris and Marie?

1650
01:04:19.860 --> 01:04:21.059
No, we're beaming Spy.

1651
01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:22.920
Oh, okay, we're Beaming Spock and Christine.

1652
01:04:22.980 --> 01:04:25.019
I keep forgetting her name with the long hair.

1653
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:26.159
Who?

1654
01:04:26.219 --> 01:04:27.840
She just left the room.

1655
01:04:27.900 --> 01:04:28.679
Pelia.

1656
01:04:28.739 --> 01:04:29.340
Hell yeah.

1657
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:31.860
She walks out of a room as awkwardly as my mom.

1658
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:33.000
Did you see her?

1659
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.780
about her is idiosyncratic.

1660
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:38.099
I love her.

1661
01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:40.079
This too.

1662
01:04:40.139 --> 01:04:42.119
It's okay, Spock.

1663
01:04:42.179 --> 01:04:43.679
You don't have to apologise.

1664
01:04:43.739 --> 01:04:45.420
We'll just do this thing.

1665
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:46.380
We'll worry about it later.

1666
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:47.880
Can I have one snog, though?

1667
01:04:47.940 --> 01:04:50.340
No, it's so pressy when they snot together.

1668
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:51.599
She has a fiancé.

1669
01:04:51.659 --> 01:04:55.500
Oh, look, here are the colonists of Veridian 5 being beamed up

1670
01:04:55.500 --> 01:04:56.519
by...

1671
01:04:56.579 --> 01:04:57.960
Look at that big.

1672
01:04:58.019 --> 01:05:00.420
No, we're just beaming up these people into Sick Bay.

1673
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:02.340
Look at Scotty.

1674
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:06.659
Oh, that too, when he just hugs her.

1675
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:09.539
It's so good, isn't it?

1676
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:11.219
Do they save all the colonists at the end?

1677
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:11.880
They do.

1678
01:05:11.940 --> 01:05:14.699
They get beamed out, but a lot of them are dead already.

1679
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:18.059
We don't need those people.

1680
01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:19.920
You know, we need the regulars.

1681
01:05:19.980 --> 01:05:20.760
Yeah, that's true.

1682
01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:22.320
And Patel.

1683
01:05:22.500 --> 01:05:23.820
Bit of a sadist, aren't I?

1684
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.280
I do like a bit of death in Star Trek, though.

1685
01:05:26.340 --> 01:05:26.940
It's quite fun.

1686
01:05:27.300 --> 01:05:31.199
I still want it to be fun. shit when people are being melted, you

1687
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:31.440
know?

1688
01:05:31.500 --> 01:05:33.539
Yeah, I want it to be fun rather than gruelling.

1689
01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.059
What do they do with the melted people?

1690
01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.159
You sort of suck them out with a straw, I suppose.

1691
01:05:38.219 --> 01:05:39.420
Oh, yeah.

1692
01:05:39.420 --> 01:05:41.159
I'll give it.

1693
01:05:41.219 --> 01:05:41.940
Look at Pelia.

1694
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.039
Pellier and Scotty meeting for the 1st time.

1695
01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:48.539
One of my best students who sadly received some of my worst

1696
01:05:48.539 --> 01:05:49.320
grades.

1697
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:55.800
I'll leave you to it. is this supposed to be?

1698
01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:57.840
That's so Scotty.

1699
01:05:57.900 --> 01:05:59.940
A load of coffins and some rope.

1700
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.219
Oh, they're great to get that.

1701
01:06:02.219 --> 01:06:03.360
It gets even better.

1702
01:06:03.420 --> 01:06:04.860
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1703
01:06:05.099 --> 01:06:07.079
Oh, dear.

1704
01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:10.260
A gone destroyer has just arrived, my God.

1705
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:12.300
Look, and they're all coming.

1706
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:13.739
All of the going are coming.

1707
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:14.400
Yes.

1708
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:15.239
This is what we wanted.

1709
01:06:15.300 --> 01:06:15.780
Yep.

1710
01:06:15.780 --> 01:06:16.260
Yep.

1711
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:18.360
Oh, it's that thing too.

1712
01:06:18.420 --> 01:06:19.500
They have a score, they're gone.

1713
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:20.340
Yes.

1714
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:23.760
So in fact, the musical theme for the Gorn all the way through

1715
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:30.059
this 2 parter is a musical quote from this, the, um, the score for

1716
01:06:30.059 --> 01:06:30.719
Arena.

1717
01:06:30.780 --> 01:06:32.639
Do you know how it goes?

1718
01:06:32.699 --> 01:06:33.420
I can't remember.

1719
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:35.940
Yeah, but I definitely recognised it.

1720
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:38.940
So we do get that all the way through, which is becomes the Gorm

1721
01:06:38.940 --> 01:06:40.440
theme, which I think is pretty great.

1722
01:06:40.500 --> 01:06:42.599
As memorable as the doomsday machine.

1723
01:06:42.659 --> 01:06:44.760
It's as memorable as the doomsday machine.

1724
01:06:44.820 --> 01:06:48.539
It's also as memorable as amuck time as well.

1725
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:50.039
I can't remember that one.

1726
01:06:50.099 --> 01:06:54.119
You know, da, da, da, da, da.

1727
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:54.480
Yeah.

1728
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.719
Welcome to the Star Trek music podcast.

1729
01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:03.179
Unfortunately, we have a decade off.

1730
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:05.639
That's right.

1731
01:07:05.699 --> 01:07:07.199
Oh my god.

1732
01:07:07.260 --> 01:07:09.719
The camera went straight through the window.

1733
01:07:09.780 --> 01:07:10.440
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1734
01:07:10.500 --> 01:07:12.059
Awesome stuff.

1735
01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:14.340
Just look how dirty and bruised everybody is.

1736
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:15.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1737
01:07:15.539 --> 01:07:16.739
It's really good, isn't it?

1738
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:17.820
Mattel as well.

1739
01:07:17.940 --> 01:07:19.739
Oh, shitting, how?

1740
01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:21.840
Those eggs are really close.

1741
01:07:21.900 --> 01:07:23.940
How quickly do they eat through somebody?

1742
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.119
So she says that Christina says a day and a half?

1743
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:28.260
Rocks.

1744
01:07:28.260 --> 01:07:29.039
Sorry.

1745
01:07:29.099 --> 01:07:29.820
Yep, there you go.

1746
01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:31.619
Well done.

1747
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:32.880
It's so great.

1748
01:07:32.940 --> 01:07:35.400
Did you see how many rocks were in the corridor then?

1749
01:07:35.460 --> 01:07:36.119
Who was that?

1750
01:07:36.179 --> 01:07:37.079
That's the guy.

1751
01:07:37.139 --> 01:07:39.179
The only guy on the bridge gets to do it.

1752
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:40.920
Do love a slow motion stump.

1753
01:07:40.980 --> 01:07:42.239
There's lots of sparks.

1754
01:07:42.300 --> 01:07:43.139
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1755
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:44.159
It's proper stuff.

1756
01:07:44.219 --> 01:07:44.880
Oh my god.

1757
01:07:44.940 --> 01:07:47.099
Everything's exploding.

1758
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:49.320
This is proper cliffhanger pirates.

1759
01:07:49.380 --> 01:07:50.820
Finally, we're in danger.

1760
01:07:50.940 --> 01:07:55.139
And it's this sort of, I don't know, like, what am I to do?

1761
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:57.360
So this is this is...

1762
01:07:57.360 --> 01:07:59.340
What's the dilemma?

1763
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:03.300
Um, do we, we're being ordered to retreat?

1764
01:08:03.420 --> 01:08:05.340
Oh, do we leave them all today?

1765
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:05.880
What do we do?

1766
01:08:05.940 --> 01:08:08.039
And then he...

1767
01:08:08.099 --> 01:08:09.179
Well, we know he's not gonna do that.

1768
01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:13.800
No, but having him in that moment of crisis and just closing on

1769
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:15.239
his face and then we're done.

1770
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.760
To be continued in 2 years.

1771
01:08:17.819 --> 01:08:18.840
In 2 years.

1772
01:08:18.899 --> 01:08:19.500
Yeah.

1773
01:08:19.500 --> 01:08:20.699
Great.

1774
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:21.659
Don't think we knew that.

1775
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:22.859
That's not what was planned.

1776
01:08:23.699 --> 01:08:24.659
God, that was great.

1777
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:26.640
That last 10 minutes was fucking incredible.

1778
01:08:26.699 --> 01:08:30.060
I mean, I will say, I do think is a problem that it takes that

1779
01:08:30.060 --> 01:08:30.539
long.

1780
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:34.439
I know you want a big impact when the the gorn finally attack.

1781
01:08:34.500 --> 01:08:36.000
Like, when it's 90s trek.

1782
01:08:36.060 --> 01:08:39.119
Yeah, happy for people to just stand around in rooms talking for

1783
01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:40.439
40 minutes.

1784
01:08:40.500 --> 01:08:43.439
Yeah, that's because that's all we do in...

1785
01:08:43.500 --> 01:08:45.359
There's no hope for dynamic action there.

1786
01:08:45.420 --> 01:08:47.279
Whereas they can, though.

1787
01:08:47.340 --> 01:08:49.800
That horror episode they did in series one.

1788
01:08:49.859 --> 01:08:54.060
It's from like 10 minutes in, and it's claustrophobic and it's

1789
01:08:54.060 --> 01:08:58.079
grisly and it's action-packed and people are being dragged down

1790
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:01.199
corridors. and I know you can't do that every time they go on

1791
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:01.560
appear.

1792
01:09:01.619 --> 01:09:06.659
But I do think, what, nearly 40 minutes of waiting to get to the

1793
01:09:06.659 --> 01:09:09.779
real danger that our people are in.

1794
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:11.100
That is kind of a problem.

1795
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:14.520
But when we get there, now it doesn't stop.

1796
01:09:14.579 --> 01:09:18.840
Now it's 50 minutes plus of nonstop action.

1797
01:09:18.899 --> 01:09:21.539
It's that thing which I think is always great, like in a Doctor

1798
01:09:21.539 --> 01:09:24.899
Who cliffhanger or whenever there's a two-parter, when you come

1799
01:09:24.899 --> 01:09:29.880
back, the trouble with best of both worlds is, then we lose all

1800
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:30.479
the attention.

1801
01:09:30.539 --> 01:09:30.960
Yeah.

1802
01:09:31.020 --> 01:09:35.760
The only real tension in two is it's that wonderful scene between

1803
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:37.859
Guynan and Riker.

1804
01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:40.079
Yeah, yeah, where she's going, well, I forward.

1805
01:09:40.140 --> 01:09:42.000
I'm willing to let him go.

1806
01:09:42.060 --> 01:09:42.359
Yeah.

1807
01:09:42.420 --> 01:09:43.680
And he's like, well, I'm not.

1808
01:09:43.739 --> 01:09:44.340
Yeah.

1809
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:49.680
But here, it just gets worse and it ramps up and up and there's 3

1810
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:51.720
parallel plots going.

1811
01:09:51.779 --> 01:09:54.600
So there's Patel and the eggs.

1812
01:09:54.659 --> 01:10:01.439
There is uh, the, you know, Laan and Erika and Mabenga and and

1813
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:04.920
Kirk on the gone shit.

1814
01:10:04.979 --> 01:10:08.039
And then there's what's going on here where we're trying to get

1815
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:11.760
the get the gone signal sent.

1816
01:10:11.819 --> 01:10:16.079
And in in best of both worlds, they just send a signal, Picard

1817
01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:18.539
just says, sleep, and they just send a radio message.

1818
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.180
Whereas here they have to do a list stellar engine.

1819
01:10:21.180 --> 01:10:23.100
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1820
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:25.260
Although, do you remember my reaction when we were watching it the

1821
01:10:25.260 --> 01:10:26.399
other day and I went, what?

1822
01:10:26.460 --> 01:10:28.020
Every Gorman is gone.

1823
01:10:28.140 --> 01:10:29.640
Oh, fucking hell.

1824
01:10:29.699 --> 01:10:33.000
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. genre shows are always good.

1825
01:10:33.060 --> 01:10:35.760
Can't we just leave a couple to deal with at a later date?

1826
01:10:35.819 --> 01:10:39.239
Well, in fact, we do see, we do see it going later in the season.

1827
01:10:39.300 --> 01:10:42.300
They could have done a Twilight Zone style ending, which is one go

1828
01:10:42.300 --> 01:10:42.960
ongoing left.

1829
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:43.680
On the platform.

1830
01:10:43.739 --> 01:10:48.060
But it turns out that they will talk about this next time because

1831
01:10:48.060 --> 01:10:49.500
we discover stuff about the Gorn.

1832
01:10:49.619 --> 01:10:55.260
I mean, what's so funny is how scales change over the years.

1833
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:58.560
So best of both worlds, you know, the Borg are going to attack

1834
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:00.539
Earth and it's 3 cubes.

1835
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:02.460
Yeah, fucking hell.

1836
01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:04.859
And then we sort of get to do something when we can start doing

1837
01:11:04.859 --> 01:11:06.840
impressive CGI.

1838
01:11:06.899 --> 01:11:11.880
And so it's, you know, 1500 Dominion ships heading towards Earth

1839
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:13.800
at one point or Deep Space 9.

1840
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.880
And then here now, it's, in fact, they pull back from the scale

1841
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:20.939
because there's not that many ships in the 2nd one, but it's just

1842
01:11:20.939 --> 01:11:25.619
more visually impressive and it feels, it feels dangerous.

1843
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:30.239
You know, because you're there, you're in the wreckage. you're in

1844
01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:32.220
the atmosphere with that terrifying ship.

1845
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:33.239
Yeah, you know.

1846
01:11:33.300 --> 01:11:34.260
It's pretty great.

1847
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:38.699
The 2nd episode, which, you know, I'm already talking about that

1848
01:11:38.699 --> 01:11:39.779
kind of is cinema.

1849
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:41.939
Yeah, 0 yeah. we should go and watch it.

1850
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:43.140
Okay, then.

1851
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:44.819
I will count us in.

1852
01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:46.380
Yeah, break on the gore.

1853
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:48.840
Go on Gore.

1854
01:11:48.899 --> 01:11:49.500
All right.

1855
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:56.220
Five, four, three, two, one, and we're off.

1856
01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.460
Okay, so the ident.

1857
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:03.840
All happening?

1858
01:12:03.899 --> 01:12:06.720
It sort of got a lovely pride flag going behind it there, doesn't

1859
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:06.899
it?

1860
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:09.300
Yeah, making the combat.

1861
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:11.880
Yeah Batchy.

1862
01:12:11.939 --> 01:12:12.659
It is badgy.

1863
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:13.140
Yeah.

1864
01:12:13.380 --> 01:12:14.819
Okay.

1865
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:17.760
We're going to get a great previously on now.

1866
01:12:17.819 --> 01:12:21.119
Oh, yeah, look at that thing coming through the atmosphere.

1867
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:22.560
The smoke and the ash.

1868
01:12:22.619 --> 01:12:23.520
Yeah, yeah, yeah. around it.

1869
01:12:23.579 --> 01:12:24.779
It looks so massive.

1870
01:12:24.899 --> 01:12:25.619
It's so big.

1871
01:12:25.739 --> 01:12:27.239
And different.

1872
01:12:27.300 --> 01:12:28.859
I think that is kind of important.

1873
01:12:28.979 --> 01:12:31.560
It's the fact that you can't quite see what it is as well.

1874
01:12:31.619 --> 01:12:35.279
And you've already seen just a normal, you know, a shuttle coming

1875
01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:36.119
through the air too.

1876
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:38.399
Yeah.

1877
01:12:38.460 --> 01:12:39.239
Okay.

1878
01:12:39.300 --> 01:12:41.760
So, and there's it looks so great.

1879
01:12:41.819 --> 01:12:44.460
In the...

1880
01:12:44.460 --> 01:12:46.619
When we see any in space suits in 2, do we?

1881
01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:48.659
No, I don't know. don't remember.

1882
01:12:48.779 --> 01:12:51.300
We do see them, though, when, you know, they get out the sacks and

1883
01:12:51.300 --> 01:12:52.500
loads of them attack.

1884
01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:53.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1885
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:54.180
It's great.

1886
01:12:54.300 --> 01:12:56.279
Yeah, we do get plenty of...

1887
01:12:56.460 --> 01:12:59.039
Yeah, that's funny.

1888
01:12:59.100 --> 01:13:00.359
Oh keep an eye out.

1889
01:13:00.420 --> 01:13:04.859
I'm not sure whether he gets to be in the opening credits yet or

1890
01:13:04.859 --> 01:13:05.340
not.

1891
01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:07.260
Okay, well, he will eventually.

1892
01:13:07.260 --> 01:13:09.180
In between singing the music.

1893
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:10.140
I will take the.

1894
01:13:10.260 --> 01:13:11.579
We'll keep an eye out for it.

1895
01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:15.239
Yeah, I know, I know you don't want to see Gaun's breaking out of

1896
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:16.020
Marie.

1897
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:18.420
No, but I was a little disappointed.

1898
01:13:19.619 --> 01:13:21.539
Oh, look all those rocks fabulous.

1899
01:13:21.659 --> 01:13:24.119
No, please, I haven't forgotten that.

1900
01:13:24.180 --> 01:13:25.079
Yeah, here it is.

1901
01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:28.680
Admiral April's ordering our immediate withdrawal.

1902
01:13:28.739 --> 01:13:32.880
It was in the actual previously on.

1903
01:13:32.939 --> 01:13:34.380
And then they say...

1904
01:13:34.380 --> 01:13:36.840
Now we get the conclusion and you watch.

1905
01:13:36.899 --> 01:13:38.880
They just misrememember his orders.

1906
01:13:38.939 --> 01:13:40.500
Oh, death.

1907
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:42.659
I suppose that's a continuity person.

1908
01:13:43.979 --> 01:13:45.239
Yep, that's how we start.

1909
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:45.840
A lot faster.

1910
01:13:45.899 --> 01:13:47.579
See, the pace now.

1911
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:48.479
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1912
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:49.979
The giant gaunt ship.

1913
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:52.380
So good.

1914
01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:54.239
I can't quite make them out.

1915
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:58.140
Yeah, they, I mean, they whirl around, which is pretty great.

1916
01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:00.659
And so there's never a clear up or down.

1917
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:04.319
And then the gone ship there again is just a strange shape.

1918
01:14:04.380 --> 01:14:07.739
I do not object to the fast camera work during an action

1919
01:14:07.739 --> 01:14:08.399
sequence.

1920
01:14:08.460 --> 01:14:10.079
Okay, especially when we're in space.

1921
01:14:10.140 --> 01:14:10.500
Here we go.

1922
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:12.659
Ahura, repeat his last order.

1923
01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:15.359
She says retreating rendezvous with the fleet, sir.

1924
01:14:15.420 --> 01:14:17.760
He gave coordinates, but he did say immediately.

1925
01:14:17.819 --> 01:14:18.600
No.

1926
01:14:18.659 --> 01:14:19.380
Oh, really?

1927
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:20.640
Because I thought he did.

1928
01:14:20.699 --> 01:14:23.220
He just said, but didn't he say immediately?

1929
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:24.659
That's what the subtitle says.

1930
01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:29.220
Oh, maybe he's maybe Anson got the line wrong.

1931
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:32.880
They're working.

1932
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:34.979
The subtitle is like, no, we can correct this.

1933
01:14:35.100 --> 01:14:37.680
No, they might be working from the school.

1934
01:14:37.739 --> 01:14:39.779
Maybe talk very quickly about Celius hair.

1935
01:14:39.899 --> 01:14:40.560
Yes.

1936
01:14:40.619 --> 01:14:46.439
So, Celia Gooding Jr, as I like to think, Celia Rose is jamming

1937
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:51.000
her new long hair under a wig, and so she has this giant...

1938
01:14:51.060 --> 01:14:52.199
You are right.

1939
01:14:52.260 --> 01:14:53.880
It ends a bit more dramatic.

1940
01:14:53.880 --> 01:14:57.600
It goes off at the back, doesn't it?

1941
01:14:57.659 --> 01:14:59.159
What was that film called?

1942
01:14:59.220 --> 01:15:00.000
Was it Conheads?

1943
01:15:00.060 --> 01:15:00.420
Yeah, yeah.

1944
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:00.960
Yeah, yeah.

1945
01:15:01.020 --> 01:15:03.180
In sort of a side shop.

1946
01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:04.859
And there are a few of those.

1947
01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:05.819
There are a few.

1948
01:15:05.819 --> 01:15:11.100
In fact, even Ethan's hair is a bit longer than the last episode.

1949
01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:15.600
Next week, next week's episode, episode two, we get Christina

1950
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:19.140
coming back from her three-month internship with Roger Corby, who

1951
01:15:19.140 --> 01:15:21.479
becomes a semi-regular character in series three.

1952
01:15:21.539 --> 01:15:23.640
That's a sensible move.

1953
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:24.899
He's Irish.

1954
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:30.720
Ah, and that gives us time to see...

1955
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:31.079
Yeah.

1956
01:15:31.140 --> 01:15:32.579
Which is great.

1957
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:36.359
So she has much cute, she's got a much cuter little hairdo.

1958
01:15:36.420 --> 01:15:38.460
I mean, I live in England.

1959
01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:42.779
So I generally age 2 years in 3 months at the moment anyway.

1960
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:46.140
So I understand, you know, there's constantly Americans probably

1961
01:15:46.140 --> 01:15:46.800
age.

1962
01:15:46.859 --> 01:15:48.060
You know what I mean?

1963
01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:49.619
Faster on the news. yeah.

1964
01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:51.720
Yeah, sort of 2 years every day.

1965
01:15:51.779 --> 01:15:52.979
Yeah, that's right.

1966
01:15:53.100 --> 01:15:55.619
What's that about paracetamol?

1967
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:55.979
Okay.

1968
01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:59.399
Also, I'm ageing as well.

1969
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.199
Inertial dampness to maximum. what we want.

1970
01:16:04.260 --> 01:16:07.859
I will say whilst we were talking about Celia's hair there.

1971
01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:11.520
Just spectacular... is effectual happening.

1972
01:16:11.579 --> 01:16:12.659
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1973
01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:13.020
Yeah.

1974
01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:13.979
I mean, this sounds great.

1975
01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:16.380
That whole corn field, it looked like a massive octopus.

1976
01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:16.979
Did you see it?

1977
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:18.060
The Enos?

1978
01:16:18.060 --> 01:16:19.140
Oh.

1979
01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:19.800
Yeah.

1980
01:16:19.859 --> 01:16:22.859
I will keep shouting rocks every time I see them. smashing into

1981
01:16:22.859 --> 01:16:23.340
the ship.

1982
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.199
This cinema.

1983
01:16:25.260 --> 01:16:27.180
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1984
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:30.840
So what the plan is that they're firing torpedoes into this giant

1985
01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:33.659
ship, but one has a tracker on it.

1986
01:16:33.779 --> 01:16:36.779
And so they're gonna be able to track the ship.

1987
01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:39.060
Do that affect normally when we go to warp?

1988
01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:40.739
That was quite impressive.

1989
01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:43.199
What's it called, that sort of pull back and...

1990
01:16:43.260 --> 01:16:43.920
Yeah, but yeah, yeah.

1991
01:16:43.979 --> 01:16:45.060
No, it's the dolly where you...

1992
01:16:45.060 --> 01:16:46.680
The jaws are fake, isn't it?

1993
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:47.699
Yeah, yeah, yeah. the same time.

1994
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:49.020
It was the 1st time it was done, I think.

1995
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:50.880
Okay, so we're keeping an eye out.

1996
01:16:50.939 --> 01:16:52.140
Jess's credit.

1997
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:53.460
Christina.

1998
01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:55.439
Oh, what a fabulous cast.

1999
01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:56.699
Celia Rose Gooding.

2000
01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:57.119
Yeah.

2001
01:16:57.119 --> 01:16:59.039
Fabulous, Melissa Nivia.

2002
01:16:59.100 --> 01:16:59.460
Who's that?

2003
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:01.680
That's um, uh, Vegas.

2004
01:17:01.739 --> 01:17:02.399
Who's Mabs?

2005
01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:03.300
Mabenga.

2006
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:04.380
There's Martin Queen there.

2007
01:17:04.439 --> 01:17:07.560
Ah, he's like, yes. played it, right?

2008
01:17:07.619 --> 01:17:15.119
Oh, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

2009
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:15.779
It's so good.

2010
01:17:15.779 --> 01:17:19.439
Okay, let's see where we're going new.

2011
01:17:19.619 --> 01:17:24.300
I love you, I think. sort of the Gothic planet there, which was

2012
01:17:24.300 --> 01:17:24.960
green lightning.

2013
01:17:25.020 --> 01:17:26.220
Well, that was kind of boring.

2014
01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:27.720
Standard Voyager Planet.

2015
01:17:27.779 --> 01:17:29.579
Well, there you go. a bit of voyager there for you.

2016
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:31.680
Oh, this is a bit, boy.

2017
01:17:31.739 --> 01:17:33.960
Would you go and pass some nice sort of asteroid?

2018
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:35.520
No, it's a comet, isn't it?

2019
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:37.020
Now we're going through, of course.

2020
01:17:37.079 --> 01:17:38.340
That's too annoying.

2021
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:39.300
Yeah, yeah.

2022
01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:41.039
Don't tell me these are kisses to the past.

2023
01:17:41.100 --> 01:17:42.600
Oh, what's happening here?

2024
01:17:42.659 --> 01:17:43.680
No, they wouldn't have done that.

2025
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:44.460
We've had that before.

2026
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:48.180
And this look rocks and there's a Klingon going off into the

2027
01:17:48.180 --> 01:17:48.539
distance.

2028
01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:51.060
Fabulous sort of tower thing.

2029
01:17:51.060 --> 01:17:52.199
Water planet there.

2030
01:17:52.260 --> 01:17:52.800
Yeah.

2031
01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.319
Launch the runabouts.

2032
01:17:55.380 --> 01:17:56.399
It's a shuttle.

2033
01:17:56.460 --> 01:17:57.539
It's not a runabout.

2034
01:17:57.600 --> 01:17:58.560
Oh, look at this.

2035
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:01.619
Another shot of a different shot of Starbase one.

2036
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:04.680
Why have they got those huge landscapes in domes?

2037
01:18:04.739 --> 01:18:05.880
So you could go on holiday.

2038
01:18:05.939 --> 01:18:08.819
You now have to go back to Earth and visit your parents, you

2039
01:18:08.819 --> 01:18:09.000
know.

2040
01:18:09.060 --> 01:18:11.039
Right, so wasn't a thing at this point, no?

2041
01:18:11.100 --> 01:18:12.300
No, it hadn't been discovered.

2042
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:14.279
Okay, imagine when they found the sex planet.

2043
01:18:14.340 --> 01:18:15.359
I bet it was Kirk.

2044
01:18:15.420 --> 01:18:16.800
Any money.

2045
01:18:16.859 --> 01:18:20.880
It's a little bit more chased than he gets credit for, actually, I

2046
01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:21.119
think.

2047
01:18:21.180 --> 01:18:26.399
We meet a lot of his old girlfriends, but he doesn't get laid.

2048
01:18:26.460 --> 01:18:27.479
Come on, Chris Fisher.

2049
01:18:27.539 --> 01:18:29.880
You're getting all the action to direct this time.

2050
01:18:29.939 --> 01:18:31.260
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2051
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:32.939
It's a different director from the previous one.

2052
01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:34.079
Pablo Picasso.

2053
01:18:34.140 --> 01:18:35.399
The USS Pablo Picasso.

2054
01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:39.180
I would have thought he'd be too cancelled to get a...

2055
01:18:39.239 --> 01:18:40.979
That's quite a great name, isn't it?

2056
01:18:41.100 --> 01:18:41.640
April.

2057
01:18:41.699 --> 01:18:46.560
So there is an Admiral Robert April in the original series and he

2058
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:48.659
was the previous captain of the Enterprise.

2059
01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:52.140
So it's April, then Pike, then Kerr.

2060
01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:54.060
What does work about these scenes?

2061
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:56.520
If we're not going to have her torn apart by the corn.

2062
01:18:56.579 --> 01:19:02.760
Boo, um, is, I think um, Nurse Chappell thinks that is going to

2063
01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:02.939
happen.

2064
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:04.260
No matter what she's doing.

2065
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:07.859
She doesn't think it's gonna work. until she finds the solution.

2066
01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:09.420
She's like, oh, fuck.

2067
01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:13.319
Well, also, I think, like this, like, she is so charming.

2068
01:19:13.380 --> 01:19:18.420
His 2 women, you know, 2 competent professional women having this

2069
01:19:18.420 --> 01:19:19.079
conversation.

2070
01:19:19.140 --> 01:19:20.640
It's really, really great to watch.

2071
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:22.979
And then Spot comes along.

2072
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:27.119
And so even though they've had left things on a bad note, we get

2073
01:19:27.119 --> 01:19:30.899
them working together to save Marie's life and I think it's just

2074
01:19:30.899 --> 01:19:31.380
great.

2075
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:32.520
It's so good.

2076
01:19:32.579 --> 01:19:36.539
I just love that these saints must annoy the wrong source Star

2077
01:19:36.539 --> 01:19:37.079
Trek.

2078
01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:38.279
And competent women.

2079
01:19:38.939 --> 01:19:41.880
What's happened to the magic of Star Trek?

2080
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:43.560
I don't deserve Star Trek.

2081
01:19:44.100 --> 01:19:46.739
So, and of course, this doesn't work.

2082
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:50.340
She can't be put into cryosleep.

2083
01:19:50.399 --> 01:19:55.380
She reacts badly to the medication and so nothing is working.

2084
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:57.359
Imagine that's cordrosine there.

2085
01:19:57.420 --> 01:19:59.640
I like the fact it's blue and red, just like Beverly.

2086
01:19:59.699 --> 01:20:00.180
Yeah, yeah.

2087
01:20:00.300 --> 01:20:03.600
I love, she's got such a fabulous hypospray too.

2088
01:20:03.659 --> 01:20:04.380
That looks really good.

2089
01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:06.119
Her body is rejecting the serum.

2090
01:20:06.180 --> 01:20:06.539
Yeah.

2091
01:20:06.539 --> 01:20:07.500
Yeah.

2092
01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:08.579
Oh, don't tell him.

2093
01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:10.140
He got his own problems.

2094
01:20:10.199 --> 01:20:13.140
Yeah, no, I know, but we just have to, we have.

2095
01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:15.180
She's allergic to the serum.

2096
01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:15.840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2097
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:18.479
For fuck's sake. as if my day wasn't bad enough.

2098
01:20:20.100 --> 01:20:23.579
Kirk is allergic to the serum that makes him not have to wear

2099
01:20:23.579 --> 01:20:24.000
glasses.

2100
01:20:24.060 --> 01:20:24.899
Yes, than a day.

2101
01:20:24.899 --> 01:20:28.560
So before it was a day and a half, now it's less than a day. less

2102
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:29.159
than a day.

2103
01:20:29.220 --> 01:20:31.020
Oh my god, imagine that.

2104
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:32.579
What would you do with that day?

2105
01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:34.380
Well, not a lot, really.

2106
01:20:34.979 --> 01:20:36.720
Yeah, that's right.

2107
01:20:36.779 --> 01:20:37.680
I think, yeah.

2108
01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:43.680
It's what makes the end scene, though, between Chris and Marie.

2109
01:20:43.739 --> 01:20:44.399
So good.

2110
01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:45.899
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2111
01:20:45.899 --> 01:20:48.060
And they haven't been together, you know, like I think he does

2112
01:20:48.060 --> 01:20:49.020
turn up in the middle of it.

2113
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:53.039
I would want the pressure of having to save the captain's

2114
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:54.720
girlfriend from being eaten alive.

2115
01:20:54.779 --> 01:20:55.979
Yeah.

2116
01:20:55.979 --> 01:20:58.739
Well, you know, because everyone kind of matters.

2117
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.020
I mean, you know, but that's a big pressure.

2118
01:21:01.079 --> 01:21:01.739
You know?

2119
01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:05.399
Like, you know, he could probably forgive most mistakes, but if

2120
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:07.680
she makes a mistake, Mike, he's so good.

2121
01:21:07.739 --> 01:21:08.760
He's such a nice man.

2122
01:21:08.819 --> 01:21:09.600
It would be all right.

2123
01:21:09.659 --> 01:21:10.979
Entire fleet ready to go.

2124
01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:12.180
Oh my god, this is massive now.

2125
01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:15.300
So April's on board, like April's now on board.

2126
01:21:15.300 --> 01:21:17.220
Because we've had enough breathing room.

2127
01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:20.939
We've, the Gorn have gone, but we can track them whenever we want

2128
01:21:20.939 --> 01:21:22.920
and now we get to get Bob on the ship.

2129
01:21:22.979 --> 01:21:24.359
Oh, these admirals.

2130
01:21:24.420 --> 01:21:26.159
We'll just do with this one thing at a time.

2131
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:28.800
Let's not think about the big picture, you know.

2132
01:21:28.859 --> 01:21:31.800
I do wish there was a bit of that discovery swear words now.

2133
01:21:31.859 --> 01:21:33.720
Yeah, you know, you're a prick.

2134
01:21:33.779 --> 01:21:35.520
No, because in fact, what he does.

2135
01:21:35.579 --> 01:21:38.880
Remember, he says, these are the regulations, this is the official

2136
01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:42.420
position, you can't do anything, you know, blah, blah, blah

2137
01:21:42.539 --> 01:21:44.340
1000000s of lives depend on us.

2138
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:46.020
And then he says, being wimps.

2139
01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:47.939
But then they talk about what he's really going to do.

2140
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:51.000
Like we changed the subject.

2141
01:21:51.060 --> 01:21:52.439
We are praise.

2142
01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:55.680
Yeah, which is what La'an said in the previous episode.

2143
01:21:55.859 --> 01:22:02.340
And it's not just like not doing anything about it.

2144
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:05.880
It shows weakness and threatens the Federation more, but basically

2145
01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:09.359
it looked like Bob was always just going to say, yeah, no, but

2146
01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:10.199
what are you really going to do?

2147
01:22:10.260 --> 01:22:11.939
But I do love the message.

2148
01:22:12.060 --> 01:22:14.100
And what, you know, an old 90s trope.

2149
01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:17.340
We saw it with Kira in one episode is when, you know, the admiral

2150
01:22:17.340 --> 01:22:19.319
comes along and says, no, you're not going to do this thing.

2151
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:22.140
And then, you know, they go off and do it anyway.

2152
01:22:22.199 --> 01:22:22.859
I do like that.

2153
01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:25.260
But here they get permission from April, basically.

2154
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:26.880
Like back door permission.

2155
01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:28.319
Wipe the shit out of them.

2156
01:22:28.380 --> 01:22:30.300
Yeah, it doesn't quite say that.

2157
01:22:30.539 --> 01:22:33.239
Officially these are your orders.

2158
01:22:33.300 --> 01:22:38.220
But he's like, push the line back or something like that.

2159
01:22:38.279 --> 01:22:39.000
I remember now.

2160
01:22:39.060 --> 01:22:41.340
But we, yeah, and unofficially.

2161
01:22:41.399 --> 01:22:42.779
Yeah, so here we go.

2162
01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:43.619
What's happening here?

2163
01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:45.239
Yeah, what have you got planned?

2164
01:22:45.300 --> 01:22:47.159
said, why have I listened to that whole speech then?

2165
01:22:47.220 --> 01:22:48.420
Just tell me what you want me to do.

2166
01:22:48.479 --> 01:22:50.640
No, because he's asking him.

2167
01:22:50.699 --> 01:22:52.920
He's giving Chris's hand.

2168
01:22:52.979 --> 01:22:55.739
Now he's Hella. and Scott.

2169
01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:57.060
Oh, this is the best.

2170
01:22:57.119 --> 01:22:58.020
This is the best.

2171
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:01.380
Now, 2 years later we are getting an exposition scene to explain

2172
01:23:01.380 --> 01:23:05.159
what they're up to because this is nearly 2 years enough.

2173
01:23:05.220 --> 01:23:08.399
And it's a funny scene in itself.

2174
01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:10.800
We get that in the 90s when it's just been the summer.

2175
01:23:10.920 --> 01:23:12.000
Yeah.

2176
01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:17.039
It's like being back in the lecture hall. and that's what's fun

2177
01:23:17.039 --> 01:23:17.340
too.

2178
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:23.340
I mean, she has literally lectured in engineering generations of

2179
01:23:23.340 --> 01:23:25.439
Starfleet people because she's so old.

2180
01:23:25.500 --> 01:23:28.020
First rule, Sky. write it down.

2181
01:23:28.079 --> 01:23:31.619
There's a reason we track our work no matter what the circumstance

2182
01:23:31.619 --> 01:23:32.460
is.

2183
01:23:32.520 --> 01:23:33.899
This thing here.

2184
01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:35.579
Now this scene is so funny.

2185
01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:38.399
There are some great scenes here, but his pint coming.

2186
01:23:38.460 --> 01:23:39.899
How long before you get that working?

2187
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:43.439
He's about to say, well, I can't get it to work, and she just

2188
01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:46.739
immediately says, it'll be there by the time you're ready.

2189
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:50.939
Like, well, like...

2190
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:51.960
Yep, we'll do it.

2191
01:23:52.020 --> 01:23:53.939
And Scott is looking at her like, what?

2192
01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:55.140
Yeah, that's right.

2193
01:23:55.140 --> 01:23:58.199
She finds some ingenious way to get him to focus.

2194
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:01.020
Wow, that's no pressure.

2195
01:24:02.100 --> 01:24:04.199
That's quite good, actually.

2196
01:24:04.260 --> 01:24:04.680
Well done.

2197
01:24:04.979 --> 01:24:08.460
Oh my god, we're going in the corn ship.

2198
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:10.439
It looks amazing.

2199
01:24:10.500 --> 01:24:15.239
And again, this eccentric space that you can't even properly grasp

2200
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:15.779
what it is.

2201
01:24:15.899 --> 01:24:17.520
Have we ever seen a ship like that?

2202
01:24:17.579 --> 01:24:18.060
No.

2203
01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:20.279
It looks like a...

2204
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:21.420
Oh, my God.

2205
01:24:21.479 --> 01:24:22.380
Now we're in there.

2206
01:24:22.380 --> 01:24:23.819
So we're in the food sucks now.

2207
01:24:24.300 --> 01:24:28.079
And again, it's like the threat posed by the Borg is

2208
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:28.920
assimilation.

2209
01:24:28.979 --> 01:24:29.760
Do you know what I mean?

2210
01:24:29.819 --> 01:24:32.699
You go into a kind of thing.

2211
01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:39.659
Yes, but this is just Astoria and Nastia and her hand, her hand

2212
01:24:39.659 --> 01:24:40.800
which has been eaten away.

2213
01:24:40.859 --> 01:24:44.520
But the most shocking thing, is the man who's upside down, the

2214
01:24:44.520 --> 01:24:47.340
colonist, whose face has been melted away.

2215
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:50.340
That is unusually graphic for Star Trek.

2216
01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:51.600
Well, yeah.

2217
01:24:51.659 --> 01:24:52.920
I mean, this is great.

2218
01:24:52.979 --> 01:24:54.779
Look, I've woken up.

2219
01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:58.560
And then she pushed away out of the sack. screaming.

2220
01:24:58.619 --> 01:25:00.779
Yeah, it's like she's been birthed, doesn't it?

2221
01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:03.479
But then she's really high up and she's hanging off her bloody

2222
01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:03.960
tendril.

2223
01:25:04.020 --> 01:25:06.420
It's like a weird forest, isn't it?

2224
01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:07.680
looks amazing.

2225
01:25:07.739 --> 01:25:12.119
Yeah, and it's a great use of a physical space and then the wall

2226
01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:13.619
to give it depth.

2227
01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:16.380
Yeah, that's right, to give it, you can see that, you know, the

2228
01:25:16.380 --> 01:25:17.699
distance is all on the wall.

2229
01:25:18.300 --> 01:25:22.920
It feels like a living organism.

2230
01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:27.359
And they get, they're covered in sort of swarf eager and shit for

2231
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:28.680
the rest of the episode as well.

2232
01:25:28.739 --> 01:25:29.640
Oh, it's horrible.

2233
01:25:29.699 --> 01:25:32.399
Mind you, if that's acid, I'd wipe it off, you know.

2234
01:25:32.460 --> 01:25:32.880
Yeah.

2235
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:34.920
So they are being digested.

2236
01:25:34.979 --> 01:25:37.020
It looks incredible, doesn't it?

2237
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:39.300
You can see the silhouettes of people inside.

2238
01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:40.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2239
01:25:40.260 --> 01:25:43.619
It's really well done What I do find quite funny is, of course

2240
01:25:43.619 --> 01:25:46.920
she's been putting sacks right next to all of the Enterprise for

2241
01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:49.800
you, and those are the only people they take out.

2242
01:25:49.859 --> 01:25:51.060
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2243
01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:52.020
Fuck the.

2244
01:25:52.079 --> 01:25:55.079
Oh, look, and of course, Sam vomits everywhere.

2245
01:25:55.140 --> 01:25:59.699
There we go. cuts to a long shot where you can literally see them

2246
01:25:59.699 --> 01:26:00.060
vomit.

2247
01:26:00.300 --> 01:26:03.600
Oh, this is really horrible.

2248
01:26:03.659 --> 01:26:04.739
Yeah, isn't it?

2249
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:06.359
Well, because she's a pilot.

2250
01:26:06.420 --> 01:26:07.560
And it's her hands.

2251
01:26:07.619 --> 01:26:10.500
I thought that they were going to kill her.

2252
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:12.899
There's bone coming out of it.

2253
01:26:13.500 --> 01:26:16.260
Like, and they do the wrong thing.

2254
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:17.039
They cut away quick.

2255
01:26:17.100 --> 01:26:18.420
It's enough to...

2256
01:26:18.420 --> 01:26:19.079
We do see it, though.

2257
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:19.739
Shock you.

2258
01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:20.520
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2259
01:26:20.579 --> 01:26:23.760
But they don't, it's not exploited, which I quite like.

2260
01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:26.579
Oh, Paul, look at the state of it.

2261
01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:28.800
Yeah, but he says we can...

2262
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:29.880
Yeah, that's the dead guy.

2263
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:34.140
It's not even desiccated, it is like...

2264
01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:35.760
Like the skin's been burned off.

2265
01:26:35.819 --> 01:26:37.619
Yeah, it's revolting.

2266
01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:38.760
Yeah, it's really good.

2267
01:26:38.819 --> 01:26:41.520
Great. good horror Yeah, yeah, yeah. love this stuff.

2268
01:26:41.819 --> 01:26:45.720
If we can't do it to the crew, we'll do it sort of cool.

2269
01:26:45.779 --> 01:26:49.319
Yeah, and just make it like it make it bleed.

2270
01:26:49.380 --> 01:26:51.180
It's usually all off screen, isn't it?

2271
01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:53.159
These colonists get murdered and we never see anything.

2272
01:26:53.220 --> 01:26:56.760
It's nice to actually see, look at the waltz on that on Benga's

2273
01:26:56.760 --> 01:26:56.939
face.

2274
01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:58.979
Yeah, yeah, like wheels.

2275
01:26:58.979 --> 01:27:01.439
Compare and contrast to, course, oblivion now.

2276
01:27:01.500 --> 01:27:02.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2277
01:27:02.520 --> 01:27:05.579
Nobody could act because their lips were glued together.

2278
01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:08.880
And we need to remember that these are very pretty people.

2279
01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:11.520
We don't want to freck the...

2280
01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:13.680
Yeah, you still would.

2281
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:16.800
Were they all called their faces, Millway?

2282
01:27:16.859 --> 01:27:17.520
Yeah, yeah.

2283
01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:21.359
That's the important thing to remember out straight to worlds.

2284
01:27:21.420 --> 01:27:24.720
It's what if Star Trek, only everyone is hugely attractive.

2285
01:27:24.779 --> 01:27:27.899
The real danger here is they could have been made ugly.

2286
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:29.279
Yeah, yeah.

2287
01:27:29.340 --> 01:27:29.880
No, that's right.

2288
01:27:29.939 --> 01:27:30.840
Shock horror.

2289
01:27:30.899 --> 01:27:31.260
Yeah.

2290
01:27:31.260 --> 01:27:35.760
But this is great because it is a big character thing for her.

2291
01:27:35.819 --> 01:27:39.600
So we're getting flashbacks to her, you know, and her brother and

2292
01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:40.859
all of that sort of thing.

2293
01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:43.260
That's still just peppered though, isn't it?

2294
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:45.300
Yeah, because we don't know what this is about.

2295
01:27:45.420 --> 01:27:49.140
And we'd had it before in 2 episodes in series one, right?

2296
01:27:49.199 --> 01:27:55.199
Um, uh, and she in some senses faces this.

2297
01:27:55.260 --> 01:27:57.180
This is the worst thing that could happen.

2298
01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:02.699
And, um, and, uh, she lives there.

2299
01:28:02.760 --> 01:28:05.819
Although you said it's really nice then after this, she's a bit

2300
01:28:05.819 --> 01:28:06.300
more chill.

2301
01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:08.640
And so this is a pile of shit.

2302
01:28:08.699 --> 01:28:11.819
I'm really surprised they don't use the word shit because they do

2303
01:28:11.819 --> 01:28:12.720
use it.

2304
01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:15.659
Yeah, so we pull the gun out of the pile of shit.

2305
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:16.380
It's covered.

2306
01:28:16.380 --> 01:28:17.279
Is that shit?

2307
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:18.479
No, it's stuffed.

2308
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:19.979
Yeah, weapons from a crap pile.

2309
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:20.760
Oh, okay.

2310
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:22.979
I like, yeah, I'm surprised.

2311
01:28:22.979 --> 01:28:24.539
Strange New World.

2312
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:27.359
Well, except that people's faces are being nice. staff.

2313
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:28.260
Actually, yeah.

2314
01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:29.100
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2315
01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:29.520
Jesus.

2316
01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:32.279
They're willing to go B-movie in some respects.

2317
01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:34.439
They don't swear much in Strangely Worlds.

2318
01:28:34.500 --> 01:28:35.760
I can't think of many.

2319
01:28:35.819 --> 01:28:37.619
Yeah, because they do in discovery.

2320
01:28:37.680 --> 01:28:38.699
Obviously, we say fuck.

2321
01:28:38.699 --> 01:28:40.619
No, not as what I'm discovered.

2322
01:28:40.680 --> 01:28:41.939
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2323
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:45.539
We say fucking discovery of Tilly and Stamets both say far.

2324
01:28:45.600 --> 01:28:47.159
Fuck you, John Luke.

2325
01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:49.380
I was so shocked.

2326
01:28:50.460 --> 01:28:51.359
I fell off the sofa.

2327
01:28:51.420 --> 01:28:52.680
Would you remember the thing?

2328
01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:53.939
I know.

2329
01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.399
Scott, he's got comedy glasses.

2330
01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:59.399
And he's got his overbite thing because he's thinking, so he's got

2331
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.340
a sort of overbite, you know, like he's doing a comedy phase.

2332
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:03.600
Is this where she comes in?

2333
01:29:03.659 --> 01:29:05.399
Ah, boheed.

2334
01:29:05.460 --> 01:29:05.819
What's that?

2335
01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:06.779
don't even know what that is.

2336
01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:07.739
The corn.

2337
01:29:07.739 --> 01:29:08.520
Yeah.

2338
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:09.960
Shit, shake.

2339
01:29:10.020 --> 01:29:10.619
What are you doing?

2340
01:29:10.739 --> 01:29:12.239
No, we're all gonna die.

2341
01:29:12.899 --> 01:29:17.640
So it's Pelia running in, putting him under pressure. and that

2342
01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:18.180
makes it work.

2343
01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:19.680
And then she starts laughing.

2344
01:29:21.539 --> 01:29:25.380
Just in time for Bridge, is it ready?

2345
01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:27.899
Actually, it's just been finished, sir.

2346
01:29:28.380 --> 01:29:30.539
She's such a cow.

2347
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:32.279
Oh, she's great.

2348
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:34.920
She goes, it was fun.

2349
01:29:36.600 --> 01:29:39.060
With too much time on your hands.

2350
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:41.039
You fall apart. and that is Scottish, right?

2351
01:29:41.100 --> 01:29:42.960
He does work best under pressure.

2352
01:29:43.020 --> 01:29:43.500
Do you remember?

2353
01:29:43.619 --> 01:29:44.340
Doomsday machine?

2354
01:29:44.399 --> 01:29:45.899
Yeah, gentlemen, if you're ready.

2355
01:29:46.380 --> 01:29:48.840
It's got to be a serious situation.

2356
01:29:48.899 --> 01:29:52.800
And this is funny too, because he's an outsider.

2357
01:29:52.859 --> 01:29:57.180
You know, he is actually an outsider and she's saying that he puts

2358
01:29:57.180 --> 01:30:00.180
up walls as defence and look.

2359
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.420
He says you're not even by superior officer.

2360
01:30:03.479 --> 01:30:05.819
He walks off and she's a bit stricken.

2361
01:30:05.880 --> 01:30:09.420
She feels sorry for him. like she cares about body language

2362
01:30:09.420 --> 01:30:09.899
there.

2363
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:13.199
Where his face was down, his arms were beyond that.

2364
01:30:13.260 --> 01:30:14.520
She feels bad about it.

2365
01:30:14.579 --> 01:30:16.199
You think he felt a bit ashamed?

2366
01:30:16.260 --> 01:30:17.880
It's really good.

2367
01:30:18.659 --> 01:30:22.619
There's there's some cone head, cone head Celia there.

2368
01:30:22.680 --> 01:30:24.000
Massive hair.

2369
01:30:24.060 --> 01:30:26.159
Oh, God, shuffle there, that's one.

2370
01:30:26.220 --> 01:30:28.079
She must have looked at her, rushes and gone.

2371
01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:29.159
Oh, God.

2372
01:30:29.220 --> 01:30:30.840
Couldn't we just turn around?

2373
01:30:30.899 --> 01:30:32.520
No, what?

2374
01:30:32.579 --> 01:30:33.479
Like, what line?

2375
01:30:33.539 --> 01:30:34.199
I don't know.

2376
01:30:34.260 --> 01:30:36.539
A magic hair growing device of course.

2377
01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:38.100
Something.

2378
01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:40.920
I mean, that doesn't look at the back of her head.

2379
01:30:40.979 --> 01:30:41.699
I know, I know.

2380
01:30:41.699 --> 01:30:45.479
Just don't lift one of those bloody aliens from the cage.

2381
01:30:45.539 --> 01:30:46.739
Yes.

2382
01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:48.180
Her head is so huge.

2383
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:51.420
They must have really...

2384
01:30:51.420 --> 01:30:54.060
There is a lot of hair to get...

2385
01:30:54.060 --> 01:30:55.079
Which lacquer, did they use?

2386
01:30:55.140 --> 01:30:56.819
Well, wait till you see...

2387
01:30:56.880 --> 01:30:59.159
I'll show you a picture later of what she looks like an episode.

2388
01:30:59.159 --> 01:31:00.899
I want number one to get more to do.

2389
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:06.060
Yeah, she was, she was running the ship last, last episode.

2390
01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:09.960
Shit, there's one instance where she has the worst hair.

2391
01:31:10.020 --> 01:31:13.319
There's one episode of series 3 where I'm kind of going, what have

2392
01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:14.279
they done with you?

2393
01:31:14.340 --> 01:31:16.800
It was a couple of times I did that to Dax, you know.

2394
01:31:16.859 --> 01:31:18.479
I gave her a massive button head.

2395
01:31:18.659 --> 01:31:22.500
There's some really weird ones. unfortunate.

2396
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:26.279
But, you know, I liked it when she was dancing away to Gilbert and

2397
01:31:26.279 --> 01:31:28.079
Sullivan. subspace reactively.

2398
01:31:28.140 --> 01:31:28.680
She's great.

2399
01:31:28.739 --> 01:31:32.279
Yeah. sort of tiptoeing around with Laan listening.

2400
01:31:32.340 --> 01:31:36.239
Remember it was him, Ethan and her were basically the 3 people

2401
01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:40.380
from the Enterprise in series 2 of destruction.

2402
01:31:40.439 --> 01:31:43.199
They were the ones where it was like, can we just make a show with

2403
01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:43.739
them, please?

2404
01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:45.720
I mean, I would rather...

2405
01:31:45.779 --> 01:31:46.319
Yeah.

2406
01:31:46.439 --> 01:31:48.720
Because there's so many great women on this show.

2407
01:31:48.779 --> 01:31:51.479
It's not that the women aren't getting much snow because the men

2408
01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:52.319
are taking all the time.

2409
01:31:52.380 --> 01:31:55.500
It's just that there's so many women that you should have to take

2410
01:31:55.500 --> 01:31:56.220
your turns, you know?

2411
01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:58.140
I have to get your focus.

2412
01:31:58.199 --> 01:31:59.220
Star Trek.

2413
01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:02.819
I love this scene, though. because we're going between 3 plots

2414
01:32:02.819 --> 01:32:03.060
right?

2415
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:05.819
We're going between what's happening on the ship, we're going with

2416
01:32:05.819 --> 01:32:12.060
Christine and Spock, trying to help Marie in Sick Bay, and then

2417
01:32:12.060 --> 01:32:16.140
we've got, you know, that group who are on the gone ship.

2418
01:32:16.199 --> 01:32:17.640
And it just keeps going.

2419
01:32:17.699 --> 01:32:19.260
I can trace this back.

2420
01:32:19.319 --> 01:32:24.239
You know, I can, the 1st time I remember an ABC where it ramps and

2421
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:26.880
ramps and ramps. and do you remember when we did Shadows and

2422
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:27.300
Cymbals?

2423
01:32:27.300 --> 01:32:30.960
and it was Kira on the blockade, Cisco on the planet looking for

2424
01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:34.020
the thing. and them trying to blow up the sun.

2425
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:36.779
And obviously that's latter.

2426
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:39.000
Yeah, it's not when they can fight, it'll be an action.

2427
01:32:39.119 --> 01:32:42.600
But now, boy, I mean, it just runs.

2428
01:32:42.659 --> 01:32:46.439
And we're doing this really classic, this classic thing where

2429
01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:48.060
we're discussing something.

2430
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:51.600
We're doing a space thing and now we stop for a 2nd to talk about

2431
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:53.819
our feelings, but we do it very quickly.

2432
01:32:54.239 --> 01:32:56.279
And then we get back to it.

2433
01:32:56.340 --> 01:32:59.159
I do think, oh, we'll keep bringing these people up because it's

2434
01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:00.060
good to mock them.

2435
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:03.420
I think that's some, you know, those Star Trek fans.

2436
01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:06.420
That's their issue, is they just want the space stuff and they

2437
01:33:06.420 --> 01:33:07.380
don't want the feelings.

2438
01:33:07.439 --> 01:33:09.840
But it, like, this is, this is nice.

2439
01:33:09.899 --> 01:33:12.239
That's where the drama comes from.

2440
01:33:12.300 --> 01:33:15.840
There's no drama in a Jeffrey's tube.

2441
01:33:15.899 --> 01:33:19.680
But what matters is that these guys all love each other and you've

2442
01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:23.220
got the spot, Christine relationship, you've got Pike and and

2443
01:33:23.220 --> 01:33:27.479
Marie as well informing this particular plot too.

2444
01:33:27.539 --> 01:33:31.920
I just feel for Ethan Peck all the time.

2445
01:33:31.979 --> 01:33:33.899
He's got the Renee effect.

2446
01:33:33.899 --> 01:33:37.319
I mean, just wanting to reach out to him, except I can see his

2447
01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:37.560
face.

2448
01:33:37.619 --> 01:33:38.399
Yeah.

2449
01:33:38.460 --> 01:33:43.260
Well, I think too, like because he's young here.

2450
01:33:43.319 --> 01:33:47.579
Like, he's definitely young Spock, in a way that he isn't in TOS.

2451
01:33:47.640 --> 01:33:50.819
Like, it's a different type of, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2452
01:33:50.880 --> 01:33:56.939
Um, This relationship is in no way as sophisticated in TOS.

2453
01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:58.859
No, they just weren't capable, were they?

2454
01:33:58.920 --> 01:33:59.640
actually a lot worse.

2455
01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:01.319
Yeah, yeah.

2456
01:34:01.380 --> 01:34:04.199
He throws dinner at her quite a lot.

2457
01:34:04.260 --> 01:34:04.920
Yeah, yeah.

2458
01:34:04.979 --> 01:34:09.420
So we're going back and we're using some stuff from last season.

2459
01:34:09.539 --> 01:34:11.340
What is it all about?

2460
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:12.060
I didn't have a clue.

2461
01:34:12.180 --> 01:34:13.199
Zona's blood.

2462
01:34:13.260 --> 01:34:14.399
She's Illyrian.

2463
01:34:14.460 --> 01:34:16.680
Is that what Gonan is?

2464
01:34:16.739 --> 01:34:17.460
No.

2465
01:34:17.520 --> 01:34:19.079
That's Elorian.

2466
01:34:19.260 --> 01:34:27.539
So, Illyrian, they get mentioned in Enterprise series 3, and it's

2467
01:34:27.539 --> 01:34:30.720
an Illyrian ship that they steal the warp core from.

2468
01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:32.220
Okay.

2469
01:34:32.279 --> 01:34:39.300
And Illyrians use genetic engineering to make changes to

2470
01:34:39.300 --> 01:34:42.420
themselves so that they can adapt to different environments.

2471
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:47.399
And for that reason, she's not eligible to be in Starfleet.

2472
01:34:47.460 --> 01:34:50.939
And so because she lies on her application.

2473
01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:54.119
She gets arrested at the end of series one.

2474
01:34:54.180 --> 01:34:57.359
So the Cliffhanger series one is her getting arrested.

2475
01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:03.300
And then the 2nd episode of series 2 is a courtroom drama where

2476
01:35:03.300 --> 01:35:07.739
she defends herself and Marie is the prosecutor because of course

2477
01:35:07.739 --> 01:35:08.220
she is.

2478
01:35:08.279 --> 01:35:10.680
Oh, it's really good.

2479
01:35:10.739 --> 01:35:12.899
Did I remember that rightly?

2480
01:35:13.020 --> 01:35:14.340
I think Marie is the prosecutor.

2481
01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:16.739
I mean, I have made them look a bit ugly actually here.

2482
01:35:16.800 --> 01:35:18.359
It's pretty little pretty.

2483
01:35:18.420 --> 01:35:22.199
It's a bit, yeah, but I'm sure I don't know, someone covered in

2484
01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:24.300
bones. have a shower first, I think.

2485
01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:25.380
Probably at least.

2486
01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:27.600
I mean, it really looks like it's burnt their skin.

2487
01:35:27.659 --> 01:35:29.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah. it, isn't it?

2488
01:35:29.100 --> 01:35:31.500
I mean, if Leon had woken up any later.

2489
01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:32.520
Yeah.

2490
01:35:32.579 --> 01:35:35.100
Yeah. someone may not have been pretty.

2491
01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:35.760
That's right.

2492
01:35:35.819 --> 01:35:37.800
Well, I think there's probably a lot of colony.

2493
01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:41.399
This was where we had a few unfortunate side shots of Ahura.

2494
01:35:41.460 --> 01:35:42.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2495
01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:45.420
You see, you want to who are in it because she is the best one.

2496
01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:49.079
What she needs right now is extreme close-ups of just her face.

2497
01:35:49.140 --> 01:35:49.800
Yeah.

2498
01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:52.079
Just no shots of her hair.

2499
01:35:52.140 --> 01:35:52.920
Yeah.

2500
01:35:52.979 --> 01:35:56.220
So again, this is being explained to us, but he knows it already.

2501
01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:57.720
Coronal mass objections.

2502
01:35:57.779 --> 01:35:59.699
That's what they called it in that, I guess not an episode.

2503
01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:00.239
Yeah.

2504
01:36:00.300 --> 01:36:01.079
Well it's a real thing.

2505
01:36:01.140 --> 01:36:05.819
Um, so, but they were talking about it in the, in the last episode

2506
01:36:05.819 --> 01:36:07.319
like they were talking about it.

2507
01:36:07.319 --> 01:36:08.279
I remember the last episode.

2508
01:36:08.340 --> 01:36:09.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2509
01:36:09.060 --> 01:36:12.119
And Scotty was talking about the, basically what they do at the

2510
01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:13.500
end as well, wasn't it, the device?

2511
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:14.220
That's right.

2512
01:36:14.279 --> 01:36:17.279
And so essentially setting up this.

2513
01:36:17.699 --> 01:36:18.420
They were thinking ahead.

2514
01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:19.079
That's right.

2515
01:36:19.140 --> 01:36:22.079
Something that best of what we're doing in best of both worlds.

2516
01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:24.359
How do we end this?

2517
01:36:24.420 --> 01:36:26.340
They go to sleep.

2518
01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:27.119
That's fine.

2519
01:36:27.180 --> 01:36:29.760
But, I mean, that kind of works because you've established that

2520
01:36:29.760 --> 01:36:33.119
the Borgara are a kind of like you social species.

2521
01:36:33.180 --> 01:36:34.800
They're just one big hive.

2522
01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:37.380
It is anticlimactic.

2523
01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:41.699
But here, this isn't, it's just lame that they've all gone.

2524
01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:45.479
Well, it's the same that they make them all go to sleep and they

2525
01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:47.220
make them all return to their home world.

2526
01:36:47.279 --> 01:36:51.119
And so it is essentially the same resolution, but they do it with

2527
01:36:51.119 --> 01:36:53.340
a much more risky inspector.

2528
01:36:53.399 --> 01:36:58.140
Yeah, no, it's just send a fucking message. to go from the whole

2529
01:36:58.140 --> 01:37:01.500
of the Federation and Earth is under danger.

2530
01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:02.340
Oh, they've gone.

2531
01:37:02.399 --> 01:37:02.880
We've fixed it.

2532
01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:03.779
It's like, okay.

2533
01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:04.380
Yeah.

2534
01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:06.119
Well, good for you.

2535
01:37:06.180 --> 01:37:07.979
We will see that we will see the one.

2536
01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:10.739
So anyway, she has special blood that's adaptive or whatever.

2537
01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:15.359
And in fact, it kind of matters that she's got some gone stuff in

2538
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:17.340
her and some Illyrian stuff in her.

2539
01:37:17.340 --> 01:37:20.159
And I think there might be another thing as well.

2540
01:37:20.220 --> 01:37:22.319
But all of that is going to be important later.

2541
01:37:22.380 --> 01:37:27.119
Can I suggest, please, that everybody goes and Googles Jacqueline

2542
01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:30.239
Hill from Doctor Who and just have a look at the pictures because

2543
01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:33.060
Una has a very similar kind of vibe.

2544
01:37:33.119 --> 01:37:37.619
That beautiful sort of big hair and very striking eyes.

2545
01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:40.199
So this is not what they go with.

2546
01:37:40.260 --> 01:37:42.720
So they've decided that they've come up with something that has a

2547
01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:45.060
14% chance of succeeding.

2548
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:48.359
We've had worse ops, but that's not what they end up going with.

2549
01:37:48.420 --> 01:37:50.819
They change their mind at the last minute and do something else

2550
01:37:50.819 --> 01:37:51.960
entirely different.

2551
01:37:52.020 --> 01:37:58.859
So remember, they try and stop the eggs from hatching altogether.

2552
01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:01.199
Oh, dare shit.

2553
01:38:01.260 --> 01:38:02.039
What's the matter with her?

2554
01:38:02.100 --> 01:38:02.760
Oh, she's tired.

2555
01:38:02.819 --> 01:38:04.020
Yeah, she's been up a long time.

2556
01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:05.880
I'm not sure that I like this.

2557
01:38:05.939 --> 01:38:08.760
I think that she should just be relieved.

2558
01:38:08.819 --> 01:38:10.979
Yeah, other people...

2559
01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:13.680
What if she made a cock hop at the last minute, yeah.

2560
01:38:13.859 --> 01:38:17.640
You know, press the button to eject the sun.

2561
01:38:17.699 --> 01:38:19.020
She's half asleep.

2562
01:38:19.140 --> 01:38:19.920
Yeah.

2563
01:38:19.979 --> 01:38:20.220
Okay.

2564
01:38:20.279 --> 01:38:26.100
So we've we've tracking the enemy destroyer and we're in this

2565
01:38:26.100 --> 01:38:27.119
binary star system.

2566
01:38:27.180 --> 01:38:27.960
That's the other thing too.

2567
01:38:28.020 --> 01:38:30.720
The last time we said, that time we saw the gore on the 1st time

2568
01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:31.859
we saw them in series one.

2569
01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.319
Do you remember the episode where they don't come out of their

2570
01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:35.039
ships and stuff?

2571
01:38:35.100 --> 01:38:37.979
And that's where we discover they communicate with each other via

2572
01:38:37.979 --> 01:38:38.520
life.

2573
01:38:38.579 --> 01:38:40.020
Oh, what a brilliant episode.

2574
01:38:40.079 --> 01:38:44.039
And there's some big, isn't there a big black hole that they're

2575
01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:45.840
sort of skirting the edge of or something?

2576
01:38:45.899 --> 01:38:47.159
I can't remember.

2577
01:38:47.159 --> 01:38:47.880
I have seen it once.

2578
01:38:47.939 --> 01:38:50.760
But it's that thing where it's space stuff.

2579
01:38:50.819 --> 01:38:54.960
Like they do space stuff like binary stars and gravity welds and

2580
01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:58.920
all of that sort of stuff, you know, like, um, and black holes and

2581
01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:02.340
things, where it's not just the backdrop, but it's part of the

2582
01:39:02.340 --> 01:39:03.180
environment.

2583
01:39:03.239 --> 01:39:06.659
You know, we're here between 2 binary sons and that's where the

2584
01:39:06.659 --> 01:39:07.500
gorn come from.

2585
01:39:07.500 --> 01:39:12.000
And I'm sorry, the shot of a pike silhouettes.

2586
01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:17.699
Looking at the 2 sons. that is so gorgeous I mean, back in the day

2587
01:39:17.699 --> 01:39:20.760
we had Abraham Lincoln. flying towards.

2588
01:39:20.819 --> 01:39:21.539
Look at that.

2589
01:39:21.539 --> 01:39:22.439
No, it's amazing.

2590
01:39:22.500 --> 01:39:24.659
And then the 2 sons, they're sort of twisting in the middle

2591
01:39:24.659 --> 01:39:25.079
together.

2592
01:39:25.140 --> 01:39:26.220
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2593
01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:27.479
I think what's great too.

2594
01:39:27.539 --> 01:39:30.060
Oh, something Marie's not doing well.

2595
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:32.460
She's going to be eaten.

2596
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:33.539
Yeah, yeah.

2597
01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:35.880
So you're saying that she doesn't get eaten eventually.

2598
01:39:35.939 --> 01:39:38.220
No, they do, they have solved it. they dissolve.

2599
01:39:38.399 --> 01:39:41.760
I just wondered if a few particles survived and...

2600
01:39:41.760 --> 01:39:44.039
Oh, yeah, she gets born DNA.

2601
01:39:44.100 --> 01:39:45.720
Oh, yeah, it becomes a thing.

2602
01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:46.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2603
01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:47.039
Okay.

2604
01:39:47.100 --> 01:39:50.100
Oh, so they come back and then they use that as a.

2605
01:39:50.220 --> 01:39:52.920
Well, in fact, no, yeah, it becomes a thing.

2606
01:39:52.979 --> 01:39:55.920
It's complicated that it takes all season, but we'll get there at

2607
01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:56.220
some point.

2608
01:39:56.279 --> 01:39:58.500
Oh, wait, we'll see it in 2050.

2609
01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:03.840
In fact, Pike and Mabenga go on a trip to an abandoned federation

2610
01:40:03.840 --> 01:40:08.399
medical facility in order to get stuff to treat her with in

2611
01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:10.560
episode three, I think, of the season.

2612
01:40:10.619 --> 01:40:12.060
So it's still going on.

2613
01:40:12.119 --> 01:40:14.699
So they are doing. proper consequences.

2614
01:40:14.760 --> 01:40:19.680
Well, and sort of plot consonancy in 3 in a way that we haven't

2615
01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:20.279
done too much.

2616
01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:24.119
But in a way that doesn't, like, if you, like, it needs a line of

2617
01:40:24.119 --> 01:40:25.859
dialogue to explain, you know.

2618
01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:30.659
And still, I mean, the Marie Pike stuff is basically character

2619
01:40:30.659 --> 01:40:32.100
continuity, isn't it?

2620
01:40:32.159 --> 01:40:33.300
You know, so.

2621
01:40:33.300 --> 01:40:35.100
Yes.

2622
01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:36.840
Oh, where did that one go?

2623
01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:40.680
I just think it was a moment of genius and it's discovery, isn't

2624
01:40:40.680 --> 01:40:43.680
it, that decides that that window is not big enough, the little

2625
01:40:43.680 --> 01:40:50.819
screen is not big enough, and it needs to... 100s of gaunt ships

2626
01:40:50.819 --> 01:40:52.079
coming out of the sun.

2627
01:40:52.140 --> 01:40:56.460
Excluding a giant, weird ass looking destroyer. heading straight

2628
01:40:56.460 --> 01:40:57.239
to the Federation.

2629
01:40:57.359 --> 01:40:58.439
That is great.

2630
01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:03.000
Because even in the shadows and symbols, There was only like 5

2631
01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:05.399
Dominion ships coming after them.

2632
01:41:05.460 --> 01:41:07.859
It was that giant crowd of things.

2633
01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:09.359
Just anything.

2634
01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:12.300
That involves blowing up a sum.

2635
01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:14.220
It's just very exciting.

2636
01:41:14.279 --> 01:41:19.079
Well, and and Scotty gets to talk about how you actually really

2637
01:41:19.079 --> 01:41:21.840
can't do anything very specific to a son.

2638
01:41:21.899 --> 01:41:25.500
You kind of have to kind of just hope that it turns out the right

2639
01:41:25.500 --> 01:41:25.800
way.

2640
01:41:25.859 --> 01:41:29.399
We bent the rules for scientific rules in Star Trek before.

2641
01:41:29.460 --> 01:41:34.380
So here we've got this, now we have this thing, you know, we

2642
01:41:34.380 --> 01:41:38.579
either rescue our people or we alert Starfleet, what do we do?

2643
01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:40.439
Those lions, I love.

2644
01:41:40.500 --> 01:41:42.420
We're the only hope the Federation's got right now.

2645
01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:43.680
Here's Marie.

2646
01:41:43.739 --> 01:41:46.979
Oh, stupid spacesuits.

2647
01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:47.520
Look at that.

2648
01:41:47.579 --> 01:41:49.619
Oh, the quarantine suits.

2649
01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:50.460
They look stupid.

2650
01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:53.579
They should be they should be red in next year.

2651
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:54.659
They're slightly red.

2652
01:41:54.899 --> 01:41:57.180
Yeah, so these are the...

2653
01:41:57.359 --> 01:41:58.739
At least they have pretty faces on lit up.

2654
01:41:58.800 --> 01:41:59.159
Yeah.

2655
01:41:59.220 --> 01:42:01.199
Well that's what we want. all we need.

2656
01:42:01.260 --> 01:42:05.220
But it's so that she doesn't spray all over them when the...

2657
01:42:05.279 --> 01:42:06.420
Oh, no, it's really good.

2658
01:42:06.420 --> 01:42:08.279
I mean, I was so getting so excited.

2659
01:42:08.340 --> 01:42:10.199
That stomach is pulsing.

2660
01:42:10.260 --> 01:42:12.659
The eggs are literally...

2661
01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:14.100
Yeah, yeah.

2662
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:15.060
What was our stomach?

2663
01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:16.020
No, no, it's wrong.

2664
01:42:16.079 --> 01:42:17.760
It's a very large space to be around.

2665
01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:19.800
That's her arm grown.

2666
01:42:19.859 --> 01:42:21.300
Can we cut back to it, Chris?

2667
01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:23.460
Christine, you're very pretty, but...

2668
01:42:23.460 --> 01:42:25.439
Oh, it is a stuff. stomach, yeah.

2669
01:42:25.500 --> 01:42:26.699
Yeah, it is too.

2670
01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:27.720
Fuck it, look at that.

2671
01:42:27.779 --> 01:42:29.279
Are those eggs?

2672
01:42:29.340 --> 01:42:30.060
Yeah.

2673
01:42:30.060 --> 01:42:31.920
I'm about to hatch.

2674
01:42:31.979 --> 01:42:32.579
They're coming out.

2675
01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:33.300
It's her back.

2676
01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:35.399
She's like face down at her back.

2677
01:42:35.460 --> 01:42:39.539
Oh, alien, you've got nothing on strange new worlds, alright, when

2678
01:42:39.539 --> 01:42:41.399
it comes to Gorns bursting out of people.

2679
01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:44.520
Oh, look at the ceiling there.

2680
01:42:44.579 --> 01:42:46.319
Yeah, yeah, the whole thing fell down. coming down.

2681
01:42:46.380 --> 01:42:48.000
They've cleared away the rocks now.

2682
01:42:48.060 --> 01:42:50.100
There's a little Hoover that comes in.

2683
01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:52.020
We haven't had dots.

2684
01:42:52.079 --> 01:42:53.279
Why do we have dots in this?

2685
01:42:53.340 --> 01:42:54.659
They have dots on discovery.

2686
01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:56.880
They're just going for their own thing, I guess.

2687
01:42:56.939 --> 01:42:58.079
They are great.

2688
01:42:58.079 --> 01:42:59.579
Are they saying that's a discovery thing?

2689
01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:00.840
robots going about things.

2690
01:43:00.899 --> 01:43:02.399
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's horrible.

2691
01:43:02.460 --> 01:43:05.699
I think it's because it's not Star Trek enough. you know, like a

2692
01:43:05.699 --> 01:43:08.520
classic if a regional trag doesn't have dots.

2693
01:43:08.579 --> 01:43:10.439
We cover with a light pike of stages.

2694
01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:13.439
They should have just got too much personality. going about the

2695
01:43:13.439 --> 01:43:13.619
place.

2696
01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:15.899
They're constantly achieving sentience and refusing.

2697
01:43:15.899 --> 01:43:16.560
Like the scutters.

2698
01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:19.859
Rentor, you know, we're really...

2699
01:43:20.819 --> 01:43:24.720
There's only one exacon that counts, all right. and that's peanut

2700
01:43:24.720 --> 01:43:25.199
hamper.

2701
01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:29.819
Yeah, so here it's he's getting it.

2702
01:43:29.880 --> 01:43:30.600
He's getting it.

2703
01:43:30.659 --> 01:43:34.199
Now we're kind of deciding, we know this because the camera is

2704
01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:35.939
pulling in very slowly on him.

2705
01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:37.619
She's smiling, right?

2706
01:43:37.920 --> 01:43:40.319
We've got a solution, folks.

2707
01:43:40.380 --> 01:43:42.539
Now, these guys...

2708
01:43:42.539 --> 01:43:43.439
This is 1st time on the bridge.

2709
01:43:43.500 --> 01:43:44.340
It was, wasn't it?

2710
01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:44.939
Do you see his face?

2711
01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:45.899
Yeah, he's sort of like, oh.

2712
01:43:45.899 --> 01:43:47.819
I'm on the bridge.

2713
01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:49.500
He's going to be out. one day.

2714
01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:52.680
Yeah, why he, you remember, in TOS, he sort of always takes over

2715
01:43:52.680 --> 01:43:53.579
when they're on the planet.

2716
01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:55.020
He's the 3rd guy.

2717
01:43:55.079 --> 01:43:55.859
Yeah.

2718
01:43:55.859 --> 01:43:56.880
It's Spock.

2719
01:43:56.939 --> 01:44:00.239
But it always comes back to Scotty going, you know, we're not

2720
01:44:00.239 --> 01:44:00.539
going down.

2721
01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:02.460
Well, wait till we hear from them.

2722
01:44:03.060 --> 01:44:08.039
Yeah, so like it's kind of excited doing the techno-babble as

2723
01:44:08.039 --> 01:44:08.220
well.

2724
01:44:08.279 --> 01:44:09.300
He likes it.

2725
01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:10.560
It's very improbable.

2726
01:44:10.619 --> 01:44:12.720
She goes, it's not impossible, is it?

2727
01:44:12.779 --> 01:44:14.159
So we're doing it here.

2728
01:44:14.220 --> 01:44:16.979
And this is the bit where we explode.

2729
01:44:17.039 --> 01:44:17.939
Right?

2730
01:44:17.939 --> 01:44:18.479
Watch.

2731
01:44:18.600 --> 01:44:20.340
This is the bit where we explode.

2732
01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:23.699
Modifying the deflect shields, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

2733
01:44:23.760 --> 01:44:26.939
Watch him smiling, modify everything.

2734
01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:31.859
We're gonna...

2735
01:44:31.859 --> 01:44:32.640
I'm waiting.

2736
01:44:32.699 --> 01:44:33.840
No, it will explode.

2737
01:44:33.899 --> 01:44:34.560
There it is.

2738
01:44:34.680 --> 01:44:36.659
Enterprise destroyed.

2739
01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:45.600
No, he just says, we'll just turn it off before we blow up. seems

2740
01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:46.739
like a solution to me.

2741
01:44:47.699 --> 01:44:51.779
The relationship between them, though, the established

2742
01:44:51.779 --> 01:44:54.359
relationship that we didn't know about. so clever.

2743
01:44:54.420 --> 01:44:55.140
Yeah, it's good.

2744
01:44:55.140 --> 01:44:56.640
It's just instant shorthand.

2745
01:44:56.699 --> 01:44:58.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

2746
01:44:59.939 --> 01:45:01.979
Is she upside down now?

2747
01:45:02.039 --> 01:45:04.260
No, it was her.

2748
01:45:04.260 --> 01:45:04.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2749
01:45:04.800 --> 01:45:08.100
No, I guess, yeah, it's just breasts and things.

2750
01:45:08.100 --> 01:45:10.260
We don't, you know, Those breathing eggs.

2751
01:45:10.319 --> 01:45:11.100
I can't believe it.

2752
01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:13.199
I missed all this. was I watching?

2753
01:45:13.260 --> 01:45:14.760
I don't remember any of this.

2754
01:45:14.939 --> 01:45:21.239
Um, so I think so this is the point where we decide not to go with

2755
01:45:21.239 --> 01:45:21.539
this.

2756
01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:23.340
We're not gonna let them get out.

2757
01:45:23.399 --> 01:45:25.619
So, see, look, oh, it's sort of transparent.

2758
01:45:25.680 --> 01:45:28.439
You can see the thing. growing inside.

2759
01:45:28.500 --> 01:45:30.840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there it is. about to burst out and then he says

2760
01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:31.859
no, actually, let's not do that.

2761
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:33.539
Yeah, that's not.

2762
01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:34.859
Let's let it die.

2763
01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:36.600
No, they don't go with that.

2764
01:45:36.659 --> 01:45:37.140
No way.

2765
01:45:37.199 --> 01:45:41.819
Yes, we know that and then the faith or we do something else.

2766
01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:43.439
So would it have gone wrong then?

2767
01:45:43.500 --> 01:45:48.000
Well, they, they, it was an 86% chance of survival of her dying.

2768
01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:50.340
A 14% chance of survival.

2769
01:45:50.399 --> 01:45:52.800
I mean, better than nothing if they did nothing.

2770
01:45:52.859 --> 01:45:54.359
Yeah, so what?

2771
01:45:54.359 --> 01:45:57.779
So now what they do is they decide to leave them there.

2772
01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:01.680
And then her body just reabsorbs them.

2773
01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:04.800
Gross but offensive.

2774
01:46:04.859 --> 01:46:05.640
Yeah, yeah.

2775
01:46:05.699 --> 01:46:06.300
Yeah.

2776
01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:08.460
So that's what ends up doing.

2777
01:46:08.520 --> 01:46:09.600
I mean, it makes it makes sense.

2778
01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:13.079
But there is something like it ends up reading a little bit like

2779
01:46:13.079 --> 01:46:17.220
she has cancer, you know, and the, it's not episode two.

2780
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:22.140
I think it is episode 3 where she has a go at him at the end of it

2781
01:46:22.140 --> 01:46:25.260
and says I can't baby you through this.

2782
01:46:25.319 --> 01:46:27.119
Oh, God.

2783
01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:29.100
And it's also you're not.

2784
01:46:29.159 --> 01:46:34.260
Um, you know, you don't get to say what the treatment is.

2785
01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:37.500
That's my call completely.

2786
01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:38.699
And it's really good.

2787
01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:39.659
It's really good.

2788
01:46:39.720 --> 01:46:44.279
And he's abashed, but it just reads like a real interaction.

2789
01:46:44.340 --> 01:46:45.239
It's very good.

2790
01:46:45.300 --> 01:46:49.920
Speaking of somebody who has seen men struggle to cope with a

2791
01:46:49.920 --> 01:46:51.119
woman with cancer.

2792
01:46:51.239 --> 01:46:52.199
It's very real.

2793
01:46:52.260 --> 01:46:53.640
Oh yeah, no, I know.

2794
01:46:53.699 --> 01:46:54.420
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2795
01:46:54.479 --> 01:46:55.020
Yeah, exactly.

2796
01:46:55.859 --> 01:47:00.239
Um, yeah, so here we are back in this other plot.

2797
01:47:00.300 --> 01:47:01.020
That's right.

2798
01:47:01.079 --> 01:47:02.760
I think the go ones are coming in a minute.

2799
01:47:02.819 --> 01:47:06.239
And they do save some money, so we get gone on masse.

2800
01:47:06.300 --> 01:47:08.220
Yeah, which is all I wanted.

2801
01:47:08.279 --> 01:47:09.359
Yeah, huge gone.

2802
01:47:09.899 --> 01:47:11.819
I think I would have been disappointed if we didn't get it.

2803
01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:12.840
Oh yeah, I agree.

2804
01:47:12.899 --> 01:47:15.720
I think if you're promising a score and we need to see that.

2805
01:47:15.779 --> 01:47:17.100
But I like this too.

2806
01:47:17.159 --> 01:47:19.199
You know, you're not back there.

2807
01:47:19.260 --> 01:47:21.720
You're not back there, Laan.

2808
01:47:21.779 --> 01:47:24.119
And she goes, yeah, but it's not really great here.

2809
01:47:24.899 --> 01:47:27.119
Well, yeah, no, true.

2810
01:47:27.180 --> 01:47:28.859
There are all gone here.

2811
01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:34.680
It's not about you, Lau. all in this situation together.

2812
01:47:34.739 --> 01:47:38.399
I know you've got some history, but her hand has been eating off

2813
01:47:38.460 --> 01:47:38.699
okay?

2814
01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:39.899
That's right.

2815
01:47:39.960 --> 01:47:44.279
But like when our whole family's eaten or, you know, being...

2816
01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:45.779
I just, I can't imagine...

2817
01:47:45.779 --> 01:47:51.180
I could take them to a more extreme moment or a single person than

2818
01:47:51.180 --> 01:47:54.899
that hand eaten off and her bleeding all that..

2819
01:47:54.960 --> 01:47:57.119
Like that's about as visceral as it can get, right?

2820
01:47:57.180 --> 01:48:00.720
And again, at the end of next week's episode we see that she's

2821
01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:02.100
still traumatised by it.

2822
01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:04.800
Like, it's a very light episode.

2823
01:48:04.859 --> 01:48:06.420
It introduces her little brother.

2824
01:48:06.479 --> 01:48:07.680
It's all cute.

2825
01:48:07.739 --> 01:48:11.880
You know, it's the annual Spock sex comedy episode, but it does

2826
01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:15.779
end with, and meanwhile, Erica is losing her shit because of what

2827
01:48:15.779 --> 01:48:18.359
happened to her last, you know, 3 months ago.

2828
01:48:18.420 --> 01:48:21.899
And I look forward to seeing how you attempt to top this at the

2829
01:48:21.899 --> 01:48:23.039
end of series 3.

2830
01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:25.140
It's quite different.

2831
01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:26.880
I think it needs to be.

2832
01:48:26.939 --> 01:48:29.039
Yeah, it introduces this threat.

2833
01:48:29.100 --> 01:48:29.939
Look at them. amazing.

2834
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.399
Hundreds of sticky gold.

2835
01:48:32.460 --> 01:48:34.859
Yeah, yeah, yeah. all over the ceiling and walls.

2836
01:48:35.579 --> 01:48:36.659
Coming at them.

2837
01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:37.439
Guns firing.

2838
01:48:37.500 --> 01:48:38.939
That's great.

2839
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:39.600
Yeah, awesome.

2840
01:48:39.659 --> 01:48:42.659
Absolutely I do love the fact that in Kurtzman Trait, you know, we

2841
01:48:42.659 --> 01:48:45.720
just sometimes do just devolve into describing what's going on.

2842
01:48:45.779 --> 01:48:48.479
And that's because nothing ever happens in 90s.

2843
01:48:48.539 --> 01:48:51.239
So we have to talk about their sort of ideas.

2844
01:48:51.359 --> 01:48:53.039
Oh, look, what's coming up behind her?

2845
01:48:53.100 --> 01:48:54.239
There's one coming up behind.

2846
01:48:54.300 --> 01:48:55.260
Look behind you.

2847
01:48:55.260 --> 01:48:56.279
It's a doggy.

2848
01:48:56.340 --> 01:48:57.359
It's like a panto.

2849
01:48:57.420 --> 01:48:58.380
He's behind you.

2850
01:48:58.500 --> 01:48:59.279
Kill it quick.

2851
01:48:59.340 --> 01:49:00.960
There's a puppet.

2852
01:49:01.380 --> 01:49:02.159
Huge puppet.

2853
01:49:02.220 --> 01:49:03.539
With great...

2854
01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:05.340
And Sam is really going for it.

2855
01:49:05.399 --> 01:49:09.000
Like, because he lost his shit last time and that's it. one beyond

2856
01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:09.300
the rock.

2857
01:49:09.420 --> 01:49:10.800
Oh shit.

2858
01:49:10.859 --> 01:49:11.699
Shit in hell.

2859
01:49:11.760 --> 01:49:13.859
Oh, I want to pause it on that.

2860
01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:15.539
Yeah, looks amazing, doesn't it?

2861
01:49:15.600 --> 01:49:18.300
Oh, and then blows its head off.

2862
01:49:19.859 --> 01:49:23.399
At least somebody blew up. in this.

2863
01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:25.800
Oh, look at that shot.

2864
01:49:25.859 --> 01:49:27.600
Enterprise going between the 2 signers.

2865
01:49:27.659 --> 01:49:28.800
I know.

2866
01:49:28.800 --> 01:49:29.520
Wonderful.

2867
01:49:29.579 --> 01:49:31.800
That was the best action sequence.

2868
01:49:31.859 --> 01:49:33.000
It was amazing, wasn't it?

2869
01:49:33.060 --> 01:49:33.539
Yeah.

2870
01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:38.399
I mean, what was it, like a 90 seconds, but...

2871
01:49:38.460 --> 01:49:39.720
Stylish 90 seconds.

2872
01:49:39.779 --> 01:49:41.039
Yes, looked really good.

2873
01:49:41.100 --> 01:49:41.819
Lots going on.

2874
01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:44.399
And he picks her up, yeah.

2875
01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:47.520
Yeah, which is extra peril for the climax.

2876
01:49:47.579 --> 01:49:48.119
Yeah.

2877
01:49:48.180 --> 01:49:52.500
And it's a big, like, that was a, that was a man in a suit, of

2878
01:49:52.500 --> 01:49:54.779
course, that, that one picky him up.

2879
01:49:54.779 --> 01:49:56.460
The animatronics are so good.

2880
01:49:56.460 --> 01:49:57.659
Oh, yeah, yeah.

2881
01:49:57.720 --> 01:49:59.100
You can barely notice the difference.

2882
01:49:59.159 --> 01:49:59.939
It's amazing.

2883
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:00.600
Yeah.

2884
01:50:00.659 --> 01:50:04.079
You know, oh, look, we're doing a sort of voyage home now, going

2885
01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:05.340
towards the sun effects.

2886
01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:05.880
Yeah.

2887
01:50:05.880 --> 01:50:09.479
Were you hoping to see some sort of white bodied heads coming

2888
01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:10.739
towards the camera?

2889
01:50:10.800 --> 01:50:12.899
Oh, that's only when you travel in time.

2890
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:13.800
Okay, yeah.

2891
01:50:13.859 --> 01:50:14.579
No, that's true.

2892
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:19.199
So now we're in one of the little gone brown ships and of course

2893
01:50:19.199 --> 01:50:23.640
Joseph is going to fly it because she's been stabbed and had her

2894
01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:24.479
hand dissolved.

2895
01:50:24.539 --> 01:50:28.319
Oh, see, I don't want to see a lot of blood in Star Trek, but I

2896
01:50:28.319 --> 01:50:30.960
just thought it was very effectively used.

2897
01:50:31.020 --> 01:50:33.239
Yeah, and you're not seeing it pour out of Erica?

2898
01:50:33.300 --> 01:50:34.800
Like you're seeing it appear on the thing.

2899
01:50:34.859 --> 01:50:38.760
But it's like that pizza sauce that was all over the console in

2900
01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:39.779
lower decks.

2901
01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:40.380
Do you remember?

2902
01:50:40.439 --> 01:50:41.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2903
01:50:41.460 --> 01:50:44.220
I mean, there's a lot of it on the console.

2904
01:50:44.279 --> 01:50:46.140
This looks amazing, doesn't it?

2905
01:50:46.199 --> 01:50:47.760
The controls are really wild.

2906
01:50:47.819 --> 01:50:49.739
You know, like it just looks incredible.

2907
01:50:49.800 --> 01:50:53.819
And I think she needed her moment because she's had a few

2908
01:50:53.819 --> 01:50:56.039
character moments here, but she hasn't done a great thing.

2909
01:50:56.100 --> 01:50:58.619
No, there's never been an Erica episode at this point.

2910
01:50:58.680 --> 01:51:03.060
The closest is the Lotus Eaters one, uh, where she has a pretty

2911
01:51:03.060 --> 01:51:06.600
significant B plot, but otherwise they've never done an Erica

2912
01:51:06.600 --> 01:51:06.840
episode.

2913
01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:10.140
But Gorn flying their ships looks so funny.

2914
01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:11.640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2915
01:51:11.699 --> 01:51:14.579
So like, you know, they're savage murderers, but they're very

2916
01:51:14.579 --> 01:51:15.539
adept at the wheel.

2917
01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:16.739
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2918
01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:17.100
Look at him.

2919
01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:19.739
He's really going.

2920
01:51:19.739 --> 01:51:20.699
And he's smiling.

2921
01:51:20.760 --> 01:51:22.680
I'm going to get you fuckers.

2922
01:51:23.220 --> 01:51:28.260
But yeah, she's like bleeding out over the controls and trying to

2923
01:51:28.260 --> 01:51:28.859
stay with her.

2924
01:51:28.920 --> 01:51:31.260
And they very cleverly designed the console.

2925
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:33.659
So there's a black space and a white space.

2926
01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:37.560
Yeah, so you can just filling it up, watch it moving.

2927
01:51:37.619 --> 01:51:38.159
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2928
01:51:38.220 --> 01:51:39.060
Nasty.

2929
01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:40.560
Oh, here we go.

2930
01:51:40.619 --> 01:51:42.960
They are very close to that sun now.

2931
01:51:43.020 --> 01:51:44.100
Why is no one sweating?

2932
01:51:44.159 --> 01:51:45.000
They are.

2933
01:51:45.060 --> 01:51:46.140
They are.

2934
01:51:46.140 --> 01:51:46.439
They are.

2935
01:51:46.500 --> 01:51:48.119
Look how shiny.

2936
01:51:48.239 --> 01:51:50.460
Look how shiny everyone is. get the bottle out.

2937
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:51.840
Come on, look how shiny.

2938
01:51:51.899 --> 01:51:53.039
Look how shiny pike is.

2939
01:51:53.100 --> 01:51:54.359
He's really shiny.

2940
01:51:54.420 --> 01:51:55.680
Look at all those tiny ships.

2941
01:51:55.739 --> 01:51:59.399
I'm getting sort of Star Trek beyond vibes from the tiny ships.

2942
01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:01.140
Yeah, definitely.

2943
01:52:01.140 --> 01:52:01.680
Definitely.

2944
01:52:01.739 --> 01:52:03.300
As good as as well.

2945
01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:04.199
Yeah, yeah.

2946
01:52:04.260 --> 01:52:05.699
Oh, this looks better.

2947
01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:08.100
Oh, and I love all of these holograms in the air.

2948
01:52:08.159 --> 01:52:09.840
Yeah, yeah, they do a lot of this.

2949
01:52:09.899 --> 01:52:12.060
So now, now...

2950
01:52:12.060 --> 01:52:14.220
Oh, they're doing the same thing as Ezri.

2951
01:52:14.279 --> 01:52:16.140
They're doing that sort of frame rate thing, aren't they?

2952
01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:17.399
Yeah, yeah, slow down a bit.

2953
01:52:17.460 --> 01:52:18.359
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2954
01:52:18.420 --> 01:52:18.779
Yeah.

2955
01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:22.319
Because of the gravity of the suns or whatever, you know, like, I

2956
01:52:22.319 --> 01:52:24.960
mean, there's just so much going on now, but like, but it's

2957
01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:25.319
like...

2958
01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:28.439
Look at that massive clown of little gone ships coming for them.

2959
01:52:28.500 --> 01:52:30.539
Cut to one, cut to one, cut to one.

2960
01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:31.859
There's such momentum.

2961
01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:32.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2962
01:52:32.939 --> 01:52:35.220
Well, these 2 plots are joining up. now, aren't they?

2963
01:52:35.279 --> 01:52:38.579
The courts flying the chips look great, don't they?

2964
01:52:38.640 --> 01:52:39.720
That looks so cool.

2965
01:52:40.500 --> 01:52:43.020
This is a very niche reference.

2966
01:52:43.079 --> 01:52:44.460
I'm getting Lee John vibes.

2967
01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:45.300
Oh, yeah.

2968
01:52:45.300 --> 01:52:47.220
Oh, you know, at a ship's wheel.

2969
01:52:47.279 --> 01:52:48.539
Very niche reference.

2970
01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:49.500
Check it out.

2971
01:52:49.500 --> 01:52:50.100
Check it out.

2972
01:52:50.699 --> 01:52:53.640
And.

2973
01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:54.659
They're gone.

2974
01:52:54.720 --> 01:52:55.140
They're gone.

2975
01:52:55.260 --> 01:52:57.420
Yeah, they're all gone.

2976
01:52:57.539 --> 01:52:58.079
Yeah.

2977
01:52:58.380 --> 01:53:00.720
Turn it off before we blow up.

2978
01:53:00.779 --> 01:53:01.680
That was the plan.

2979
01:53:01.800 --> 01:53:04.560
And we turn it off and there we go. right.

2980
01:53:04.619 --> 01:53:07.800
I mean, that's quite, yeah, often that's quite handy turning

2981
01:53:07.800 --> 01:53:08.699
something off before it.

2982
01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:09.539
I love that.

2983
01:53:10.199 --> 01:53:12.600
We'll just turn it off before we blow.

2984
01:53:12.659 --> 01:53:16.020
I think that's good on technical advice whenever.

2985
01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:17.399
Yeah.

2986
01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:19.079
And we got the colonists.

2987
01:53:19.140 --> 01:53:21.720
You know, somehow that breach still looks sexy, even though

2988
01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:22.859
it's...

2989
01:53:22.920 --> 01:53:24.060
Oh the bridge looks amazing.

2990
01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:27.840
It's in disarray right now, and there's an overflow infirmary for

2991
01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:29.100
all 100s of colonists.

2992
01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:30.600
Now we just have to beam these guys.

2993
01:53:30.659 --> 01:53:31.739
Will you beam us out?

2994
01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:33.119
She needs medical attention.

2995
01:53:33.119 --> 01:53:34.500
She's getting a shit worst way.

2996
01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:36.779
And this is where we get that great moment.

2997
01:53:36.840 --> 01:53:38.520
I did good or something.

2998
01:53:38.579 --> 01:53:40.560
Yeah, yeah, just like, oh, they're going to kill us.

2999
01:53:40.619 --> 01:53:42.060
And the strings start coming in.

3000
01:53:42.119 --> 01:53:43.439
Oh, shit to now.

3001
01:53:43.500 --> 01:53:45.119
We haven't murdered anyone yet.

3002
01:53:46.920 --> 01:53:49.439
Have we saved Marie?

3003
01:53:49.500 --> 01:53:50.579
Is she saved?

3004
01:53:50.640 --> 01:53:51.779
No.

3005
01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:54.720
There was so much happening that I just couldn't go for a while

3006
01:53:54.779 --> 01:53:59.640
those 2 plots and the, we actually don't see, they, the last that

3007
01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:02.340
we saw of that plot was um them saying we're going to try

3008
01:54:02.340 --> 01:54:03.060
something else.

3009
01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:05.579
And then when we cut back, we find out what it was.

3010
01:54:05.640 --> 01:54:09.659
So we don't get to see that happening because we just concentrate

3011
01:54:09.659 --> 01:54:10.800
on these plots.

3012
01:54:10.859 --> 01:54:13.920
He goes, we won't be seeing the gaunt for a while.

3013
01:54:13.979 --> 01:54:16.199
Well, maybe episode 5 or six.

3014
01:54:16.260 --> 01:54:19.079
No, I think it's 7 or something, but it is later in the season is

3015
01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:19.680
just one of them.

3016
01:54:19.859 --> 01:54:27.000
I mean, it is a genius thing that they zoned in on the gore. was a

3017
01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:28.020
great choice, wasn't it?

3018
01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:28.739
Yeah, yeah.

3019
01:54:28.739 --> 01:54:32.760
Enterprise snuck in 1st and they were that mirror universe.

3020
01:54:32.880 --> 01:54:35.399
And that mirror universe gone is the model for the gone that they

3021
01:54:35.399 --> 01:54:35.760
have here.

3022
01:54:35.760 --> 01:54:37.979
It doesn't look like the gone in arena.

3023
01:54:37.979 --> 01:54:38.880
A bit bad now, though.

3024
01:54:38.939 --> 01:54:39.600
A bit more detailed.

3025
01:54:39.659 --> 01:54:40.619
Oh, yeah, yeah, much better.

3026
01:54:40.680 --> 01:54:41.399
That's the cartoon.

3027
01:54:41.460 --> 01:54:42.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3028
01:54:42.180 --> 01:54:44.039
Oh, no, everyone looks so concerned.

3029
01:54:44.100 --> 01:54:45.720
Hi, America.

3030
01:54:45.779 --> 01:54:46.979
I have a flyer ship.

3031
01:54:47.039 --> 01:54:48.119
And she's gonna die.

3032
01:54:48.180 --> 01:54:49.920
And she's sort of shutting her eyes.

3033
01:54:50.039 --> 01:54:50.699
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3034
01:54:50.760 --> 01:54:51.539
And then they're beamed out.

3035
01:54:51.600 --> 01:54:52.319
Yes.

3036
01:54:52.380 --> 01:54:54.539
And now we discover what they've done.

3037
01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:55.800
Right?

3038
01:54:55.859 --> 01:54:58.319
And is it Chris out there to try and find out?

3039
01:54:58.380 --> 01:54:58.800
No.

3040
01:54:58.979 --> 01:55:02.460
Anyway, they they discover it.

3041
01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:03.840
And do we find?

3042
01:55:03.840 --> 01:55:05.279
We don't even know what it is here.

3043
01:55:05.340 --> 01:55:07.199
No, they're looking at each other like she could be dead.

3044
01:55:07.260 --> 01:55:08.159
No, no, no.

3045
01:55:08.220 --> 01:55:08.699
No, no, no.

3046
01:55:08.760 --> 01:55:09.600
I don't think so.

3047
01:55:09.600 --> 01:55:10.319
I was in her hand.

3048
01:55:10.979 --> 01:55:12.659
So it's like fighting off an infection.

3049
01:55:12.720 --> 01:55:13.380
Yes exactly.

3050
01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:14.460
Yeah.

3051
01:55:14.460 --> 01:55:16.079
The Gorn versus the Gorn.

3052
01:55:16.140 --> 01:55:17.100
Will they kill each other off?

3053
01:55:17.159 --> 01:55:18.300
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3054
01:55:18.420 --> 01:55:19.380
Yeah.

3055
01:55:19.380 --> 01:55:20.939
So, no, they just dissolve.

3056
01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:24.659
And so it's all the infection caused by the foreign, you know the

3057
01:55:24.659 --> 01:55:26.220
foreign material in her body.

3058
01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:29.880
I wouldn't feel very good about myself at this point.

3059
01:55:29.880 --> 01:55:33.300
That's what the cancer kind of metaphor is, I think.

3060
01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:34.140
Yeah.

3061
01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:34.739
Yeah.

3062
01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:39.180
Like an like something alien kind of, you know, in your system.

3063
01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:43.500
Ask why, bold storylines. is pretty good.

3064
01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:45.359
Yeah, here we go.

3065
01:55:45.359 --> 01:55:47.880
Oh, this is this. is the best character moment.

3066
01:55:47.939 --> 01:55:49.020
It's so gorgeous.

3067
01:55:49.079 --> 01:55:51.539
He just, there's no time for fucking banter.

3068
01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:52.859
He just wants to hold her.

3069
01:55:52.979 --> 01:55:54.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3070
01:55:54.180 --> 01:55:55.739
Has he been resistant then?

3071
01:55:55.859 --> 01:55:58.439
Because there's a couple of lines, you know, where he said, I miss

3072
01:55:58.439 --> 01:56:00.119
you and she said, I'll mark the day.

3073
01:56:00.180 --> 01:56:01.140
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3074
01:56:01.199 --> 01:56:02.819
Has he been more tentative in this relationship?

3075
01:56:02.880 --> 01:56:03.779
Sometimes.

3076
01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:04.260
Yeah.

3077
01:56:04.319 --> 01:56:06.539
I mean, the very 1st time we see them, they're in bed together.

3078
01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:09.000
I remember, yeah, in episode one, that's her.

3079
01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:10.920
That lovely snowy location, wasn't it?

3080
01:56:10.979 --> 01:56:12.300
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3081
01:56:12.359 --> 01:56:14.579
Oh, he's like, please let me in.

3082
01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:15.239
Yeah.

3083
01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:16.680
I know.

3084
01:56:16.739 --> 01:56:17.640
No, he prays.

3085
01:56:17.699 --> 01:56:18.479
He's about to pray.

3086
01:56:18.539 --> 01:56:20.880
He says, all right, dad, I'm going to do it.

3087
01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:23.939
And that says so much, doesn't it?

3088
01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:24.539
All right, dad.

3089
01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:25.619
And then he's praying.

3090
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:28.140
And we've never seen that in Star Trek.

3091
01:56:28.260 --> 01:56:31.439
We've never seen a character do, like he's about to say in our

3092
01:56:31.439 --> 01:56:31.800
father.

3093
01:56:31.859 --> 01:56:33.899
Like he's doing a Christian prayer.

3094
01:56:33.960 --> 01:56:37.500
You know, it's nearly the only reference to Christianity.

3095
01:56:37.560 --> 01:56:38.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3096
01:56:38.939 --> 01:56:39.659
Good.

3097
01:56:39.779 --> 01:56:41.760
Yeah, it's good isn't it?

3098
01:56:41.819 --> 01:56:43.260
Sorry, I pissed off the rest, mate.

3099
01:56:43.319 --> 01:56:44.279
No, but it's interesting.

3100
01:56:44.340 --> 01:56:45.479
I think that is interesting.

3101
01:56:46.140 --> 01:56:50.880
I like the post-religion socialist utopia of Star Trek.

3102
01:56:50.939 --> 01:56:53.699
That's one of the things I like, but I like this.

3103
01:56:53.760 --> 01:56:58.859
Oh, I like the sort of scathing criticism of the Bajoran religion

3104
01:56:58.859 --> 01:57:01.319
as well. and how contradictory it all is.

3105
01:57:01.380 --> 01:57:04.260
But, you know, like, it's important to Kira.

3106
01:57:04.260 --> 01:57:07.619
And so it's important to us, you know, and we respect our kids

3107
01:57:07.619 --> 01:57:08.640
that come with me as well.

3108
01:57:08.699 --> 01:57:09.779
So interesting.

3109
01:57:10.500 --> 01:57:12.119
Boo.

3110
01:57:12.119 --> 01:57:15.479
But so anyone didn't pop out of my boy.

3111
01:57:15.539 --> 01:57:16.079
Yes, thank you.

3112
01:57:16.680 --> 01:57:20.279
Couldn't they have had like one colonist come up as well?

3113
01:57:20.340 --> 01:57:21.300
And that person?

3114
01:57:21.359 --> 01:57:22.859
No, has it?

3115
01:57:22.920 --> 01:57:23.699
No, no.

3116
01:57:23.760 --> 01:57:25.199
Oh, God sakes.

3117
01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:26.939
No, we've got to solve it.

3118
01:57:26.939 --> 01:57:27.659
I have a happy ending.

3119
01:57:27.720 --> 01:57:28.560
We did have the blue man.

3120
01:57:28.619 --> 01:57:30.000
We got a happy ending, didn't we?

3121
01:57:30.060 --> 01:57:31.739
What did he ever do wrong?

3122
01:57:31.800 --> 01:57:32.399
Nothing.

3123
01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:33.539
He just wasn't a regular.

3124
01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:34.800
That's it.

3125
01:57:34.859 --> 01:57:37.680
You do understand that regulars are different from everyone else.

3126
01:57:37.739 --> 01:57:42.420
Not Chad Soutax. didn't talk to her about the salary.

3127
01:57:42.479 --> 01:57:44.159
Bam, you're dead.

3128
01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:48.180
Yeah, or Tasha, but, you know, yeah, she wanted that.

3129
01:57:48.239 --> 01:57:50.279
She thought she was going to have a great career ahead.

3130
01:57:50.340 --> 01:57:53.760
Yeah. and thought that Star Trek was going to be terrible, which

3131
01:57:53.760 --> 01:57:54.600
was a fair bad.

3132
01:57:54.720 --> 01:57:57.359
She's had a great career with Star Trek cruises.

3133
01:57:57.420 --> 01:57:58.020
She does, yeah.

3134
01:57:58.020 --> 01:58:01.859
Running away from Armistice. every single convention.

3135
01:58:01.920 --> 01:58:04.619
Please, everyone, check out the picture.

3136
01:58:04.739 --> 01:58:08.039
Denise Crosby running away from the armous cosplay.

3137
01:58:08.100 --> 01:58:09.539
Best thing ever.

3138
01:58:09.600 --> 01:58:11.579
He's still laughing.

3139
01:58:11.640 --> 01:58:12.479
So good.

3140
01:58:13.020 --> 01:58:15.960
And then we've dissolved to the binary star.

3141
01:58:16.020 --> 01:58:16.859
Gorgeous.

3142
01:58:16.920 --> 01:58:17.340
Yep.

3143
01:58:17.399 --> 01:58:22.140
Enterprise is heading off triumphantly after having solved the

3144
01:58:22.140 --> 01:58:22.439
problem.

3145
01:58:22.500 --> 01:58:26.640
Which is why we're here, after all. talked about Denise Crosby

3146
01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:29.460
across that entire scene, unbelievably, thanks to me.

3147
01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:31.739
But and some mound.

3148
01:58:31.800 --> 01:58:33.659
I just like how he delivers that moment.

3149
01:58:33.720 --> 01:58:35.460
It's really good.

3150
01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:36.359
It's beautiful.

3151
01:58:36.420 --> 01:58:38.340
That is a cracking episode.

3152
01:58:38.399 --> 01:58:39.899
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3153
01:58:39.960 --> 01:58:45.600
If I have to sacrifice the 1st slightly quiet 30 minutes of part

3154
01:58:45.600 --> 01:58:46.020
one.

3155
01:58:46.140 --> 01:58:53.100
The reward is a brilliant part too. and that's rare That is pretty

3156
01:58:53.100 --> 01:58:53.399
rare.

3157
01:58:53.460 --> 01:58:58.439
I think the hit rate for part 2s is probably about 15%, you know?

3158
01:58:58.560 --> 01:59:01.199
Particularly across the season.

3159
01:59:01.260 --> 01:59:03.420
Not a mid-season 2 parter.

3160
01:59:03.479 --> 01:59:06.600
They're often not very good either, but the part one at the end of

3161
01:59:06.600 --> 01:59:10.439
a season and part 2 at the beginning, part 2 is never as good.

3162
01:59:10.500 --> 01:59:13.319
Weirdly enough, you know, the one I compared this to, you know, the

3163
01:59:13.319 --> 01:59:15.720
DS91 where they're also trying to blow up a sun.

3164
01:59:15.779 --> 01:59:17.399
They didn't do it, did they?

3165
01:59:17.460 --> 01:59:20.340
They did a part one and then technically they did another part one

3166
01:59:20.340 --> 01:59:22.319
at the start of 7 and then the part one.

3167
01:59:22.439 --> 01:59:23.100
Yeah, that's right.

3168
01:59:23.100 --> 01:59:25.199
They gave it 2 episodes worth of buildup.

3169
01:59:25.500 --> 01:59:30.300
Because usually, yeah, it's like, oh, how the fuck do we get out?

3170
01:59:30.359 --> 01:59:31.140
Yeah, that's right.

3171
01:59:31.199 --> 01:59:31.680
That's right.

3172
01:59:31.739 --> 01:59:34.979
But this is very carefully planned and laid across the entire

3173
01:59:34.979 --> 01:59:37.020
remaining season.

3174
01:59:37.079 --> 01:59:39.359
I mean, I would have been guns blazing for the rest of the season

3175
01:59:39.359 --> 01:59:41.520
after this, sip I'd have watched it originally.

3176
01:59:41.579 --> 01:59:43.979
Episode 2 has started and there are dogs.

3177
01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:44.579
Our dogs.

3178
01:59:44.640 --> 01:59:46.979
But I think they might be space doc ones.

3179
01:59:47.039 --> 01:59:48.840
They just, oh, yeah.

3180
01:59:48.840 --> 01:59:50.640
In Starbase one.

3181
01:59:50.699 --> 01:59:51.300
A bit sniffing.

3182
01:59:51.359 --> 01:59:51.960
He doesn't like them.

3183
01:59:52.020 --> 01:59:53.880
I'm putting in that reason.

3184
01:59:53.939 --> 01:59:55.800
That's probably good head cannon.

3185
01:59:55.859 --> 01:59:57.779
Well, I think that was magnificent.

3186
01:59:57.899 --> 01:59:59.340
It was really great.

3187
01:59:59.399 --> 02:00:00.180
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3188
02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:05.279
And it was quite nice because we've done like the individual

3189
02:00:05.279 --> 02:00:05.939
horror one.

3190
02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:11.460
We've done the Christina Chong Fairytale Princess one, which is

3191
02:00:11.460 --> 02:00:14.279
you know, what Strange New Worlds does a lot, sort of offbeat

3192
02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:15.420
episodes.

3193
02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:19.439
We done the music all, which I thought were very well.

3194
02:00:19.500 --> 02:00:20.279
We did that Pirate one?

3195
02:00:20.340 --> 02:00:21.300
Comedy pirate one.

3196
02:00:21.359 --> 02:00:27.119
So they have all been sort of like one off TNG, but better

3197
02:00:27.119 --> 02:00:28.199
episodes.

3198
02:00:28.260 --> 02:00:32.460
So it was really nice to watch something substantial where they're

3199
02:00:32.460 --> 02:00:36.539
pulling together a lot of mostly character, but some plot things

3200
02:00:36.539 --> 02:00:38.880
and where they're certain things out for the future.

3201
02:00:38.939 --> 02:00:40.439
And they do it really well.

3202
02:00:40.500 --> 02:00:41.100
Yeah.

3203
02:00:41.159 --> 02:00:42.600
For me, it's the spectacle.

3204
02:00:43.140 --> 02:00:50.880
There's a few great moments of comedy with Scotty and Pelia.

3205
02:00:50.939 --> 02:00:53.279
For God's sakes, I get her name in my head.

3206
02:00:53.340 --> 02:00:55.500
She's met the fucking doctor for God's sake.

3207
02:00:55.560 --> 02:00:57.420
Pelio and Scotty.

3208
02:00:57.479 --> 02:01:00.600
There's some lovely character moments peppered about, but it's

3209
02:01:00.600 --> 02:01:03.960
just from the last 10 minutes to the whole of the 2nd episode.

3210
02:01:04.020 --> 02:01:06.180
It is just a feast for the eyes.

3211
02:01:06.239 --> 02:01:09.359
And there's now wrong with that.

3212
02:01:09.420 --> 02:01:11.159
Absolutely not.

3213
02:01:20.220 --> 02:01:22.859
All right, it's the end of the episode and it's time for us to

3214
02:01:22.859 --> 02:01:24.359
work out where we're going next.

3215
02:01:24.539 --> 02:01:28.920
Yes, I would like to take us to the original series, please

3216
02:01:28.920 --> 02:01:33.479
because it's been about 3 pages on the untied Star Trek website.

3217
02:01:33.539 --> 02:01:35.579
About 15 episodes ago.

3218
02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:39.119
It's, I think it's 12 episodes ago that we did the empath and I

3219
02:01:39.119 --> 02:01:42.060
think probably PTSD has prevented us from going back.

3220
02:01:42.119 --> 02:01:44.699
I mean, I keep taking us to the 90s.

3221
02:01:44.760 --> 02:01:46.680
You keep taking us to Canada.

3222
02:01:46.739 --> 02:01:47.159
Yeah, yeah.

3223
02:01:47.159 --> 02:01:48.899
It's like we're avoiding the 60s.

3224
02:01:48.960 --> 02:01:49.979
And there's good stuff.

3225
02:01:50.039 --> 02:01:50.579
There is.

3226
02:01:50.640 --> 02:01:52.020
And also terrible stuff.

3227
02:01:52.020 --> 02:01:53.760
It's interesting what we're going to get.

3228
02:01:53.880 --> 02:01:56.579
Now, I do have a stipulation. is I want to do a particular

3229
02:01:56.579 --> 02:01:57.060
season.

3230
02:01:57.119 --> 02:01:58.619
There's only 3 seasons.

3231
02:01:58.680 --> 02:01:59.520
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3232
02:01:59.520 --> 02:02:00.659
Unlike who is, I'll get one.

3233
02:02:00.720 --> 02:02:02.039
I want series one.

3234
02:02:02.100 --> 02:02:02.640
Okay.

3235
02:02:02.640 --> 02:02:04.319
Because we've done very little of Siri as well.

3236
02:02:04.380 --> 02:02:06.000
All right. generally very good.

3237
02:02:06.060 --> 02:02:07.319
So, you ready?

3238
02:02:07.380 --> 02:02:11.880
Yep. let's go Oh, we're doing it.

3239
02:02:11.939 --> 02:02:12.720
We're doing it.

3240
02:02:12.779 --> 02:02:13.920
You're not touching it again.

3241
02:02:14.039 --> 02:02:14.939
We're doing it.

3242
02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:16.079
Say what it is.

3243
02:02:16.140 --> 02:02:17.279
Say what it is.

3244
02:02:17.340 --> 02:02:21.180
Season one, episode 18 Arena.

3245
02:02:21.239 --> 02:02:23.520
Oh, come on, you couldn't have...

3246
02:02:23.520 --> 02:02:24.600
Have you designed this?

3247
02:02:24.659 --> 02:02:27.359
Have you added an algorithm to this?

3248
02:02:27.420 --> 02:02:28.199
Picorina.

3249
02:02:28.380 --> 02:02:30.899
I can, but I haven't.

3250
02:02:30.960 --> 02:02:31.920
No, we're doing that.

3251
02:02:31.979 --> 02:02:33.479
You know, doing it again.

3252
02:02:33.539 --> 02:02:33.779
Yeah.

3253
02:02:33.840 --> 02:02:38.699
There's so little gone, but we're going from gone to gone. slightly

3254
02:02:38.699 --> 02:02:39.359
less gory.

3255
02:02:39.420 --> 02:02:41.340
So a bit sunnier, perhaps.

3256
02:02:41.399 --> 02:02:41.760
Yes.

3257
02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:44.939
Oh, I think William Shunner gets his top off by the end of the

3258
02:02:44.939 --> 02:02:45.300
episode.

3259
02:02:45.359 --> 02:02:46.140
I can't remember.

3260
02:02:46.199 --> 02:02:47.939
But I'm going to challenge you.

3261
02:02:48.840 --> 02:02:54.359
I think that you should also watch Terrarium. the hell is that?

3262
02:02:54.420 --> 02:03:00.659
That is the episode in series 3 of Strange New Worlds where we

3263
02:03:00.659 --> 02:03:09.000
redo Arena, but with Ortegas, and a single gone on a planet.

3264
02:03:09.300 --> 02:03:17.279
And it's also a test being engineered by the Metrons, who we also

3265
02:03:17.279 --> 02:03:17.699
see.

3266
02:03:17.760 --> 02:03:20.279
I will do it on one condition.

3267
02:03:20.340 --> 02:03:25.380
And that is, it's slightly unfair to compare something that was

3268
02:03:25.380 --> 02:03:26.760
made in the 60s.

3269
02:03:26.939 --> 02:03:29.579
I know, I know. to something that was made in 2024.

3270
02:03:29.819 --> 02:03:30.420
Yeah.

3271
02:03:30.420 --> 02:03:34.560
So I certainly won't be going down that route of saying, well, this

3272
02:03:34.560 --> 02:03:39.060
is a better production and all of this.

3273
02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:43.739
I'll take them both on their own terms of when they were made and

3274
02:03:43.739 --> 02:03:44.939
see what they do differently.

3275
02:03:45.060 --> 02:03:53.159
I still think, I have to say that terrarium is better, even if you

3276
02:03:53.159 --> 02:03:57.539
grade on a curve, even if you hold, you know, the time period

3277
02:03:57.539 --> 02:04:01.979
differently, because I think that, um, it tells a better story.

3278
02:04:02.039 --> 02:04:03.659
I haven't seen Arena for years.

3279
02:04:03.659 --> 02:04:04.500
I haven't either.

3280
02:04:04.680 --> 02:04:05.279
I could be wrong.

3281
02:04:05.340 --> 02:04:08.819
I may well be surprised and there's a reason why everyone...

3282
02:04:08.880 --> 02:04:10.380
One is pretty wonderful.

3283
02:04:10.439 --> 02:04:13.979
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. before he's gone, oh.

3284
02:04:14.039 --> 02:04:15.899
Yeah, before his...

3285
02:04:16.020 --> 02:04:17.939
I'm out.

3286
02:04:18.000 --> 02:04:18.539
Yeah.

3287
02:04:18.600 --> 02:04:19.800
But okay, I'll do both.

3288
02:04:19.859 --> 02:04:21.479
Yeah, that'll be an interesting chat, I think.

3289
02:04:21.539 --> 02:04:24.300
But Arena, I mean, it's a celebrated classic.

3290
02:04:24.359 --> 02:04:26.640
We don't do those all the time, do we?

3291
02:04:26.699 --> 02:04:27.720
No, absolutely, we don't.

3292
02:04:27.840 --> 02:04:29.399
Let's do it Brilliant.

3293
02:04:38.460 --> 02:04:41.520
You've been listening to Untitled Star Trek Project with Joe Ford

3294
02:04:41.520 --> 02:04:42.720
and Nathan Bottomley.

3295
02:04:42.779 --> 02:04:46.079
We're online at Untitled Star Trek Project.com where you can find

3296
02:04:46.079 --> 02:04:48.779
subscription links and links to our social media accounts.

3297
02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:52.739
Our podcast artwork is by Kayla Ciceran, and the theme was

3298
02:04:52.739 --> 02:04:54.420
composed by Cameron Lam.

3299
02:04:54.479 --> 02:04:59.159
This episode was recorded on the 27th of September 2025 and

3300
02:04:59.159 --> 02:05:00.840
released on the 3rd of October.

3301
02:05:00.899 --> 02:05:06.000
We'll see you next time for Star Trek, the original series, Arena.

3302
02:05:21.539 --> 02:05:24.060
Okay, we're testing.

3303
02:05:24.119 --> 02:05:26.340
Yes, hello, gone.

3304
02:05:26.340 --> 02:05:28.500
Yeah, cool.

3305
02:05:28.560 --> 02:05:31.079
My God, Nathan, they're in my arm.

3306
02:05:34.020 --> 02:05:36.779
It's the we're in all over again.

3307
02:05:36.840 --> 02:05:38.159
Are you going to get three?

3308
02:05:38.220 --> 02:05:38.939
Yeah, that's true.

3309
02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:40.500
Yeah, you hadn't seen Alien three.

3310
02:05:40.560 --> 02:05:42.420
I wondered where it was first, though, wouldn't it?

3311
02:05:42.479 --> 02:05:44.399
Cartly X. there anything before that?

3312
02:05:44.460 --> 02:05:45.060
No.

3313
02:05:45.119 --> 02:05:50.340
People kind of suspect that maybe, because, I mean, you know

3314
02:05:50.340 --> 02:05:54.060
Ridley Scott was a BBC designer, he's English.

3315
02:05:54.119 --> 02:05:58.439
Oh, so he could well have watched it.

3316
02:06:00.479 --> 02:06:05.880
I mean, I mean, you know, like it is just alien has a lifecycle

3317
02:06:05.880 --> 02:06:07.319
similar to insects.

3318
02:06:07.380 --> 02:06:08.100
Do you know what I mean?

3319
02:06:08.159 --> 02:06:10.079
Like it's a sort of thing that you could just come up

3320
02:06:10.079 --> 02:06:12.420
coincidentally with gross.

3321
02:06:12.899 --> 02:06:14.399
Yeah, it's much grosser.

3322
02:06:14.520 --> 02:06:15.659
Yeah, all right.

3323
02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:18.600
I think we're recording and transcribing.

3324
02:06:18.659 --> 02:06:18.899
Look.

3325
02:06:20.159 --> 02:06:22.500
It's not doing very good job.

3326
02:06:23.880 --> 02:06:26.939
The thing on Spotify does amazing.

3327
02:06:27.060 --> 02:06:29.880
Actually, Apple is the most accurate that I've seen.

3328
02:06:29.939 --> 02:06:30.960
Apple does pretty good.

3329
02:06:31.020 --> 02:06:34.380
Yeah, just a few names where you'll misspell them, but it just

3330
02:06:34.380 --> 02:06:34.800
doesn't know.

3331
02:06:34.859 --> 02:06:39.600
I mean, with a 1000 episodes or, you know, 300 episodes, which is

3332
02:06:39.600 --> 02:06:44.340
what I have in Flights Entirety, there's no way, or even 166

3333
02:06:44.340 --> 02:06:46.140
episodes that we've currently got.

3334
02:06:46.260 --> 02:06:48.060
No, I just like to see that up.

3335
02:06:49.199 --> 02:06:51.779
Yeah, aspirational.

3336
02:06:51.960 --> 02:06:53.520
It is?

3337
02:06:55.859 --> 02:06:56.699
Do you think we should?

3338
02:06:56.760 --> 02:06:57.659
Yeah, ready.

3339
02:06:57.720 --> 02:06:58.260
Yeah, okay.

3340
02:06:58.319 --> 02:06:58.859
Okay.

3341
02:07:00.060 --> 02:07:02.640
Hey, Joe. Hi.