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Hey, Joe. Hi.

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So, we are back in Star Trek, the Next Generation's imperial phase.

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This, for me, all hail.

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Season three.

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This for me is Star Trek at its greatest.

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This is what really brought me in.

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I 1st watched series one and loved that, but obviously it was terrible.

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But watching series 3 is what sort of cemented me as a fan.

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And that season, maybe 34 and 5, perhaps 6, I think, is, you know, as good as Star Trek gets.

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But, uh, like everything is just sort of going incredibly well.

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And this, I think, is really remarkable in that it absolutely highlights all of Star Trek's flaws and makes fun of them. comments on them a lot.

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Yeah, yeah.

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In some great dialogue.

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Yeah.

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So this is deja Q, which is about halfway through series three.

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We have had 3 Q episodes before this, Encounter at FarPoint, hide and queue in series one, and Qhu in series two.

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And so this becomes an annual thing, doesn't it?

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We get John Delancey back as queue each year.

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They're basically getting better and better, these cute episodes as they go along.

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And in fact, I think they're putting in the punters now because this is the 2nd highest rated episode of series 3 after yesterday's enterprise.

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I think John Delancey, because he was there in those previous episodes, people are starting to go, oh, man, he was a really fun character.

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I mean don't get me wrong.

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This season's getting sort of 10000000 viewers, which is the sort of viewing figures that DS9 and Voyager would have wept over if they'd have ever got them, you know?

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But these are pushing towards 12 million.

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This is yesterday's enterprise, which is huge.

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That's huge for genre television in America.

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But I remember it being this big.

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Like I remember that time, like when this was airing, how huge this was.

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You know, this was my last year at university, like I was an adult by this point.

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And, you know, like I remember getting tapes from the US because they hadn't been shown here and seeing episodes with friend of the podcast, James Farrow, you know, showing me all of this sort of stuff.

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And like this, you know, The Q trajectory, this is where Q lands, I think, properly.

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So in the 1st episode, he's here to judge humanity and he's threatening and odd, but he's not funny the way that he is here.

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He's certainly not funny in hide and cue.

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He's threatening in Qhu and Qhu benefits enormously from the introduction of the Borg.

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Like that makes it a really proper event.

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And he's great in it.

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Rot Berry in encounter a PowerPoint.

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Roddenberry is doing that sort of almighty god figure that he loved in TOS.

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And then they handed the role to John Delancey, who's really a funny bloke.

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And I think they changed the trajectory very quickly because in hide and cue, even though a lot of the comedy doesn't land, There is a lot of comedy in that episode.

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Right.

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So they're sort of trying to play to his strengths.

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And then calm Q-hoo.

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There's a quote on memory alpha where they say Maurice Hurley saw Q as he always wanted Q to be somebody that was teaching humanity a lesson.

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So that's absolutely what Q-hoo is about him saying, you know, it's a dangerous place out there.

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You know, be careful because you're going to get a bloody nose every now and again.

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Oh, by the way, here's the Borg.

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Whereas the creators of series 3, their take on cue was that he was a trickster and that he would come along and just sort of sturdy ants nest every now and again and have fun with the people on the Enterprise, which is basically what we do from this point on.

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Yeah.

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So what we have here with Star Trek the Next Generation is because it's a show about competent people solving space problems and because everyone's their job.

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And because it's the 24th century and we're all space people, we're not really relaxed, we don't do pop culture references.

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You know, everyone has a bit of a stick up there, Bart.

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That means that when Q comes along, his job is to puncture all of that and undermine it.

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And so he just annoys everyone. very well.

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And so, like, that's a weakness of Star Trek, the Next Generation, that space people thing.

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Like, I think that the the idea of competent people solving space problems is what Star Trek is, you know, that's what the original show was.

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That's what Strange New Worlds is doing.

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But for like 179 episodes, that is a bit wearying. if that's all we are doing and no one's sure.

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We've had moments.

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When we did disaster, there were moments where people would chill.

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We were talking about Riker in that episode and people were like, we were like, oh, it's so refreshing to see the charm of this actor, this man coming through on the screen and not just being some robot going through the procedural.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But I mean, I mean, at this moment, like this episode has them solving a space problem, which is an asteroid is going to crash into... the moon is going to crash into the planet Briel 4.

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Let it happen.

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She's very boring.

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And there's no way that at this time that would have been sufficient premise for a Star Trek, the next generation episode, because in season 3, we're doing things like yesterday's enterprise and the offspring and sins of the father and captain's holiday, hollow pursuits, the most toys, we've got Sarek, you know, the enemy.

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All of these things are huge and they're all really super memorable, at least for me, because this is where I kind of came in.

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So, so the Brielle 4 plot is boring, and it is the sort of thing that they would, you know, give a 5 minute scene to in a lower deck episode, if that, you know, in order to make fun of it.

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And so...

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Just 2 of you on this move?

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Blow it up.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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So, so it is like it's kind of making fun of Star Trek by having such a kind of boring and routine problem.

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Um, but then it gives Q the role of fixing the problem that they have, which I think is really great.

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So this is an episode where Q is human, naturally as a newly minted human, who else to get him to follow around the ship, but data, and the 2 of them work really well together.

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Yeah, it's really...

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This is the data.

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We've done a lot, TNG, and I have not seen a lot of the data that everybody fell in love with.

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This is it.

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I love their relationship in this and how good, isn't it?

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They're teaching each other what it's like to be human because neither of them are very good at it.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But I think, you know, like there is something here as well that is a little bit touching.

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Like the end of it, I think, works really well because you've got Hugh realising that he's a failure as a human and the data who isn't human is able to be a better human than him.

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And he kind of sees kind of the moral value of being human in a way.

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And so he just goes off and sacrifices himself.

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And he kind of refuses to make it a noble self-sacrifice either.

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He keeps undermining it.

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It's really terrific.

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Like I think it is really quite good.

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The best line you said earlier, everyone's got a bug up there, but no one can really say their feelings about people.

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And unfortunately, you know, they spent enough time with Q now that they actually do secretly care about him a little bit.

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So the best line that the whole episode is where Picard goes, tractor him in, you know, it is a perfectly good shuttle.

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We don't want to lose that.

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I think that's really great because he's making an excuse to Riker because he's doing it because he really cares.

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It's, and it's a, it's a rare moment of subtext.

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Very rare.

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Well, I have to say as well, like, I can only imagine that the producers and that were just delighted at the episodes that were being churned out at this point were halfway through this year, and like you said, it is one gem after another after 2 very inconsistent to poor years of next generation.

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And at this point, they're just, it feels confident.

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There's just something in the air that they can do anything right now and, you know, bringing in this sitcom actor at the end of this episode and completely rejecting the entire main cast, the climax of the story.

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You know, it just feels like they can do it.

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And from scene to scene, I just found this really funny.

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I was watching this at 4 AM this morning.

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I woke up my arm because I was laughing so hard at parts.

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And the lines are, they're not always like, you know, gut splittingly funny.

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But I do think there's a lot of clever lines in this and you give it to people like Whoopi Goldberg, John Delancey, you know?

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Even Gates McFadden gets a comedy line in this, for God's sake.

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I think she's really good in this episode.

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He says to me, what is it?

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Have they exiled you back to this ship or something like that?

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I was like, oh please.

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No, I just thought this was delightful.

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Of all the next chance we've done so far.

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This would rank in my top 3 that we've done.

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I love watching this back.

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And thank God, it's one where I said was good and it was still good.

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You know, time has not lied to me.

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No, no.

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All right. do you think?

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Well, we shall go in, but before we do, I just want to give you a little peek into what we could have had had the original production team had their way.

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Michael Piller recalls on memory alpha, our 1st take on it was that Q lost his powers, came aboard and developed a whole story about how we were about to come into war with the Klingons.

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Where's that come from?

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It turns out that Q didn't really lose his powers after all.

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And he was just playing with us, pulling our strings just so that he could make himself a hero, become an officer and prove his value.

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That would gut the entire episode of its emotional work, right?

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But they realise this.

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It goes, it wasn't a bad story, but ultimately we sat down with Gene and Rick and Gene said, my God, in a moment of, you know, just realising what Star Trek is about.

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He says, if you're going to do a story godlike and brought to earth, then do it.

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Do a story about what it's like to lose everything that you are and having to discover your own humanity.

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He kind of threw cold water on us and suggested we do it straightforward and that's what we did.

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We made it a comedy.

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We made it fun, but I think it has some extraordinary things to say about humanity.

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Good on Eugene Roddenbury because that original one wouldn't have been as fun for one.

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It wouldn't have been as moving for another.

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And it just wouldn't have felt like Star Trek in the way that this does.

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Yeah, this is properly good in Star Trek, isn't it?

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I just think it's just an ingenious premise to take a god, make him a human and see a day in his life.

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Well, let's go and sing a day in his life.

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I think we should.

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I'll kind of see.

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Five, four, three, two, one and we're off.

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So we don't have the usual opening shot.

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This is a new effect though.

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They're splashing out.

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Yeah, they're feeling confident.

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No, no, no, no.

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It's a new effect for the for the high definition remastering.

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Oh, they were definitely feeling flash for that.

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Yeah, yeah, because it was much later.

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So here we are in the very boring Star Trek, the Next Generation, environmental disaster storyline.

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Yes.

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Now, again, it feels like it does feel like this is what the episode's going to be like for a couple of minutes, doesn't it?

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We're like, 0 God, no, please.

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And look at these people, like fucking hell, what were they thinking?

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Like the close-up, really.

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I can't they're in the distance.

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Oh boy.

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No, there they are.

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Look, look, look.

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So it's the mouth.

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It's the mouth. are so bad.

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Like they've got these tiny little mouths.

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And so they've got latex covering their mouths.

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They just look stupid.

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I know they're facing planetary destruction, but they just have a sombre look about them, don't they?

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I can't imagine them smiling too much.

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Yeah, it's just...

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I don't know. dimples.

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Oh, those horrible look.

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The mouth is like one of those leeches.

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Oh no, it's horrible. it's really gross Imagine the 2 of them kissing.

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I know you see, there's all sorts of things that they're not going to be able to do with those tiny mouths.

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It's terrible.

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They're just dreadful.

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Could we possibly care about these people?

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Like, I just couldn't bring myself to care about them.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And that's part of the problem, I think.

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Like you would do something.

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If you're a good rider, you would just do something that made them seem human, that made them seem relatable, that made them seem relaxed.

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Instead, they're just sort of exposition dumps.

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They're explaining the situation here Now, like, there's plenty of technobabble here, but I do like, uh, he does the technobabble, and then he says it would be like an ant trying to push a tricycle, which I think, okay.

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They love a good...

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I love a good metador in the next generation.

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What they do do here, though, is what you talked about last week.

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No, sorry, week before in Meridian, is they get the focus right, right?

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Well they've got they've got the space problem here.

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But actually, the focus of the episode is cute with the space problem as something for them to sort out on the side, whereas in Meridian, it was a big space problem and the romance was an afterfall. that's right.

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That's right.

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Well, I mean, this doesn't have a B plot, does it?

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I mean, maybe the space problem's the beep part.

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I think it is kind of...

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Why does Geordie La Forge constantly shout out its technobabble lines in this?

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Is it just to add some urgency to that dull plot?

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Yeah, I think, like, I always sort of view, um, he's the guy on location and oh, here we go.

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So this is John Delantey actually naked.

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He's trying to see...

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He tries to shoot the scene with a modesty pouch on, but it can't work and so he just drops his robe and he's got his dick out, apparently, in reality.

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The actors.

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Nobody knew.

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Patrick Stewart was like, what is going on on my bridge?

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You couldn't do that now.

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Like, this is not in 90.

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You absolutely wouldn't be able to get away with that.

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You're in trouble for that.

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Yeah.

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It's a funny animal, total.

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Couldn't they do a dramatic zoom on Stuart's face when it happened?

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Oh, dude, but like, thank God he's here though, right?

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You know, after that.

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Two minutes of technobabble.

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He shows some awareness of the genre because he smiles and says red alert.

217
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You know, he's kind of aware that he's playing into the opening credits.

218
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You know, as a formal, like I always kind of think that he should have a little bit more awareness that he's on a TV show as an omnipotent deity.

219
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And obviously he's not that right now, but he certainly knows what's going to happen.

220
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I think it's so funny that effectively, he's a child that's been so naughty.

221
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He's had all of his toys taken off him by his parents. you know?

222
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Yeah.

223
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And as we see later with the, I forget what that cloud creature's called.

224
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Calamarine.

225
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Yeah.

226
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So if they're not watching him, He was about to do something terrible sort of at the end of the episode, wasn't he?

227
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

228
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But it's so nice to have a naughty character in the next generation.

229
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It's like you said, you know, with Marina so.

230
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Everyone's so bloody serious in this thing.

231
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It's nice to see someone having fun.

232
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Yeah.

233
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Like Star Trek should be fun and it can be fun.

234
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And anyone that says it shouldn't be fun.

235
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Wow.

236
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Well, I mean, that's what Strange New World is doing.

237
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Like Strange New World is properly fun.

238
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Like those, it has funny episodes.

239
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It has funny lines.

240
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It has genuinely relaxed and likeable characters.

241
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Star Trek the Next Generation eventually has relaxed and likeable characters.

242
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I mean, I like these characters, but they're not very. change chill.

243
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Change that opening captain's log there.

244
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He goes, you know, we've still got no idea of the cause of this environmental disaster, but queues come along now.

245
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So the episode's going to get pretty good.

246
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

247
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I'm not sure about this outfit.

248
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Are you looking at his dick in this outfit?

249
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I couldn't take my eyes off his stick.

250
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And of the other queue when it came wrong later in the episode.

251
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I mean, that is a terrible design, isn't it?

252
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It's not good, is it?

253
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I don't know what they're thinking.

254
00:17:07.740 --> 00:17:15.119
We've watched episodes where people have been cinched so much that their dicks vanish and now there is ones that accentuate everything.

255
00:17:15.180 --> 00:17:17.279
Well, I don't think it accentuates it.

256
00:17:17.339 --> 00:17:21.900
I think it is kind of held in a bit by the costume, but it is kind of terrible.

257
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It's not flattering either too.

258
00:17:23.940 --> 00:17:26.759
It's Les Landau directing this episode.

259
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We've done a couple of it so far, you know, he's our sort of box standard.

260
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Get Leslie.

261
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He'll do it on budget, director.

262
00:17:32.579 --> 00:17:35.640
But I actually think he gauges the tone of this really well.

263
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Yeah, well, I like, so I like this.

264
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So he's...

265
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I start before you defrocks. a lumping human being.

266
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That's how I feel every day, if I want to.

267
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Troy actually looks quite amused by all of this.

268
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Yeah, yeah.

269
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She gets a bit of a zinger in a bit later where she says, oh, I am sensing something.

270
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I would normally call it being terrified.

271
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You know, she's terrible later yet, but...

272
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The conclusion I draw later, which is correct, he became human because he knew he's pissed off all of these species and there is no production.

273
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No chance that they might protect him if he's charming enough.

274
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What he dismissed was the Picard face palm meme.

275
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Did you notice that?

276
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Yes, I did.

277
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He's like, are you not aware we've got all this boring tet babble to get through with no time for this queue?

278
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But that's the actual, so it's great to know that the face palm meme is a reaction to John Delancey's cue.

279
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Yeah.

280
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Nah, that name has gone on to have a life of his own, isn't it?

281
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Cue the miserable cue, the desperate...

282
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What must I do to convince you people?

283
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Die.

284
00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:59.400
No, it goes, have you eaten any good books lately, Worf?

285
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In fact, there's a load of great gags at water expense sorts.

286
00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:06.779
Have you never heard of the boy who cried wharf?

287
00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:07.980
It goes a war boy.

288
00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:12.240
I actually think those lines are pretty terrible and we are grading on a curve.

289
00:19:12.299 --> 00:19:15.539
No, I think they're very far offence.

290
00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.059
No, no, no. was laughing as well.

291
00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:21.960
I was laughing as well disappointed me, Jean-Luc. very disappointed.

292
00:19:22.019 --> 00:19:23.759
That's really funny.

293
00:19:23.819 --> 00:19:24.900
That's really bad.

294
00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:26.940
And then the complaint about being claustrophobic.

295
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Like, just how annoying he is as a human and how self-concerned he is.

296
00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:32.160
This is a great shot.

297
00:19:32.220 --> 00:19:37.619
Where he, yeah, but where he now lays out all of the problems with being a human.

298
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Do you think so?

299
00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:44.160
that he doesn't want to, he has to not be naked, like some stupid thing about human morality.

300
00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:46.319
It's like I'm going to walk around with these clothes on.

301
00:19:46.380 --> 00:19:51.480
You know, not sure we could have, you know, put things in front of his bits throughout the entire episode.

302
00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.279
I love how he says having a breath and then having a pimple?

303
00:19:56.339 --> 00:20:01.500
No, he says bad breath and having to bathe, but I think he looks at wolf.

304
00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:04.680
Yeah, I think wolf should have come into shot a bit earlier there.

305
00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:11.400
But it is pretty great having him stalking around the outside of the turbo lift and then eventually coming face to face with wharf is trying.

306
00:20:11.460 --> 00:20:12.539
That's pretty good.

307
00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:14.940
And now he's decided he should have been a Klingon.

308
00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:20.519
He's really basically a Klingon, and then later on he's going, as a fellow Klingon, speaking to the captain on my behalf.

309
00:20:20.579 --> 00:20:21.660
It's like really great.

310
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He's so annoying.

311
00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:30.539
And the eternally grateful, I would be eternally grateful, which admittedly doesn't mean as much as it used to, which again, I think is a brilliant line.

312
00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:35.099
I know more than you could win a beauty contest.

313
00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:48.119
I do know what you mean because there is a scene in Purgatory Shadow that we did where Garak tries to convince Worf to put in a commendation for him, to Captain Cisco, and it is much wittier and better written than this.

314
00:20:48.180 --> 00:20:50.400
Yeah, for instance.

315
00:20:50.460 --> 00:20:52.799
Yeah, he has so much charisma.

316
00:20:52.859 --> 00:20:53.819
Yeah that's it.

317
00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:55.440
He could spin a lot.

318
00:20:55.500 --> 00:20:57.240
Yeah, terrible line and make it very funny.

319
00:20:57.299 --> 00:20:59.640
The boy who cried wolf.

320
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Yeah that's terrible.

321
00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:08.160
Just immediately how annoyed he is, like immediately he's locked up.

322
00:21:08.220 --> 00:21:10.740
Although, we've seen the media very often, do we?

323
00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:11.460
Sorry?

324
00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:12.839
We're in the we're in the brick now.

325
00:21:12.900 --> 00:21:14.700
Oh, he goes, Romulan.

326
00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:18.420
I should have said Romulan.

327
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Oh, boy.

328
00:21:21.779 --> 00:21:25.500
We get Don Delancey back as Q. Remember?

329
00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:28.559
We did that episode at the end of series 2 of Picard.

330
00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:30.180
Ah, yeah.

331
00:21:30.180 --> 00:21:33.180
They absolutely had...

332
00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:50.819
Well, no, it's not, but he's great. and making making this about the relationship between the 2 of them, because I think that was always a thing, and that's why Q doesn't properly work on Voyager, and obviously doesn't work in that shitty episode of Deep Space 9.

333
00:21:50.880 --> 00:22:08.339
Um, Because it's Picard, you know, like he's Picard's friend and things like tapestry, where he does this whole thing just to teach Picard about respecting his own youth, you know, like, um, it's so good.

334
00:22:08.460 --> 00:22:09.660
I do agree with you.

335
00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:16.319
I do agree that his story is with Jean-Lou Picard, but I think he has great chemistry, John DeLancey, with Kate Mulgrew.

336
00:22:16.380 --> 00:22:18.900
So I'll wash those scenes till the cows come home.

337
00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:25.200
He lives in the bulk of where he's really sexist the whole time and you kind of think, come on.

338
00:22:25.259 --> 00:22:27.359
Yes, Madam Captain.

339
00:22:27.420 --> 00:22:29.940
No, but Death Witch is a great episode, though.

340
00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.400
It really does have a lot to say that episode.

341
00:22:32.460 --> 00:22:38.880
I hope we get it one day Oh, dear, look, they've somehow managed to make the bridge even brighter than it normally is.

342
00:22:39.180 --> 00:22:41.400
I have thought that was impossible.

343
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.839
Look at Riker's post and I look at it, it's crutched now.

344
00:22:45.900 --> 00:22:46.680
Look at him.

345
00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:48.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

346
00:22:50.700 --> 00:22:55.079
You know, this HD in this Bright Lion does no one any favours, does it?

347
00:22:55.140 --> 00:22:56.880
No, it's really rough, isn't it?

348
00:22:56.940 --> 00:22:59.640
It looks practically vanished because he's an albino.

349
00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:01.740
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

350
00:23:02.460 --> 00:23:08.279
Oh, here comes the little cloud race that want a tortured Q. Yeah, but it sort of disappears.

351
00:23:08.339 --> 00:23:09.119
Is it done to them?

352
00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:10.440
Has he just been...

353
00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:15.000
He's been playing about them the way they've been tormenting Picard and the Enterprise, I guess.

354
00:23:15.059 --> 00:23:19.079
I mean, you would, wouldn't you, have you had Q's powers?

355
00:23:19.140 --> 00:23:21.660
No, no, I don't think I would torment people.

356
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:23.039
I think I would...

357
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:28.440
Which would be for the beach on a Greek island somewhere and...

358
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:30.839
The whole universe at your disposal.

359
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.180
I don't need the whole universe.

360
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:38.400
He goes, I'm sitting here alone, helpless, ball to tears.

361
00:23:38.460 --> 00:23:41.160
Well, the self-pity thing is really enjoyable.

362
00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:42.000
It's really great.

363
00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:51.779
And just the fact that he's unable to see that his problems are less important than the giant, you know, moon falling out of the sky thing.

364
00:23:51.900 --> 00:23:55.500
Oh, I like the fact that obviously because he's a small bloke.

365
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.019
What they say is IQ's 205 or something like that.

366
00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:03.779
They realise they realise they have a terrible situation and actually he could help.

367
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:05.339
But I love his description.

368
00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:07.920
His description of this terrible thing that he's undergoing.

369
00:24:07.980 --> 00:24:10.740
And Picard just immediately goes, yes, Q, you fell asleep.

370
00:24:10.859 --> 00:24:13.740
The life was oozing out of me.

371
00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:16.200
How terrific.

372
00:24:16.259 --> 00:24:16.980
How do you can you stand?

373
00:24:17.099 --> 00:24:18.299
just goes, yes, you get used to it.

374
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:33.900
Like, the card is really funny here because he's he's not convinced and he absolutely refuses at any point to play along with him, even when Q comes to him in his ready room and says, I'm going to go and just kill myself or whatever.

375
00:24:33.900 --> 00:24:34.559
I'm done.

376
00:24:34.619 --> 00:24:35.940
You know, I am a failure as a human being.

377
00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:36.900
He doesn't help.

378
00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:38.039
He doesn't console him.

379
00:24:38.099 --> 00:24:40.019
He just doesn't engage and it's really good.

380
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:41.819
Like, it's really properly good.

381
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:46.740
And so when he saves him, when he tries to save him, it comes as a great...

382
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:47.160
Yeah.

383
00:24:47.339 --> 00:24:48.960
I love it.

384
00:24:49.019 --> 00:24:51.180
It doesn't happen too often, the characters surprise me.

385
00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:52.980
The next generation.

386
00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.279
And it's great how embarrassed he is about it.

387
00:24:56.339 --> 00:24:59.460
Like, he has to justify himself to Riker. really good.

388
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.039
Just get him out of that fuck. costume.

389
00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:03.839
God, he looks ridiculous.

390
00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:07.319
So bad. even Jake Sisco didn't look that bad.

391
00:25:10.380 --> 00:25:12.180
Oh, date is coming along now.

392
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:18.779
Yeah, so they remember to give this episode some heart, but they do it with the one character that hasn't got a heart.

393
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:20.519
It's wonderful.

394
00:25:20.579 --> 00:25:22.920
Like, he is the character with the most heart.

395
00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:24.539
That's the thing about him, isn't it?

396
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:32.339
There's a line, I remember, in the new Star Trek program guide by Paul Connell Keith topping and mine day.

397
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:36.779
They said it's the one where he says about, I'll say it when it comes up.

398
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:40.440
It's about Q being human and it's something that data's always saw.

399
00:25:40.500 --> 00:25:44.160
And on that page, it's a bit shonky, the line.

400
00:25:44.579 --> 00:25:46.799
But the way Brent Spaner delivers it.

401
00:25:46.859 --> 00:25:47.700
It's gorgeous.

402
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:49.200
It sounds like poetry.

403
00:25:49.259 --> 00:25:50.519
Yeah, yeah.

404
00:25:50.579 --> 00:25:57.720
It's also because he doesn't deliver it with any rancour, you know, like he's not jealous and he's not PC. You know, it's you.

405
00:25:57.779 --> 00:25:58.319
What is it?

406
00:25:58.380 --> 00:26:01.559
You have achieved in dishonour what I have always learned.

407
00:26:01.619 --> 00:26:03.119
Yeah, yeah.

408
00:26:03.180 --> 00:26:04.200
It means you have...

409
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:05.339
Here it is.

410
00:26:05.339 --> 00:26:07.380
I have always... required to be.

411
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:08.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

412
00:26:08.099 --> 00:26:10.200
Which is a bit of a...

413
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:11.579
It's cheap.

414
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:21.720
Look, you get a gray reaction from John DeLancey at lands, and there's a couple of times where people say things to him, and he learns.

415
00:26:21.779 --> 00:26:22.680
Do you know what I mean?

416
00:26:22.740 --> 00:26:30.240
Like the thing about the gods is that they don't care about people and they don't learn and they don't change and they only care about themselves.

417
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:34.559
And you get some of that from Q, but Q properly learns in this episode.

418
00:26:34.619 --> 00:26:39.960
But these things are so sweet because if you had paired him up with any other member of the queue.

419
00:26:40.019 --> 00:26:43.380
The crew, there would have been disdain, you know, and they would have been suspicious.

420
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:44.759
Whereas they don't have none of that.

421
00:26:44.819 --> 00:26:45.660
I have no emotion.

422
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.119
So it's just really cute between the 2 of them.

423
00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:49.140
I really loved it.

424
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.319
For a 2nd I was like, oh, can you join the crew?

425
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.140
Like, I know he won't, but, like, for a bit.

426
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:59.400
Like, I think that Q is affected by what data says about not...

427
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:00.420
That's why I get him the gift of this.

428
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:02.579
Yeah, yeah, the gift, which is great.

429
00:27:03.180 --> 00:27:04.259
He doesn't have to do that, does he?

430
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:05.519
You could just be right see, yeah.

431
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:07.200
Yeah, it's really good.

432
00:27:07.259 --> 00:27:09.900
He gives Riker a little gift as well, isn't he?

433
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:11.039
Picard a cigar.

434
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.940
My lovely friends, thanks for looking after me.

435
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:16.140
I'm off.

436
00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:18.119
Oh, no, here we go.

437
00:27:18.180 --> 00:27:19.140
Technabble City.

438
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.380
Oh, no, he gets a wonderful line about his stomach rumbling, doesn't he?

439
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

440
00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:27.180
No, he's hurt his back at this point. rumbling.

441
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:28.920
I feel your pain cue, aren't you?

442
00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:29.700
Yeah, yeah.

443
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.220
You can't straighten up, can he?

444
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:33.960
He can't even straighten up, yeah.

445
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:38.039
In fact, there's a gag in a minute, right?

446
00:27:38.099 --> 00:27:40.259
which I thought on the page, that's not very funny.

447
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:44.400
You know the whole thing about, I'm hungry, and so he orders 10 desserts.

448
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:46.319
And then that's it.

449
00:27:46.380 --> 00:27:47.460
You don't hear nothing.

450
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.339
And then at the end of the scene, the 2 people are sad in there.

451
00:27:50.339 --> 00:27:51.660
With 10 desserts.

452
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:55.980
And it should be terrible, but actually, because I'd forgotten about the joke at that point. did make me laugh.

453
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:57.480
It is kind of terrible.

454
00:27:58.440 --> 00:27:59.700
The desserts look delicious.

455
00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:00.720
Like, no, hang on.

456
00:28:00.779 --> 00:28:02.339
Remember that for what Japan's are, all right.

457
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:03.599
This is good stuff.

458
00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:05.339
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

459
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:09.839
Oh, change the gravitational constant of the universe.

460
00:28:09.900 --> 00:28:11.160
Now that's how God would think, right?

461
00:28:11.220 --> 00:28:12.660
Yeah, exactly right.

462
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.220
That's how you saw the situation.

463
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:14.940
That's a good idea.

464
00:28:15.059 --> 00:28:16.680
Like, it gives Geordie the idea.

465
00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:27.119
So by putting as much of the of the moon in the front lobe of the Enterprise's warp field, they make it possible to move it.

466
00:28:27.180 --> 00:28:34.140
And it's described, we see a visual of it, and it's described in a simpler enough way that we kind of get it.

467
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.059
And so with the technobabble.

468
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.339
All that has to happen is we need to know what the characters want.

469
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:39.299
Do you know what I mean?

470
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:40.380
Like what the characters want.

471
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:41.160
What are they trying to do?

472
00:28:41.220 --> 00:28:43.980
And the technobabble is just there to make it sound like they...

473
00:28:43.980 --> 00:28:45.119
I'm glad there's a visual, though.

474
00:28:45.539 --> 00:28:50.400
Because I'll stop listening, just like I, just stop listening to you just then when you were saying, oh, I don't know why.

475
00:28:50.460 --> 00:28:51.299
My brain just turns off.

476
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:52.440
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

477
00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:53.460
Do you know what I think, right?

478
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:58.859
I think that the actors love working with John Talazi so much because when they see that he's in it, you know, on the castles at the front.

479
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.079
They like, oh, we're can have some fun in this episode.

480
00:29:01.140 --> 00:29:03.000
So look at Gates McFadden here.

481
00:29:03.059 --> 00:29:04.859
Yeah, she's really getting into it.

482
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:06.599
Like, she's enjoying herding him.

483
00:29:06.660 --> 00:29:09.599
Your bedside manner is admirable, doctor.

484
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:15.480
But again, I think with Gates, when Gates knows what the lines are doing.

485
00:29:15.539 --> 00:29:20.940
She's fine and it's when she's given exposition that she's really shit at her.

486
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.019
She's given exposition 80% of the time, Mr. Trump.

487
00:29:25.019 --> 00:29:25.559
I know.

488
00:29:25.619 --> 00:29:28.319
She could have been the best character on this show.

489
00:29:28.380 --> 00:29:30.000
Yeah, it is.

490
00:29:30.059 --> 00:29:30.539
It is.

491
00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:32.759
No, but, like you said, with LaVar Burton.

492
00:29:32.819 --> 00:29:38.460
He can deliver exposition. as if he's talking about going shopping or something like that. very naturalistic.

493
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:46.079
So my theory about him shouting the exposition is that it's almost always because he's talking to someone who's not in the room with him.

494
00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:53.880
And so he's, you know, he's our guy on location and we're in the studio and it's like, and what's happening down in engineering?

495
00:29:53.940 --> 00:29:55.500
And then you've got Geordie with his face.

496
00:29:55.559 --> 00:30:02.099
He's looking towards us, but not at us, and he's talking to someone who's in a completely different room as if he's...

497
00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:04.200
Yeah, recently it doesn't quite...

498
00:30:04.259 --> 00:30:07.799
It feels weird, is because they're all talking in a very flat sort of story.

499
00:30:08.220 --> 00:30:10.140
And he's shouting out every line like this.

500
00:30:10.140 --> 00:30:11.640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

501
00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:14.099
Like the badge is just there on his chest.

502
00:30:14.099 --> 00:30:15.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

503
00:30:15.539 --> 00:30:17.220
But he's doing all the fucking work.

504
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:18.779
They're all sitting there in a chair.

505
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:20.700
Like, he's the one who has to do everything.

506
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:29.400
I think LeVar Burton is the Tim Ross of this show in that he could have been given incredible things to do because I've seen him do amazing things elsewhere.

507
00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:34.859
And heart, you know, most of the time, he's very competently delivering a ton of tether babble.

508
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:39.839
But, like, this is the show for that, and he does that incredibly well, I think.

509
00:30:39.900 --> 00:30:43.799
But yeah, it's like, I remember him in Picardo's talent, no.

510
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.000
Well, no, but I mean, this is sort of Star Trek, isn't it, at this point?

511
00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:49.859
Like, that's what it kind of is.

512
00:30:49.859 --> 00:30:51.779
Look at this 10 chocolate.

513
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:52.380
Hey, you know what?

514
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:53.519
I realised watching this.

515
00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:57.180
I love this bar because it gives them a chance to underlie it.

516
00:30:57.180 --> 00:30:58.319
Yes.

517
00:30:58.380 --> 00:31:00.119
And they never do that on this.

518
00:31:00.180 --> 00:31:02.460
You go and watch Picard.

519
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.539
So many scenes are lit like this from below and sort of practically within the set.

520
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:09.660
This is the one place on the Enterprise where they do that. they do that.

521
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.059
Yeah, that's on the tables on the bar.

522
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:13.200
Oh, my God.

523
00:31:13.259 --> 00:31:14.759
Here comes Gynan.

524
00:31:14.819 --> 00:31:17.039
I hear the queue continue and kicked you out.

525
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:20.519
It drums you out.

526
00:31:20.579 --> 00:31:21.779
There you go.

527
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:22.740
She's wonderful.

528
00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:23.640
So great.

529
00:31:23.700 --> 00:31:27.660
She picks up that falcon, stabs it into his hand like she means it.

530
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:29.220
It's true.

531
00:31:29.339 --> 00:31:33.000
She goes, you're just one of the boys, aren't you?

532
00:31:34.380 --> 00:31:41.700
But so so we have that sort of slightly stupid scene in Hugh Hu where they're kind of...

533
00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:43.619
Oh, wow.

534
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.920
For some reason, I don't quite know what that is.

535
00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:48.059
This is great.

536
00:31:48.180 --> 00:31:51.539
And that's just a day's film filming with Whoopi, isn't it?

537
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:52.259
all she's in.

538
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.099
Yeah, she just, um, and this is kind of...

539
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:57.660
I don't think they ever seen it again after this.

540
00:31:57.720 --> 00:31:58.559
It's really sad.

541
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.539
They're brilliant together.

542
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.160
Yes.

543
00:32:02.220 --> 00:32:05.700
Oh, the whole centuries are being omnipotent.

544
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.000
That's dumb to your head, cues. says you're a loser.

545
00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:11.759
You're only going to survive on the charity of others.

546
00:32:11.819 --> 00:32:19.380
And I think that's unfair because he is smart and he's, you know, he's working, but she knows that he's not going to fit in, you know.

547
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.960
From now on, I'll do missionary work, okay?

548
00:32:24.299 --> 00:32:27.000
Oh, that line is a bit much.

549
00:32:27.059 --> 00:32:28.859
The robot that teaches the course and humanity.

550
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:30.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

551
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.039
Yeah, go on.

552
00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:33.059
Drive the point home.

553
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.700
That's the lack of subjects, T and G I'm used to.

554
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:36.660
Yeah, exactly right.

555
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:37.440
Exactly right.

556
00:32:37.500 --> 00:32:43.200
But this, that you're pitiful, and that's what he decides, like he eventually decides that he agrees with her.

557
00:32:43.259 --> 00:32:52.079
But so there was something about her being a dangerous creature, both in this and in human, the hero, the hero, the Sundays, with a little cherry on this hole, each one.

558
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.960
I'm hungry. well framed shot too, isn't it?

559
00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:56.940
Um, yeah.

560
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.279
Yeah, it's a little bit cheesy.

561
00:32:59.339 --> 00:33:02.880
But remember, there was a... a... a dangerous creature.

562
00:33:02.940 --> 00:33:05.460
She's a dangerous creature and that never pays off.

563
00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:07.019
No.

564
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.200
At this point, we don't know who she is, remember?

565
00:33:10.259 --> 00:33:12.000
By the time we get to Times Arrow.

566
00:33:12.059 --> 00:33:13.920
She's just someone who's having a laugh in history.

567
00:33:13.980 --> 00:33:15.900
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

568
00:33:16.019 --> 00:33:20.759
And then in generations, she's completely she's a solved problem, isn't she?

569
00:33:20.819 --> 00:33:22.619
She's an LA who's been in the nexus.

570
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:26.819
Actually, no, I think he's right, because we don't all be Goldberg to be a villain, do we?

571
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:27.359
or a problem?

572
00:33:27.420 --> 00:33:28.019
No.

573
00:33:28.019 --> 00:33:30.119
We just wanted to make it more dangerous.

574
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.119
And they're gesturing at it, but it never goes anywhere.

575
00:33:33.180 --> 00:33:36.119
But I just have strong memories of not knowing what she was.

576
00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:37.079
Do you know what I mean?

577
00:33:37.140 --> 00:33:39.900
Like that not being a thing that I knew.

578
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:43.740
Star Trek fans like the ambiguity of the lions.

579
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:48.900
I think, you know, where you can write, you know, 15 spinoff books about it, to try and explain it.

580
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:50.400
We'll never have to read those, but.

581
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:52.140
Oh, here come.

582
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:52.740
What are they called?

583
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:54.180
The calamarine.

584
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:55.079
Yeah.

585
00:33:55.140 --> 00:33:57.059
Can I tell you what, right?

586
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.640
Alamorain is what they shout out in Move Along Home.

587
00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:01.799
I love Marine.

588
00:34:03.539 --> 00:34:06.779
Oh, increasing to 40%. here we go.

589
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:08.219
Back to regular DNG.

590
00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:13.980
So they're increasing the shields to get the calamari now, I guess.

591
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.619
At least Q's being tortured at the same time.

592
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:18.480
You know, that's quite fun. kind of fun.

593
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:23.460
I just love it when he has the cloud in the palm of his hand, though.

594
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:26.400
It just goes, it turns it away, does it?

595
00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:27.480
It just vanishes.

596
00:34:30.539 --> 00:34:33.059
The fact that he has no fucking humility at all.

597
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.519
The 2nd he gets his powers back, he's like, oh, great, right.

598
00:34:35.579 --> 00:34:36.000
Here we go.

599
00:34:36.059 --> 00:34:37.500
I haven't learned a lesson.

600
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.059
No, but you would.

601
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:40.920
I think that's I think that's pretty great.

602
00:34:42.300 --> 00:34:46.559
But Corbin Burnson comes in and prevents him from doing it.

603
00:34:47.340 --> 00:34:52.320
Every time we see that rock, I'm scared we're going to see those people getting down on the planet.

604
00:34:52.380 --> 00:34:55.619
Yeah, they are terrible, Mr. and Mrs. Boring.

605
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.059
Yeah, yeah.

606
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.039
Yeah, where are they on the Bo Mars scale?

607
00:34:59.099 --> 00:34:59.880
8 or nine.

608
00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:01.559
I mean, it's so high.

609
00:35:01.619 --> 00:35:02.940
It's the, yeah, pretty high.

610
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:04.860
The sort of fluquo mouth.

611
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:05.820
Yeah, yeah.

612
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:10.679
Like they're trying to deliver dialogue with half of their mouths, sort of glued, shut with latex.

613
00:35:10.739 --> 00:35:11.280
It's bad.

614
00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:12.960
You wouldn't want them.

615
00:35:13.019 --> 00:35:17.159
I'm sorry to go here, but you would have wanted them...

616
00:35:17.219 --> 00:35:17.940
Oh, yeah, yeah.

617
00:35:17.940 --> 00:35:19.619
Oh, yeah, yeah.

618
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:20.219
Yeah.

619
00:35:20.219 --> 00:35:22.260
How do they reap notice?

620
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:23.400
We don't want to know.

621
00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:24.480
They don't do that.

622
00:35:24.539 --> 00:35:26.460
Michael Westmore, try again.

623
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:28.920
It's really bad.

624
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.920
It's been since Michael Westmore as well.

625
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.019
Well, we've decided a couple of weeks ago, didn't we?

626
00:35:34.019 --> 00:35:36.239
Mid-season, Michael Westmore, as well.

627
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.300
Everything's very ugly and a bit desperate.

628
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.940
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they just look stupid.

629
00:35:42.059 --> 00:35:46.679
It would have been great if they'd just been like green people if they'd just been an Orion, right?

630
00:35:46.739 --> 00:35:47.280
Do you know what I mean?

631
00:35:47.340 --> 00:35:48.539
Like if you want to make them aliens.

632
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:52.800
Like, the thing that I like is that they work with aliens every day.

633
00:35:52.860 --> 00:35:53.699
Do you know what I mean?

634
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.639
You've got data calling them doctor and stuff like that.

635
00:35:56.699 --> 00:36:02.099
They're scientists and things like that, that's a thing and that's a thing that Star Trek should be doing because that's what it's about.

636
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:03.179
They can't all be humans.

637
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:09.900
They're going to all be those colonists from, um, devil's due with the stupid jumpsuits on.

638
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.739
Yeah, they have to be aliens, but these are pretty...

639
00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:16.619
We do do call this for stupid jumpsuits quite a lot, though.

640
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:17.400
We do.

641
00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:18.300
That's right.

642
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:20.219
They had a standing order with the gap.

643
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:21.119
I'm telling you.

644
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.679
And this is where it's becoming real, isn't it?

645
00:36:25.739 --> 00:36:26.820
Like, this is what they are.

646
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:27.780
I just mean here.

647
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.360
He goes, well, that's not what I signed up for protecting you.

648
00:36:30.420 --> 00:36:31.380
I'm not going to be doing that.

649
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:32.940
Oh, come on.

650
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:37.739
So is so is Picard. just saying I'm dumping you at the nearest Starbase, you know.

651
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:38.880
It's John Delansey.

652
00:36:38.940 --> 00:36:39.300
Come on.

653
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.340
Yeah, if we...

654
00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:44.460
No, when Data's speaking up to defend him.

655
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:45.900
Are they really cool?

656
00:36:45.900 --> 00:36:48.659
The Bre-L with L, yeah.

657
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.940
Yeah, they have an apostrophe, don't know.

658
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.320
Oh, there you go, Lala Beaumar.

659
00:36:52.380 --> 00:36:53.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

660
00:36:53.880 --> 00:37:04.199
But at least, you know, it's separating 2 vowels, the Bre-L, they abuse punctuation in the alien races with Star Trek.

661
00:37:04.260 --> 00:37:04.860
They really do.

662
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:12.360
So, but see, like Geordie's talking to these people, but he's not in the room with them, and it's one of the things that he does really well, I think, and he does it more than anyone else.

663
00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:19.199
Like everyone's up here sitting in comfy chairs and he's down there doing work while and explaining to them what he's doing.

664
00:37:19.260 --> 00:37:21.659
It doesn't look too uncomfortable with engineering though.

665
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.099
No, that's true.

666
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:23.820
It is...

667
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:26.039
Not like, except when things are original enterprise.

668
00:37:26.099 --> 00:37:28.320
We have to crawl all over it all the time.

669
00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:34.920
They're doing a lot of these sort of, they really have mastered these tracking shots, aren't they, down the corridor?

670
00:37:34.980 --> 00:37:37.199
That's a simple thing to say.

671
00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:38.699
There's a lot of...

672
00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:39.780
There's a couple in there.

673
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:40.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

674
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.219
By the time you get to the later seasons.

675
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.460
Those cameras are zooming around those corridors like you wouldn't believe.

676
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:49.139
But look how much corridor there is.

677
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:52.320
Like they're not running out of corridor and they're not walking particularly slowly.

678
00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:55.079
Oh, they go and run in circles, though.

679
00:37:55.139 --> 00:37:57.599
I don't think in that shot.

680
00:37:57.659 --> 00:37:59.519
Oh, maybe I should have paid closer attention.

681
00:37:59.579 --> 00:38:00.659
There wasn't a cut, though.

682
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.840
There was no point where anyone walked in front of the camera, so there was no camera.

683
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:08.519
And here we don't open the door, so we don't move anymore.

684
00:38:08.579 --> 00:38:09.539
Do you know what I mean?

685
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.579
We don't go out onto the bridge or anything like that.

686
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.119
So this scene ends in the in the turbo lift.

687
00:38:15.179 --> 00:38:17.639
It's difficult to work in a group when you're omnipotent.

688
00:38:17.699 --> 00:38:18.719
He says.

689
00:38:18.780 --> 00:38:21.420
There they are on the ties have reached 10 metres.

690
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.940
That's pretty good for surfing, that is.

691
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.039
Yeah, again, because they can't show us that they can't afford to show us that.

692
00:38:29.099 --> 00:38:30.659
All they can do is tell us about it.

693
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.360
Oh, this woman at the back end.

694
00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:36.780
No, she's sort of holding her hands together, frustrating her.

695
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:38.400
Please help us, Captain Picard.

696
00:38:38.579 --> 00:38:40.679
And look at her now.

697
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:46.440
There is one extra person walking about behind them just to show that it's a fully populated planet.

698
00:38:46.500 --> 00:38:47.280
It is.

699
00:38:47.340 --> 00:38:49.320
There's at least 4 people.

700
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.619
You don't blow up the moon when there's four.

701
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:53.579
Only when there's two.

702
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:55.619
Yes.

703
00:38:55.739 --> 00:38:58.380
See, with a name like Calamarine.

704
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:01.320
You think the makeup would be like calamari, right?

705
00:39:01.380 --> 00:39:04.079
No, no, no, the clown people.

706
00:39:04.139 --> 00:39:05.039
We never actually see them.

707
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:05.940
They're just a cloud.

708
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.800
These are the brown.

709
00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:09.840
I'm getting very confused.

710
00:39:09.900 --> 00:39:11.639
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

711
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:16.139
Okay, cues now joining the engineering team to now count.

712
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:21.719
Yeah, and so he comes in and just takes control because he's the smartest person in the room, so obviously he's going to be in charge.

713
00:39:21.780 --> 00:39:26.760
And we had that conversation about him not being able to do, like he can help, but he can't get this.

714
00:39:26.820 --> 00:39:29.400
I don't give him tank smarter than it.

715
00:39:29.460 --> 00:39:31.019
Yeah, a 1000000000 times.

716
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:33.960
You step aside gracefully, you know.

717
00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:40.139
Oh, Q, get to the controls or get the hell out of here.

718
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.239
Am I watching Babble or 5 now?

719
00:39:42.300 --> 00:39:44.400
No, I just think it's really great.

720
00:39:44.460 --> 00:39:45.300
I don't know what that means.

721
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.219
I think it's great though.

722
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.079
But everyone is horrible to him except for data.

723
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:52.679
It's lovely.

724
00:39:52.739 --> 00:39:53.099
I know.

725
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:53.579
I love it.

726
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.039
And data's the one telling everyone.

727
00:39:56.099 --> 00:39:56.940
No, he is human.

728
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:58.260
No, he is trying.

729
00:39:58.320 --> 00:39:59.699
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

730
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.360
I feel as if they has genuine stakes in Q and this friendship.

731
00:40:04.019 --> 00:40:08.880
And Brent Spiner does it all without really displaying much of an emotion.

732
00:40:08.940 --> 00:40:10.559
It is such a skill.

733
00:40:10.619 --> 00:40:12.599
He's really great, isn't he?

734
00:40:12.659 --> 00:40:16.679
I can't understand why by the time he got to, you know, after the movie.

735
00:40:16.739 --> 00:40:18.539
I'm never putting that fucking makeup on again.

736
00:40:18.659 --> 00:40:19.800
I had enough, you know.

737
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:20.699
He did, though.

738
00:40:20.820 --> 00:40:22.079
Never say never.

739
00:40:22.139 --> 00:40:22.500
You did.

740
00:40:22.500 --> 00:40:24.719
You did a payoff for enough money.

741
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:25.739
You did.

742
00:40:26.699 --> 00:40:29.340
Do you think that's a dynamic shot?

743
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.039
You know, the rock heading towards the planet and the little cloud there.

744
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:41.099
I mean, that's a better version of what they were actually able to achieve in the 1980s, though, you know, because we're behind the rock.

745
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:42.900
It doesn't seem to be moving.

746
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.420
That's the idea is it's supposed to be moving, right?

747
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:48.480
But it would have been a physical prop.

748
00:40:48.539 --> 00:40:54.599
Like the rock would have been an actual kind of painted polystyrene thing that they were shooting.

749
00:40:54.659 --> 00:41:03.719
You know, the same way that the planet was a big round polystyrene ball, that they projected the surface onto um back in the day.

750
00:41:03.780 --> 00:41:06.780
So there was no computer generated imagery at this point.

751
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:08.099
It was all water.

752
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:15.059
That would have been someone's job to make that polystyrene rock, you know, just like, man, they must have been heady times for that special effects, man.

753
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:20.340
Yeah, so this is these are the replacement effects for the high definition.

754
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:21.900
I'm assuming that's what you're watching.

755
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:22.679
That's what I'm watching.

756
00:41:22.739 --> 00:41:25.079
HD version, yeah, yeah, yeah.

757
00:41:25.139 --> 00:41:31.320
It's why whenever we do DSI and Voyager, I'm always just so irritated by the fuzziness of the SD.

758
00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:32.460
Yeah, yeah.

759
00:41:33.179 --> 00:41:34.320
Never mind. one day.

760
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:39.719
They are getting better at doing these things now where you can just put it all for a processor and make it shut up or anyways.

761
00:41:39.780 --> 00:41:42.059
The AI is taking over.

762
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.099
God, I sound like an old man. will come.

763
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.000
I think it will.

764
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.980
That's a very nice shot there at the Enterprise.

765
00:41:46.980 --> 00:41:51.119
It's not the original shot at all, but that is a beautiful shot. surprise me.

766
00:41:51.179 --> 00:41:52.380
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

767
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.739
I wonder who this lovely lady is at the con right here on the road.

768
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:56.699
She doesn't get to do anything.

769
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:58.500
What is it that Wesley stay on?

770
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.659
She gets a lean forward then.

771
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:01.980
She leaned forward briefly.

772
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:03.780
She looks across at the other guy.

773
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.360
A highlight of her career.

774
00:42:06.420 --> 00:42:09.840
They're being scanned again by the Calamarina, aren't they?

775
00:42:09.900 --> 00:42:11.400
Oh, so this is pretty good, I think.

776
00:42:11.460 --> 00:42:27.300
So, so now we have the situation where, in fact, Q. presence is interfering with a mission and is causing the mission to fail because the moment they lower their shields to do the thing, Q gets attacked.

777
00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:30.119
Do you think they winched him up in the air there?

778
00:42:30.179 --> 00:42:30.599
Yes.

779
00:42:30.659 --> 00:42:31.619
Like genuinely.

780
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.300
I think they've hit, yep, they've winch.

781
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:34.380
It looks great, isn't it?

782
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:35.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

783
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:37.619
A good physical effect.

784
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:42.900
Yeah, so then obviously Q then makes a decision, even though he's not going to say I care about you people.

785
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:44.099
So I'm going off.

786
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:46.679
He's just like, it's easier with me gone, Jean-Luc.

787
00:42:46.739 --> 00:42:48.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

788
00:42:48.059 --> 00:42:49.199
I like that a lot.

789
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:54.239
And then it gets undermined in that scene with Q2, which is pretty great as well.

790
00:42:54.300 --> 00:42:57.840
It's actually, whoa, you know, might not like this.

791
00:42:57.900 --> 00:43:01.079
Like, Q not saying, I care about you people.

792
00:43:01.139 --> 00:43:01.980
That's where I'm going.

793
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:06.059
Picard, not saying I care about Q. That's why I'm bringing him back.

794
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:20.039
It is quite touching and less saccharine than everybody explicitly stating their emotions in Kurt, which they love one another like on Discovery. unendurable on Discovery at times.

795
00:43:20.099 --> 00:43:22.320
Sometimes I could do it without subtext.

796
00:43:22.380 --> 00:43:33.599
No one does it to no one does it to Giorgio, though. you know, like Michael clearly loves Shawjo in a way, but they don't have gloopy conversations about it. interestingly.

797
00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:36.179
Lower decks does that extremely well.

798
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:37.139
The subtext thing.

799
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.860
Because very often the characters, I don't really want to say what they're feeling.

800
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:45.239
And so they do something that shows what they're feeling, although they still have great moments.

801
00:43:45.300 --> 00:43:51.420
Yeah, those 4 love one another. psychological insight and emotional drama for a cartoon.

802
00:43:52.019 --> 00:43:55.619
I'm also with this, which is actual live action TV.

803
00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:00.239
Well, live action is probably overstating.

804
00:44:01.380 --> 00:44:07.440
Slightly comatose action... in the sets talking to one another.

805
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:13.679
Oh, God, when I was a kid, you know, I was desperate to know what was in those kind of jars.

806
00:44:13.739 --> 00:44:15.239
Yeah, they look great, don't they?

807
00:44:15.300 --> 00:44:17.760
So I think this scene is really proper.

808
00:44:17.820 --> 00:44:18.300
It's wonderful.

809
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:22.019
In fact, I think the rest of the episode now is pretty much all great.

810
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:28.139
Oh, he's sitting down, thank God.

811
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.539
Yeah, yeah, we don't have to look at his dick.

812
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:40.980
It's, it's just the, it's Picard's refusal to, um, to really engage. you know what I mean?

813
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:53.460
Or just, you know, he lets him speak and he listens to him, but he doesn't participate in the conversation that no more me, imagine, no more me, and no one would have missed me and he just doesn't say a thing.

814
00:44:53.579 --> 00:44:56.460
And that's really portrayed well.

815
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:05.159
I can remember as a kid the 1st time I recognised what death was and it profoundly changed how I looked at things, you know?

816
00:45:05.340 --> 00:45:08.280
And he's playing it. hes not overplaying this.

817
00:45:08.340 --> 00:45:10.019
He's not doing this for comedy now.

818
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.780
He's playing this as a dramatic role for this scene.

819
00:45:13.380 --> 00:45:16.079
I feel ashamed, he says.

820
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.380
I am not your father confessor.

821
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.360
You will received no absolution from me.

822
00:45:21.420 --> 00:45:23.579
He just refuses to join in.

823
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:24.840
He refuses to help.

824
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:29.219
He's still, you know, you are a problem and you are still the problem.

825
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:38.880
You are standing in the way of us doing our job and our job is saving 1000000s of people and you're here talking about yourself, you know, like this is still poor behaviour.

826
00:45:38.940 --> 00:45:43.019
Although, he goes, I won't participate in this joke, queue.

827
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.480
And he goes, if this is a joke, the joke's on me.

828
00:45:45.539 --> 00:45:45.960
All right?

829
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:49.559
I don't know.

830
00:45:49.619 --> 00:45:54.659
I think maybe, maybe I would have liked to have seen a little more empathy from Picard.

831
00:45:55.079 --> 00:46:01.619
I think this works really well because I think too, the other thing that happens is the relationship grows.

832
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:03.000
Don't you think?

833
00:46:03.059 --> 00:46:04.860
Like the relationship grows.

834
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.500
By the time we get to tapestry, where he takes it back to his path.

835
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.239
It's beautiful.

836
00:46:09.300 --> 00:46:15.840
In fact, it's almost a bit of a shame in all good things that it takes a bit of a backstep in that.

837
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.039
Exactly that.

838
00:46:17.099 --> 00:46:21.059
In fact, it's a little bit striking in context. isn't it all good things?

839
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.619
It's just, oh, cue's back like this again.

840
00:46:22.860 --> 00:46:24.960
This is really good.

841
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.239
I love this scene.

842
00:46:27.300 --> 00:46:33.539
And I think it's genius not giving not giving any reply to data.

843
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:34.980
I know.

844
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:35.400
Yeah.

845
00:46:35.460 --> 00:46:37.199
Yeah, I thought that was really clever.

846
00:46:37.260 --> 00:46:39.900
Just believe me, you're missing nothing.

847
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:42.659
But look at the smile.

848
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:43.440
Look at the smile.

849
00:46:43.500 --> 00:46:50.460
Oh, that line, but if it means anything to you, You're a bad human than I. how he delivers it too, just with that subtle smile.

850
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:51.059
It's wonderful.

851
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.980
I don't think TNG is thoughtful as this usually.

852
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:58.019
Not often anyway.

853
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:02.880
Yeah, they were really, Gene Roddenbury really made a good call. strip it back.

854
00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:06.900
Don't make it about a war, make it about the people involved.

855
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:08.280
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

856
00:47:08.340 --> 00:47:12.300
I've given you so many of these ghastly godlike beings over the years.

857
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.820
Now let's see what they're really about.

858
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:19.500
Oh, wonderful. stolen the shuttle.

859
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.500
Shut off and identify yourself.

860
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:23.460
He's so good.

861
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:23.820
Really?

862
00:47:24.659 --> 00:47:29.159
There we go. just can't get used to following orders.

863
00:47:29.219 --> 00:47:30.360
That's the reason he's going.

864
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:34.500
That's crazy out this way.

865
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:36.659
Yeah, you're right.

866
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.480
He totally rejects the self-sacrifice, doesn't he?

867
00:47:39.539 --> 00:47:40.199
Yeah, yeah.

868
00:47:40.260 --> 00:47:42.059
I mean, it's clearly what he's doing in a way.

869
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.860
It's a bit on the nose, he goes, please don't fall back on, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

870
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:48.599
Obvious cliches.

871
00:47:48.659 --> 00:47:52.079
My life as a human being has been a dismal failure.

872
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:57.239
Does he smile and undermine it?

873
00:47:57.300 --> 00:47:59.519
There is something like I think...

874
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:00.480
Yes, here you go.

875
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.179
This is so unusual now.

876
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.159
This scene in the show.

877
00:48:05.219 --> 00:48:07.199
As a human, I would have died of boredom.

878
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:09.300
That's a gray line.

879
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:11.760
But just to neither any of the regulars in this scene.

880
00:48:11.820 --> 00:48:13.619
It's so weird, right?

881
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.539
It's like, it means cues important.

882
00:48:15.539 --> 00:48:16.260
That shot is great too.

883
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:18.480
He's that almost one of our ensemble now.

884
00:48:18.539 --> 00:48:19.679
Yeah, yeah.

885
00:48:19.739 --> 00:48:23.880
But this shot, where I think the thing where the thing's coming after him is pretty good.

886
00:48:23.940 --> 00:48:26.940
The one where it comes down over the camera.

887
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:27.780
Yes, this.

888
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:30.900
Beam it back.

889
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.019
And then he loves a good shuttle.

890
00:48:34.019 --> 00:48:37.019
And Riker's looking at him judgementally.

891
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:42.480
Pretty good.

892
00:48:42.539 --> 00:48:46.800
And then weirdly, another striking thing about the scene in this shot.

893
00:48:46.860 --> 00:48:48.659
It feels like it's been ripped out of a sitcom.

894
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.000
Because it is 2 comedy actors.

895
00:48:51.059 --> 00:48:53.579
Yeah, saying comedy lines.

896
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:57.659
So Corbin Burnson is huge at the moment.

897
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:01.500
He is in LA law.

898
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:07.320
And I never watched LA law, but it's very 80s, and it obviously had Diana Muldar in it.

899
00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:10.800
Remember, she was the one who gets shoved down the lift shaft.

900
00:49:10.860 --> 00:49:16.619
Well, she just opens the door, walks into a lift, but it isn't there and she just falls to death.

901
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:20.039
And the only scene that I ever watched of LA law.

902
00:49:20.099 --> 00:49:20.880
That's what happened.

903
00:49:20.940 --> 00:49:22.739
It's just like, shit, that's a thing.

904
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:28.199
So he's playing it as if he's in a completely different show.

905
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:29.699
And I think that works really well.

906
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:34.019
I think we see another performance in the next generation like this ever.

907
00:49:34.139 --> 00:49:36.360
It really stood out as something striking.

908
00:49:36.420 --> 00:49:40.500
It's a little bit like Matt Frewer does it a little bit. you know what I mean?

909
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:45.599
Like it is a little bit of a sort of, but there's a very relaxed comedy thing to it.

910
00:49:45.659 --> 00:49:59.219
But what I really like is when he realises he's done a selfless act, you know, and he goes, ah, tiny bit, tiny bit selfless, and he's kind of like... body language. and like we were on a crew of people that barely move.

911
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:03.480
And his arms are wave and he's looking at his hands like, oh, I've got hands.

912
00:50:03.539 --> 00:50:04.019
What's going on?

913
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:05.940
He's overdoing that a little bit, I think.

914
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.000
Yeah, and I agree, but it's refreshing.

915
00:50:09.059 --> 00:50:10.619
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

916
00:50:10.619 --> 00:50:14.039
Well, it is like the whole point.

917
00:50:14.099 --> 00:50:18.840
I think, you know, and he's understood it, is that these 2 are relaxed.

918
00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:24.900
In fact, in this one, it's our cue who is got the stick up his bum.

919
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.659
Isn't he compared to the compared to the other queue?

920
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:34.860
The other cue's much more relaxed, whereas our cue's been hanging out with humans a bit and is, you know, being a little bit more stiff.

921
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:41.219
Um, the way he delivers the line as well of, um, you got your powers back.

922
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.260
It's like, it's so casual.

923
00:50:43.619 --> 00:50:51.780
But the other thing too, which I think is super important is that he tells Q that they tried to rescue him.

924
00:50:52.500 --> 00:50:53.880
Yeah.

925
00:50:53.940 --> 00:50:56.760
Yeah, you know, that he said, no, no, I'm going off.

926
00:50:56.820 --> 00:51:03.539
I'm going to sacrifice myself, and I'll take the calamarine away so that you can save this planet.

927
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:08.699
Um, but he, he knows that they, at least it was a teeny bit selfless, wasn't it?

928
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:10.320
That's my problem.

929
00:51:10.380 --> 00:51:13.260
I can't go back to the computer and tell them that.

930
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.440
There's got to be inquests and exclamations.

931
00:51:16.500 --> 00:51:17.400
Oh, man.

932
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:18.119
And we see that.

933
00:51:18.179 --> 00:51:19.619
We see that in Voyager, right?

934
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:20.400
And they're very boring.

935
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:31.559
But this is kind of cute as well because he thinks he's an art of failure as a human being, and he refuses to frame his self-sacrificing those terms.

936
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:33.179
Like, do you know what I mean?

937
00:51:33.300 --> 00:51:36.480
He just says I would have died of border, my machine human, all of that sort of thing.

938
00:51:36.539 --> 00:51:38.820
But then he kind of goes, actually, it was selfless.

939
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:39.960
I was pretty good, wasn't I?

940
00:51:40.019 --> 00:51:40.800
That's what David did.

941
00:51:40.860 --> 00:51:42.179
You know, I said, what's me of?

942
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:44.579
This reminds me of.

943
00:51:44.579 --> 00:51:49.079
I'm going to make a talk to reference. of a way old doctor reference.

944
00:51:49.139 --> 00:51:57.360
Tara of the autons. when that fella turns up and just delivers a load of exposition and tells the doctor and then pops off again. exactly the same thing.

945
00:51:57.420 --> 00:52:03.239
Oh, look at his head in the air. sticking through the bulkhead.

946
00:52:04.260 --> 00:52:07.559
Try and stay out of trouble, he says, as is off.

947
00:52:08.579 --> 00:52:17.880
Now we're back in a proper queue episode, you know, and Q takes over the show because he's omnipotent, which is pretty great, so they don't know what's hit them.

948
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:31.619
Like, it's very clever that they take away all of this, you know, the fact that he can come on with a Mexican band and they make it and all these things, they take away all of the fun stuff around you and he's still all the funnest things.

949
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:31.980
Yeah.

950
00:52:31.980 --> 00:52:32.820
Yeah.

951
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.719
I do think I do think a lot of it is John Delancey, though.

952
00:52:36.780 --> 00:52:41.460
Oh, no, absolutely it is, which is why you're getting back in Picard, you know.

953
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:43.260
It's a personality.

954
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:44.820
You just can't contain, is it?

955
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.139
They try.

956
00:52:47.940 --> 00:52:50.340
I'm immortal again.

957
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.679
Omnipotent again.

958
00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:58.679
The cigar is pretty funny.

959
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:02.219
I don't need your fantasy women.

960
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.280
Excuse me, you don't usually complain, Riko.

961
00:53:05.340 --> 00:53:06.000
What are you talking about?

962
00:53:06.059 --> 00:53:08.099
She's brought her tits with her, this one on the left.

963
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.139
That's a cheek.

964
00:53:10.139 --> 00:53:16.739
I mean, look, this is what I mean about. of them have any body language.

965
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:17.820
They're so still.

966
00:53:20.940 --> 00:53:24.719
Oh, it's lovely when Picard's really pissed off and everyone's having fun.

967
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:27.300
I feel like celebrating.

968
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:28.139
I doubt.

969
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:30.780
Yeah, but they're still in the middle of the thing.

970
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:31.920
Do you know what I mean?

971
00:53:31.980 --> 00:53:36.420
They're still in the middle of this sort of boring episode, this boring. wave that away already.

972
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.699
It's already done They don't know that.

973
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:40.920
And I think that's great as well.

974
00:53:40.980 --> 00:53:44.880
Like he just does that on the way out and he doesn't comment on it.

975
00:53:44.940 --> 00:53:46.500
He doesn't draw their attention to it.

976
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.239
He doesn't ask to be thanked.

977
00:53:48.300 --> 00:53:50.159
He just does it on the way out.

978
00:53:50.219 --> 00:53:56.219
And I actually think that final line is a bit of a shame that they have to tell us, you know.

979
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.219
That's the difference between this and Q Hu though.

980
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:06.719
And Maurice Hurley's approach and this approach, and this approach, we want to leave you as our friend and he does something nice for them.

981
00:54:06.780 --> 00:54:13.559
And Q who, he takes him to a region of space where the Borg, slice open a section and murder people.

982
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:17.340
And at the end, he goes, well, Yeah, that's the universe.

983
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:18.960
They're 2 very different takes.

984
00:54:19.019 --> 00:54:20.760
I'm not sure which one I prefer actually.

985
00:54:20.820 --> 00:54:22.079
I like this, though.

986
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.599
Oh, it's so overdone though.

987
00:54:24.659 --> 00:54:28.079
They just can't do comedy on the bridge, can they?

988
00:54:28.139 --> 00:54:30.119
Well, it's it's Brent.

989
00:54:30.179 --> 00:54:37.440
I mean, when Brent, like Brent pulls this shit in generations, when he gets the emotion...

990
00:54:37.500 --> 00:54:46.500
Oh, that where he turns around and you think he's finished, he turns around, he looks at Picard and then just roars with laughter, I think he's really great.

991
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.239
Like that's that's pretty good.

992
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:49.500
And then...

993
00:54:49.500 --> 00:54:55.320
I can't decide whether this is a very or worse comedy scene than the one we saw at the end of disaster with all the kids on the bridge.

994
00:54:55.380 --> 00:54:57.179
They're like pretty terrible.

995
00:54:57.239 --> 00:54:58.860
I think it's a great gift.

996
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.800
Remember when he tries to give them more gifts in hide and cue?

997
00:55:01.860 --> 00:55:03.300
Oh, terrible.

998
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:04.860
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

999
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:05.519
Yeah.

1000
00:55:05.579 --> 00:55:07.500
But that gift is perfect.

1001
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.480
And it's seeded in early.

1002
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:10.559
Do you know what I mean?

1003
00:55:10.619 --> 00:55:11.880
I never know what it's like to laugh.

1004
00:55:11.940 --> 00:55:12.719
Oh, Jesus Christ.

1005
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.239
The most faithless runner.

1006
00:55:15.300 --> 00:55:16.260
Captain Picard.

1007
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:21.059
I don't know how you did it, even though they still can't raise a smile because of their sucker mouth teeth, you know?

1008
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:22.440
No, yeah, yeah.

1009
00:55:22.500 --> 00:55:24.059
Oh no, she's trying to smile.

1010
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.880
The woman's trying to smile. tragic.

1011
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:31.380
Poor Deanna Troy has done fuck all in this episode, is she?

1012
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:32.519
She got that one line.

1013
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:34.679
This is the episode where Q is human.

1014
00:55:34.860 --> 00:55:37.320
They've given it all to data.

1015
00:55:38.099 --> 00:55:42.780
Well, the women have had one tiny scene each, haven't they, essentially?

1016
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.880
More than they often get, you know?

1017
00:55:44.940 --> 00:55:46.019
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1018
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:47.099
That is true.

1019
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.639
I'm not saying that's a good thing, by the way.

1020
00:55:50.699 --> 00:55:52.320
No, no, it's a terrible thing.

1021
00:55:52.619 --> 00:55:54.059
Yep.

1022
00:55:54.059 --> 00:55:55.679
Oh, it was fun.

1023
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.780
Let's swap off now to the next place.

1024
00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:59.579
Oh, no, he's got to have the cigar yet, hasn't he?

1025
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:00.300
Yeah, yeah.

1026
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:04.980
And I think this is a bit shit because perhaps there's a residue of humanity in cue after all.

1027
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.500
Like, do we need that?

1028
00:56:07.500 --> 00:56:08.880
Do we have to have that?

1029
00:56:08.940 --> 00:56:12.900
It's just like Spock sneaking out to us in that animated series episode, isn't it?

1030
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:13.380
You know?

1031
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.780
Lucifer wasn't evil after all.

1032
00:56:16.019 --> 00:56:21.119
That's right You could have just had the joke with the cigar.

1033
00:56:21.179 --> 00:56:23.400
Even though that isn't that funny.

1034
00:56:23.460 --> 00:56:32.039
But that's a bad joke as well. like it is supposed to slightly undermine the character developer we've had with Q or whatever.

1035
00:56:32.099 --> 00:56:32.940
Do you know what I mean?

1036
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:36.480
Like the humanising of Q, but it is a little bit crap, I think.

1037
00:56:36.539 --> 00:56:39.000
I would, there's too many jokes in that last scene.

1038
00:56:39.059 --> 00:56:40.139
I would have restructured it.

1039
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:44.579
I would have had the sequence where the woman comes up on the screen and goes, Captain Picard.

1040
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:46.500
A miracle's happened.

1041
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:50.159
Get that over and done with, then do data laughing and end on that.

1042
00:56:50.219 --> 00:56:51.179
Yeah.

1043
00:56:51.300 --> 00:56:54.539
Because that's the best part of that scene. you know, because that's the most touching part.

1044
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:56.519
Apparently it's the most funniest part.

1045
00:56:56.579 --> 00:56:58.380
So end on a high.

1046
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:14.159
I do think, though, that, you know, we start with him not giving a shit about that, you know, like he's more concerned about sleeping and and being hungry and having back pain and he's constantly derailing conversations about the main situation.

1047
00:57:14.219 --> 00:57:16.980
You know, the Bra L 4 situation.

1048
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:20.880
And so to have him casually fix it without saying anything.

1049
00:57:20.940 --> 00:57:22.980
I think he's really great.

1050
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:27.780
And I think it's a shame that they have to hang a lantern on it, really.

1051
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:33.719
The reason the whole episode pays off, isn't it, is that in the 1st half of the episode, everyone's being a bit mean to each other.

1052
00:57:33.780 --> 00:57:37.440
In the 2nd half of the episode, we realise everybody cares about each other.

1053
00:57:37.500 --> 00:57:39.420
That's a lovely payoff.

1054
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:40.980
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

1055
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:41.579
I agree.

1056
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:45.300
Yeah, no, I think that's a that is a pretty excellent episode.

1057
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:48.179
And even in the context of a really strong season.

1058
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:50.280
That's pretty great, isn't it?

1059
00:57:50.340 --> 00:57:51.659
It is familiar.

1060
00:57:51.780 --> 00:57:54.719
Yeah, I'll just repeat why I said it at the start.

1061
00:57:54.780 --> 00:57:57.900
Yeah, I think this is top 3 of the next genes we've done so far.

1062
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:02.340
And I can only guarantee the next one won't be as good.

1063
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:18.300
All right, it's the end of the episode, and it is time for us to work out where we're going next.

1064
00:58:18.659 --> 00:58:23.760
This was your choice, Joe. and an excellent choice.

1065
00:58:23.820 --> 00:58:30.119
So it's my turn to come and completely stuff it up with something ridiculous and terrible.

1066
00:58:30.179 --> 00:58:34.739
And so where else will we go, but Star Trek Enterprise.

1067
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:35.699
I knew it.

1068
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:37.260
I knew you were going to say.

1069
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.019
You're the only person that takes us to Enterprise.

1070
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:41.340
Okay.

1071
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.440
Yeah, no, very intrigued.

1072
00:58:43.500 --> 00:58:45.420
Kind of intrigued.

1073
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:49.199
And we are still a little bit behind on our coverage of enterprise.

1074
00:58:49.260 --> 00:58:55.860
So we have to eat our vegetables eventually and that Star Trek Enterprise.

1075
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:58.440
So I have picked it on the randomiser.

1076
00:58:58.500 --> 00:59:09.780
And can I just remind people, if you go to untitled Star Trek project.com slash randomiser, you can, like us, pick a random Star Trek episode from any series.

1077
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:14.099
So if you're kind of wondering what you want to watch and Agonising choice.

1078
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:18.539
The agonising choice of 1000s of different episodes.

1079
00:59:18.659 --> 00:59:31.739
I actually went up into my cupboard yesterday and found my old box where I'd written down to that point, every episode of Star Trek, on bits of paper, and told them up and put them in a box.

1080
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:33.900
I just had to wait to meet you, really.

1081
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:35.820
I do a randomiser.

1082
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:45.000
A small shout out to Dave Rennie, who, in fact, regularly uses the randomiser and often tweets about the episodes that he got as well.

1083
00:59:45.059 --> 00:59:46.079
Yeah, yeah.

1084
00:59:46.139 --> 00:59:59.400
So there's 940 episodes at the moment as we record. that you can choose from, but I'm going to choose from the 97 episodes of Enterprise that exist, and here am I pressing the most 100.

1085
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:01.440
Stalling, isn't it?

1086
01:00:01.500 --> 01:00:02.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1087
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:07.199
Your random Star Trek Enterprise episode is minefield.

1088
01:00:07.260 --> 01:00:09.300
Season 2, episode 3.

1089
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:15.719
Well, it looks like it's the great bomb dissection episode from Enterprise.

1090
01:00:15.780 --> 01:00:20.639
Jammer gives it 3 stars, which is not promising because we don't use slightly.

1091
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:22.260
It's a bit of a bam, he reckons.

1092
01:00:23.820 --> 01:00:27.599
And 2 stars better than the magics of Makers 2.

1093
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:29.219
Yeah, all right.

1094
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:30.119
I'm gonna pick another one.

1095
01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:33.420
Silent enemy, season one, episode 12.

1096
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:38.820
Oh, do you know, series one is such a blank spot to me because I never get through it.

1097
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:40.619
Let's have a quick look.

1098
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:49.980
He says, silent enemy, might as well be called the McGuffin enemy, because that's what the enemy here is, big McGuffin.

1099
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:51.840
Well, that's most Star Trek episodes, isn't it?

1100
01:00:51.900 --> 01:00:54.059
Average, he says, 2.5 stars.

1101
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.219
It doesn't as good as Ben.

1102
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:57.780
We do have to, yeah.

1103
01:00:57.840 --> 01:00:59.880
We have to do average ones.

1104
01:00:59.940 --> 01:01:02.159
We do have to do average ones, but you know what?

1105
01:01:02.219 --> 01:01:03.780
After doing such a great TNG.

1106
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:05.880
Let's try and find something.

1107
01:01:05.940 --> 01:01:06.360
All right.

1108
01:01:06.420 --> 01:01:12.480
I think you're right Ah, we've rolled this one before. and I am intrigued.

1109
01:01:12.539 --> 01:01:15.300
This is season two, episode two, carbon Creek.

1110
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:17.039
Why did we do that one?

1111
01:01:17.099 --> 01:01:17.880
I can't even remember.

1112
01:01:17.940 --> 01:01:24.300
I think we thought it was a little bit low-key. can't remember, but we did decide against it.

1113
01:01:24.420 --> 01:01:29.760
Jama gives this one star less than Bem, one. 5 stars out four.

1114
01:01:29.820 --> 01:01:33.119
It was originally 2 stars, but changed his mind.

1115
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:37.380
I didn't mind this, but I still think you should roll again.

1116
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:37.920
Okay.

1117
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:48.239
Season one, episode 15 Shadows of Pajam, and we've mentioned Pajam.

1118
01:01:48.300 --> 01:01:49.559
I can't even remember what it is.

1119
01:01:49.619 --> 01:01:50.159
Is it a?

1120
01:01:50.219 --> 01:01:52.559
It was in, it was in the Vulcan.

1121
01:01:52.619 --> 01:01:55.800
Yeah, the in series 4, wasn't it?

1122
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.300
Jama says it's mediocrity at its finest.

1123
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.579
Oh, dear.

1124
01:02:02.579 --> 01:02:03.780
That's what we're tuning in for.

1125
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:05.940
Perfectly.

1126
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:06.360
Yes.

1127
01:02:06.539 --> 01:02:08.460
Maybe one more time.

1128
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:09.480
Try another one.

1129
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:11.400
Let's make it this one, though. whatever you hit.

1130
01:02:12.539 --> 01:02:17.579
Season four, episode 18, in a mirror darkly.

1131
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:18.539
Yes.

1132
01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:19.860
Oh, yes, let's do it.

1133
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:21.659
Is that a one part episode?

1134
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:23.519
It's a two-part episode.

1135
01:02:23.579 --> 01:02:25.260
It's got the corn in it.

1136
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:29.039
They make Hoshi look like a sexy bitch and she's evil.

1137
01:02:29.099 --> 01:02:30.659
Please let's do it.

1138
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:33.659
Both of those episodes, you know, if it's a two-parter.

1139
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:36.360
So what's the other episode called?

1140
01:02:36.420 --> 01:02:37.079
Do you know?

1141
01:02:37.139 --> 01:02:39.659
It's called Inner Mirror Darkly part two.

1142
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:40.980
Oh, okay.

1143
01:02:40.980 --> 01:02:43.019
That's imaginative.

1144
01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:45.539
Listen to this, though.

1145
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:47.219
Listen to this.

1146
01:02:47.219 --> 01:02:47.940
I know how it starts.

1147
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:49.980
It has its own opening titles.

1148
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:51.179
It does.

1149
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:53.039
And that's one of many things that gets right.

1150
01:02:53.099 --> 01:02:54.780
In the mirror universe.

1151
01:02:54.840 --> 01:03:02.639
Archer stages a power play to take over the enterprise, initially under the command of Captain Forrest, and diverts it deep into Folian space.

1152
01:03:02.699 --> 01:03:05.880
We see the folian web again as well. brilliant.

1153
01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:08.579
Do you remember them really leaning into TOS at this point?

1154
01:03:08.579 --> 01:03:17.820
And this is the one time, I swear, it's the one time where Enterprise chills the fuck out for a couple of episodes and has fun.

1155
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:19.980
Oh, please let's do that. let's do that.

1156
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:21.059
That's a brilliant idea.

1157
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:21.780
That's awesome.

1158
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:22.380
Brilliant.

1159
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.940
You've been listening to untitled Star Trek Project with Joe Ford and Nathan Bottomley.

1160
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:42.059
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1161
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:47.460
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1162
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:52.980
This episode was recorded on the 30th of July, 2024, and released on the 9th of August.

1163
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We'll see you next time for Star Trek Enterprise, Inner Mirror Darkly, and Inner Mirror Darkly, Part 2.

1164
01:04:14.579 --> 01:04:18.059
I love doing that, you know, it's like, I'm, like, collecting my thoughts, you know.

1165
01:04:18.059 --> 01:04:21.719
You just get all these random messages from me about the episode.

1166
01:04:21.780 --> 01:04:23.340
Yeah, no, that was good.

1167
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:23.760
That was good.

1168
01:04:23.820 --> 01:04:25.860
Did you did you press the other record as well?

1169
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:26.760
I did.

1170
01:04:26.820 --> 01:04:27.300
I did.

1171
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:28.619
Excellent.

1172
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:34.619
I'm just gonna take all of the big list of episodes.

1173
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:37.800
Copy.

1174
01:04:38.340 --> 01:04:40.980
And then just paste it in here.

1175
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:46.019
Season two.

1176
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:48.599
Did you watch the...

1177
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:56.219
Did you watch the, um, um, recording?

1178
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:56.579
Yeah.

1179
01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.059
Did you watch that clip that I sent you from Strange New World?

1180
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.099
I had already seen it.

1181
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:03.719
Okay, okay.

1182
01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:05.280
I wanted because you were quite quick.

1183
01:05:05.340 --> 01:05:09.599
It is, I think, absolutely brilliant, like so great.

1184
01:05:09.659 --> 01:05:13.139
And like, um, what's her face?

1185
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:14.940
I can't even remember that character's name.

1186
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:16.619
Is it Pella?

1187
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:17.400
What's she called?

1188
01:05:17.460 --> 01:05:20.159
The engineering woman?

1189
01:05:20.219 --> 01:05:23.159
The lanthanite, the woman from Kimmy Schmidt?

1190
01:05:23.579 --> 01:05:24.960
Okay.

1191
01:05:25.019 --> 01:05:29.159
You know, she says, oh, it doesn't work on me that that looked like so much fun.

1192
01:05:29.219 --> 01:05:39.900
And then she goes, um, it's like when I took LSD in the 1960s and the 1990s and then last July, like it didn't work on me.

1193
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:55.320
Like, I just think she's the best thing ever, and I'm hugely excited that she's in it because Scotty's in that clip, and I thought that, you know, Scotty would replace her and we wouldn't get Scott, we wouldn't get her in series 3, but I'm really glad she's in series 3 because I think she's fucking magnificent. to watch series two.

1194
01:05:55.380 --> 01:05:57.539
Yeah, which is really good in series too.

1195
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:08.219
But I mean, clearly the episode that they're doing is the sort of annual sex comedy or annual comedy about, you know, Spock as a Vulcan.

1196
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:11.639
Suddenly everybody is a Vulcan.

1197
01:06:11.699 --> 01:06:14.880
Suddenly, everybody's Vulcan, and they're better at being a Vulcan than him.

1198
01:06:14.940 --> 01:06:15.659
Like, that's the point.

1199
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:31.559
Like, and even that 4.5 Vulcans to beam down, you know, and they just solve the problem in in like 30 seconds and then being back up and presumably the rest of the episode is just them being Vulcans and being better at it than Spark.

1200
01:06:31.619 --> 01:06:37.920
But all of these people losing their shit online about it being racist to Vulcans.

1201
01:06:37.980 --> 01:06:39.480
Have you seen that?

1202
01:06:40.500 --> 01:06:43.500
They do know it's not a real species, right?

1203
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:44.579
crazy.

1204
01:06:44.579 --> 01:06:45.780
It's so crazy.

1205
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:50.699
They're kind of going, but you couldn't, what about culture?

1206
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:54.480
You know, it's not just DNA, it's culture.

1207
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.260
You don't get that from a hyper, hyper spray.

1208
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.420
I mean, you can't get DNA.

1209
01:07:00.420 --> 01:07:01.800
Have you seen Genesis?

1210
01:07:01.860 --> 01:07:03.000
Yeah, that's right.

1211
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:05.280
You could do a lot with a hyper spray.

1212
01:07:05.340 --> 01:07:06.840
Oh my god.

1213
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:12.539
And when Riker and Troy became the Mintarkins, who watches the watches?

1214
01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:18.000
Yeah, but they didn't become, you know, Mint Harkins, they just put their ears on them.

1215
01:07:18.059 --> 01:07:18.960
Do you know what I mean?

1216
01:07:19.019 --> 01:07:25.440
But this is them becoming Valcans and you've got, you know, Pike with massively tall hair and and like, you know, brave hair.

1217
01:07:25.500 --> 01:07:33.480
These are people that only watch Star Trek and it is their entire life and their houses have been turned into Starships and they wear the uniforms.

1218
01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:36.960
It's a sense of perspective whatsoever.

1219
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:40.079
But it's also a way of watching Star Trek too.

1220
01:07:40.139 --> 01:07:40.980
Do you know what I mean?

1221
01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:43.800
where the races are kind of real.

1222
01:07:43.860 --> 01:07:48.599
And, and so, so, this is, you had this conversation with me.

1223
01:07:48.659 --> 01:07:56.400
You know, and you go, no, no, this pretend person that they're saying is real is no less real than the real the pretend people you're watching all the time.

1224
01:07:56.460 --> 01:07:57.539
But these people don't think that.

1225
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:01.559
No, they do think they are watching future history take place.

1226
01:08:01.619 --> 01:08:02.579
That's right.

1227
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:07.380
So it's like a Vulcan isn't really an alien race in an ancient culture.

1228
01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:11.099
It's a type of character that we get on Star Trek.

1229
01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:15.539
And so we get, you know, like them being that type of character.

1230
01:08:15.659 --> 01:08:18.539
The fact that you would even need to spell that out is astonishing.

1231
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:22.439
Like, what did they think of Wedge Doodge?

1232
01:08:22.500 --> 01:08:25.020
Do you remember that episode of Lower Decks?

1233
01:08:25.020 --> 01:08:29.340
It's 3 ships and it's like the...

1234
01:08:29.340 --> 01:08:35.760
The Falcon ship and the, and the, and the Klingon ship and I guess the, you know, the Cerritos.

1235
01:08:35.819 --> 01:08:39.539
And but that makes fun of the Falcans as well in the same way.

1236
01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:49.140
Just think there's no, there's no point trying to rationalise with these people. because you never will make them. anything that is not their point of view.

1237
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:54.420
But it's kind of like a bad way of watching television, like an in a bit.

1238
01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:55.979
But that's a lot of television family.

1239
01:08:56.100 --> 01:08:56.880
That's a lot.

1240
01:08:56.939 --> 01:08:58.500
I think that's a small amount.

1241
01:08:58.619 --> 01:09:01.439
I think that's the majority of the fans.

1242
01:09:01.500 --> 01:09:08.699
Yeah, those people that go to conventions that consider this an enormous culture rather than a television show.

1243
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:10.020
Yeah, I do.

1244
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:14.460
I think you and me are the outliers in Star Trek fan community.

1245
01:09:14.460 --> 01:09:17.159
Because, I mean, the show could do both.

1246
01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:18.359
Do you know what I mean?

1247
01:09:18.420 --> 01:09:29.039
And it's entirely possible that that episode lands on. actually being a Vulcan isn't just having the years and that stupid thing and the giant thing.

1248
01:09:29.100 --> 01:09:30.359
Of course he's going to do that, right?

1249
01:09:30.420 --> 01:09:30.960
That's just that.

1250
01:09:31.020 --> 01:09:32.699
So it's almost certainly going to be that.

1251
01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:40.380
And it's going to be that because he's grown up Vulcan and it dealt with issues of identity and stuff like that.

1252
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:42.720
He's a real Vulcan in a way that they aren't.

1253
01:09:42.779 --> 01:09:46.319
Like that's almost certainly how the TV episode's going to go.

1254
01:09:46.380 --> 01:09:49.560
But because they're so bad at watching TV.

1255
01:09:49.619 --> 01:09:51.000
They can't even kind of work that out.

1256
01:09:51.060 --> 01:09:52.500
It's very odd.

1257
01:09:52.619 --> 01:09:53.880
I will say one thing.

1258
01:09:54.420 --> 01:10:00.119
I am a little bored of Spock wrestling with his Vulcan heritage now.

1259
01:10:00.180 --> 01:10:04.800
I mean, we've done this a long, long, long, long, long, long.

1260
01:10:04.859 --> 01:10:08.699
We've got a great new actor in the park, but we are sort of.

1261
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.460
We're going over old grounds with better writers.

1262
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:14.579
So that's a good thing, but it is kind of...

1263
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:19.800
Concept thing, like the 1st episode where he swaps bodies with Dupreme, which is just unbelievably great.

1264
01:10:19.859 --> 01:10:29.460
And then the 2nd episode where he becomes human just in time to meet his in-laws and he has to pretend to be Vulcan because he becomes human.

1265
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:32.579
Like, again, is so funny and so ridiculous.

1266
01:10:32.699 --> 01:10:38.579
Like, Spocks do ridiculous things in the original series, lest these Star Trek fans forget, you know?

1267
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:39.180
Yeah.

1268
01:10:39.180 --> 01:10:41.819
Like, it's not like this is a new idea, you know.

1269
01:10:41.819 --> 01:10:47.039
Spock the centre of a Star Trek comedy and doing crazy wacky things with him.

1270
01:10:47.100 --> 01:10:48.420
But I think it's taking the piss.

1271
01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:49.859
It ain't.

1272
01:10:49.859 --> 01:10:51.060
It's having fun with the character.

1273
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:51.840
Yeah, exactly.

1274
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Have fun with Star Trek fans.