WEBVTT

NOTE
This transcript was created on 2026-05-01 at 19:43:06

1
00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:25.019
Hey, Joe. Hi.

2
00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:29.519
So, we are back in Star Trek, the Next Generation's imperial

3
00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:30.120
phase.

4
00:00:30.179 --> 00:00:32.039
This, for me, all hail.

5
00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:33.060
Season three.

6
00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:36.240
This for me is Star Trek at its greatest.

7
00:00:36.299 --> 00:00:37.799
This is what really brought me in.

8
00:00:37.859 --> 00:00:41.280
I 1st watched series one and loved that, but obviously it was

9
00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:41.640
terrible.

10
00:00:41.700 --> 00:00:45.659
But watching series 3 is what sort of cemented me as a fan.

11
00:00:45.659 --> 00:00:51.359
And that season, maybe 34 and 5, perhaps 6, I think, is, you know

12
00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:54.600
as good as Star Trek gets.

13
00:00:54.659 --> 00:00:59.460
But, uh, like everything is just sort of going incredibly well.

14
00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:05.579
And this, I think, is really remarkable in that it absolutely

15
00:01:05.579 --> 00:01:11.400
highlights all of Star Trek's flaws and makes fun of them. comments

16
00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:12.299
on them a lot.

17
00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:13.260
Yeah, yeah.

18
00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:15.540
In some great dialogue.

19
00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:16.019
Yeah.

20
00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:21.000
So this is deja Q, which is about halfway through series three.

21
00:01:21.060 --> 00:01:28.379
We have had 3 Q episodes before this, Encounter at FarPoint, hide

22
00:01:28.379 --> 00:01:32.640
and queue in series one, and Qhu in series two.

23
00:01:32.700 --> 00:01:36.840
And so this becomes an annual thing, doesn't it?

24
00:01:36.900 --> 00:01:38.939
We get John Delancey back as queue each year.

25
00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.599
They're basically getting better and better, these cute episodes

26
00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:43.739
as they go along.

27
00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.799
And in fact, I think they're putting in the punters now because

28
00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:50.760
this is the 2nd highest rated episode of series 3 after

29
00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:52.079
yesterday's enterprise.

30
00:01:52.140 --> 00:01:55.500
I think John Delancey, because he was there in those previous

31
00:01:55.500 --> 00:01:58.200
episodes, people are starting to go, oh, man, he was a really fun

32
00:01:58.200 --> 00:01:58.859
character.

33
00:01:59.159 --> 00:02:00.000
I mean don't get me wrong.

34
00:02:00.060 --> 00:02:03.239
This season's getting sort of 10000000 viewers, which is the sort

35
00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:07.859
of viewing figures that DS9 and Voyager would have wept over if

36
00:02:07.859 --> 00:02:09.539
they'd have ever got them, you know?

37
00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:12.719
But these are pushing towards 12 million.

38
00:02:12.780 --> 00:02:14.759
This is yesterday's enterprise, which is huge.

39
00:02:14.819 --> 00:02:17.639
That's huge for genre television in America.

40
00:02:17.699 --> 00:02:20.219
But I remember it being this big.

41
00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:24.360
Like I remember that time, like when this was airing, how huge

42
00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:25.259
this was.

43
00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.580
You know, this was my last year at university, like I was an adult

44
00:02:29.580 --> 00:02:30.360
by this point.

45
00:02:30.419 --> 00:02:34.919
And, you know, like I remember getting tapes from the US because

46
00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:39.539
they hadn't been shown here and seeing episodes with friend of the

47
00:02:39.539 --> 00:02:42.479
podcast, James Farrow, you know, showing me all of this sort of

48
00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:42.900
stuff.

49
00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:51.060
And like this, you know, The Q trajectory, this is where Q lands, I

50
00:02:51.060 --> 00:02:52.199
think, properly.

51
00:02:52.259 --> 00:02:57.539
So in the 1st episode, he's here to judge humanity and he's

52
00:02:57.539 --> 00:03:02.580
threatening and odd, but he's not funny the way that he is here.

53
00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.219
He's certainly not funny in hide and cue.

54
00:03:05.340 --> 00:03:09.599
He's threatening in Qhu and Qhu benefits enormously from the

55
00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:10.979
introduction of the Borg.

56
00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:12.659
Like that makes it a really proper event.

57
00:03:12.900 --> 00:03:15.180
And he's great in it.

58
00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.819
Rot Berry in encounter a PowerPoint.

59
00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:21.900
Roddenberry is doing that sort of almighty god figure that he

60
00:03:21.900 --> 00:03:23.159
loved in TOS.

61
00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:26.759
And then they handed the role to John Delancey, who's really a

62
00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:27.719
funny bloke.

63
00:03:27.780 --> 00:03:31.319
And I think they changed the trajectory very quickly because in

64
00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:34.560
hide and cue, even though a lot of the comedy doesn't land, There

65
00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.060
is a lot of comedy in that episode.

66
00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:36.960
Right.

67
00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.060
So they're sort of trying to play to his strengths.

68
00:03:39.060 --> 00:03:40.680
And then calm Q-hoo.

69
00:03:40.740 --> 00:03:44.340
There's a quote on memory alpha where they say Maurice Hurley saw

70
00:03:44.340 --> 00:03:49.139
Q as he always wanted Q to be somebody that was teaching humanity

71
00:03:49.139 --> 00:03:49.800
a lesson.

72
00:03:49.860 --> 00:03:53.460
So that's absolutely what Q-hoo is about him saying, you know, it's

73
00:03:53.460 --> 00:03:54.599
a dangerous place out there.

74
00:03:54.659 --> 00:03:57.120
You know, be careful because you're going to get a bloody nose

75
00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:58.139
every now and again.

76
00:03:58.199 --> 00:03:59.460
Oh, by the way, here's the Borg.

77
00:03:59.580 --> 00:04:05.099
Whereas the creators of series 3, their take on cue was that he

78
00:04:05.099 --> 00:04:08.039
was a trickster and that he would come along and just sort of

79
00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:11.400
sturdy ants nest every now and again and have fun with the people

80
00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:13.800
on the Enterprise, which is basically what we do from this point

81
00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:14.039
on.

82
00:04:14.099 --> 00:04:15.060
Yeah.

83
00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:19.620
So what we have here with Star Trek the Next Generation is because

84
00:04:19.620 --> 00:04:23.579
it's a show about competent people solving space problems and

85
00:04:23.579 --> 00:04:25.199
because everyone's their job.

86
00:04:25.259 --> 00:04:30.000
And because it's the 24th century and we're all space people, we're

87
00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.939
not really relaxed, we don't do pop culture references.

88
00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.639
You know, everyone has a bit of a stick up there, Bart.

89
00:04:35.699 --> 00:04:39.839
That means that when Q comes along, his job is to puncture all of

90
00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:41.040
that and undermine it.

91
00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.939
And so he just annoys everyone. very well.

92
00:04:45.420 --> 00:04:50.579
And so, like, that's a weakness of Star Trek, the Next Generation

93
00:04:50.579 --> 00:04:52.439
that space people thing.

94
00:04:52.500 --> 00:04:56.519
Like, I think that the the idea of competent people solving space

95
00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:00.120
problems is what Star Trek is, you know, that's what the original

96
00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:00.779
show was.

97
00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:02.459
That's what Strange New Worlds is doing.

98
00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:07.620
But for like 179 episodes, that is a bit wearying. if that's all

99
00:05:07.620 --> 00:05:09.060
we are doing and no one's sure.

100
00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:09.899
We've had moments.

101
00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:12.360
When we did disaster, there were moments where people would

102
00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:12.660
chill.

103
00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:15.180
We were talking about Riker in that episode and people were like

104
00:05:15.180 --> 00:05:17.759
we were like, oh, it's so refreshing to see the charm of this

105
00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.939
actor, this man coming through on the screen and not just being

106
00:05:20.939 --> 00:05:22.920
some robot going through the procedural.

107
00:05:22.980 --> 00:05:23.699
Yeah.

108
00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:24.360
Yeah.

109
00:05:24.420 --> 00:05:28.740
But I mean, I mean, at this moment, like this episode has them

110
00:05:28.740 --> 00:05:32.279
solving a space problem, which is an asteroid is going to crash

111
00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:36.480
into... the moon is going to crash into the planet Briel 4.

112
00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:38.639
Let it happen.

113
00:05:38.699 --> 00:05:39.540
She's very boring.

114
00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:44.699
And there's no way that at this time that would have been

115
00:05:44.699 --> 00:05:48.000
sufficient premise for a Star Trek, the next generation episode

116
00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:51.600
because in season 3, we're doing things like yesterday's

117
00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:55.680
enterprise and the offspring and sins of the father and captain's

118
00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:01.439
holiday, hollow pursuits, the most toys, we've got Sarek, you know

119
00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:02.100
the enemy.

120
00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:06.420
All of these things are huge and they're all really super

121
00:06:06.420 --> 00:06:10.139
memorable, at least for me, because this is where I kind of came

122
00:06:10.139 --> 00:06:10.500
in.

123
00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:16.379
So, so the Brielle 4 plot is boring, and it is the sort of thing

124
00:06:16.379 --> 00:06:20.339
that they would, you know, give a 5 minute scene to in a lower

125
00:06:20.339 --> 00:06:24.060
deck episode, if that, you know, in order to make fun of it.

126
00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:25.319
And so...

127
00:06:25.379 --> 00:06:26.459
Just 2 of you on this move?

128
00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:28.079
Blow it up.

129
00:06:28.139 --> 00:06:28.920
That's right.

130
00:06:28.980 --> 00:06:29.819
That's right.

131
00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:36.720
So, so it is like it's kind of making fun of Star Trek by having

132
00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.079
such a kind of boring and routine problem.

133
00:06:40.139 --> 00:06:46.560
Um, but then it gives Q the role of fixing the problem that they

134
00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:48.060
have, which I think is really great.

135
00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:52.860
So this is an episode where Q is human, naturally as a newly

136
00:06:52.860 --> 00:06:57.720
minted human, who else to get him to follow around the ship, but

137
00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:00.420
data, and the 2 of them work really well together.

138
00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.120
Yeah, it's really...

139
00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:04.259
This is the data.

140
00:07:04.259 --> 00:07:07.439
We've done a lot, TNG, and I have not seen a lot of the data that

141
00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:08.579
everybody fell in love with.

142
00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:10.079
This is it.

143
00:07:10.139 --> 00:07:13.439
I love their relationship in this and how good, isn't it?

144
00:07:13.500 --> 00:07:16.860
They're teaching each other what it's like to be human because

145
00:07:16.860 --> 00:07:18.360
neither of them are very good at it.

146
00:07:18.420 --> 00:07:19.560
Yeah, yeah.

147
00:07:19.620 --> 00:07:20.100
Yeah.

148
00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:20.939
Yeah.

149
00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:24.360
But I think, you know, like there is something here as well that

150
00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:25.560
is a little bit touching.

151
00:07:25.620 --> 00:07:29.819
Like the end of it, I think, works really well because you've got

152
00:07:29.819 --> 00:07:34.860
Hugh realising that he's a failure as a human and the data who

153
00:07:34.860 --> 00:07:38.279
isn't human is able to be a better human than him.

154
00:07:38.339 --> 00:07:43.620
And he kind of sees kind of the moral value of being human in a

155
00:07:43.620 --> 00:07:44.040
way.

156
00:07:44.699 --> 00:07:46.560
And so he just goes off and sacrifices himself.

157
00:07:46.620 --> 00:07:50.459
And he kind of refuses to make it a noble self-sacrifice either.

158
00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:51.660
He keeps undermining it.

159
00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.279
It's really terrific.

160
00:07:53.339 --> 00:07:55.019
Like I think it is really quite good.

161
00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:58.740
The best line you said earlier, everyone's got a bug up there, but

162
00:07:58.740 --> 00:08:00.839
no one can really say their feelings about people.

163
00:08:00.899 --> 00:08:03.899
And unfortunately, you know, they spent enough time with Q now

164
00:08:03.899 --> 00:08:06.360
that they actually do secretly care about him a little bit.

165
00:08:06.420 --> 00:08:09.300
So the best line that the whole episode is where Picard goes

166
00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:12.839
tractor him in, you know, it is a perfectly good shuttle.

167
00:08:12.899 --> 00:08:13.620
We don't want to lose that.

168
00:08:14.220 --> 00:08:18.660
I think that's really great because he's making an excuse to Riker

169
00:08:18.660 --> 00:08:20.939
because he's doing it because he really cares.

170
00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:26.699
It's, and it's a, it's a rare moment of subtext.

171
00:08:26.699 --> 00:08:27.480
Very rare.

172
00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:33.840
Well, I have to say as well, like, I can only imagine that the

173
00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:38.519
producers and that were just delighted at the episodes that were

174
00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:40.919
being churned out at this point were halfway through this year, and

175
00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:44.519
like you said, it is one gem after another after 2 very

176
00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:48.059
inconsistent to poor years of next generation.

177
00:08:48.779 --> 00:08:51.960
And at this point, they're just, it feels confident.

178
00:08:52.019 --> 00:08:54.899
There's just something in the air that they can do anything right

179
00:08:54.899 --> 00:08:58.080
now and, you know, bringing in this sitcom actor at the end of

180
00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:01.679
this episode and completely rejecting the entire main cast, the

181
00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:02.460
climax of the story.

182
00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:04.860
You know, it just feels like they can do it.

183
00:09:04.860 --> 00:09:08.460
And from scene to scene, I just found this really funny.

184
00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.679
I was watching this at 4 AM this morning.

185
00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:14.220
I woke up my arm because I was laughing so hard at parts.

186
00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:18.299
And the lines are, they're not always like, you know, gut

187
00:09:18.299 --> 00:09:19.320
splittingly funny.

188
00:09:19.860 --> 00:09:24.659
But I do think there's a lot of clever lines in this and you give

189
00:09:24.659 --> 00:09:27.659
it to people like Whoopi Goldberg, John Delancey, you know?

190
00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:31.559
Even Gates McFadden gets a comedy line in this, for God's sake.

191
00:09:31.620 --> 00:09:33.299
I think she's really good in this episode.

192
00:09:34.860 --> 00:09:37.139
He says to me, what is it?

193
00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.320
Have they exiled you back to this ship or something like that?

194
00:09:40.379 --> 00:09:41.519
I was like, oh please.

195
00:09:41.700 --> 00:09:44.519
No, I just thought this was delightful.

196
00:09:44.580 --> 00:09:47.580
Of all the next chance we've done so far.

197
00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:49.799
This would rank in my top 3 that we've done.

198
00:09:49.860 --> 00:09:51.600
I love watching this back.

199
00:09:51.659 --> 00:09:54.480
And thank God, it's one where I said was good and it was still

200
00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:55.259
good.

201
00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:57.299
You know, time has not lied to me.

202
00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:58.740
No, no.

203
00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:00.120
All right. do you think?

204
00:10:00.179 --> 00:10:04.980
Well, we shall go in, but before we do, I just want to give you a

205
00:10:04.980 --> 00:10:10.139
little peek into what we could have had had the original

206
00:10:10.139 --> 00:10:12.000
production team had their way.

207
00:10:12.059 --> 00:10:17.460
Michael Piller recalls on memory alpha, our 1st take on it was

208
00:10:17.460 --> 00:10:20.940
that Q lost his powers, came aboard and developed a whole story

209
00:10:20.940 --> 00:10:24.240
about how we were about to come into war with the Klingons.

210
00:10:24.299 --> 00:10:25.980
Where's that come from?

211
00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:29.279
It turns out that Q didn't really lose his powers after all.

212
00:10:29.340 --> 00:10:32.639
And he was just playing with us, pulling our strings just so that

213
00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:36.000
he could make himself a hero, become an officer and prove his

214
00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:36.419
value.

215
00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:40.320
That would gut the entire episode of its emotional work, right?

216
00:10:40.379 --> 00:10:42.059
But they realise this.

217
00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:45.179
It goes, it wasn't a bad story, but ultimately we sat down with

218
00:10:45.179 --> 00:10:50.100
Gene and Rick and Gene said, my God, in a moment of, you know, just

219
00:10:50.100 --> 00:10:52.259
realising what Star Trek is about.

220
00:10:52.259 --> 00:10:56.159
He says, if you're going to do a story godlike and brought to

221
00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:57.299
earth, then do it.

222
00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:01.080
Do a story about what it's like to lose everything that you are

223
00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.240
and having to discover your own humanity.

224
00:11:03.299 --> 00:11:06.539
He kind of threw cold water on us and suggested we do it

225
00:11:06.539 --> 00:11:08.460
straightforward and that's what we did.

226
00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:09.899
We made it a comedy.

227
00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:12.960
We made it fun, but I think it has some extraordinary things to

228
00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:13.860
say about humanity.

229
00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.299
Good on Eugene Roddenbury because that original one wouldn't have

230
00:11:18.299 --> 00:11:19.320
been as fun for one.

231
00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.840
It wouldn't have been as moving for another.

232
00:11:21.899 --> 00:11:24.419
And it just wouldn't have felt like Star Trek in the way that this

233
00:11:24.419 --> 00:11:24.659
does.

234
00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.419
Yeah, this is properly good in Star Trek, isn't it?

235
00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:31.440
I just think it's just an ingenious premise to take a god, make

236
00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:34.200
him a human and see a day in his life.

237
00:11:34.259 --> 00:11:35.940
Well, let's go and sing a day in his life.

238
00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:37.019
I think we should.

239
00:11:37.259 --> 00:11:39.299
I'll kind of see.

240
00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:45.659
Five, four, three, two, one and we're off.

241
00:11:46.259 --> 00:11:49.860
So we don't have the usual opening shot.

242
00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:51.480
This is a new effect though.

243
00:11:51.539 --> 00:11:53.519
They're splashing out.

244
00:11:53.580 --> 00:11:54.960
Yeah, they're feeling confident.

245
00:11:55.019 --> 00:11:56.399
No, no, no, no.

246
00:11:56.460 --> 00:12:00.539
It's a new effect for the for the high definition remastering.

247
00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:04.379
Oh, they were definitely feeling flash for that.

248
00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:05.820
Yeah, yeah, because it was much later.

249
00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.960
So here we are in the very boring Star Trek, the Next Generation

250
00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:11.759
environmental disaster storyline.

251
00:12:11.820 --> 00:12:12.419
Yes.

252
00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:15.059
Now, again, it feels like it does feel like this is what the

253
00:12:15.059 --> 00:12:17.519
episode's going to be like for a couple of minutes, doesn't it?

254
00:12:17.580 --> 00:12:18.659
We're like, 0 God, no, please.

255
00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.200
And look at these people, like fucking hell, what were they

256
00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:22.620
thinking?

257
00:12:22.740 --> 00:12:25.320
Like the close-up, really.

258
00:12:25.379 --> 00:12:27.059
I can't they're in the distance.

259
00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:27.960
Oh boy.

260
00:12:28.019 --> 00:12:29.159
No, there they are.

261
00:12:29.220 --> 00:12:29.820
Look, look, look.

262
00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:31.019
So it's the mouth.

263
00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:33.299
It's the mouth. are so bad.

264
00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:35.879
Like they've got these tiny little mouths.

265
00:12:35.940 --> 00:12:38.940
And so they've got latex covering their mouths.

266
00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:40.620
They just look stupid.

267
00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:43.860
I know they're facing planetary destruction, but they just have a

268
00:12:43.860 --> 00:12:45.179
sombre look about them, don't they?

269
00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:46.919
I can't imagine them smiling too much.

270
00:12:46.980 --> 00:12:49.919
Yeah, it's just...

271
00:12:49.980 --> 00:12:52.139
I don't know. dimples.

272
00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:53.580
Oh, those horrible look.

273
00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:55.679
The mouth is like one of those leeches.

274
00:12:55.740 --> 00:12:59.340
Oh no, it's horrible. it's really gross Imagine the 2 of them

275
00:12:59.340 --> 00:12:59.820
kissing.

276
00:13:00.059 --> 00:13:03.000
I know you see, there's all sorts of things that they're not going

277
00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:04.799
to be able to do with those tiny mouths.

278
00:13:04.860 --> 00:13:05.519
It's terrible.

279
00:13:05.580 --> 00:13:06.840
They're just dreadful.

280
00:13:06.899 --> 00:13:08.940
Could we possibly care about these people?

281
00:13:09.059 --> 00:13:11.220
Like, I just couldn't bring myself to care about them.

282
00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:12.600
Yeah, yeah.

283
00:13:12.659 --> 00:13:16.019
And that's part of the problem, I think.

284
00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:17.580
Like you would do something.

285
00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:20.639
If you're a good rider, you would just do something that made them

286
00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.360
seem human, that made them seem relatable, that made them seem

287
00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:24.899
relaxed.

288
00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:27.539
Instead, they're just sort of exposition dumps.

289
00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:30.899
They're explaining the situation here Now, like, there's plenty of

290
00:13:30.899 --> 00:13:35.820
technobabble here, but I do like, uh, he does the technobabble, and

291
00:13:35.820 --> 00:13:38.460
then he says it would be like an ant trying to push a tricycle

292
00:13:38.460 --> 00:13:39.539
which I think, okay.

293
00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:40.980
They love a good...

294
00:13:40.980 --> 00:13:43.139
I love a good metador in the next generation.

295
00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.799
What they do do here, though, is what you talked about last week.

296
00:13:46.860 --> 00:13:49.679
No, sorry, week before in Meridian, is they get the focus right

297
00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:49.860
right?

298
00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.080
Well they've got they've got the space problem here.

299
00:13:52.139 --> 00:13:55.679
But actually, the focus of the episode is cute with the space

300
00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:59.700
problem as something for them to sort out on the side, whereas in

301
00:13:59.700 --> 00:14:02.700
Meridian, it was a big space problem and the romance was an

302
00:14:02.700 --> 00:14:04.320
afterfall. that's right.

303
00:14:04.379 --> 00:14:05.159
That's right.

304
00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:07.259
Well, I mean, this doesn't have a B plot, does it?

305
00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.360
I mean, maybe the space problem's the beep part.

306
00:14:09.419 --> 00:14:10.500
I think it is kind of...

307
00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.679
Why does Geordie La Forge constantly shout out its technobabble

308
00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:14.220
lines in this?

309
00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:16.919
Is it just to add some urgency to that dull plot?

310
00:14:16.980 --> 00:14:22.620
Yeah, I think, like, I always sort of view, um, he's the guy on

311
00:14:22.620 --> 00:14:24.360
location and oh, here we go.

312
00:14:24.419 --> 00:14:26.759
So this is John Delantey actually naked.

313
00:14:26.820 --> 00:14:29.700
He's trying to see...

314
00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:34.259
He tries to shoot the scene with a modesty pouch on, but it can't

315
00:14:34.259 --> 00:14:37.200
work and so he just drops his robe and he's got his dick out

316
00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:39.480
apparently, in reality.

317
00:14:39.539 --> 00:14:40.440
The actors.

318
00:14:40.500 --> 00:14:41.580
Nobody knew.

319
00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:46.980
Patrick Stewart was like, what is going on on my bridge?

320
00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:49.740
You couldn't do that now.

321
00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:51.840
Like, this is not in 90.

322
00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:54.539
You absolutely wouldn't be able to get away with that.

323
00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.039
You're in trouble for that.

324
00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:56.759
Yeah.

325
00:14:56.820 --> 00:14:58.799
It's a funny animal, total.

326
00:14:59.220 --> 00:15:03.059
Couldn't they do a dramatic zoom on Stuart's face when it

327
00:15:03.059 --> 00:15:03.299
happened?

328
00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:08.759
Oh, dude, but like, thank God he's here though, right?

329
00:15:08.820 --> 00:15:09.960
You know, after that.

330
00:15:10.019 --> 00:15:11.940
Two minutes of technobabble.

331
00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:15.720
He shows some awareness of the genre because he smiles and says

332
00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:16.559
red alert.

333
00:15:16.620 --> 00:15:20.100
You know, he's kind of aware that he's playing into the opening

334
00:15:20.100 --> 00:15:21.179
credits.

335
00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:26.159
You know, as a formal, like I always kind of think that he should

336
00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:29.519
have a little bit more awareness that he's on a TV show as an

337
00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:30.659
omnipotent deity.

338
00:15:31.019 --> 00:15:34.559
And obviously he's not that right now, but he certainly knows

339
00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:35.279
what's going to happen.

340
00:15:35.340 --> 00:15:39.899
I think it's so funny that effectively, he's a child that's been

341
00:15:39.899 --> 00:15:40.860
so naughty.

342
00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:44.639
He's had all of his toys taken off him by his parents. you know?

343
00:15:44.700 --> 00:15:45.419
Yeah.

344
00:15:45.419 --> 00:15:50.639
And as we see later with the, I forget what that cloud creature's

345
00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:50.940
called.

346
00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:52.740
Calamarine.

347
00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:53.279
Yeah.

348
00:15:53.340 --> 00:15:56.220
So if they're not watching him, He was about to do something

349
00:15:56.220 --> 00:15:58.139
terrible sort of at the end of the episode, wasn't he?

350
00:15:58.200 --> 00:15:59.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

351
00:15:59.879 --> 00:16:04.080
But it's so nice to have a naughty character in the next

352
00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:04.500
generation.

353
00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:06.539
It's like you said, you know, with Marina so.

354
00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:08.100
Everyone's so bloody serious in this thing.

355
00:16:08.460 --> 00:16:10.679
It's nice to see someone having fun.

356
00:16:10.740 --> 00:16:11.940
Yeah.

357
00:16:11.940 --> 00:16:15.059
Like Star Trek should be fun and it can be fun.

358
00:16:15.059 --> 00:16:16.860
And anyone that says it shouldn't be fun.

359
00:16:16.980 --> 00:16:18.360
Wow.

360
00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:20.820
Well, I mean, that's what Strange New World is doing.

361
00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:22.679
Like Strange New World is properly fun.

362
00:16:22.740 --> 00:16:25.259
Like those, it has funny episodes.

363
00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:26.940
It has funny lines.

364
00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.399
It has genuinely relaxed and likeable characters.

365
00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:34.799
Star Trek the Next Generation eventually has relaxed and likeable

366
00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:35.340
characters.

367
00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:39.299
I mean, I like these characters, but they're not very. change

368
00:16:39.299 --> 00:16:39.779
chill.

369
00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:42.720
Change that opening captain's log there.

370
00:16:42.779 --> 00:16:45.840
He goes, you know, we've still got no idea of the cause of this

371
00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:49.080
environmental disaster, but queues come along now.

372
00:16:49.139 --> 00:16:50.580
So the episode's going to get pretty good.

373
00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:52.139
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

374
00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.179
I'm not sure about this outfit.

375
00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.700
Are you looking at his dick in this outfit?

376
00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:58.679
I couldn't take my eyes off his stick.

377
00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:02.100
And of the other queue when it came wrong later in the episode.

378
00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:05.339
I mean, that is a terrible design, isn't it?

379
00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:06.359
It's not good, is it?

380
00:17:06.420 --> 00:17:07.680
I don't know what they're thinking.

381
00:17:07.740 --> 00:17:11.339
We've watched episodes where people have been cinched so much that

382
00:17:11.339 --> 00:17:14.819
their dicks vanish and now there is ones that accentuate

383
00:17:14.819 --> 00:17:15.119
everything.

384
00:17:15.180 --> 00:17:17.279
Well, I don't think it accentuates it.

385
00:17:17.339 --> 00:17:21.059
I think it is kind of held in a bit by the costume, but it is kind

386
00:17:21.059 --> 00:17:21.900
of terrible.

387
00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:23.880
It's not flattering either too.

388
00:17:23.940 --> 00:17:26.759
It's Les Landau directing this episode.

389
00:17:26.819 --> 00:17:29.220
We've done a couple of it so far, you know, he's our sort of box

390
00:17:29.220 --> 00:17:29.759
standard.

391
00:17:29.819 --> 00:17:30.839
Get Leslie.

392
00:17:30.900 --> 00:17:32.519
He'll do it on budget, director.

393
00:17:32.579 --> 00:17:35.640
But I actually think he gauges the tone of this really well.

394
00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:39.900
Yeah, well, I like, so I like this.

395
00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:41.519
So he's...

396
00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:47.700
I start before you defrocks. a lumping human being.

397
00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:50.460
That's how I feel every day, if I want to.

398
00:17:50.460 --> 00:17:53.220
Troy actually looks quite amused by all of this.

399
00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:54.420
Yeah, yeah.

400
00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:58.559
She gets a bit of a zinger in a bit later where she says, oh, I am

401
00:17:58.559 --> 00:17:59.339
sensing something.

402
00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:01.680
I would normally call it being terrified.

403
00:18:01.740 --> 00:18:05.700
You know, she's terrible later yet, but...

404
00:18:05.700 --> 00:18:08.700
The conclusion I draw later, which is correct, he became human

405
00:18:08.700 --> 00:18:12.000
because he knew he's pissed off all of these species and there is

406
00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:12.660
no production.

407
00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:16.259
No chance that they might protect him if he's charming enough.

408
00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:20.460
What he dismissed was the Picard face palm meme.

409
00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:21.779
Did you notice that?

410
00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:23.220
Yes, I did.

411
00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.880
He's like, are you not aware we've got all this boring tet babble

412
00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:31.740
to get through with no time for this queue?

413
00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:37.319
But that's the actual, so it's great to know that the face palm

414
00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.019
meme is a reaction to John Delancey's cue.

415
00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:41.579
Yeah.

416
00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:46.380
Nah, that name has gone on to have a life of his own, isn't it?

417
00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:49.980
Cue the miserable cue, the desperate...

418
00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:52.619
What must I do to convince you people?

419
00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:53.400
Die.

420
00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:59.400
No, it goes, have you eaten any good books lately, Worf?

421
00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:04.680
In fact, there's a load of great gags at water expense sorts.

422
00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:06.779
Have you never heard of the boy who cried wharf?

423
00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:07.980
It goes a war boy.

424
00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:11.099
I actually think those lines are pretty terrible and we are

425
00:19:11.099 --> 00:19:12.240
grading on a curve.

426
00:19:12.299 --> 00:19:15.539
No, I think they're very far offence.

427
00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.059
No, no, no. was laughing as well.

428
00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:21.299
I was laughing as well disappointed me, Jean-Luc. very

429
00:19:21.299 --> 00:19:21.960
disappointed.

430
00:19:22.019 --> 00:19:23.759
That's really funny.

431
00:19:23.819 --> 00:19:24.900
That's really bad.

432
00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:26.940
And then the complaint about being claustrophobic.

433
00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:30.839
Like, just how annoying he is as a human and how self-concerned he

434
00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:31.259
is.

435
00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:32.160
This is a great shot.

436
00:19:32.220 --> 00:19:36.900
Where he, yeah, but where he now lays out all of the problems with

437
00:19:36.900 --> 00:19:37.619
being a human.

438
00:19:37.740 --> 00:19:38.160
Do you think so?

439
00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:42.839
that he doesn't want to, he has to not be naked, like some stupid

440
00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:44.160
thing about human morality.

441
00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:46.319
It's like I'm going to walk around with these clothes on.

442
00:19:46.380 --> 00:19:49.740
You know, not sure we could have, you know, put things in front of

443
00:19:49.740 --> 00:19:51.480
his bits throughout the entire episode.

444
00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.279
I love how he says having a breath and then having a pimple?

445
00:19:56.339 --> 00:20:00.960
No, he says bad breath and having to bathe, but I think he looks

446
00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:01.500
at wolf.

447
00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:04.019
Yeah, I think wolf should have come into shot a bit earlier

448
00:20:04.019 --> 00:20:04.680
there.

449
00:20:04.740 --> 00:20:07.920
But it is pretty great having him stalking around the outside of

450
00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.859
the turbo lift and then eventually coming face to face with wharf

451
00:20:10.859 --> 00:20:11.400
is trying.

452
00:20:11.460 --> 00:20:12.539
That's pretty good.

453
00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:14.940
And now he's decided he should have been a Klingon.

454
00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:18.059
He's really basically a Klingon, and then later on he's going, as

455
00:20:18.059 --> 00:20:20.519
a fellow Klingon, speaking to the captain on my behalf.

456
00:20:20.579 --> 00:20:21.660
It's like really great.

457
00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:22.740
He's so annoying.

458
00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.799
And the eternally grateful, I would be eternally grateful, which

459
00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:29.579
admittedly doesn't mean as much as it used to, which again, I

460
00:20:29.579 --> 00:20:30.539
think is a brilliant line.

461
00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:35.099
I know more than you could win a beauty contest.

462
00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:38.640
I do know what you mean because there is a scene in Purgatory

463
00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:42.779
Shadow that we did where Garak tries to convince Worf to put in a

464
00:20:42.779 --> 00:20:46.680
commendation for him, to Captain Cisco, and it is much wittier and

465
00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:48.119
better written than this.

466
00:20:48.180 --> 00:20:50.400
Yeah, for instance.

467
00:20:50.460 --> 00:20:52.799
Yeah, he has so much charisma.

468
00:20:52.859 --> 00:20:53.819
Yeah that's it.

469
00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:55.440
He could spin a lot.

470
00:20:55.500 --> 00:20:57.240
Yeah, terrible line and make it very funny.

471
00:20:57.299 --> 00:20:59.640
The boy who cried wolf.

472
00:20:59.700 --> 00:21:00.839
Yeah that's terrible.

473
00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:07.980
Just immediately how annoyed he is, like immediately he's locked

474
00:21:07.980 --> 00:21:08.160
up.

475
00:21:08.220 --> 00:21:10.740
Although, we've seen the media very often, do we?

476
00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:11.460
Sorry?

477
00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:12.839
We're in the we're in the brick now.

478
00:21:12.900 --> 00:21:14.700
Oh, he goes, Romulan.

479
00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:18.420
I should have said Romulan.

480
00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:21.779
Oh, boy.

481
00:21:21.779 --> 00:21:25.500
We get Don Delancey back as Q. Remember?

482
00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:28.559
We did that episode at the end of series 2 of Picard.

483
00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:30.180
Ah, yeah.

484
00:21:30.180 --> 00:21:33.180
They absolutely had...

485
00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:39.900
Well, no, it's not, but he's great. and making making this about

486
00:21:39.900 --> 00:21:42.839
the relationship between the 2 of them, because I think that was

487
00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:46.619
always a thing, and that's why Q doesn't properly work on Voyager

488
00:21:46.619 --> 00:21:50.460
and obviously doesn't work in that shitty episode of Deep Space

489
00:21:50.460 --> 00:21:50.819
9.

490
00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:58.140
Um, Because it's Picard, you know, like he's Picard's friend and

491
00:21:58.140 --> 00:22:01.920
things like tapestry, where he does this whole thing just to teach

492
00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:08.220
Picard about respecting his own youth, you know, like, um, it's so

493
00:22:08.220 --> 00:22:08.339
good.

494
00:22:08.460 --> 00:22:09.660
I do agree with you.

495
00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:13.440
I do agree that his story is with Jean-Lou Picard, but I think he

496
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:16.319
has great chemistry, John DeLancey, with Kate Mulgrew.

497
00:22:16.380 --> 00:22:18.900
So I'll wash those scenes till the cows come home.

498
00:22:19.140 --> 00:22:23.700
He lives in the bulk of where he's really sexist the whole time

499
00:22:23.700 --> 00:22:25.200
and you kind of think, come on.

500
00:22:25.259 --> 00:22:27.359
Yes, Madam Captain.

501
00:22:27.420 --> 00:22:29.940
No, but Death Witch is a great episode, though.

502
00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.400
It really does have a lot to say that episode.

503
00:22:32.460 --> 00:22:36.660
I hope we get it one day Oh, dear, look, they've somehow managed

504
00:22:36.660 --> 00:22:38.880
to make the bridge even brighter than it normally is.

505
00:22:39.180 --> 00:22:41.400
I have thought that was impossible.

506
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:45.839
Look at Riker's post and I look at it, it's crutched now.

507
00:22:45.900 --> 00:22:46.680
Look at him.

508
00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:48.779
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

509
00:22:50.700 --> 00:22:54.900
You know, this HD in this Bright Lion does no one any favours, does

510
00:22:54.900 --> 00:22:55.079
it?

511
00:22:55.140 --> 00:22:56.880
No, it's really rough, isn't it?

512
00:22:56.940 --> 00:22:59.640
It looks practically vanished because he's an albino.

513
00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:01.740
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

514
00:23:02.460 --> 00:23:07.319
Oh, here comes the little cloud race that want a tortured Q. Yeah

515
00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:08.279
but it sort of disappears.

516
00:23:08.339 --> 00:23:09.119
Is it done to them?

517
00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:10.440
Has he just been...

518
00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.599
He's been playing about them the way they've been tormenting

519
00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:15.000
Picard and the Enterprise, I guess.

520
00:23:15.059 --> 00:23:19.079
I mean, you would, wouldn't you, have you had Q's powers?

521
00:23:19.140 --> 00:23:21.660
No, no, I don't think I would torment people.

522
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:23.039
I think I would...

523
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:28.440
Which would be for the beach on a Greek island somewhere and...

524
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:30.839
The whole universe at your disposal.

525
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.180
I don't need the whole universe.

526
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:38.400
He goes, I'm sitting here alone, helpless, ball to tears.

527
00:23:38.460 --> 00:23:41.160
Well, the self-pity thing is really enjoyable.

528
00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:42.000
It's really great.

529
00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:45.539
And just the fact that he's unable to see that his problems are

530
00:23:45.539 --> 00:23:50.759
less important than the giant, you know, moon falling out of the

531
00:23:50.759 --> 00:23:51.779
sky thing.

532
00:23:51.900 --> 00:23:55.500
Oh, I like the fact that obviously because he's a small bloke.

533
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.019
What they say is IQ's 205 or something like that.

534
00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:02.039
They realise they realise they have a terrible situation and

535
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:03.779
actually he could help.

536
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:05.339
But I love his description.

537
00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:07.920
His description of this terrible thing that he's undergoing.

538
00:24:07.980 --> 00:24:10.740
And Picard just immediately goes, yes, Q, you fell asleep.

539
00:24:10.859 --> 00:24:13.740
The life was oozing out of me.

540
00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:16.200
How terrific.

541
00:24:16.259 --> 00:24:16.980
How do you can you stand?

542
00:24:17.099 --> 00:24:18.299
just goes, yes, you get used to it.

543
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.740
Like, the card is really funny here because he's he's not

544
00:24:22.740 --> 00:24:27.960
convinced and he absolutely refuses at any point to play along

545
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:31.980
with him, even when Q comes to him in his ready room and says, I'm

546
00:24:31.980 --> 00:24:33.900
going to go and just kill myself or whatever.

547
00:24:33.900 --> 00:24:34.559
I'm done.

548
00:24:34.619 --> 00:24:35.940
You know, I am a failure as a human being.

549
00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:36.900
He doesn't help.

550
00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:38.039
He doesn't console him.

551
00:24:38.099 --> 00:24:40.019
He just doesn't engage and it's really good.

552
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:41.819
Like, it's really properly good.

553
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:44.819
And so when he saves him, when he tries to save him, it comes as a

554
00:24:44.819 --> 00:24:46.740
great...

555
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:47.160
Yeah.

556
00:24:47.339 --> 00:24:48.960
I love it.

557
00:24:49.019 --> 00:24:51.180
It doesn't happen too often, the characters surprise me.

558
00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:52.980
The next generation.

559
00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:56.279
And it's great how embarrassed he is about it.

560
00:24:56.339 --> 00:24:59.460
Like, he has to justify himself to Riker. really good.

561
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.039
Just get him out of that fuck. costume.

562
00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:03.839
God, he looks ridiculous.

563
00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:07.319
So bad. even Jake Sisco didn't look that bad.

564
00:25:10.380 --> 00:25:12.180
Oh, date is coming along now.

565
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:16.680
Yeah, so they remember to give this episode some heart, but they

566
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:18.779
do it with the one character that hasn't got a heart.

567
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:20.519
It's wonderful.

568
00:25:20.579 --> 00:25:22.920
Like, he is the character with the most heart.

569
00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:24.539
That's the thing about him, isn't it?

570
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:30.059
There's a line, I remember, in the new Star Trek program guide by

571
00:25:30.059 --> 00:25:32.339
Paul Connell Keith topping and mine day.

572
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:36.539
They said it's the one where he says about, I'll say it when it

573
00:25:36.539 --> 00:25:36.779
comes up.

574
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:40.200
It's about Q being human and it's something that data's always

575
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:40.440
saw.

576
00:25:40.500 --> 00:25:44.160
And on that page, it's a bit shonky, the line.

577
00:25:44.579 --> 00:25:46.799
But the way Brent Spaner delivers it.

578
00:25:46.859 --> 00:25:47.700
It's gorgeous.

579
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:49.200
It sounds like poetry.

580
00:25:49.259 --> 00:25:50.519
Yeah, yeah.

581
00:25:50.579 --> 00:25:53.460
It's also because he doesn't deliver it with any rancour, you know

582
00:25:53.460 --> 00:25:57.720
like he's not jealous and he's not PC. You know, it's you.

583
00:25:57.779 --> 00:25:58.319
What is it?

584
00:25:58.380 --> 00:26:01.559
You have achieved in dishonour what I have always learned.

585
00:26:01.619 --> 00:26:03.119
Yeah, yeah.

586
00:26:03.180 --> 00:26:04.200
It means you have...

587
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:05.339
Here it is.

588
00:26:05.339 --> 00:26:07.380
I have always... required to be.

589
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:08.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

590
00:26:08.099 --> 00:26:10.200
Which is a bit of a...

591
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:11.579
It's cheap.

592
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:16.019
Look, you get a gray reaction from John DeLancey at lands, and

593
00:26:16.019 --> 00:26:19.680
there's a couple of times where people say things to him, and he

594
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:21.720
learns.

595
00:26:21.779 --> 00:26:22.680
Do you know what I mean?

596
00:26:22.740 --> 00:26:25.440
Like the thing about the gods is that they don't care about people

597
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:29.400
and they don't learn and they don't change and they only care

598
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:30.240
about themselves.

599
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:34.259
And you get some of that from Q, but Q properly learns in this

600
00:26:34.259 --> 00:26:34.559
episode.

601
00:26:34.619 --> 00:26:38.460
But these things are so sweet because if you had paired him up

602
00:26:38.460 --> 00:26:39.960
with any other member of the queue.

603
00:26:40.019 --> 00:26:42.539
The crew, there would have been disdain, you know, and they would

604
00:26:42.539 --> 00:26:43.380
have been suspicious.

605
00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:44.759
Whereas they don't have none of that.

606
00:26:44.819 --> 00:26:45.660
I have no emotion.

607
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.119
So it's just really cute between the 2 of them.

608
00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:49.140
I really loved it.

609
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.319
For a 2nd I was like, oh, can you join the crew?

610
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.140
Like, I know he won't, but, like, for a bit.

611
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:59.400
Like, I think that Q is affected by what data says about not...

612
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:00.420
That's why I get him the gift of this.

613
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:02.579
Yeah, yeah, the gift, which is great.

614
00:27:03.180 --> 00:27:04.259
He doesn't have to do that, does he?

615
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:05.519
You could just be right see, yeah.

616
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:07.200
Yeah, it's really good.

617
00:27:07.259 --> 00:27:09.900
He gives Riker a little gift as well, isn't he?

618
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:11.039
Picard a cigar.

619
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.940
My lovely friends, thanks for looking after me.

620
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:16.140
I'm off.

621
00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:18.119
Oh, no, here we go.

622
00:27:18.180 --> 00:27:19.140
Technabble City.

623
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.900
Oh, no, he gets a wonderful line about his stomach rumbling

624
00:27:21.900 --> 00:27:22.380
doesn't he?

625
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

626
00:27:24.059 --> 00:27:27.180
No, he's hurt his back at this point. rumbling.

627
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:28.920
I feel your pain cue, aren't you?

628
00:27:28.980 --> 00:27:29.700
Yeah, yeah.

629
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.220
You can't straighten up, can he?

630
00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:33.960
He can't even straighten up, yeah.

631
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:38.039
In fact, there's a gag in a minute, right?

632
00:27:38.099 --> 00:27:40.259
which I thought on the page, that's not very funny.

633
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.740
You know the whole thing about, I'm hungry, and so he orders 10

634
00:27:43.740 --> 00:27:44.400
desserts.

635
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:46.319
And then that's it.

636
00:27:46.380 --> 00:27:47.460
You don't hear nothing.

637
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.339
And then at the end of the scene, the 2 people are sad in there.

638
00:27:50.339 --> 00:27:51.660
With 10 desserts.

639
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:54.240
And it should be terrible, but actually, because I'd forgotten

640
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:55.980
about the joke at that point. did make me laugh.

641
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:57.480
It is kind of terrible.

642
00:27:58.440 --> 00:27:59.700
The desserts look delicious.

643
00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:00.720
Like, no, hang on.

644
00:28:00.779 --> 00:28:02.339
Remember that for what Japan's are, all right.

645
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:03.599
This is good stuff.

646
00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:05.339
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

647
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:09.839
Oh, change the gravitational constant of the universe.

648
00:28:09.900 --> 00:28:11.160
Now that's how God would think, right?

649
00:28:11.220 --> 00:28:12.660
Yeah, exactly right.

650
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.220
That's how you saw the situation.

651
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:14.940
That's a good idea.

652
00:28:15.059 --> 00:28:16.680
Like, it gives Geordie the idea.

653
00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:23.220
So by putting as much of the of the moon in the front lobe of the

654
00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:27.119
Enterprise's warp field, they make it possible to move it.

655
00:28:27.180 --> 00:28:32.160
And it's described, we see a visual of it, and it's described in a

656
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.140
simpler enough way that we kind of get it.

657
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.059
And so with the technobabble.

658
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:37.980
All that has to happen is we need to know what the characters

659
00:28:37.980 --> 00:28:38.339
want.

660
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:39.299
Do you know what I mean?

661
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:40.380
Like what the characters want.

662
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:41.160
What are they trying to do?

663
00:28:41.220 --> 00:28:43.980
And the technobabble is just there to make it sound like they...

664
00:28:43.980 --> 00:28:45.119
I'm glad there's a visual, though.

665
00:28:45.539 --> 00:28:48.119
Because I'll stop listening, just like I, just stop listening to

666
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:50.400
you just then when you were saying, oh, I don't know why.

667
00:28:50.460 --> 00:28:51.299
My brain just turns off.

668
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:52.440
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

669
00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:53.460
Do you know what I think, right?

670
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.160
I think that the actors love working with John Talazi so much

671
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:58.619
because when they see that he's in it, you know, on the castles at

672
00:28:58.619 --> 00:28:58.859
the front.

673
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.079
They like, oh, we're can have some fun in this episode.

674
00:29:01.140 --> 00:29:03.000
So look at Gates McFadden here.

675
00:29:03.059 --> 00:29:04.859
Yeah, she's really getting into it.

676
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:06.599
Like, she's enjoying herding him.

677
00:29:06.660 --> 00:29:09.599
Your bedside manner is admirable, doctor.

678
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:15.299
But again, I think with Gates, when Gates knows what the lines are

679
00:29:15.299 --> 00:29:15.480
doing.

680
00:29:15.539 --> 00:29:19.920
She's fine and it's when she's given exposition that she's really

681
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:20.940
shit at her.

682
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.019
She's given exposition 80% of the time, Mr. Trump.

683
00:29:25.019 --> 00:29:25.559
I know.

684
00:29:25.619 --> 00:29:28.319
She could have been the best character on this show.

685
00:29:28.380 --> 00:29:30.000
Yeah, it is.

686
00:29:30.059 --> 00:29:30.539
It is.

687
00:29:30.660 --> 00:29:32.759
No, but, like you said, with LaVar Burton.

688
00:29:32.819 --> 00:29:35.759
He can deliver exposition. as if he's talking about going shopping

689
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.460
or something like that. very naturalistic.

690
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:43.500
So my theory about him shouting the exposition is that it's almost

691
00:29:43.500 --> 00:29:45.900
always because he's talking to someone who's not in the room with

692
00:29:45.900 --> 00:29:46.079
him.

693
00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:51.359
And so he's, you know, he's our guy on location and we're in the

694
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.880
studio and it's like, and what's happening down in engineering?

695
00:29:53.940 --> 00:29:55.500
And then you've got Geordie with his face.

696
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:59.640
He's looking towards us, but not at us, and he's talking to

697
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:02.099
someone who's in a completely different room as if he's...

698
00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:04.200
Yeah, recently it doesn't quite...

699
00:30:04.259 --> 00:30:06.839
It feels weird, is because they're all talking in a very flat sort

700
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:07.799
of story.

701
00:30:08.220 --> 00:30:10.140
And he's shouting out every line like this.

702
00:30:10.140 --> 00:30:11.640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

703
00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:14.099
Like the badge is just there on his chest.

704
00:30:14.099 --> 00:30:15.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

705
00:30:15.539 --> 00:30:17.220
But he's doing all the fucking work.

706
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:18.779
They're all sitting there in a chair.

707
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:20.700
Like, he's the one who has to do everything.

708
00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.019
I think LeVar Burton is the Tim Ross of this show in that he could

709
00:30:25.019 --> 00:30:28.380
have been given incredible things to do because I've seen him do

710
00:30:28.380 --> 00:30:29.400
amazing things elsewhere.

711
00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:32.819
And heart, you know, most of the time, he's very competently

712
00:30:32.819 --> 00:30:34.859
delivering a ton of tether babble.

713
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:38.759
But, like, this is the show for that, and he does that incredibly

714
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:39.839
well, I think.

715
00:30:39.900 --> 00:30:43.799
But yeah, it's like, I remember him in Picardo's talent, no.

716
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.819
Well, no, but I mean, this is sort of Star Trek, isn't it, at this

717
00:30:47.819 --> 00:30:48.000
point?

718
00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:49.859
Like, that's what it kind of is.

719
00:30:49.859 --> 00:30:51.779
Look at this 10 chocolate.

720
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:52.380
Hey, you know what?

721
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:53.519
I realised watching this.

722
00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:57.180
I love this bar because it gives them a chance to underlie it.

723
00:30:57.180 --> 00:30:58.319
Yes.

724
00:30:58.380 --> 00:31:00.119
And they never do that on this.

725
00:31:00.180 --> 00:31:02.460
You go and watch Picard.

726
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.039
So many scenes are lit like this from below and sort of

727
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:06.539
practically within the set.

728
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:09.420
This is the one place on the Enterprise where they do that. they

729
00:31:09.420 --> 00:31:09.660
do that.

730
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.059
Yeah, that's on the tables on the bar.

731
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:13.200
Oh, my God.

732
00:31:13.259 --> 00:31:14.759
Here comes Gynan.

733
00:31:14.819 --> 00:31:17.039
I hear the queue continue and kicked you out.

734
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:20.519
It drums you out.

735
00:31:20.579 --> 00:31:21.779
There you go.

736
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:22.740
She's wonderful.

737
00:31:22.740 --> 00:31:23.640
So great.

738
00:31:23.700 --> 00:31:27.359
She picks up that falcon, stabs it into his hand like she means

739
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:27.660
it.

740
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:29.220
It's true.

741
00:31:29.339 --> 00:31:33.000
She goes, you're just one of the boys, aren't you?

742
00:31:34.380 --> 00:31:40.500
But so so we have that sort of slightly stupid scene in Hugh Hu

743
00:31:40.500 --> 00:31:41.700
where they're kind of...

744
00:31:41.700 --> 00:31:43.619
Oh, wow.

745
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.920
For some reason, I don't quite know what that is.

746
00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:48.059
This is great.

747
00:31:48.180 --> 00:31:51.539
And that's just a day's film filming with Whoopi, isn't it?

748
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:52.259
all she's in.

749
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.099
Yeah, she just, um, and this is kind of...

750
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:57.660
I don't think they ever seen it again after this.

751
00:31:57.720 --> 00:31:58.559
It's really sad.

752
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.539
They're brilliant together.

753
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.160
Yes.

754
00:32:02.220 --> 00:32:05.700
Oh, the whole centuries are being omnipotent.

755
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:09.000
That's dumb to your head, cues. says you're a loser.

756
00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:11.759
You're only going to survive on the charity of others.

757
00:32:11.819 --> 00:32:14.940
And I think that's unfair because he is smart and he's, you know

758
00:32:14.940 --> 00:32:19.079
he's working, but she knows that he's not going to fit in, you

759
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:19.380
know.

760
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.960
From now on, I'll do missionary work, okay?

761
00:32:24.299 --> 00:32:27.000
Oh, that line is a bit much.

762
00:32:27.059 --> 00:32:28.859
The robot that teaches the course and humanity.

763
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:30.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

764
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.039
Yeah, go on.

765
00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:33.059
Drive the point home.

766
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.700
That's the lack of subjects, T and G I'm used to.

767
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:36.660
Yeah, exactly right.

768
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:37.440
Exactly right.

769
00:32:37.500 --> 00:32:41.220
But this, that you're pitiful, and that's what he decides, like he

770
00:32:41.220 --> 00:32:43.200
eventually decides that he agrees with her.

771
00:32:43.259 --> 00:32:46.680
But so there was something about her being a dangerous creature

772
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.640
both in this and in human, the hero, the hero, the Sundays, with a

773
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.079
little cherry on this hole, each one.

774
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.960
I'm hungry. well framed shot too, isn't it?

775
00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:56.940
Um, yeah.

776
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.279
Yeah, it's a little bit cheesy.

777
00:32:59.339 --> 00:33:02.880
But remember, there was a... a... a dangerous creature.

778
00:33:02.940 --> 00:33:05.460
She's a dangerous creature and that never pays off.

779
00:33:05.579 --> 00:33:07.019
No.

780
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.200
At this point, we don't know who she is, remember?

781
00:33:10.259 --> 00:33:12.000
By the time we get to Times Arrow.

782
00:33:12.059 --> 00:33:13.920
She's just someone who's having a laugh in history.

783
00:33:13.980 --> 00:33:15.900
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

784
00:33:16.019 --> 00:33:20.220
And then in generations, she's completely she's a solved problem

785
00:33:20.220 --> 00:33:20.759
isn't she?

786
00:33:20.819 --> 00:33:22.619
She's an LA who's been in the nexus.

787
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:25.799
Actually, no, I think he's right, because we don't all be Goldberg

788
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:26.819
to be a villain, do we?

789
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:27.359
or a problem?

790
00:33:27.420 --> 00:33:28.019
No.

791
00:33:28.019 --> 00:33:30.119
We just wanted to make it more dangerous.

792
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.119
And they're gesturing at it, but it never goes anywhere.

793
00:33:33.180 --> 00:33:36.119
But I just have strong memories of not knowing what she was.

794
00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:37.079
Do you know what I mean?

795
00:33:37.140 --> 00:33:39.900
Like that not being a thing that I knew.

796
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:43.740
Star Trek fans like the ambiguity of the lions.

797
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.559
I think, you know, where you can write, you know, 15 spinoff books

798
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:48.900
about it, to try and explain it.

799
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:50.400
We'll never have to read those, but.

800
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:52.140
Oh, here come.

801
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:52.740
What are they called?

802
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:54.180
The calamarine.

803
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:55.079
Yeah.

804
00:33:55.140 --> 00:33:57.059
Can I tell you what, right?

805
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.640
Alamorain is what they shout out in Move Along Home.

806
00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:01.799
I love Marine.

807
00:34:03.539 --> 00:34:06.779
Oh, increasing to 40%. here we go.

808
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:08.219
Back to regular DNG.

809
00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:13.679
So they're increasing the shields to get the calamari now, I

810
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:13.980
guess.

811
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.619
At least Q's being tortured at the same time.

812
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:18.480
You know, that's quite fun. kind of fun.

813
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:23.219
I just love it when he has the cloud in the palm of his hand

814
00:34:23.219 --> 00:34:23.460
though.

815
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:26.400
It just goes, it turns it away, does it?

816
00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:27.480
It just vanishes.

817
00:34:30.539 --> 00:34:33.059
The fact that he has no fucking humility at all.

818
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.519
The 2nd he gets his powers back, he's like, oh, great, right.

819
00:34:35.579 --> 00:34:36.000
Here we go.

820
00:34:36.059 --> 00:34:37.500
I haven't learned a lesson.

821
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.059
No, but you would.

822
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:40.920
I think that's I think that's pretty great.

823
00:34:42.300 --> 00:34:46.559
But Corbin Burnson comes in and prevents him from doing it.

824
00:34:47.340 --> 00:34:50.820
Every time we see that rock, I'm scared we're going to see those

825
00:34:50.820 --> 00:34:52.320
people getting down on the planet.

826
00:34:52.380 --> 00:34:55.619
Yeah, they are terrible, Mr. and Mrs. Boring.

827
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.059
Yeah, yeah.

828
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.039
Yeah, where are they on the Bo Mars scale?

829
00:34:59.099 --> 00:34:59.880
8 or nine.

830
00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:01.559
I mean, it's so high.

831
00:35:01.619 --> 00:35:02.940
It's the, yeah, pretty high.

832
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:04.860
The sort of fluquo mouth.

833
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:05.820
Yeah, yeah.

834
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.760
Like they're trying to deliver dialogue with half of their mouths

835
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:10.679
sort of glued, shut with latex.

836
00:35:10.739 --> 00:35:11.280
It's bad.

837
00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:12.960
You wouldn't want them.

838
00:35:13.019 --> 00:35:17.159
I'm sorry to go here, but you would have wanted them...

839
00:35:17.219 --> 00:35:17.940
Oh, yeah, yeah.

840
00:35:17.940 --> 00:35:19.619
Oh, yeah, yeah.

841
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:20.219
Yeah.

842
00:35:20.219 --> 00:35:22.260
How do they reap notice?

843
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:23.400
We don't want to know.

844
00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:24.480
They don't do that.

845
00:35:24.539 --> 00:35:26.460
Michael Westmore, try again.

846
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:28.920
It's really bad.

847
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.920
It's been since Michael Westmore as well.

848
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.019
Well, we've decided a couple of weeks ago, didn't we?

849
00:35:34.019 --> 00:35:36.239
Mid-season, Michael Westmore, as well.

850
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.300
Everything's very ugly and a bit desperate.

851
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.940
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they just look stupid.

852
00:35:42.059 --> 00:35:44.639
It would have been great if they'd just been like green people if

853
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.679
they'd just been an Orion, right?

854
00:35:46.739 --> 00:35:47.280
Do you know what I mean?

855
00:35:47.340 --> 00:35:48.539
Like if you want to make them aliens.

856
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:52.559
Like, the thing that I like is that they work with aliens every

857
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:52.800
day.

858
00:35:52.860 --> 00:35:53.699
Do you know what I mean?

859
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.639
You've got data calling them doctor and stuff like that.

860
00:35:56.699 --> 00:35:59.699
They're scientists and things like that, that's a thing and that's

861
00:35:59.699 --> 00:36:01.800
a thing that Star Trek should be doing because that's what it's

862
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:02.099
about.

863
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:03.179
They can't all be humans.

864
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:08.099
They're going to all be those colonists from, um, devil's due with

865
00:36:08.099 --> 00:36:09.900
the stupid jumpsuits on.

866
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.739
Yeah, they have to be aliens, but these are pretty...

867
00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:16.619
We do do call this for stupid jumpsuits quite a lot, though.

868
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:17.400
We do.

869
00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:18.300
That's right.

870
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:20.219
They had a standing order with the gap.

871
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:21.119
I'm telling you.

872
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.679
And this is where it's becoming real, isn't it?

873
00:36:25.739 --> 00:36:26.820
Like, this is what they are.

874
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:27.780
I just mean here.

875
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.360
He goes, well, that's not what I signed up for protecting you.

876
00:36:30.420 --> 00:36:31.380
I'm not going to be doing that.

877
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:32.940
Oh, come on.

878
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.659
So is so is Picard. just saying I'm dumping you at the nearest

879
00:36:36.659 --> 00:36:37.739
Starbase, you know.

880
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:38.880
It's John Delansey.

881
00:36:38.940 --> 00:36:39.300
Come on.

882
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.340
Yeah, if we...

883
00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:44.460
No, when Data's speaking up to defend him.

884
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:45.900
Are they really cool?

885
00:36:45.900 --> 00:36:48.659
The Bre-L with L, yeah.

886
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.940
Yeah, they have an apostrophe, don't know.

887
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.320
Oh, there you go, Lala Beaumar.

888
00:36:52.380 --> 00:36:53.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

889
00:36:53.880 --> 00:37:01.079
But at least, you know, it's separating 2 vowels, the Bre-L, they

890
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:04.199
abuse punctuation in the alien races with Star Trek.

891
00:37:04.260 --> 00:37:04.860
They really do.

892
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.619
So, but see, like Geordie's talking to these people, but he's not

893
00:37:07.619 --> 00:37:09.539
in the room with them, and it's one of the things that he does

894
00:37:09.539 --> 00:37:12.360
really well, I think, and he does it more than anyone else.

895
00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:16.019
Like everyone's up here sitting in comfy chairs and he's down

896
00:37:16.019 --> 00:37:19.199
there doing work while and explaining to them what he's doing.

897
00:37:19.260 --> 00:37:21.659
It doesn't look too uncomfortable with engineering though.

898
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.099
No, that's true.

899
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:23.820
It is...

900
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:26.039
Not like, except when things are original enterprise.

901
00:37:26.099 --> 00:37:28.320
We have to crawl all over it all the time.

902
00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:33.119
They're doing a lot of these sort of, they really have mastered

903
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:34.920
these tracking shots, aren't they, down the corridor?

904
00:37:34.980 --> 00:37:37.199
That's a simple thing to say.

905
00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:38.699
There's a lot of...

906
00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:39.780
There's a couple in there.

907
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:40.800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

908
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.219
By the time you get to the later seasons.

909
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.159
Those cameras are zooming around those corridors like you wouldn't

910
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:47.460
believe.

911
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:49.139
But look how much corridor there is.

912
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.179
Like they're not running out of corridor and they're not walking

913
00:37:51.179 --> 00:37:52.320
particularly slowly.

914
00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:55.079
Oh, they go and run in circles, though.

915
00:37:55.139 --> 00:37:57.599
I don't think in that shot.

916
00:37:57.659 --> 00:37:59.519
Oh, maybe I should have paid closer attention.

917
00:37:59.579 --> 00:38:00.659
There wasn't a cut, though.

918
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:02.940
There was no point where anyone walked in front of the camera, so

919
00:38:02.940 --> 00:38:03.840
there was no camera.

920
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:08.519
And here we don't open the door, so we don't move anymore.

921
00:38:08.579 --> 00:38:09.539
Do you know what I mean?

922
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.579
We don't go out onto the bridge or anything like that.

923
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:15.119
So this scene ends in the in the turbo lift.

924
00:38:15.179 --> 00:38:17.639
It's difficult to work in a group when you're omnipotent.

925
00:38:17.699 --> 00:38:18.719
He says.

926
00:38:18.780 --> 00:38:21.420
There they are on the ties have reached 10 metres.

927
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.940
That's pretty good for surfing, that is.

928
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.500
Yeah, again, because they can't show us that they can't afford to

929
00:38:28.500 --> 00:38:29.039
show us that.

930
00:38:29.099 --> 00:38:30.659
All they can do is tell us about it.

931
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.360
Oh, this woman at the back end.

932
00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:36.780
No, she's sort of holding her hands together, frustrating her.

933
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:38.400
Please help us, Captain Picard.

934
00:38:38.579 --> 00:38:40.679
And look at her now.

935
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:44.760
There is one extra person walking about behind them just to show

936
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:46.440
that it's a fully populated planet.

937
00:38:46.500 --> 00:38:47.280
It is.

938
00:38:47.340 --> 00:38:49.320
There's at least 4 people.

939
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.619
You don't blow up the moon when there's four.

940
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:53.579
Only when there's two.

941
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:55.619
Yes.

942
00:38:55.739 --> 00:38:58.380
See, with a name like Calamarine.

943
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:01.320
You think the makeup would be like calamari, right?

944
00:39:01.380 --> 00:39:04.079
No, no, no, the clown people.

945
00:39:04.139 --> 00:39:05.039
We never actually see them.

946
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:05.940
They're just a cloud.

947
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.800
These are the brown.

948
00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:09.840
I'm getting very confused.

949
00:39:09.900 --> 00:39:11.639
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

950
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:16.139
Okay, cues now joining the engineering team to now count.

951
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:18.599
Yeah, and so he comes in and just takes control because he's the

952
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.000
smartest person in the room, so obviously he's going to be in

953
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:21.719
charge.

954
00:39:21.780 --> 00:39:25.199
And we had that conversation about him not being able to do, like

955
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:26.760
he can help, but he can't get this.

956
00:39:26.820 --> 00:39:29.400
I don't give him tank smarter than it.

957
00:39:29.460 --> 00:39:31.019
Yeah, a 1000000000 times.

958
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:33.960
You step aside gracefully, you know.

959
00:39:37.019 --> 00:39:40.139
Oh, Q, get to the controls or get the hell out of here.

960
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.239
Am I watching Babble or 5 now?

961
00:39:42.300 --> 00:39:44.400
No, I just think it's really great.

962
00:39:44.460 --> 00:39:45.300
I don't know what that means.

963
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.219
I think it's great though.

964
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.079
But everyone is horrible to him except for data.

965
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:52.679
It's lovely.

966
00:39:52.739 --> 00:39:53.099
I know.

967
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:53.579
I love it.

968
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.039
And data's the one telling everyone.

969
00:39:56.099 --> 00:39:56.940
No, he is human.

970
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:58.260
No, he is trying.

971
00:39:58.320 --> 00:39:59.699
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

972
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.360
I feel as if they has genuine stakes in Q and this friendship.

973
00:40:04.019 --> 00:40:08.460
And Brent Spiner does it all without really displaying much of an

974
00:40:08.460 --> 00:40:08.880
emotion.

975
00:40:08.940 --> 00:40:10.559
It is such a skill.

976
00:40:10.619 --> 00:40:12.599
He's really great, isn't he?

977
00:40:12.659 --> 00:40:16.320
I can't understand why by the time he got to, you know, after the

978
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:16.679
movie.

979
00:40:16.739 --> 00:40:18.539
I'm never putting that fucking makeup on again.

980
00:40:18.659 --> 00:40:19.800
I had enough, you know.

981
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:20.699
He did, though.

982
00:40:20.820 --> 00:40:22.079
Never say never.

983
00:40:22.139 --> 00:40:22.500
You did.

984
00:40:22.500 --> 00:40:24.719
You did a payoff for enough money.

985
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:25.739
You did.

986
00:40:26.699 --> 00:40:29.340
Do you think that's a dynamic shot?

987
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.739
You know, the rock heading towards the planet and the little cloud

988
00:40:31.739 --> 00:40:32.039
there.

989
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.400
I mean, that's a better version of what they were actually able to

990
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:40.800
achieve in the 1980s, though, you know, because we're behind the

991
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:41.099
rock.

992
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:42.900
It doesn't seem to be moving.

993
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.420
That's the idea is it's supposed to be moving, right?

994
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:48.480
But it would have been a physical prop.

995
00:40:48.539 --> 00:40:51.599
Like the rock would have been an actual kind of painted

996
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.599
polystyrene thing that they were shooting.

997
00:40:54.659 --> 00:40:58.679
You know, the same way that the planet was a big round polystyrene

998
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:03.719
ball, that they projected the surface onto um back in the day.

999
00:41:03.780 --> 00:41:06.780
So there was no computer generated imagery at this point.

1000
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:08.099
It was all water.

1001
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.159
That would have been someone's job to make that polystyrene rock

1002
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.280
you know, just like, man, they must have been heady times for that

1003
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:15.059
special effects, man.

1004
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:19.559
Yeah, so this is these are the replacement effects for the high

1005
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:20.340
definition.

1006
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:21.900
I'm assuming that's what you're watching.

1007
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:22.679
That's what I'm watching.

1008
00:41:22.739 --> 00:41:25.079
HD version, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1009
00:41:25.139 --> 00:41:28.739
It's why whenever we do DSI and Voyager, I'm always just so

1010
00:41:28.739 --> 00:41:31.320
irritated by the fuzziness of the SD.

1011
00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:32.460
Yeah, yeah.

1012
00:41:33.179 --> 00:41:34.320
Never mind. one day.

1013
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:36.719
They are getting better at doing these things now where you can

1014
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.719
just put it all for a processor and make it shut up or anyways.

1015
00:41:39.780 --> 00:41:42.059
The AI is taking over.

1016
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.099
God, I sound like an old man. will come.

1017
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.000
I think it will.

1018
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.980
That's a very nice shot there at the Enterprise.

1019
00:41:46.980 --> 00:41:50.219
It's not the original shot at all, but that is a beautiful shot

1020
00:41:50.340 --> 00:41:51.119
surprise me.

1021
00:41:51.179 --> 00:41:52.380
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1022
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.500
I wonder who this lovely lady is at the con right here on the

1023
00:41:55.500 --> 00:41:55.739
road.

1024
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:56.699
She doesn't get to do anything.

1025
00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:58.500
What is it that Wesley stay on?

1026
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.659
She gets a lean forward then.

1027
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:01.980
She leaned forward briefly.

1028
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:03.780
She looks across at the other guy.

1029
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.360
A highlight of her career.

1030
00:42:06.420 --> 00:42:09.840
They're being scanned again by the Calamarina, aren't they?

1031
00:42:09.900 --> 00:42:11.400
Oh, so this is pretty good, I think.

1032
00:42:11.460 --> 00:42:18.719
So, so now we have the situation where, in fact, Q. presence is

1033
00:42:18.719 --> 00:42:21.840
interfering with a mission and is causing the mission to fail

1034
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:26.460
because the moment they lower their shields to do the thing, Q

1035
00:42:26.460 --> 00:42:27.300
gets attacked.

1036
00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:30.119
Do you think they winched him up in the air there?

1037
00:42:30.179 --> 00:42:30.599
Yes.

1038
00:42:30.659 --> 00:42:31.619
Like genuinely.

1039
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.300
I think they've hit, yep, they've winch.

1040
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:34.380
It looks great, isn't it?

1041
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:35.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1042
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:37.619
A good physical effect.

1043
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:41.460
Yeah, so then obviously Q then makes a decision, even though he's

1044
00:42:41.460 --> 00:42:42.900
not going to say I care about you people.

1045
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:44.099
So I'm going off.

1046
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:46.679
He's just like, it's easier with me gone, Jean-Luc.

1047
00:42:46.739 --> 00:42:48.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1048
00:42:48.059 --> 00:42:49.199
I like that a lot.

1049
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:53.639
And then it gets undermined in that scene with Q2, which is pretty

1050
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:54.239
great as well.

1051
00:42:54.300 --> 00:42:57.840
It's actually, whoa, you know, might not like this.

1052
00:42:57.900 --> 00:43:01.079
Like, Q not saying, I care about you people.

1053
00:43:01.139 --> 00:43:01.980
That's where I'm going.

1054
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.820
Picard, not saying I care about Q. That's why I'm bringing him

1055
00:43:05.820 --> 00:43:06.059
back.

1056
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:11.940
It is quite touching and less saccharine than everybody explicitly

1057
00:43:11.940 --> 00:43:15.059
stating their emotions in Kurt, which they love one another like

1058
00:43:15.059 --> 00:43:20.039
on Discovery. unendurable on Discovery at times.

1059
00:43:20.099 --> 00:43:22.320
Sometimes I could do it without subtext.

1060
00:43:22.380 --> 00:43:26.820
No one does it to no one does it to Giorgio, though. you know, like

1061
00:43:26.820 --> 00:43:31.139
Michael clearly loves Shawjo in a way, but they don't have gloopy

1062
00:43:31.139 --> 00:43:33.599
conversations about it. interestingly.

1063
00:43:33.659 --> 00:43:36.179
Lower decks does that extremely well.

1064
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:37.139
The subtext thing.

1065
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.320
Because very often the characters, I don't really want to say what

1066
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:40.860
they're feeling.

1067
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:43.920
And so they do something that shows what they're feeling, although

1068
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.239
they still have great moments.

1069
00:43:45.300 --> 00:43:49.260
Yeah, those 4 love one another. psychological insight and

1070
00:43:49.260 --> 00:43:51.420
emotional drama for a cartoon.

1071
00:43:52.019 --> 00:43:55.619
I'm also with this, which is actual live action TV.

1072
00:43:55.920 --> 00:44:00.239
Well, live action is probably overstating.

1073
00:44:01.380 --> 00:44:07.440
Slightly comatose action... in the sets talking to one another.

1074
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:11.579
Oh, God, when I was a kid, you know, I was desperate to know what

1075
00:44:11.579 --> 00:44:13.679
was in those kind of jars.

1076
00:44:13.739 --> 00:44:15.239
Yeah, they look great, don't they?

1077
00:44:15.300 --> 00:44:17.760
So I think this scene is really proper.

1078
00:44:17.820 --> 00:44:18.300
It's wonderful.

1079
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:21.659
In fact, I think the rest of the episode now is pretty much all

1080
00:44:21.659 --> 00:44:22.019
great.

1081
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:28.139
Oh, he's sitting down, thank God.

1082
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.539
Yeah, yeah, we don't have to look at his dick.

1083
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:39.119
It's, it's just the, it's Picard's refusal to, um, to really

1084
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:40.980
engage. you know what I mean?

1085
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:45.239
Or just, you know, he lets him speak and he listens to him, but he

1086
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.980
doesn't participate in the conversation that no more me, imagine

1087
00:44:49.980 --> 00:44:53.039
no more me, and no one would have missed me and he just doesn't

1088
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:53.460
say a thing.

1089
00:44:53.579 --> 00:44:56.460
And that's really portrayed well.

1090
00:44:56.519 --> 00:45:01.440
I can remember as a kid the 1st time I recognised what death was

1091
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.159
and it profoundly changed how I looked at things, you know?

1092
00:45:05.340 --> 00:45:08.280
And he's playing it. hes not overplaying this.

1093
00:45:08.340 --> 00:45:10.019
He's not doing this for comedy now.

1094
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.780
He's playing this as a dramatic role for this scene.

1095
00:45:13.380 --> 00:45:16.079
I feel ashamed, he says.

1096
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.380
I am not your father confessor.

1097
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.360
You will received no absolution from me.

1098
00:45:21.420 --> 00:45:23.579
He just refuses to join in.

1099
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:24.840
He refuses to help.

1100
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.860
He's still, you know, you are a problem and you are still the

1101
00:45:28.860 --> 00:45:29.219
problem.

1102
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.739
You are standing in the way of us doing our job and our job is

1103
00:45:31.739 --> 00:45:35.400
saving 1000000s of people and you're here talking about yourself

1104
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.880
you know, like this is still poor behaviour.

1105
00:45:38.940 --> 00:45:43.019
Although, he goes, I won't participate in this joke, queue.

1106
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.480
And he goes, if this is a joke, the joke's on me.

1107
00:45:45.539 --> 00:45:45.960
All right?

1108
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:49.559
I don't know.

1109
00:45:49.619 --> 00:45:53.400
I think maybe, maybe I would have liked to have seen a little more

1110
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:54.659
empathy from Picard.

1111
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:58.860
I think this works really well because I think too, the other

1112
00:45:58.860 --> 00:46:01.619
thing that happens is the relationship grows.

1113
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:03.000
Don't you think?

1114
00:46:03.059 --> 00:46:04.860
Like the relationship grows.

1115
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.199
By the time we get to tapestry, where he takes it back to his

1116
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:07.500
path.

1117
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.239
It's beautiful.

1118
00:46:09.300 --> 00:46:14.340
In fact, it's almost a bit of a shame in all good things that it

1119
00:46:14.340 --> 00:46:15.840
takes a bit of a backstep in that.

1120
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.039
Exactly that.

1121
00:46:17.099 --> 00:46:20.820
In fact, it's a little bit striking in context. isn't it all good

1122
00:46:20.820 --> 00:46:21.059
things?

1123
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.619
It's just, oh, cue's back like this again.

1124
00:46:22.860 --> 00:46:24.960
This is really good.

1125
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:27.239
I love this scene.

1126
00:46:27.300 --> 00:46:33.539
And I think it's genius not giving not giving any reply to data.

1127
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:34.980
I know.

1128
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:35.400
Yeah.

1129
00:46:35.460 --> 00:46:37.199
Yeah, I thought that was really clever.

1130
00:46:37.260 --> 00:46:39.900
Just believe me, you're missing nothing.

1131
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:42.659
But look at the smile.

1132
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:43.440
Look at the smile.

1133
00:46:43.500 --> 00:46:47.099
Oh, that line, but if it means anything to you, You're a bad human

1134
00:46:47.099 --> 00:46:50.460
than I. how he delivers it too, just with that subtle smile.

1135
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:51.059
It's wonderful.

1136
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.980
I don't think TNG is thoughtful as this usually.

1137
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:58.019
Not often anyway.

1138
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:02.460
Yeah, they were really, Gene Roddenbury really made a good call

1139
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:02.880
strip it back.

1140
00:47:02.940 --> 00:47:06.900
Don't make it about a war, make it about the people involved.

1141
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:08.280
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

1142
00:47:08.340 --> 00:47:12.059
I've given you so many of these ghastly godlike beings over the

1143
00:47:12.059 --> 00:47:12.300
years.

1144
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.820
Now let's see what they're really about.

1145
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:19.500
Oh, wonderful. stolen the shuttle.

1146
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.500
Shut off and identify yourself.

1147
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:23.460
He's so good.

1148
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:23.820
Really?

1149
00:47:24.659 --> 00:47:29.159
There we go. just can't get used to following orders.

1150
00:47:29.219 --> 00:47:30.360
That's the reason he's going.

1151
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:34.500
That's crazy out this way.

1152
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:36.659
Yeah, you're right.

1153
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.480
He totally rejects the self-sacrifice, doesn't he?

1154
00:47:39.539 --> 00:47:40.199
Yeah, yeah.

1155
00:47:40.260 --> 00:47:42.059
I mean, it's clearly what he's doing in a way.

1156
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.780
It's a bit on the nose, he goes, please don't fall back on, you

1157
00:47:45.780 --> 00:47:46.860
know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1158
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:48.599
Obvious cliches.

1159
00:47:48.659 --> 00:47:52.079
My life as a human being has been a dismal failure.

1160
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:57.239
Does he smile and undermine it?

1161
00:47:57.300 --> 00:47:59.519
There is something like I think...

1162
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:00.480
Yes, here you go.

1163
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.179
This is so unusual now.

1164
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.159
This scene in the show.

1165
00:48:05.219 --> 00:48:07.199
As a human, I would have died of boredom.

1166
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:09.300
That's a gray line.

1167
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:11.760
But just to neither any of the regulars in this scene.

1168
00:48:11.820 --> 00:48:13.619
It's so weird, right?

1169
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:15.539
It's like, it means cues important.

1170
00:48:15.539 --> 00:48:16.260
That shot is great too.

1171
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:18.480
He's that almost one of our ensemble now.

1172
00:48:18.539 --> 00:48:19.679
Yeah, yeah.

1173
00:48:19.739 --> 00:48:22.800
But this shot, where I think the thing where the thing's coming

1174
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:23.880
after him is pretty good.

1175
00:48:23.940 --> 00:48:26.940
The one where it comes down over the camera.

1176
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:27.780
Yes, this.

1177
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:30.900
Beam it back.

1178
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.019
And then he loves a good shuttle.

1179
00:48:34.019 --> 00:48:37.019
And Riker's looking at him judgementally.

1180
00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:42.480
Pretty good.

1181
00:48:42.539 --> 00:48:46.380
And then weirdly, another striking thing about the scene in this

1182
00:48:46.380 --> 00:48:46.800
shot.

1183
00:48:46.860 --> 00:48:48.659
It feels like it's been ripped out of a sitcom.

1184
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.000
Because it is 2 comedy actors.

1185
00:48:51.059 --> 00:48:53.579
Yeah, saying comedy lines.

1186
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:57.659
So Corbin Burnson is huge at the moment.

1187
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:01.500
He is in LA law.

1188
00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:05.519
And I never watched LA law, but it's very 80s, and it obviously

1189
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.320
had Diana Muldar in it.

1190
00:49:07.380 --> 00:49:10.800
Remember, she was the one who gets shoved down the lift shaft.

1191
00:49:10.860 --> 00:49:14.880
Well, she just opens the door, walks into a lift, but it isn't

1192
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.619
there and she just falls to death.

1193
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:20.039
And the only scene that I ever watched of LA law.

1194
00:49:20.099 --> 00:49:20.880
That's what happened.

1195
00:49:20.940 --> 00:49:22.739
It's just like, shit, that's a thing.

1196
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:28.199
So he's playing it as if he's in a completely different show.

1197
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:29.699
And I think that works really well.

1198
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:33.300
I think we see another performance in the next generation like

1199
00:49:33.300 --> 00:49:34.019
this ever.

1200
00:49:34.139 --> 00:49:36.360
It really stood out as something striking.

1201
00:49:36.420 --> 00:49:40.139
It's a little bit like Matt Frewer does it a little bit. you know

1202
00:49:40.139 --> 00:49:40.500
what I mean?

1203
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.099
Like it is a little bit of a sort of, but there's a very relaxed

1204
00:49:44.099 --> 00:49:45.599
comedy thing to it.

1205
00:49:45.659 --> 00:49:50.219
But what I really like is when he realises he's done a selfless

1206
00:49:50.219 --> 00:49:54.360
act, you know, and he goes, ah, tiny bit, tiny bit selfless, and

1207
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:57.900
he's kind of like... body language. and like we were on a crew of

1208
00:49:57.900 --> 00:49:59.219
people that barely move.

1209
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:03.239
And his arms are wave and he's looking at his hands like, oh, I've

1210
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:03.480
got hands.

1211
00:50:03.539 --> 00:50:04.019
What's going on?

1212
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:05.940
He's overdoing that a little bit, I think.

1213
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.000
Yeah, and I agree, but it's refreshing.

1214
00:50:09.059 --> 00:50:10.619
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1215
00:50:10.619 --> 00:50:14.039
Well, it is like the whole point.

1216
00:50:14.099 --> 00:50:18.000
I think, you know, and he's understood it, is that these 2 are

1217
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:18.840
relaxed.

1218
00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:24.539
In fact, in this one, it's our cue who is got the stick up his

1219
00:50:24.539 --> 00:50:24.900
bum.

1220
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:27.659
Isn't he compared to the compared to the other queue?

1221
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.019
The other cue's much more relaxed, whereas our cue's been hanging

1222
00:50:31.019 --> 00:50:34.199
out with humans a bit and is, you know, being a little bit more

1223
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:34.860
stiff.

1224
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:40.500
Um, the way he delivers the line as well of, um, you got your

1225
00:50:40.500 --> 00:50:41.219
powers back.

1226
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.260
It's like, it's so casual.

1227
00:50:43.619 --> 00:50:47.699
But the other thing too, which I think is super important is that

1228
00:50:47.699 --> 00:50:51.780
he tells Q that they tried to rescue him.

1229
00:50:52.500 --> 00:50:53.880
Yeah.

1230
00:50:53.940 --> 00:50:56.760
Yeah, you know, that he said, no, no, I'm going off.

1231
00:50:56.820 --> 00:51:00.780
I'm going to sacrifice myself, and I'll take the calamarine away

1232
00:51:00.780 --> 00:51:03.539
so that you can save this planet.

1233
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:07.559
Um, but he, he knows that they, at least it was a teeny bit

1234
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:08.699
selfless, wasn't it?

1235
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:10.320
That's my problem.

1236
00:51:10.380 --> 00:51:13.260
I can't go back to the computer and tell them that.

1237
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.440
There's got to be inquests and exclamations.

1238
00:51:16.500 --> 00:51:17.400
Oh, man.

1239
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:18.119
And we see that.

1240
00:51:18.179 --> 00:51:19.619
We see that in Voyager, right?

1241
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:20.400
And they're very boring.

1242
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:25.800
But this is kind of cute as well because he thinks he's an art of

1243
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:30.780
failure as a human being, and he refuses to frame his self

1244
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:31.559
sacrificing those terms.

1245
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:33.179
Like, do you know what I mean?

1246
00:51:33.300 --> 00:51:35.820
He just says I would have died of border, my machine human, all of

1247
00:51:35.820 --> 00:51:36.480
that sort of thing.

1248
00:51:36.539 --> 00:51:38.820
But then he kind of goes, actually, it was selfless.

1249
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:39.960
I was pretty good, wasn't I?

1250
00:51:40.019 --> 00:51:40.800
That's what David did.

1251
00:51:40.860 --> 00:51:42.179
You know, I said, what's me of?

1252
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:44.579
This reminds me of.

1253
00:51:44.579 --> 00:51:48.480
I'm going to make a talk to reference. of a way old doctor

1254
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:49.079
reference.

1255
00:51:49.139 --> 00:51:52.440
Tara of the autons. when that fella turns up and just delivers a

1256
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:54.900
load of exposition and tells the doctor and then pops off again

1257
00:51:55.380 --> 00:51:57.360
exactly the same thing.

1258
00:51:57.420 --> 00:52:03.239
Oh, look at his head in the air. sticking through the bulkhead.

1259
00:52:04.260 --> 00:52:07.559
Try and stay out of trouble, he says, as is off.

1260
00:52:08.579 --> 00:52:12.840
Now we're back in a proper queue episode, you know, and Q takes

1261
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:16.380
over the show because he's omnipotent, which is pretty great, so

1262
00:52:16.380 --> 00:52:17.880
they don't know what's hit them.

1263
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:23.280
Like, it's very clever that they take away all of this, you know

1264
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:26.460
the fact that he can come on with a Mexican band and they make it

1265
00:52:26.460 --> 00:52:28.800
and all these things, they take away all of the fun stuff around

1266
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.619
you and he's still all the funnest things.

1267
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:31.980
Yeah.

1268
00:52:31.980 --> 00:52:32.820
Yeah.

1269
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.719
I do think I do think a lot of it is John Delancey, though.

1270
00:52:36.780 --> 00:52:40.440
Oh, no, absolutely it is, which is why you're getting back in

1271
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:41.460
Picard, you know.

1272
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:43.260
It's a personality.

1273
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:44.820
You just can't contain, is it?

1274
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.139
They try.

1275
00:52:47.940 --> 00:52:50.340
I'm immortal again.

1276
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.679
Omnipotent again.

1277
00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:58.679
The cigar is pretty funny.

1278
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:02.219
I don't need your fantasy women.

1279
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.280
Excuse me, you don't usually complain, Riko.

1280
00:53:05.340 --> 00:53:06.000
What are you talking about?

1281
00:53:06.059 --> 00:53:08.099
She's brought her tits with her, this one on the left.

1282
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.139
That's a cheek.

1283
00:53:10.139 --> 00:53:16.199
I mean, look, this is what I mean about. of them have any body

1284
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:16.739
language.

1285
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:17.820
They're so still.

1286
00:53:20.940 --> 00:53:24.239
Oh, it's lovely when Picard's really pissed off and everyone's

1287
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:24.719
having fun.

1288
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:27.300
I feel like celebrating.

1289
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:28.139
I doubt.

1290
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:30.780
Yeah, but they're still in the middle of the thing.

1291
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:31.920
Do you know what I mean?

1292
00:53:31.980 --> 00:53:34.619
They're still in the middle of this sort of boring episode, this

1293
00:53:34.619 --> 00:53:36.420
boring. wave that away already.

1294
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.699
It's already done They don't know that.

1295
00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:40.920
And I think that's great as well.

1296
00:53:40.980 --> 00:53:44.699
Like he just does that on the way out and he doesn't comment on

1297
00:53:44.699 --> 00:53:44.880
it.

1298
00:53:44.940 --> 00:53:46.500
He doesn't draw their attention to it.

1299
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:48.239
He doesn't ask to be thanked.

1300
00:53:48.300 --> 00:53:50.159
He just does it on the way out.

1301
00:53:50.219 --> 00:53:54.539
And I actually think that final line is a bit of a shame that they

1302
00:53:54.539 --> 00:53:56.219
have to tell us, you know.

1303
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.219
That's the difference between this and Q Hu though.

1304
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:02.159
And Maurice Hurley's approach and this approach, and this approach

1305
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:06.480
we want to leave you as our friend and he does something nice for

1306
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:06.719
them.

1307
00:54:06.780 --> 00:54:10.440
And Q who, he takes him to a region of space where the Borg, slice

1308
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.559
open a section and murder people.

1309
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:17.340
And at the end, he goes, well, Yeah, that's the universe.

1310
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:18.960
They're 2 very different takes.

1311
00:54:19.019 --> 00:54:20.760
I'm not sure which one I prefer actually.

1312
00:54:20.820 --> 00:54:22.079
I like this, though.

1313
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:24.599
Oh, it's so overdone though.

1314
00:54:24.659 --> 00:54:28.079
They just can't do comedy on the bridge, can they?

1315
00:54:28.139 --> 00:54:30.119
Well, it's it's Brent.

1316
00:54:30.179 --> 00:54:34.380
I mean, when Brent, like Brent pulls this shit in generations, when

1317
00:54:34.380 --> 00:54:37.440
he gets the emotion...

1318
00:54:37.500 --> 00:54:40.679
Oh, that where he turns around and you think he's finished, he

1319
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:45.480
turns around, he looks at Picard and then just roars with laughter

1320
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:46.500
I think he's really great.

1321
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.239
Like that's that's pretty good.

1322
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:49.500
And then...

1323
00:54:49.500 --> 00:54:52.800
I can't decide whether this is a very or worse comedy scene than

1324
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:55.019
the one we saw at the end of disaster with all the kids on the

1325
00:54:55.019 --> 00:54:55.320
bridge.

1326
00:54:55.380 --> 00:54:57.179
They're like pretty terrible.

1327
00:54:57.239 --> 00:54:58.860
I think it's a great gift.

1328
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:01.800
Remember when he tries to give them more gifts in hide and cue?

1329
00:55:01.860 --> 00:55:03.300
Oh, terrible.

1330
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:04.860
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1331
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:05.519
Yeah.

1332
00:55:05.579 --> 00:55:07.500
But that gift is perfect.

1333
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:09.480
And it's seeded in early.

1334
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:10.559
Do you know what I mean?

1335
00:55:10.619 --> 00:55:11.880
I never know what it's like to laugh.

1336
00:55:11.940 --> 00:55:12.719
Oh, Jesus Christ.

1337
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.239
The most faithless runner.

1338
00:55:15.300 --> 00:55:16.260
Captain Picard.

1339
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:18.840
I don't know how you did it, even though they still can't raise a

1340
00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.059
smile because of their sucker mouth teeth, you know?

1341
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:22.440
No, yeah, yeah.

1342
00:55:22.500 --> 00:55:24.059
Oh no, she's trying to smile.

1343
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.880
The woman's trying to smile. tragic.

1344
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:31.380
Poor Deanna Troy has done fuck all in this episode, is she?

1345
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:32.519
She got that one line.

1346
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:34.679
This is the episode where Q is human.

1347
00:55:34.860 --> 00:55:37.320
They've given it all to data.

1348
00:55:38.099 --> 00:55:42.420
Well, the women have had one tiny scene each, haven't they

1349
00:55:42.420 --> 00:55:42.780
essentially?

1350
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.880
More than they often get, you know?

1351
00:55:44.940 --> 00:55:46.019
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1352
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:47.099
That is true.

1353
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.639
I'm not saying that's a good thing, by the way.

1354
00:55:50.699 --> 00:55:52.320
No, no, it's a terrible thing.

1355
00:55:52.619 --> 00:55:54.059
Yep.

1356
00:55:54.059 --> 00:55:55.679
Oh, it was fun.

1357
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.780
Let's swap off now to the next place.

1358
00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:59.579
Oh, no, he's got to have the cigar yet, hasn't he?

1359
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:00.300
Yeah, yeah.

1360
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.659
And I think this is a bit shit because perhaps there's a residue

1361
00:56:03.659 --> 00:56:04.980
of humanity in cue after all.

1362
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.500
Like, do we need that?

1363
00:56:07.500 --> 00:56:08.880
Do we have to have that?

1364
00:56:08.940 --> 00:56:12.119
It's just like Spock sneaking out to us in that animated series

1365
00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:12.900
episode, isn't it?

1366
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:13.380
You know?

1367
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.780
Lucifer wasn't evil after all.

1368
00:56:16.019 --> 00:56:21.119
That's right You could have just had the joke with the cigar.

1369
00:56:21.179 --> 00:56:23.400
Even though that isn't that funny.

1370
00:56:23.460 --> 00:56:28.980
But that's a bad joke as well. like it is supposed to slightly

1371
00:56:28.980 --> 00:56:32.039
undermine the character developer we've had with Q or whatever.

1372
00:56:32.099 --> 00:56:32.940
Do you know what I mean?

1373
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:36.480
Like the humanising of Q, but it is a little bit crap, I think.

1374
00:56:36.539 --> 00:56:39.000
I would, there's too many jokes in that last scene.

1375
00:56:39.059 --> 00:56:40.139
I would have restructured it.

1376
00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:42.960
I would have had the sequence where the woman comes up on the

1377
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:44.579
screen and goes, Captain Picard.

1378
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:46.500
A miracle's happened.

1379
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.739
Get that over and done with, then do data laughing and end on

1380
00:56:49.739 --> 00:56:50.159
that.

1381
00:56:50.219 --> 00:56:51.179
Yeah.

1382
00:56:51.300 --> 00:56:53.460
Because that's the best part of that scene. you know, because

1383
00:56:53.460 --> 00:56:54.539
that's the most touching part.

1384
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:56.519
Apparently it's the most funniest part.

1385
00:56:56.579 --> 00:56:58.380
So end on a high.

1386
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:02.820
I do think, though, that, you know, we start with him not giving a

1387
00:57:02.820 --> 00:57:06.059
shit about that, you know, like he's more concerned about sleeping

1388
00:57:06.059 --> 00:57:10.739
and and being hungry and having back pain and he's constantly

1389
00:57:10.739 --> 00:57:14.159
derailing conversations about the main situation.

1390
00:57:14.219 --> 00:57:16.980
You know, the Bra L 4 situation.

1391
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:20.880
And so to have him casually fix it without saying anything.

1392
00:57:20.940 --> 00:57:22.980
I think he's really great.

1393
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:27.300
And I think it's a shame that they have to hang a lantern on it

1394
00:57:27.300 --> 00:57:27.780
really.

1395
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.260
The reason the whole episode pays off, isn't it, is that in the

1396
00:57:31.260 --> 00:57:33.539
1st half of the episode, everyone's being a bit mean to each

1397
00:57:33.539 --> 00:57:33.719
other.

1398
00:57:33.780 --> 00:57:37.019
In the 2nd half of the episode, we realise everybody cares about

1399
00:57:37.019 --> 00:57:37.440
each other.

1400
00:57:37.500 --> 00:57:39.420
That's a lovely payoff.

1401
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:40.980
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

1402
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:41.579
I agree.

1403
00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:45.300
Yeah, no, I think that's a that is a pretty excellent episode.

1404
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:48.179
And even in the context of a really strong season.

1405
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:50.280
That's pretty great, isn't it?

1406
00:57:50.340 --> 00:57:51.659
It is familiar.

1407
00:57:51.780 --> 00:57:54.719
Yeah, I'll just repeat why I said it at the start.

1408
00:57:54.780 --> 00:57:57.900
Yeah, I think this is top 3 of the next genes we've done so far.

1409
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:02.340
And I can only guarantee the next one won't be as good.

1410
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:15.420
All right, it's the end of the episode, and it is time for us to

1411
00:58:15.420 --> 00:58:18.300
work out where we're going next.

1412
00:58:18.659 --> 00:58:23.760
This was your choice, Joe. and an excellent choice.

1413
00:58:23.820 --> 00:58:28.500
So it's my turn to come and completely stuff it up with something

1414
00:58:28.500 --> 00:58:30.119
ridiculous and terrible.

1415
00:58:30.179 --> 00:58:34.739
And so where else will we go, but Star Trek Enterprise.

1416
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:35.699
I knew it.

1417
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:37.260
I knew you were going to say.

1418
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.019
You're the only person that takes us to Enterprise.

1419
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:41.340
Okay.

1420
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.440
Yeah, no, very intrigued.

1421
00:58:43.500 --> 00:58:45.420
Kind of intrigued.

1422
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:48.300
And we are still a little bit behind on our coverage of

1423
00:58:48.300 --> 00:58:49.199
enterprise.

1424
00:58:49.260 --> 00:58:55.079
So we have to eat our vegetables eventually and that Star Trek

1425
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:55.860
Enterprise.

1426
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:58.440
So I have picked it on the randomiser.

1427
00:58:58.500 --> 00:59:01.739
And can I just remind people, if you go to untitled Star Trek

1428
00:59:01.739 --> 00:59:07.800
project.com slash randomiser, you can, like us, pick a random Star

1429
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:09.780
Trek episode from any series.

1430
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:12.719
So if you're kind of wondering what you want to watch and

1431
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:14.099
Agonising choice.

1432
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:18.539
The agonising choice of 1000s of different episodes.

1433
00:59:18.659 --> 00:59:23.579
I actually went up into my cupboard yesterday and found my old box

1434
00:59:23.579 --> 00:59:27.780
where I'd written down to that point, every episode of Star Trek

1435
00:59:27.780 --> 00:59:31.739
on bits of paper, and told them up and put them in a box.

1436
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:33.900
I just had to wait to meet you, really.

1437
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:35.820
I do a randomiser.

1438
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:41.400
A small shout out to Dave Rennie, who, in fact, regularly uses the

1439
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:44.820
randomiser and often tweets about the episodes that he got as

1440
00:59:44.820 --> 00:59:45.000
well.

1441
00:59:45.059 --> 00:59:46.079
Yeah, yeah.

1442
00:59:46.139 --> 00:59:51.119
So there's 940 episodes at the moment as we record. that you can

1443
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:55.260
choose from, but I'm going to choose from the 97 episodes of

1444
00:59:55.260 --> 00:59:59.400
Enterprise that exist, and here am I pressing the most 100.

1445
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:01.440
Stalling, isn't it?

1446
01:00:01.500 --> 01:00:02.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1447
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:07.199
Your random Star Trek Enterprise episode is minefield.

1448
01:00:07.260 --> 01:00:09.300
Season 2, episode 3.

1449
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:14.880
Well, it looks like it's the great bomb dissection episode from

1450
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:15.719
Enterprise.

1451
01:00:15.780 --> 01:00:19.920
Jammer gives it 3 stars, which is not promising because we don't

1452
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:20.639
use slightly.

1453
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:22.260
It's a bit of a bam, he reckons.

1454
01:00:23.820 --> 01:00:27.599
And 2 stars better than the magics of Makers 2.

1455
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:29.219
Yeah, all right.

1456
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:30.119
I'm gonna pick another one.

1457
01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:33.420
Silent enemy, season one, episode 12.

1458
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:38.099
Oh, do you know, series one is such a blank spot to me because I

1459
01:00:38.099 --> 01:00:38.820
never get through it.

1460
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:40.619
Let's have a quick look.

1461
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:46.199
He says, silent enemy, might as well be called the McGuffin enemy

1462
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.980
because that's what the enemy here is, big McGuffin.

1463
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:51.840
Well, that's most Star Trek episodes, isn't it?

1464
01:00:51.900 --> 01:00:54.059
Average, he says, 2.5 stars.

1465
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.219
It doesn't as good as Ben.

1466
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:57.780
We do have to, yeah.

1467
01:00:57.840 --> 01:00:59.880
We have to do average ones.

1468
01:00:59.940 --> 01:01:02.159
We do have to do average ones, but you know what?

1469
01:01:02.219 --> 01:01:03.780
After doing such a great TNG.

1470
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:05.880
Let's try and find something.

1471
01:01:05.940 --> 01:01:06.360
All right.

1472
01:01:06.420 --> 01:01:11.760
I think you're right Ah, we've rolled this one before. and I am

1473
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:12.480
intrigued.

1474
01:01:12.539 --> 01:01:15.300
This is season two, episode two, carbon Creek.

1475
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:17.039
Why did we do that one?

1476
01:01:17.099 --> 01:01:17.880
I can't even remember.

1477
01:01:17.940 --> 01:01:23.159
I think we thought it was a little bit low-key. can't remember, but

1478
01:01:23.159 --> 01:01:24.300
we did decide against it.

1479
01:01:24.420 --> 01:01:29.760
Jama gives this one star less than Bem, one. 5 stars out four.

1480
01:01:29.820 --> 01:01:33.119
It was originally 2 stars, but changed his mind.

1481
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:37.380
I didn't mind this, but I still think you should roll again.

1482
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:37.920
Okay.

1483
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:47.519
Season one, episode 15 Shadows of Pajam, and we've mentioned

1484
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:48.239
Pajam.

1485
01:01:48.300 --> 01:01:49.559
I can't even remember what it is.

1486
01:01:49.619 --> 01:01:50.159
Is it a?

1487
01:01:50.219 --> 01:01:52.559
It was in, it was in the Vulcan.

1488
01:01:52.619 --> 01:01:55.800
Yeah, the in series 4, wasn't it?

1489
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.300
Jama says it's mediocrity at its finest.

1490
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.579
Oh, dear.

1491
01:02:02.579 --> 01:02:03.780
That's what we're tuning in for.

1492
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:05.940
Perfectly.

1493
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:06.360
Yes.

1494
01:02:06.539 --> 01:02:08.460
Maybe one more time.

1495
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:09.480
Try another one.

1496
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:11.400
Let's make it this one, though. whatever you hit.

1497
01:02:12.539 --> 01:02:17.579
Season four, episode 18, in a mirror darkly.

1498
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:18.539
Yes.

1499
01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:19.860
Oh, yes, let's do it.

1500
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:21.659
Is that a one part episode?

1501
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:23.519
It's a two-part episode.

1502
01:02:23.579 --> 01:02:25.260
It's got the corn in it.

1503
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:29.039
They make Hoshi look like a sexy bitch and she's evil.

1504
01:02:29.099 --> 01:02:30.659
Please let's do it.

1505
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:33.659
Both of those episodes, you know, if it's a two-parter.

1506
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:36.360
So what's the other episode called?

1507
01:02:36.420 --> 01:02:37.079
Do you know?

1508
01:02:37.139 --> 01:02:39.659
It's called Inner Mirror Darkly part two.

1509
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:40.980
Oh, okay.

1510
01:02:40.980 --> 01:02:43.019
That's imaginative.

1511
01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:45.539
Listen to this, though.

1512
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:47.219
Listen to this.

1513
01:02:47.219 --> 01:02:47.940
I know how it starts.

1514
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:49.980
It has its own opening titles.

1515
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:51.179
It does.

1516
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:53.039
And that's one of many things that gets right.

1517
01:02:53.099 --> 01:02:54.780
In the mirror universe.

1518
01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:58.139
Archer stages a power play to take over the enterprise, initially

1519
01:02:58.139 --> 01:03:01.559
under the command of Captain Forrest, and diverts it deep into

1520
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:02.639
Folian space.

1521
01:03:02.699 --> 01:03:05.880
We see the folian web again as well. brilliant.

1522
01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:08.579
Do you remember them really leaning into TOS at this point?

1523
01:03:08.579 --> 01:03:12.900
And this is the one time, I swear, it's the one time where

1524
01:03:12.900 --> 01:03:17.099
Enterprise chills the fuck out for a couple of episodes and has

1525
01:03:17.099 --> 01:03:17.820
fun.

1526
01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:19.980
Oh, please let's do that. let's do that.

1527
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:21.059
That's a brilliant idea.

1528
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:21.780
That's awesome.

1529
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:22.380
Brilliant.

1530
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.800
You've been listening to untitled Star Trek Project with Joe Ford

1531
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:35.940
and Nathan Bottomley.

1532
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:39.480
We're online at untitled Star Trek Project.com, where you can find

1533
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:42.059
subscription links and links to our social media accounts.

1534
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:45.780
Our podcast artwork is by Kayla Ciceran, and the theme was

1535
01:03:45.780 --> 01:03:47.460
composed by Cameron Lam.

1536
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:51.840
This episode was recorded on the 30th of July, 2024, and released

1537
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:52.980
on the 9th of August.

1538
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:57.000
We'll see you next time for Star Trek Enterprise, Inner Mirror

1539
01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.400
Darkly, and Inner Mirror Darkly, Part 2.

1540
01:04:14.579 --> 01:04:17.400
I love doing that, you know, it's like, I'm, like, collecting my

1541
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:18.059
thoughts, you know.

1542
01:04:18.059 --> 01:04:21.719
You just get all these random messages from me about the episode.

1543
01:04:21.780 --> 01:04:23.340
Yeah, no, that was good.

1544
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:23.760
That was good.

1545
01:04:23.820 --> 01:04:25.860
Did you did you press the other record as well?

1546
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:26.760
I did.

1547
01:04:26.820 --> 01:04:27.300
I did.

1548
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:28.619
Excellent.

1549
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:34.619
I'm just gonna take all of the big list of episodes.

1550
01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:37.800
Copy.

1551
01:04:38.340 --> 01:04:40.980
And then just paste it in here.

1552
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:46.019
Season two.

1553
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:48.599
Did you watch the...

1554
01:04:50.039 --> 01:04:56.219
Did you watch the, um, um, recording?

1555
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:56.579
Yeah.

1556
01:04:56.639 --> 01:05:00.059
Did you watch that clip that I sent you from Strange New World?

1557
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.099
I had already seen it.

1558
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:03.719
Okay, okay.

1559
01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:05.280
I wanted because you were quite quick.

1560
01:05:05.340 --> 01:05:09.599
It is, I think, absolutely brilliant, like so great.

1561
01:05:09.659 --> 01:05:13.139
And like, um, what's her face?

1562
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:14.940
I can't even remember that character's name.

1563
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:16.619
Is it Pella?

1564
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:17.400
What's she called?

1565
01:05:17.460 --> 01:05:20.159
The engineering woman?

1566
01:05:20.219 --> 01:05:23.159
The lanthanite, the woman from Kimmy Schmidt?

1567
01:05:23.579 --> 01:05:24.960
Okay.

1568
01:05:25.019 --> 01:05:28.139
You know, she says, oh, it doesn't work on me that that looked

1569
01:05:28.139 --> 01:05:29.159
like so much fun.

1570
01:05:29.219 --> 01:05:34.679
And then she goes, um, it's like when I took LSD in the 1960s and

1571
01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:39.900
the 1990s and then last July, like it didn't work on me.

1572
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:43.320
Like, I just think she's the best thing ever, and I'm hugely

1573
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.840
excited that she's in it because Scotty's in that clip, and I

1574
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:49.260
thought that, you know, Scotty would replace her and we wouldn't

1575
01:05:49.260 --> 01:05:51.780
get Scott, we wouldn't get her in series 3, but I'm really glad

1576
01:05:51.780 --> 01:05:54.539
she's in series 3 because I think she's fucking magnificent. to

1577
01:05:54.539 --> 01:05:55.320
watch series two.

1578
01:05:55.380 --> 01:05:57.539
Yeah, which is really good in series too.

1579
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:01.079
But I mean, clearly the episode that they're doing is the sort of

1580
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:07.619
annual sex comedy or annual comedy about, you know, Spock as a

1581
01:06:07.619 --> 01:06:08.219
Vulcan.

1582
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:11.639
Suddenly everybody is a Vulcan.

1583
01:06:11.699 --> 01:06:14.280
Suddenly, everybody's Vulcan, and they're better at being a Vulcan

1584
01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:14.880
than him.

1585
01:06:14.940 --> 01:06:15.659
Like, that's the point.

1586
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:20.340
Like, and even that 4.5 Vulcans to beam down, you know, and they

1587
01:06:20.340 --> 01:06:25.320
just solve the problem in in like 30 seconds and then being back

1588
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:28.079
up and presumably the rest of the episode is just them being

1589
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:31.559
Vulcans and being better at it than Spark.

1590
01:06:31.619 --> 01:06:35.880
But all of these people losing their shit online about it being

1591
01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:37.920
racist to Vulcans.

1592
01:06:37.980 --> 01:06:39.480
Have you seen that?

1593
01:06:40.500 --> 01:06:43.500
They do know it's not a real species, right?

1594
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:44.579
crazy.

1595
01:06:44.579 --> 01:06:45.780
It's so crazy.

1596
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:50.699
They're kind of going, but you couldn't, what about culture?

1597
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:54.480
You know, it's not just DNA, it's culture.

1598
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.260
You don't get that from a hyper, hyper spray.

1599
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.420
I mean, you can't get DNA.

1600
01:07:00.420 --> 01:07:01.800
Have you seen Genesis?

1601
01:07:01.860 --> 01:07:03.000
Yeah, that's right.

1602
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:05.280
You could do a lot with a hyper spray.

1603
01:07:05.340 --> 01:07:06.840
Oh my god.

1604
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:12.179
And when Riker and Troy became the Mintarkins, who watches the

1605
01:07:12.179 --> 01:07:12.539
watches?

1606
01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:17.099
Yeah, but they didn't become, you know, Mint Harkins, they just

1607
01:07:17.099 --> 01:07:18.000
put their ears on them.

1608
01:07:18.059 --> 01:07:18.960
Do you know what I mean?

1609
01:07:19.019 --> 01:07:21.539
But this is them becoming Valcans and you've got, you know, Pike

1610
01:07:21.539 --> 01:07:25.440
with massively tall hair and and like, you know, brave hair.

1611
01:07:25.500 --> 01:07:28.440
These are people that only watch Star Trek and it is their entire

1612
01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:31.739
life and their houses have been turned into Starships and they

1613
01:07:31.739 --> 01:07:33.480
wear the uniforms.

1614
01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:36.960
It's a sense of perspective whatsoever.

1615
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:40.079
But it's also a way of watching Star Trek too.

1616
01:07:40.139 --> 01:07:40.980
Do you know what I mean?

1617
01:07:41.039 --> 01:07:43.800
where the races are kind of real.

1618
01:07:43.860 --> 01:07:48.599
And, and so, so, this is, you had this conversation with me.

1619
01:07:48.659 --> 01:07:52.320
You know, and you go, no, no, this pretend person that they're

1620
01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:55.320
saying is real is no less real than the real the pretend people

1621
01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:56.400
you're watching all the time.

1622
01:07:56.460 --> 01:07:57.539
But these people don't think that.

1623
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:01.559
No, they do think they are watching future history take place.

1624
01:08:01.619 --> 01:08:02.579
That's right.

1625
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:06.960
So it's like a Vulcan isn't really an alien race in an ancient

1626
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:07.380
culture.

1627
01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:11.099
It's a type of character that we get on Star Trek.

1628
01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:15.539
And so we get, you know, like them being that type of character.

1629
01:08:15.659 --> 01:08:17.880
The fact that you would even need to spell that out is

1630
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:18.539
astonishing.

1631
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:22.439
Like, what did they think of Wedge Doodge?

1632
01:08:22.500 --> 01:08:25.020
Do you remember that episode of Lower Decks?

1633
01:08:25.020 --> 01:08:29.340
It's 3 ships and it's like the...

1634
01:08:29.340 --> 01:08:33.720
The Falcon ship and the, and the, and the Klingon ship and I guess

1635
01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:35.760
the, you know, the Cerritos.

1636
01:08:35.819 --> 01:08:39.539
And but that makes fun of the Falcans as well in the same way.

1637
01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:43.079
Just think there's no, there's no point trying to rationalise with

1638
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:48.239
these people. because you never will make them. anything that is

1639
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:49.140
not their point of view.

1640
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:53.760
But it's kind of like a bad way of watching television, like an in

1641
01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:54.420
a bit.

1642
01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:55.979
But that's a lot of television family.

1643
01:08:56.100 --> 01:08:56.880
That's a lot.

1644
01:08:56.939 --> 01:08:58.500
I think that's a small amount.

1645
01:08:58.619 --> 01:09:01.439
I think that's the majority of the fans.

1646
01:09:01.500 --> 01:09:06.000
Yeah, those people that go to conventions that consider this an

1647
01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:08.699
enormous culture rather than a television show.

1648
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:10.020
Yeah, I do.

1649
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:14.460
I think you and me are the outliers in Star Trek fan community.

1650
01:09:14.460 --> 01:09:17.159
Because, I mean, the show could do both.

1651
01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:18.359
Do you know what I mean?

1652
01:09:18.420 --> 01:09:22.920
And it's entirely possible that that episode lands on. actually

1653
01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:26.460
being a Vulcan isn't just having the years and that stupid thing

1654
01:09:26.460 --> 01:09:29.039
and the giant thing.

1655
01:09:29.100 --> 01:09:30.359
Of course he's going to do that, right?

1656
01:09:30.420 --> 01:09:30.960
That's just that.

1657
01:09:31.020 --> 01:09:32.699
So it's almost certainly going to be that.

1658
01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:37.979
And it's going to be that because he's grown up Vulcan and it

1659
01:09:37.979 --> 01:09:40.380
dealt with issues of identity and stuff like that.

1660
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:42.720
He's a real Vulcan in a way that they aren't.

1661
01:09:42.779 --> 01:09:46.319
Like that's almost certainly how the TV episode's going to go.

1662
01:09:46.380 --> 01:09:49.560
But because they're so bad at watching TV.

1663
01:09:49.619 --> 01:09:51.000
They can't even kind of work that out.

1664
01:09:51.060 --> 01:09:52.500
It's very odd.

1665
01:09:52.619 --> 01:09:53.880
I will say one thing.

1666
01:09:54.420 --> 01:09:59.760
I am a little bored of Spock wrestling with his Vulcan heritage

1667
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:00.119
now.

1668
01:10:00.180 --> 01:10:04.800
I mean, we've done this a long, long, long, long, long, long.

1669
01:10:04.859 --> 01:10:08.699
We've got a great new actor in the park, but we are sort of.

1670
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.460
We're going over old grounds with better writers.

1671
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:14.579
So that's a good thing, but it is kind of...

1672
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.640
Concept thing, like the 1st episode where he swaps bodies with

1673
01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:19.800
Dupreme, which is just unbelievably great.

1674
01:10:19.859 --> 01:10:24.659
And then the 2nd episode where he becomes human just in time to

1675
01:10:24.659 --> 01:10:28.739
meet his in-laws and he has to pretend to be Vulcan because he

1676
01:10:28.739 --> 01:10:29.460
becomes human.

1677
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:32.579
Like, again, is so funny and so ridiculous.

1678
01:10:32.699 --> 01:10:36.659
Like, Spocks do ridiculous things in the original series, lest

1679
01:10:36.659 --> 01:10:38.579
these Star Trek fans forget, you know?

1680
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:39.180
Yeah.

1681
01:10:39.180 --> 01:10:41.819
Like, it's not like this is a new idea, you know.

1682
01:10:41.819 --> 01:10:46.439
Spock the centre of a Star Trek comedy and doing crazy wacky

1683
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:47.039
things with him.

1684
01:10:47.100 --> 01:10:48.420
But I think it's taking the piss.

1685
01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:49.859
It ain't.

1686
01:10:49.859 --> 01:10:51.060
It's having fun with the character.

1687
01:10:51.119 --> 01:10:51.840
Yeah, exactly.

1688
01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:53.340
Have fun with Star Trek fans.