WEBVTT NOTE This transcript was created on 2026-05-01 at 19:25:53 1 00:00:22.019 --> 00:00:25.079 Hey, Joe. Hi. 2 00:00:25.140 --> 00:00:28.440 So, this is a new series for us. 3 00:00:28.500 --> 00:00:33.479 We are doing Star Trek prodigy, which is the newest Star Trek 4 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:35.939 series at the time we're recording this. 5 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:39.060 There's another one sort of announced, isn't there, for next 6 00:00:39.060 --> 00:00:39.359 year? 7 00:00:39.420 --> 00:00:40.320 Strange New Worlds. 8 00:00:40.380 --> 00:00:43.799 But Star Trek Prodigy, and it's a Nickelodeon thing. 9 00:00:43.859 --> 00:00:46.140 It's absolutely for children. 10 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:52.020 And Joe, you have only just watched, what, the 1st 3 episodes 11 00:00:52.020 --> 00:00:53.399 yesterday? 12 00:00:53.460 --> 00:00:54.119 Today. 13 00:00:54.179 --> 00:00:55.079 Today. 14 00:00:55.140 --> 00:00:57.359 I watched all 3 today. 15 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.359 With absolute delight. 16 00:01:00.420 --> 00:01:02.100 I have to say. 17 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:08.040 I'm going to go as far as to say I think this is the most. one and 18 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:08.280 two. 19 00:01:08.340 --> 00:01:09.420 I know we're talking about three. 20 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:10.079 Yeah. 21 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:11.760 So, but one and two. 22 00:01:11.819 --> 00:01:17.280 I think it's the most successful Kurtzman Trek pilot I've seen. 23 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:23.219 And it is, it is kind of leaning into what you expect because by 24 00:01:23.219 --> 00:01:27.239 the end of the pilot, you've got the ship, you've got the crew, and 25 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:30.180 it's all those things I whinged about in Discovery series one that 26 00:01:30.180 --> 00:01:32.219 didn't happen until about halfway through the season. 27 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:32.879 Yeah. 28 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:35.579 You know I had some issues with the Discovery pilot. 29 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:37.319 Like I turned that off when I 1st watched that. 30 00:01:37.379 --> 00:01:42.000 It's so good due to those. horrendous Klingon scenes with the 31 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:42.599 subtitles. 32 00:01:42.659 --> 00:01:47.219 Um, and I think the Picard pilot is good. 33 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:51.840 It's a good world builder, but it's kind of pensive and thoughtful 34 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:53.459 and a bit cynical. 35 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:56.340 So I'm not I'm not sure it's entirely enjoyable. 36 00:01:56.459 --> 00:01:58.560 The lower decks one. 37 00:01:58.620 --> 00:02:04.140 I think it's very good, but I was so anxious about whether a 38 00:02:04.140 --> 00:02:08.159 comedy animated Star Trek series could work. 39 00:02:08.219 --> 00:02:11.280 I don't know if I kind of relaxed, watching that because it was 40 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:14.280 just like fast hitting gags all the time when I was kind of 41 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:14.879 getting used to it. 42 00:02:14.939 --> 00:02:18.659 This was just a genuinely good bit of storytelling. 43 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:21.719 Like, visually, sumptuous. 44 00:02:21.780 --> 00:02:24.240 I couldn't believe how good this looked visually. 45 00:02:24.300 --> 00:02:29.819 We've really lovely likeable characters that I was desperate to 46 00:02:29.819 --> 00:02:32.699 spend more time with at the end and funny as well. 47 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:37.500 I laughed out loud several times watching the pilot of prodigy. 48 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:41.759 Yeah, so I just thought it was a massive win for Kurtzman Shrek. 49 00:02:41.819 --> 00:02:46.860 Kurtzman Trek has the ambition to put really weird things on 50 00:02:46.860 --> 00:02:47.340 screen. 51 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:50.699 I think we've said this before when we were doing forget me not 52 00:02:50.699 --> 00:02:53.520 the discovery episode a few weeks ago. 53 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.659 And this is very, very committed to that. 54 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.780 This is extremely strange looking. 55 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.960 It's, it's, you know, frequently you're looking at the screen and 56 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:07.199 you're not sure exactly what it is you're looking at. 57 00:03:07.259 --> 00:03:09.780 I found the, you know, the penal colony. 58 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:12.060 I'm not sure what that is. 59 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.580 It's so detailed, though, is it? 60 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:16.500 Yeah, yeah. looks incredible. 61 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:20.939 And in the episode that we're going to watch where we actually see 62 00:03:20.939 --> 00:03:23.879 the crew kind of interacting on the ship for the 1st time. 63 00:03:23.939 --> 00:03:28.860 I think the design of the proto-star is stunning. 64 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:37.139 And because it's animated, the spaces are big, you know, the 65 00:03:37.139 --> 00:03:42.360 spaces are really big and really beautiful, and there's a real 66 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:48.900 contrast between the sort of clean lines of this ship, which 67 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:54.659 doesn't look that much like discovery, for instance, you know, it's 68 00:03:54.659 --> 00:03:59.460 a more traditional looking, you know, almost like Voyager and even 69 00:03:59.460 --> 00:04:02.159 the design of it, the spoon design of the actual model. 70 00:04:02.219 --> 00:04:02.639 Yeah. 71 00:04:02.699 --> 00:04:08.099 It's leading into that into the late 90s, early 2000s design. 72 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.039 Another reason I probably love this a bit more, you know. 73 00:04:11.099 --> 00:04:12.180 But it's big. 74 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:14.460 Like those interior spaces are big. 75 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:18.120 There's internal windows, which you can't achieve on a set because 76 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:21.300 the set would just need to be too big for that to work. 77 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.480 Well, we go into like the captain's quarters in this episode. 78 00:04:24.540 --> 00:04:26.639 And it's this vast way. 79 00:04:26.699 --> 00:04:29.699 The bed is like the size of how big Picard's quarters were. 80 00:04:29.699 --> 00:04:33.720 With this huge Starscate window and that I'm like, wow. 81 00:04:33.779 --> 00:04:34.800 It's beautiful. 82 00:04:34.860 --> 00:04:41.639 And I think too, that Kurtzman Trek is being made in a sort of 83 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:48.420 late Trump and post Trump era. at a time where America is anxious 84 00:04:48.420 --> 00:04:52.139 about its values and what it stands for. 85 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:59.579 And so Kurtzman track, I think, is very, very explicitly about the 86 00:04:59.579 --> 00:05:02.459 values of the Federation and the values of Starfleet. 87 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.019 Rediscovering them. 88 00:05:04.139 --> 00:05:06.000 There's a real push to that, isn't it? 89 00:05:06.060 --> 00:05:07.139 Well, I did this as well. 90 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:10.439 It's all characters that don't know what the Federation is. 91 00:05:10.500 --> 00:05:14.040 So they're going to kind of go on this journey with Janeway as 92 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.740 their mentor. to discover these values. 93 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:19.439 Discovery's doing that as well, isn't it? 94 00:05:19.500 --> 00:05:20.639 Yeah, series 3 and four. 95 00:05:20.699 --> 00:05:24.180 Series one was all about, you know, it's a time of war. 96 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:29.759 Are we able to stick to our federation ideals when we're at war a 97 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:31.980 little bit like America after kind of 9-11. 98 00:05:32.220 --> 00:05:37.620 And finally deciding, yes, we do stick to our values, we're not 99 00:05:37.620 --> 00:05:40.620 you know, going to blow up the Klingons home world or anything 100 00:05:40.620 --> 00:05:41.819 like that. 101 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:45.779 We're going to find a way of negotiating our way out of this. 102 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:47.459 And here. 103 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:51.660 It's not just the crew that's on the journey of learning about the 104 00:05:51.660 --> 00:05:52.319 federation. 105 00:05:52.379 --> 00:05:56.160 It's the kids who this is intended for. 106 00:05:56.220 --> 00:06:02.639 And we're at a time where the flagship Star Trek show is quite 107 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:04.680 violent at times. 108 00:06:04.740 --> 00:06:09.480 Like, and and all of those iterations of Star Trek that we love 109 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:10.800 are very talky. 110 00:06:10.860 --> 00:06:13.560 This was action packed, wasn't it? 111 00:06:13.620 --> 00:06:17.639 Like, this is set pieces are a big part of this show because there 112 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.240 was a couple of massive set pieces in the pilot, and there was a 113 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.639 big set piece in the 3rd episode as well. 114 00:06:23.699 --> 00:06:28.259 And I think that's like, why wouldn't you do that when you've got 115 00:06:28.259 --> 00:06:32.819 the CGI animation to make this look as beautiful as it does? 116 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:37.379 So you're bringing kids who are perhaps more familiar with sort of 117 00:06:37.379 --> 00:06:41.100 Star Wars style TV science fiction. 118 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:46.259 Well, this was absolutely, this was aping Star Wars style. 119 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:50.879 I've seen some of those like concept animations for stuff. 120 00:06:50.939 --> 00:06:52.980 And like the droid in episode one. 121 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:55.500 It looked like it had stepped straight out of Star Wars. 122 00:06:55.620 --> 00:06:56.040 Yeah. 123 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:56.759 Yeah. 124 00:06:56.819 --> 00:06:57.240 Yes. 125 00:06:57.300 --> 00:06:57.959 Exactly. 126 00:06:58.019 --> 00:07:02.459 And so it's taking them on a journey of discovering what the 127 00:07:02.459 --> 00:07:04.259 Federation is and what it stands for. 128 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:08.160 So this is, you know, the journey that both the kids watching and 129 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:11.100 the kids on the proto star are taking. 130 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:12.839 And I think that's lovely. 131 00:07:12.899 --> 00:07:18.660 I think there's a generosity, a complete absence of gatekeeping. 132 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:25.199 It's we love Star Trek and we want to show kids what's great about 133 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:25.560 it. 134 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:29.279 There's 3 things I want to address in what you just said. 135 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:29.579 Yeah. 136 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:30.180 Okay. 137 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.839 So 1st of all, this is like the anti-enterprise. 138 00:07:33.899 --> 00:07:35.279 Remember when we said enterprise. 139 00:07:35.339 --> 00:07:41.160 It was on almost all human, human cast and fucking tedious because 140 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:41.459 of it. 141 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:45.240 Whereas this is an all alien. cast. 142 00:07:45.300 --> 00:07:49.139 And we said before, very often, the alien characters are the most 143 00:07:49.139 --> 00:07:50.939 interesting characters on Star Trek. 144 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.899 And I love the fact that because this is animated, they can go all 145 00:07:54.899 --> 00:07:58.920 out and have this massively weird, exotic, diverse cast of 146 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:02.939 characters. that are all aliens and actually a little bit of 147 00:08:02.939 --> 00:08:03.420 trivia. 148 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:07.980 This is the 1st episode of Star Trek to not feature a human 149 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:14.220 character since Voyager's living witness. which has the doctor in 150 00:08:14.220 --> 00:08:16.079 it, but obviously he's a hologram. 151 00:08:16.139 --> 00:08:20.399 Otherwise, it's all aliens or depictions of... 152 00:08:20.459 --> 00:08:22.079 In fact, I think Living Witness is the only other one. 153 00:08:22.139 --> 00:08:22.500 Right. 154 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:26.579 You know, so the pilot, that's kind of unique to Star Trek. 155 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:27.839 I really, really like that. 156 00:08:28.379 --> 00:08:34.139 The 2nd thing is, yes, this is, I would say this is aimed at a 157 00:08:34.139 --> 00:08:36.059 family audience rather than kids. 158 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:41.220 Because I'm an adult and I absolutely got massive enjoyment from 159 00:08:41.220 --> 00:08:43.980 this in exactly the same way I could get massive enjoyment from 160 00:08:43.980 --> 00:08:46.320 the Sarah Jane adventures in the Doctor Who universe. 161 00:08:46.379 --> 00:08:51.059 Um, And in fact, I got more enjoyment from this pilot than I did 162 00:08:51.059 --> 00:08:54.120 the Discovery pilot, which is geared specifically at adults 163 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.179 because that can be a little bit dictatorial and a little bit too 164 00:08:57.179 --> 00:08:59.700 serious for its own good. 165 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:02.940 Whereas this remembered to be an adventure all the time. 166 00:09:02.940 --> 00:09:05.100 And who doesn't want to go on an adventure, you know? 167 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.860 This is like the Goonies of Star Trek, you know? 168 00:09:07.980 --> 00:09:12.539 And I was reading about the conception that I can't remember the 169 00:09:12.539 --> 00:09:15.120 names, is it, Hageman, the writers? 170 00:09:15.179 --> 00:09:18.960 They brought in writers that had written for a family audience 171 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:25.679 before, but in programs and movies that were geared at adults and 172 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:29.639 children because they didn't want this to be juvenile and kind of 173 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.039 restrictive with its audience. 174 00:09:32.220 --> 00:09:33.480 And it's not. 175 00:09:33.539 --> 00:09:36.960 I absolutely think anybody could watch this. and just go on the 176 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:37.259 journey. 177 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:39.240 There's, you know, so a couple of the characters are a bit 178 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:40.259 childlike. 179 00:09:40.379 --> 00:09:41.759 And that's fine. 180 00:09:41.820 --> 00:09:42.720 I love that. 181 00:09:42.779 --> 00:09:46.200 Yeah, and that's that's one of the things that I really like. 182 00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:54.840 The lead is kind of smart but undisciplined and a little bit kind 183 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:56.399 of rough and dishonest. 184 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:00.179 And he's the sort of kid who wouldn't watch Star Trek. 185 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:04.620 And so he's being introduced to the idea of Star Trek and what 186 00:10:04.620 --> 00:10:05.159 it's like. 187 00:10:05.220 --> 00:10:09.960 And Rocktoc, who is... that was just brilliant. 188 00:10:10.019 --> 00:10:14.159 When the translator started working and it had this very childlike 189 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:14.580 voice. 190 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:18.600 So she is played by a 10 year old girl. 191 00:10:18.659 --> 00:10:23.580 And yeah, it was a good performance for a 10 year old. really 192 00:10:23.580 --> 00:10:23.879 great. 193 00:10:23.940 --> 00:10:25.259 It's really good. 194 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:27.600 I've watched plenty of science fiction, you know, featuring child 195 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:28.019 actors. 196 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:28.679 Oh, yeah. 197 00:10:28.740 --> 00:10:31.440 And the results are not always this spectacular. 198 00:10:31.500 --> 00:10:34.080 Yeah, no, I think she was born in 2011. 199 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:37.799 So I think she's absolutely superb. 200 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:45.299 And Dal, who is the male lead, is a young man, a 25-year-old man 201 00:10:45.299 --> 00:10:49.500 and he's black, and you can tell that from his accent and just 202 00:10:49.500 --> 00:10:51.539 from the kind of character design as well. 203 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:53.820 And the Tellerize. 204 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:57.419 I think this is the 1st time, the Tellrite. 205 00:10:57.539 --> 00:10:58.980 So we have 2 aliens in the car. 206 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:00.120 You know what? 207 00:11:00.179 --> 00:11:04.379 We may have a rival for Scotty and O'Brien here, you know, in this 208 00:11:04.379 --> 00:11:07.860 character as chief engineer or engineer of this ship. 209 00:11:07.860 --> 00:11:09.840 Man, he's funny, isn't he? 210 00:11:09.899 --> 00:11:10.919 Yeah, yeah. 211 00:11:10.980 --> 00:11:14.399 No, and that's obviously Jason Mansookas, who we know from 212 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:16.740 Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Good Place. 213 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:19.080 And I think he's terrific. 214 00:11:19.139 --> 00:11:21.659 I think it's the character design is just beautiful. 215 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:29.580 And then we've got Angus Imri, whose mother is in Star Wars 216 00:11:29.580 --> 00:11:32.399 episode one and various other things that we've got to. 217 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:33.059 Doctor Who? 218 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:36.000 And everything Victoria would ever wrote. 219 00:11:36.059 --> 00:11:37.019 Yeah, absolutely fabulous. 220 00:11:37.019 --> 00:11:40.500 And it's absolutely brilliant in icon antiques. 221 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:41.220 Yeah. 222 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:46.500 And he's a Medusan, and they are aliens from original track. 223 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:49.740 So there's an episode called Is There in Truth, No Beauty, which 224 00:11:49.740 --> 00:11:50.340 is... 225 00:11:50.340 --> 00:11:50.940 Did they look like that? 226 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:52.320 Well, did they look like? 227 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:57.600 Well, it was in a box and it was incorporeal and if you looked at 228 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:02.039 it, you went mad and I don't remember exactly how it was depicted 229 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:04.080 but Diana Muldau was in that episode. 230 00:12:04.139 --> 00:12:06.059 It's one of her. 231 00:12:06.059 --> 00:12:08.220 It must have been fabulous. 232 00:12:08.220 --> 00:12:08.700 She's awesome. 233 00:12:08.820 --> 00:12:10.080 What do you think? 234 00:12:10.139 --> 00:12:11.460 Should we, hang on. 235 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:12.000 Well, hang on. 236 00:12:12.059 --> 00:12:13.620 I got my... 237 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:17.340 I thought the design of, what's it called, Meduso? 238 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.620 He's a Medusa that was really fabulous. 239 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:20.159 Zero. 240 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:21.659 And jelly. 241 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:22.860 What's the jelly? 242 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:25.379 And the jelly? 243 00:12:25.379 --> 00:12:29.639 The bit where he slid across the, during an action sequence, you 244 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:33.240 just saw him slide across the bridge, I was in fits of laughter 245 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:34.500 good. 246 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:36.899 I think he's like a toddler. 247 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:38.940 So he doesn't really speak. 248 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:44.279 He sort of farts a lot and burps and things and he just puts 249 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:45.000 things in his mouth. 250 00:12:45.059 --> 00:12:48.299 And so I think that he's he's a toddler. 251 00:12:48.299 --> 00:12:49.980 And I just think it's adorable. 252 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:58.379 So my 3rd point is, you know, you've said time and again, Kursman 253 00:12:58.379 --> 00:13:00.840 Trek loves Star Trek, yeah? 254 00:13:00.899 --> 00:13:06.659 And Lower Decks is literally packed full of gags covering the 255 00:13:06.659 --> 00:13:08.519 length and breadth of the franchise. 256 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:13.379 Discovery season 2 is basically a love letter to TOS. 257 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:20.100 Um, In this, It really felt like they were doing something fresh 258 00:13:20.100 --> 00:13:24.240 and original and they weren't leaning into that. 259 00:13:24.299 --> 00:13:26.940 And I really, really liked that in the pilot. 260 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:29.639 Until Janeway came along at the end. 261 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:34.200 Now, I'll never not want Janeway or Kate Maru in anything. 262 00:13:34.259 --> 00:13:36.840 But I was like, that's kind of a shame. 263 00:13:36.899 --> 00:13:41.519 This felt really quite original until that and now, okay, we're 264 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.139 leaning into stuff. and I would like Kursman Trek, like 2 one of 265 00:13:46.139 --> 00:13:50.159 these shows, to just be completely original, like have some 266 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:52.740 elements, like, you know, some races. 267 00:13:52.860 --> 00:13:56.039 But that's another love letter to Star Trek. 268 00:13:56.100 --> 00:13:59.039 And it's kind of, it's not new anymore, you know? 269 00:13:59.100 --> 00:14:00.240 They're doing it a lot. 270 00:14:00.299 --> 00:14:04.919 But I think that what's happening, and clearly her role is to 271 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:07.740 introduce us to Star Trek, and we'll get to it in this episode. 272 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:09.539 And she does it brilliantly. 273 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:10.200 You get me wrong. 274 00:14:10.259 --> 00:14:13.080 And you said to me, yeah, you watch episode 3 and you'll see why 275 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.419 she's there and I absolutely see why she's there. 276 00:14:15.539 --> 00:14:17.940 But it didn't have to be Janeway. 277 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:18.779 I did. 278 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:19.919 It was Kate. 279 00:14:19.980 --> 00:14:21.000 You could get Kate. 280 00:14:21.059 --> 00:14:21.600 Come on. 281 00:14:21.779 --> 00:14:26.940 It's so much better than just some random person And if the job of 282 00:14:26.940 --> 00:14:33.419 this show is to introduce kids to Star Trek and they get to know 283 00:14:33.419 --> 00:14:39.120 and love Janeway the way that we have, then, who knows, the next 284 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.039 step is to see more of her on Voyager. 285 00:14:41.100 --> 00:14:46.740 That's how they sold this to Mulgrew, because she didn't want to 286 00:14:46.740 --> 00:14:50.519 do this and she needed a lot of convincing to come back and play a 287 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:51.240 role. 288 00:14:51.299 --> 00:14:54.240 And after, apparently it was months and months of conversations 289 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.019 because they absolutely knew they wanted her and she'd be a big 290 00:14:58.019 --> 00:14:58.860 draw as well. 291 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:02.759 They pitched, you know, this is introducing Star Trek to the 292 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:06.299 concepts of Star Trek to a whole new generation. 293 00:15:06.299 --> 00:15:08.940 And she was like, oh, shit, I'll do it. 294 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:16.019 So it's not so much a complaint because I love Janeway and I love 295 00:15:16.019 --> 00:15:16.919 seeing more of her. 296 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:22.799 I just, like, I just think you can, you can lean into like fan 297 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.500 wank on nostalgia too much. 298 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:28.559 And I like the fact that this is set in the Delta Quadrant. 299 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:32.399 I'm hoping that, like, I did love seeing the case on. 300 00:15:32.460 --> 00:15:34.980 Yeah, yeah, I thought that was, that was glorious. 301 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:39.659 I'm just hoping this is a bit more original than perhaps some of 302 00:15:39.659 --> 00:15:41.159 the other shows they're doing at the moment. 303 00:15:41.220 --> 00:15:43.679 Because there's a lot of the nostalgia factor. 304 00:15:43.740 --> 00:15:46.500 Well, let's take a look at it. 305 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:47.519 Okay. 306 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:49.259 So I am ready to go. 307 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:55.139 So it's Star Trek Prodigy series one, episode 3 Starstruck, and I 308 00:15:55.139 --> 00:15:57.480 have my finger on the button, so I will count us in. 309 00:15:57.539 --> 00:15:58.799 Do we have a star date? 310 00:15:58.860 --> 00:16:00.419 Normally, you give me a star. 311 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.820 I know, it's a Delta quadrant, they don't have Stardates. 312 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:03.960 All right, here you go. 313 00:16:04.019 --> 00:16:05.100 Okay, here goes. 314 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:11.580 Five, four, three, two, one, and we're off. 315 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:14.820 Here we go. 316 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:16.740 A CBS Studios production. 317 00:16:16.860 --> 00:16:18.059 They always say that now. 318 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:20.460 But Nickelodeon production. 319 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:22.200 So this is a great place for a kids show. 320 00:16:22.259 --> 00:16:23.460 All right, these titles. 321 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:27.299 Firstly, you've got Michael. 322 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:33.299 Michael Giacchino's music and he is absolutely superb. 323 00:16:33.539 --> 00:16:39.360 He's the person who created the music for the JJ Abrams Star 324 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:39.840 Trek. 325 00:16:39.899 --> 00:16:42.720 These elements where they're flying past planets. 326 00:16:42.779 --> 00:16:46.679 It's basically the Voyager titles, only more beautiful. 327 00:16:46.740 --> 00:16:48.419 Yeah, modern. 328 00:16:48.419 --> 00:16:51.539 Yeah, but also... like that's Murph. 329 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:52.259 What's this? 330 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:53.700 Like, what the hell is that? 331 00:16:53.820 --> 00:16:54.480 That's Murph. 332 00:16:54.539 --> 00:16:56.159 Those like they're globulous. 333 00:16:56.220 --> 00:16:57.299 There's elements here. 334 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:02.820 Like, and this is this is Pog's hand, right? 335 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:05.759 So they're flying past elements of the characters. 336 00:17:05.819 --> 00:17:06.900 That's Gwyn there. 337 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:09.180 Oh, you know what? 338 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.519 I've seen this 3 times today and I didn't realise that. 339 00:17:11.579 --> 00:17:11.819 Thank you. 340 00:17:11.940 --> 00:17:13.680 Dreadnock or whatever his name is? 341 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:16.740 and we're about to fly past Janeway. 342 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.160 But it's just beautiful as well, isn't it? 343 00:17:20.220 --> 00:17:24.660 It's, it's, and you know, I do think there is like a, um, a 344 00:17:24.660 --> 00:17:27.480 musical uniformity to all these, even though there are different 345 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:28.559 people doing the music. 346 00:17:28.619 --> 00:17:31.140 I could tell straight away this was Kerzman Trek. 347 00:17:31.259 --> 00:17:32.700 The 2nd the pilots died. 348 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.859 Well, it's just that the music is good. 349 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:36.779 It's really properly good. 350 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:39.180 You're so mean about... 351 00:17:39.180 --> 00:17:41.160 Not Easter music is not all bad. 352 00:17:41.220 --> 00:17:43.859 Yeah, but it's nowhere near as interesting as this. 353 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:46.559 But it's doing a very different thing. 354 00:17:46.619 --> 00:17:49.799 It's, it's, Yeah. telling you when the ad breaks are. 355 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:58.859 So this follows straight on from the pilot with the discovery of 356 00:17:58.859 --> 00:18:03.359 Janeway and here are our main characters. 357 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:05.700 You must be well happy. 358 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.640 She's got an early J... got her early Janeway hair that I really 359 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:08.880 like. 360 00:18:08.940 --> 00:18:10.319 Yeah. 361 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:13.259 And what's great about this is obviously Kate Mogra has aged. 362 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:14.819 We won't hold that against her. 363 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:17.640 But she can still appear in this and still look as beautiful as 364 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:18.660 she was in the 90s. 365 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:19.259 Yeah, yeah. 366 00:18:19.259 --> 00:18:24.420 Fog is so funny. 367 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:26.400 That's such an adorable reaction. 368 00:18:26.700 --> 00:18:29.160 And you know, the tenorizer. 369 00:18:29.220 --> 00:18:31.140 Oh, very underrepresented. 370 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:34.079 Well, it's because they always look stupid. 371 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.500 And they look incredibly bad in that. 372 00:18:37.619 --> 00:18:39.180 What are they are they in Journey to Babel? 373 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:41.819 I can't remember, but in original trek, they look shockingly bad 374 00:18:41.819 --> 00:18:46.380 and no one has managed to make them look good, even on discovery 375 00:18:46.380 --> 00:18:46.980 they look shit. 376 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:50.460 And so they were an enterprise a bit, weren't they? 377 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:51.779 Yeah, towards the end, were they? 378 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:55.200 But then Enterprise was obsessed with the Andorans and no one 379 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:56.940 looks more fucking stupid than they were. 380 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:58.920 Oh, I don't know. 381 00:18:58.980 --> 00:18:59.880 They look pretty bad. 382 00:18:59.940 --> 00:19:04.680 But the character model for pog is just tremendous. 383 00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:05.880 He's so good. 384 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:08.880 But you know what they've done here, right? 385 00:19:08.940 --> 00:19:12.839 Is obviously the 1st episode or the 1st 2 episodes was all about 386 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.059 Escape from the prison? 387 00:19:15.180 --> 00:19:15.839 Yeah, yeah? 388 00:19:15.900 --> 00:19:20.460 In like the most cinematic way, I can imagine it was just 389 00:19:20.460 --> 00:19:20.940 stunning. 390 00:19:21.180 --> 00:19:24.960 And they follow that up with like what's essentially a character 391 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:28.259 drama, getting to know these people in this new setting. 392 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:33.599 And that's not really for kids, you know, that's, that's quite 393 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:34.680 adult. 394 00:19:34.740 --> 00:19:35.519 Look at this. 395 00:19:35.579 --> 00:19:36.779 That's so beautiful. 396 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:42.180 So here we have her doing her, you know, PowerPoint presentation 397 00:19:42.180 --> 00:19:45.599 about what the Federation is and introduce... 398 00:19:45.660 --> 00:19:48.839 If I saw a PowerPoint presentation like that, I'd be overwhelmed. 399 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.319 I'd be awake, but... 400 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:57.180 But then Rocktuck says, oh, equality, that would be nice. 401 00:19:57.180 --> 00:20:01.380 And that's the other thing too, that these people were all, they're 402 00:20:01.380 --> 00:20:03.900 all children, but they were all prisoners working in a labour 403 00:20:03.900 --> 00:20:04.380 camp. 404 00:20:04.380 --> 00:20:10.019 And so this is, this is them discovering that there's a different 405 00:20:10.019 --> 00:20:16.140 way of living, the sort of tyrannical villain hierarchy thing 406 00:20:16.380 --> 00:20:17.640 there's an alternative. 407 00:20:18.539 --> 00:20:22.319 Do we know why the ship was in the delta quality? 408 00:20:22.380 --> 00:20:24.180 No, or why it was buried. 409 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:25.740 We don't, we don't know any of that yet. 410 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:29.579 Because there's already there's already like arc fingerprints all 411 00:20:29.579 --> 00:20:29.940 over this. 412 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.960 The tax scene to this and the 1st episode is like, find me my 413 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:36.660 daughter, you know, I was like, oh, my God. 414 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:38.039 Yeah, exciting. 415 00:20:38.099 --> 00:20:42.480 So they're going to be pursued by the sort of forces of, you know 416 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:47.099 I can feel the season finale calling from here when he finally 417 00:20:47.099 --> 00:20:48.119 catches up with them. 418 00:20:48.180 --> 00:20:50.880 That is beautiful too. 419 00:20:50.940 --> 00:20:54.119 That's the other thing that they can do and they do so 420 00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:59.759 effortlessly on discovery is those sort of holographic, you know 421 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:02.640 like the controls and control panels and stuff that aren't real 422 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:04.319 and in Picard as well. 423 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:07.079 It does do that thing, right? 424 00:21:07.140 --> 00:21:10.200 In anime, I find very strange as well. 425 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:15.299 I think it's to accentuate the beauty of the face makes the eyes 426 00:21:15.299 --> 00:21:15.720 massive. 427 00:21:15.779 --> 00:21:17.579 That's normal, I think, in cartoons. 428 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:21.420 I mean, they look very good, but it's, I find it very odd looking 429 00:21:21.420 --> 00:21:23.940 you know, like, because we don't have massive eyes, do we? 430 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:25.559 Look at this space, though. 431 00:21:25.619 --> 00:21:27.000 Look at this space. 432 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:28.920 Like, it's big. 433 00:21:28.980 --> 00:21:32.460 We're doing lots of medium close-ups at this point in the scene 434 00:21:32.460 --> 00:21:37.259 but you've got, look as well, as well as the space, as well as the 435 00:21:37.259 --> 00:21:40.920 beautiful ship, that you probably couldn't realise on a Star Trek 436 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:41.460 budget. 437 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:46.019 You've got like a rock creature, you've got a floating eyeball. 438 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:49.980 You know, you've got a gelatinous jelly that's the cutest thing 439 00:21:49.980 --> 00:21:50.220 ever. 440 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:54.180 I just think I just think it's a terrific cast of characters. 441 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:55.259 And look at this. 442 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:58.019 This is Dal, and he's explaining that he doesn't believe in the 443 00:21:58.019 --> 00:22:02.819 Federation because his life experience has led him to believe that 444 00:22:02.819 --> 00:22:07.619 you know, life is just, you know, rich people screwing you over 445 00:22:07.619 --> 00:22:08.339 essentially. 446 00:22:08.339 --> 00:22:11.940 And that whole conversation is taking place while they're standing 447 00:22:11.940 --> 00:22:16.680 on a giant Federation emblem, you know, in the middle of the 448 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:17.279 floor. 449 00:22:17.339 --> 00:22:23.039 And so there is, I just think it's kind of marvellous, that these 450 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:28.079 are people who have been oppressed and screwed over and they're 451 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:32.400 now presented not just with a ship to escape in, but with a 452 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:37.920 philosophy and a way of life that, you know, we know of from Star 453 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:39.599 Trek, but they don't. 454 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:43.799 Sounds like a pretty magnificent potential crew there. 455 00:22:43.859 --> 00:22:46.799 In fact, I love the fact that she says that in this episode. 456 00:22:46.859 --> 00:22:47.640 I think, isn't she? 457 00:22:47.700 --> 00:22:48.900 what a rag. 458 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:50.940 I've seen some ragtag bunches in my time. 459 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.220 I think you laughed on a lot of potential. 460 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:59.400 But also as well, there's this kind of running thread through this 461 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:01.440 of, oh gosh, what's the main character's name? 462 00:23:01.500 --> 00:23:02.700 Dow, the purple guy. 463 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:03.119 Thank you. 464 00:23:03.180 --> 00:23:04.920 I'm going to need you for this. 465 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:05.819 And so I was thinking enough. 466 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.819 Um, to, like, we can go it alone. 467 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:10.799 We don't need the hologram's help. 468 00:23:10.859 --> 00:23:12.240 We don't need anybody's help. 469 00:23:12.299 --> 00:23:16.500 And then, obviously, they're thrown into a situation so dire that 470 00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:20.700 he needs to call upon Janeway by the end and, you know, accept her 471 00:23:20.700 --> 00:23:21.059 help. 472 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:22.140 I think that's really lovely too. 473 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.859 Um, this, this, uh, the female character. 474 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:26.519 Please help me out. 475 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:28.319 Thank you. 476 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:33.420 One, I think, is a really terrific vocal performance. 477 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:34.259 I think it's great. 478 00:23:34.380 --> 00:23:35.279 She's really good. 479 00:23:36.180 --> 00:23:41.579 Um, but two, I like that there is a character there that doesn't 480 00:23:41.579 --> 00:23:43.140 want to be there as well. 481 00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:46.319 Except I think she sort of does. 482 00:23:46.380 --> 00:23:50.940 And it's like the relationship between these 2 and no doubt we're 483 00:23:50.940 --> 00:23:52.380 going to hear about it more. 484 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.980 Like, they liked one another. 485 00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:57.779 They knew each other well. 486 00:23:57.839 --> 00:23:59.099 They liked one another. 487 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.579 When she's speaking to her father, she kind of downplays that a 488 00:24:02.579 --> 00:24:03.900 beard. 489 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.259 She says she says he's like, you know, barely compensated. he's 490 00:24:07.259 --> 00:24:08.400 got no intelligence. 491 00:24:08.460 --> 00:24:09.119 Yeah, that's right. 492 00:24:09.180 --> 00:24:09.539 Yeah. 493 00:24:10.859 --> 00:24:14.460 I mean, you know you know that by the end of the season, she's 494 00:24:14.460 --> 00:24:16.319 absolutely going to be integrated into this crew. 495 00:24:16.380 --> 00:24:20.700 Oh yeah, but will she, uh, you know, like I'll be really 496 00:24:20.700 --> 00:24:23.339 interested to see how they do the relationship between them. 497 00:24:23.460 --> 00:24:23.880 All right. 498 00:24:23.940 --> 00:24:27.900 Now this is the diviner, who is our main villain, and he was in a 499 00:24:27.900 --> 00:24:31.799 water tank for some reason, and we were just going lovingly over 500 00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:35.819 his suit, which seems to have some kind of cooling system, like a 501 00:24:35.819 --> 00:24:36.539 water thing. 502 00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:38.759 So we might find out about that. 503 00:24:38.819 --> 00:24:45.299 Um, And, you know, Star Trek films have done big villains like 504 00:24:45.299 --> 00:24:50.039 this, but the show itself doesn't normally, and these are very 505 00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:51.779 Star Trek characters, aren't they? 506 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:55.559 Like, I think, you know, dread knock is a bit like General 507 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:58.559 Grievous from Attack of the Clones or whatever. 508 00:24:58.619 --> 00:25:03.720 And, you know, this guy is just straight out of Clone Wars or 509 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:04.200 something like that. 510 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.440 I mean, I just think this whole series. 511 00:25:07.500 --> 00:25:12.660 Obviously, you know, it is Star Trek, but this is as close to Star 512 00:25:12.660 --> 00:25:14.160 Wars as we're going to get. 513 00:25:14.220 --> 00:25:15.240 But look at that. 514 00:25:15.299 --> 00:25:16.200 Look at that set. 515 00:25:16.259 --> 00:25:22.380 Like the massive mess hall, which has a big interior window open 516 00:25:22.380 --> 00:25:23.400 into another space. 517 00:25:23.460 --> 00:25:24.660 It looks big. 518 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:28.980 One of the things that I always loved about the Sarah Jane 519 00:25:28.980 --> 00:25:33.839 Adventures was that it was supposedly aimed at children and yet it 520 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.480 always had these like emotional moments that really here. 521 00:25:36.539 --> 00:25:39.900 And this series is doing it as well already. 522 00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:43.680 And there's this, so this is a comedy sequence where he gets, you 523 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.500 know, the hideous tellerized. 524 00:25:46.500 --> 00:25:47.279 It's so gross. 525 00:25:47.339 --> 00:25:51.720 But then, then, the rock, the rock creature's name. 526 00:25:51.779 --> 00:25:52.200 Thank you. 527 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:57.059 Gets the prison food because that's all she's ever known. all this 528 00:25:57.059 --> 00:25:59.220 she's ever known. that's really sad. 529 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:03.119 And yeah, yeah, and look at her and listen to the vocal 530 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:03.660 performance. 531 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:05.160 It's the only food I've ever had. 532 00:26:05.220 --> 00:26:10.200 It is, oh, it's so sweet. 533 00:26:10.619 --> 00:26:15.000 And I see, there's a big distance between them and Janeway at the 534 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:15.180 moment. 535 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:16.259 They don't know one another. 536 00:26:16.259 --> 00:26:19.980 And I'm actually looking forward to her integrating a little bit 537 00:26:19.980 --> 00:26:20.279 more. 538 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.819 But the fact that she gave that a positive reason as well. 539 00:26:23.940 --> 00:26:26.039 I love a woman who knows what she wants. 540 00:26:26.099 --> 00:26:31.440 Yeah, I think that's going to be a really nice like, this Murphy's 541 00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:34.440 like just vomiting on 0 in this scene. 542 00:26:34.500 --> 00:26:40.019 You know how we say like, I'm and Shimmerman is the MVP of... 543 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:42.900 And we said, the doctor is the MVP Voyager. 544 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:44.099 Murph is the empire. 545 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:45.660 He steals this episode as well. 546 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:46.440 All right. 547 00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:50.099 In the bit where he goes, because in the 1st episode, he keeps 548 00:26:50.099 --> 00:26:53.279 randomly doing things that saves the day and they say to him at 549 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.039 the end, are you going to do something random that saves the day 550 00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:57.059 and he just sort of burps. 551 00:26:57.180 --> 00:26:58.740 Yeah, it's round about me. 552 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:04.920 I think he's going to get the best comedy moment of every 553 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:05.220 episode. 554 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:06.900 It's a great character. 555 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.940 Yeah, look, there's Dal. 556 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.039 And these two, I like this. 557 00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:16.680 I think this is kind of the primary relationship in the episode 558 00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:17.160 isn't it? 559 00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:22.920 It's Dal and 0 and they work really, really well together. 560 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.400 And I think 0 is an incredibly good character for just, you know 561 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:28.799 like a ball, a sort of eyeball in a thing. 562 00:27:28.859 --> 00:27:33.420 Um, oh, this thing's here, weird. 563 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:34.859 Rock talk is it? 564 00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:36.240 Thank you. 565 00:27:36.299 --> 00:27:37.440 Visiting her in prison. 566 00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:39.720 Like, this scene is played out in duet. 567 00:27:39.779 --> 00:27:40.200 Yeah. 568 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:41.400 You know, like this... 569 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:42.119 Yeah, it's beautiful. 570 00:27:42.180 --> 00:27:43.500 It's comparable. 571 00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:45.240 It is absolutely comparable. 572 00:27:45.299 --> 00:27:51.660 But having her just be a small child as well, you know, why didn't 573 00:27:51.660 --> 00:27:52.259 you help us? 574 00:27:52.380 --> 00:27:55.319 And then she just leaves her food, like the food. 575 00:27:55.380 --> 00:27:56.220 Oh my word. 576 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.480 And just an act of generosity towards somebody who's been very 577 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:01.619 cruel to her in the past. 578 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:02.640 It's beautiful. 579 00:28:02.700 --> 00:28:05.819 And her reaction to it as well, as well. 580 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:09.180 Green doesn't say anything in response, but there's just that 581 00:28:09.180 --> 00:28:09.900 look. 582 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:11.039 It is stunning. 583 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.480 I don't know what I was expecting from the episode after the pilot 584 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:19.799 but a character drama was not what I was expecting at all. 585 00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:23.099 And I was very pleasantly surprised and that was what we got. 586 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:25.680 Yeah, well, they need to introduce the characters to us properly. 587 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.579 And think about, you know, how badly, say Star Trek, the Next 588 00:28:29.579 --> 00:28:33.539 Generation, flubs this by making the 1st regular episode, like the 589 00:28:33.539 --> 00:28:36.000 Naked Now, which is... 590 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:37.319 And then and then code of honour. 591 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.099 Yeah, yeah. 592 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.440 And this is really good. 593 00:28:40.740 --> 00:28:44.519 I'm excited to see why they have 2 warp cause and a thing. 594 00:28:44.579 --> 00:28:47.700 Do you think it's a spore drive, the round thing or something? 595 00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.859 Maybe, maybe, maybe. 596 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.740 I think I think this is definitely a show that's going to 597 00:28:52.740 --> 00:28:57.240 introduce elements and like progress them and pay them off as they 598 00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:57.599 go along. 599 00:28:57.720 --> 00:28:59.220 You know, it's going to be... 600 00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:00.960 I don't know when this is set at all. 601 00:29:01.019 --> 00:29:04.079 I don't know when this is said, like how long has this ship been 602 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:04.319 here? 603 00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:05.160 I don't know. 604 00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:09.420 No, but I mean, there is, there is the option. 605 00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.700 I know how to whinge about this at the beginning, but there is the 606 00:29:11.700 --> 00:29:16.019 option to potentially revisit Voyager locations, isn't there? 607 00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:16.859 I guess so. 608 00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.200 Meet the 8472. 609 00:29:19.380 --> 00:29:23.640 They'll they'll do the Sun Carts episode where they're all doing 610 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:24.839 WWS, you know? 611 00:29:24.900 --> 00:29:27.119 Get Rock the Dwayne Johnson in. 612 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.140 And this too, right? 613 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:36.000 So he's he lies all the time because he's had to be devious in 614 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:39.720 order to survive and he tried to escape and, you know, he has 615 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:43.619 disrespect for the authority that's placed over him because that 616 00:29:43.619 --> 00:29:46.319 authority is sort of evil and corrupt and exploitative. 617 00:29:46.380 --> 00:29:51.180 And so there's going to be a journey here, clearly, where he 618 00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:55.680 actually learns to be the captain and a proper Starfleet captain. 619 00:29:55.740 --> 00:30:01.079 And so that's going to be the the Janeway, um, Dow relationship. 620 00:30:01.140 --> 00:30:02.880 The Janeway effects. 621 00:30:02.940 --> 00:30:03.539 Yeah, yeah. 622 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.920 Her job is to teach him to be a captain, to teach him to, and it's 623 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:09.180 sort of happening here, isn't it? 624 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:14.640 Where everyone gets involved in the resolution of the, of the plot 625 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.400 and works together. 626 00:30:17.460 --> 00:30:22.799 Um, whereas, you know, Dal is just trying to be captain and get 627 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:25.740 the big chair and the big quarters and all of that. 628 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.220 I'm so sorry, I was listening to you, but I was just looking at 629 00:30:29.220 --> 00:30:32.099 those stunning visual effects of them heading into that white 630 00:30:32.099 --> 00:30:32.700 dwarf star. 631 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:34.019 It's incredible, isn't it? 632 00:30:34.140 --> 00:30:38.940 I have a feeling there will be at least one, you know, visually 633 00:30:38.940 --> 00:30:40.500 stunning set piece in every episode. 634 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.380 Yeah, well, I mean, this looks beautiful. 635 00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.359 It really, really looks great. 636 00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.700 Like, I think, you can find me on this. 637 00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:52.619 I think this looks better than Discovery. 638 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.400 I think this is, I think this is probably the best looking Star 639 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:57.119 Trek show now. 640 00:30:57.180 --> 00:30:58.319 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 641 00:30:58.380 --> 00:31:02.579 I think, you know, like discovery is a little bit, you know 642 00:31:02.579 --> 00:31:06.960 discovery is beautiful and cinematic and don't get me wrong, but 643 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:11.339 this can just do more, you know, there's, you're not hampered by 644 00:31:11.339 --> 00:31:12.180 the fact that you've got actors. 645 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:18.779 Yeah, it's also, I think, that this is creating a weird space that 646 00:31:18.779 --> 00:31:23.579 it's sort of designed to contrast with what we know of Star Trek. 647 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.700 These are people who don't know about Star Trek and don't know 648 00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:30.539 about the Federation and they come from a place completely unlike 649 00:31:30.539 --> 00:31:32.460 anything we've seen in Star Trek. 650 00:31:32.819 --> 00:31:37.559 There is a point to be made here as well that, you know, this is 651 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:38.700 what Voyager could have been. 652 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:42.599 Like if they had a bit more visual imagination and they could have 653 00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:46.019 had a more kind of, they wouldn't have had, you know, aliens like 654 00:31:46.019 --> 00:31:46.259 this. 655 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:48.599 But do you know what I mean? 656 00:31:48.660 --> 00:31:51.240 Like, like, so much of Voyager is TNG live? 657 00:31:51.299 --> 00:31:54.779 It's, it's, it's rehashing what's been done before. 658 00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:56.039 I don't think they're going to do that. 659 00:31:56.099 --> 00:31:56.759 No, you know? 660 00:31:56.819 --> 00:32:02.700 I mean, I mean, the main science fiction plot here is not very 661 00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:09.660 complex and and, you know, it is just we fall into a dwarf star 662 00:32:09.660 --> 00:32:12.299 and then we decide not to fall into a dwarf star or whatever. 663 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:17.279 Like, and that doesn't matter because what is fun is getting them 664 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:18.480 to discover the ship. 665 00:32:18.539 --> 00:32:20.460 It's called Starstruck. 666 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:25.980 It sounds like Star Trek, and it is their response to seeing this 667 00:32:25.980 --> 00:32:27.119 incredible ship. 668 00:32:27.180 --> 00:32:28.740 Amazing show. 669 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:29.460 Look at this. 670 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:34.920 So the replicators on Discovery, because Discovery predates the 671 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:36.960 invention of the replicator originally. 672 00:32:37.019 --> 00:32:40.859 They sort of had that sort of 3D printing thing, you know, like 673 00:32:40.859 --> 00:32:44.519 they would, there's a scene in a short trek where a uniform gets 674 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.559 made 3D printed. 675 00:32:46.619 --> 00:32:48.180 And I think maybe that happens in discovery as well. 676 00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:54.720 And so this incredible scene where the, the replicator is, is 3D 677 00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:01.500 printing a shuttle and Gwyn are having this fight. 678 00:33:01.740 --> 00:33:03.779 Gorgeous, isn't it? 679 00:33:03.900 --> 00:33:08.160 I was reading that one of the short treks was animated, 3D 680 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:08.759 animated. 681 00:33:08.819 --> 00:33:09.180 Is that right? 682 00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:09.960 two, yeah. 683 00:33:10.019 --> 00:33:13.200 And that was the 1st time this was done and that was when they 684 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.019 realised that this had potential. 685 00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:18.839 There are 2 animated ones and they're both great. 686 00:33:18.900 --> 00:33:21.660 And one of them is stunningly sweet and beautiful and I think has 687 00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:22.680 no dialogue in it. 688 00:33:22.740 --> 00:33:23.700 It's really good. 689 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.980 Which series is that? 690 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:32.880 Um, it's actually a sort of ref on uh, on original Star Trek. 691 00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:38.039 So, yeah. so I think it's a sort of series 2 Discovery Series 2 692 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:38.579 thing. 693 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:43.980 Oh, you know, this is also the, this is the 1st um, sorry, the 694 00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:48.960 pilot of this, yeah, was the 1st um, 2 episodes squished 695 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:49.500 together. 696 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.579 It's the Enterprise pilot, the way they just don't really do that 697 00:33:53.579 --> 00:33:54.359 anymore, do they? 698 00:33:54.420 --> 00:33:56.819 Well, no, they did it with Discovery. 699 00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.259 Discovery is... 700 00:33:58.259 --> 00:34:00.420 That's 2 episodes though, isn't it? 701 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.039 It's not it's not a feature length. 702 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.819 Well, the reason it's 2 episodes was to get people to subscribe to 703 00:34:05.819 --> 00:34:07.440 CBS all Access. 704 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.980 Because they showed the 1st episode on CBS and then... not go 705 00:34:10.980 --> 00:34:13.440 there, Nathan, right, after the season 4 debacle. 706 00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:14.219 Yeah let's not. 707 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.440 They call that a bit wrong, didn't they? 708 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:17.099 They really did. 709 00:34:17.820 --> 00:34:24.119 I love how enthused 0 is by the prospect of being destroyed by 710 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:25.980 this beautiful special effect. 711 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:27.420 That's really funny. 712 00:34:27.659 --> 00:34:30.059 I mean, if you've got to go, right? 713 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.679 That's virtually what he says. 714 00:34:31.739 --> 00:34:37.679 And Pog is so funny, holy crap, he's good. 715 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:41.460 I love this fact that the whole ship is upside down, but she's the 716 00:34:41.460 --> 00:34:41.940 wrong way out. 717 00:34:42.059 --> 00:34:43.920 And she's got a holographic coffee. 718 00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:49.199 And Murphy's eating a chair. just like clever. 719 00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:50.880 And he's just munching on a chair. 720 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.500 Yeah, so adorable. 721 00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.960 I actually don't want them to mess this up though. 722 00:34:55.019 --> 00:34:55.860 That's the trouble. 723 00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:57.420 Like, I don't want them to get it dirty. 724 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.719 I was super worried in the mess that they would kind of... 725 00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:03.239 I don't think you've seen the episode of Lower Decks where there's 726 00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:10.980 the captain who hasn't taken the plastic covers off the off any of 727 00:35:10.980 --> 00:35:13.559 the consoles because she doesn't want it to get dirty and I feel 728 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:14.039 like her. 729 00:35:14.940 --> 00:35:20.280 Do you remember the DSI episode where Nog trades out Cisco's chair 730 00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.880 to someone who's absolutely obsessed with having pictures taken on 731 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:24.539 everyone's chest? 732 00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:28.199 Picard's chair and then anyone's... 733 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:30.300 So jokes about that are, yeah. 734 00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:31.980 There's a precedent for those. 735 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:36.599 And look, again, Janeway is so nice to Pog. 736 00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:41.460 And the animation of Pogs enthusiasm as well is just so well 737 00:35:41.460 --> 00:35:41.940 done. 738 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.079 Do you know what? 739 00:35:43.139 --> 00:35:45.539 I swear that the shots of that shit. 740 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:47.579 It's given me a hard on Nathan, honestly. 741 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:48.480 It's amazing. 742 00:35:48.539 --> 00:35:49.980 It is a beautiful sheep. 743 00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.900 Like it is, you know, you always talk about the visual part of 744 00:35:57.900 --> 00:36:02.639 television and Kurtzman trek just goes for it, doesn't it? 745 00:36:02.699 --> 00:36:05.099 I watched a whole bunch of Star Trek, the next generation last 746 00:36:05.099 --> 00:36:08.639 night, and they were good episodes and I enjoyed them a lot, but 747 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:15.179 just visually, you know, they find a grammar by about series 3, and 748 00:36:15.179 --> 00:36:18.300 then that version of Star Trek is... 749 00:36:18.420 --> 00:36:23.039 Maybe maybe not until sort of latter-day DS9 when they can 750 00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.000 suddenly start filling the screen with CGI spaceships and doing 751 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:28.980 sort of dynamic action. 752 00:36:29.099 --> 00:36:32.880 But even those, though, are, you know, like he is a cartoon of 753 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:37.559 some spaceships and now back to the sets that we know and love and 754 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:39.480 have no reflective surfaces on them. 755 00:36:39.539 --> 00:36:43.260 And, you know the, sorry, sorry to know, you know, the gaseous 756 00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:43.619 cloud. 757 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:44.280 Yeah. 758 00:36:44.340 --> 00:36:45.900 What's it called again? 759 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.300 I'm going to be doing this a lot. 760 00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.380 Do you know, sometimes I stick on YouTube, you know, and watch 761 00:36:52.380 --> 00:36:54.239 these lovely swirly patterns. 762 00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:55.679 I think it's supposed to be very calming. 763 00:36:55.739 --> 00:36:56.880 Why should they do one of that? 764 00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:58.980 Because I'll tell you what, there's something very beguiling about 765 00:36:58.980 --> 00:37:00.659 what's going on. like that, I ball. 766 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:03.599 Yeah, well, but if you look properly at it, You go mad. 767 00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.119 Oh, this, don't worry. 768 00:37:06.179 --> 00:37:11.099 I'm already there I see, I've already. 769 00:37:11.340 --> 00:37:13.500 Oh, man. 770 00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:15.659 Yeah, very oop. 771 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:17.519 Yeah. 772 00:37:17.579 --> 00:37:20.099 I was really sad in the pilot, you know, when it ended. 773 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.579 And that's a sign that you're, you know, bet you remember I turned 774 00:37:23.579 --> 00:37:27.239 off discovery, but I was, you know, I was really sad when the 775 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:28.559 credits hit in that 1st one. 776 00:37:28.619 --> 00:37:31.860 I think... 777 00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:34.800 It's so sweet. 778 00:37:34.860 --> 00:37:40.199 And then this shot here of of Dal and Janeway. 779 00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:44.519 And it is just that he is going to learn to be a captain. 780 00:37:44.579 --> 00:37:47.519 He's going to learn to be a bit less self-centred. 781 00:37:47.579 --> 00:37:49.559 Look at Murph in the captain's chair. 782 00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:51.659 But he's also in-built. 783 00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.079 You remember, oh, that blur is so gorgeous. 784 00:37:55.139 --> 00:37:56.159 Oh my word. 785 00:37:56.219 --> 00:37:57.179 Do you know what? 786 00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:59.039 Are they selling toys if they're not? 787 00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:00.719 They should be. 788 00:38:00.780 --> 00:38:04.559 But with the lead, the guy that's going to learn to be a captain. 789 00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:13.380 He's got like the, you know, Kirk had all those characteristics of 790 00:38:13.380 --> 00:38:15.900 being a bit edgy and a bit dangerous and playing against the 791 00:38:15.900 --> 00:38:16.199 rules. 792 00:38:16.260 --> 00:38:17.519 Like, he's got that in build. 793 00:38:17.579 --> 00:38:18.480 He's a prisoner. 794 00:38:18.539 --> 00:38:21.900 He's not someone from the Federation, you know, and he's going to 795 00:38:21.900 --> 00:38:24.960 learn those values, but he'll have that sort of dangerous side to 796 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:25.380 him as well. 797 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:26.940 Yeah, but we all love the captain. 798 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:28.139 He's super appealing. 799 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:29.699 Like he's a really likeable kid. 800 00:38:29.940 --> 00:38:31.440 Yeah, yeah. 801 00:38:31.500 --> 00:38:34.260 It's a massively likeable cast of characters. 802 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:36.059 God, I love pog so much. 803 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:40.320 I'm, you know, I don't think about, think about Picard that for a 804 00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:40.500 second. 805 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:41.039 Yeah. 806 00:38:41.099 --> 00:38:42.960 Like, you know, some of those characters are quite nice. 807 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.820 They're really hot guy. 808 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.860 He's really, really nice. 809 00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:49.139 But like, you know, they're kind of, some of them are pretty 810 00:38:49.139 --> 00:38:51.360 depressing to be around, aren't they? 811 00:38:51.420 --> 00:38:52.139 Yeah, yeah. 812 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:53.219 Look. 813 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:56.159 Yeah, that show was sort of miserable. 814 00:38:56.219 --> 00:38:57.900 I liked Picard. 815 00:38:57.960 --> 00:38:59.760 Oh, and look, there's another cation. 816 00:38:59.820 --> 00:39:04.260 Like, you know, the cat people. like Dr. Tana from Lower Decks 817 00:39:04.260 --> 00:39:05.519 and... 818 00:39:05.579 --> 00:39:07.260 Yes, I know that is... 819 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.559 There's one in there's one in the animated series and there's one 820 00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.519 in one of the JJ Abrams films, so they are... 821 00:39:14.579 --> 00:39:14.940 I know. 822 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:15.659 It's that thing. 823 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:16.679 What the hell is it? 824 00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:17.940 Is it made up of Christian? 825 00:39:18.059 --> 00:39:19.019 What are we looking at? 826 00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:23.579 And then the shield thing that makes it disappear and that's what 827 00:39:23.579 --> 00:39:24.900 they've been mining for. 828 00:39:24.900 --> 00:39:27.420 And like, I don't know what that is. 829 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:29.400 What's that shape coming to the camera? 830 00:39:29.460 --> 00:39:32.579 Okay, you out there, you listening to this podcast. 831 00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.619 Okay, listen to the awe in our voices. 832 00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:38.039 If you did not want to give this a go because you thought this was 833 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:39.059 Star Trek for kids. 834 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:42.420 Give this a go. really bloody good. 835 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:46.679 And it turns out that Star Trek for kids is a great idea and that 836 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:47.880 it actually works. 837 00:39:47.940 --> 00:39:52.800 And I think that the premise is really just the perfect 838 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.360 introduction because the kids can identify with these outsiders 839 00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.780 who don't know anything about Star Trek or the Federation or 840 00:40:00.780 --> 00:40:01.139 whatever. 841 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:05.219 They're the sort of people who would never have been leads in a 842 00:40:05.219 --> 00:40:08.219 Star Trek show, and here they are given a show, and it's 843 00:40:08.219 --> 00:40:08.519 wonderful. 844 00:40:09.179 --> 00:40:13.440 Do you think this is such a success? 845 00:40:13.500 --> 00:40:15.960 Because I think they really knocked this out of the park for these 846 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.260 1st 3 and it's very confident in what it wants to do. 847 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:23.219 Do you think this is the result of them already having done 3 848 00:40:23.219 --> 00:40:23.579 shows? 849 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:28.739 and kind of learning what works, what doesn't, This is what people 850 00:40:28.739 --> 00:40:29.039 want. 851 00:40:29.099 --> 00:40:34.320 I think that every Kurtzman trek has shown that we've learned 852 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:36.059 something from doing the previous one. 853 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:38.400 And I think discovery is great. 854 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:42.719 Like most days it's my favourite modern trek and maybe my 855 00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:46.619 favourite trek because it is visually weird. 856 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:48.179 I love the characters. 857 00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:51.599 It has things to say on the whole. 858 00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:56.940 But I think Picard is sort of slicker and more confident when it 859 00:40:56.940 --> 00:40:57.659 comes along. 860 00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.840 I think lower decks come straight out of the gate knowing exactly 861 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:03.179 what it wants to do and what it wants to be. 862 00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.239 And I think this one does as well. 863 00:41:06.300 --> 00:41:08.159 I think prodigy is really interesting. 864 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:15.119 My biggest surprise then with Kurtzman Trek is the 2 shows that I 865 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:18.780 figured would hit for me, Discovery and Picard. 866 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:22.500 I have massive reservations about still. 867 00:41:22.619 --> 00:41:27.659 And the 2 shows I was really wary of, and that's the comedy and 868 00:41:27.659 --> 00:41:32.519 the juvenile show, they're the 2 that I've instantly fallen in 869 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:34.079 love with and gone along for the ride. 870 00:41:40.139 --> 00:41:45.179 All right, so we are about to choose the Star Trek episode that we 871 00:41:45.179 --> 00:41:48.960 are going to do in our next podcast episode. 872 00:41:49.019 --> 00:41:52.380 And Joe Tellus how we're choosing it. 873 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:56.699 So for the 2nd time in uh, hang on a minute. 874 00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:57.719 What episode will this be? 875 00:41:57.780 --> 00:41:58.559 our ninth episode? 876 00:41:58.619 --> 00:41:59.940 Eighth? 877 00:41:59.940 --> 00:42:00.659 10th, I think. 878 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:01.739 My word. 879 00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:05.760 In the 2nd time in 10 episodes, we are including all Star Trek 880 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:10.260 shows. because that's rather exciting and we just don't know what 881 00:42:10.260 --> 00:42:10.980 we're going to get. 882 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:13.800 All right, I am a bit excited by this, actually. 883 00:42:13.860 --> 00:42:15.000 It could be anything. 884 00:42:15.059 --> 00:42:16.860 Okay, all right. 885 00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.639 I'm always fairly excited when I'm podcasting with you, but I'm 886 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:22.139 doubly excited, right? 887 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:23.099 Absolutely. 888 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.420 So this is untitled Star Trek project.com slash randomiser, which 889 00:42:27.420 --> 00:42:31.679 is where you all go to work out what Star Trek episode to watch 890 00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:31.920 next. 891 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:36.900 If you are using the randomiser and you want to at us with what 892 00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:39.000 you've been selected, we'd love to know. 893 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:40.199 That would be really interesting, actually. 894 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:44.579 I have no, there's no kind of analytics on the site. 895 00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:47.219 I literally have no idea how many people go there. 896 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.480 Unless you're about you force me to watch some Rosa or something 897 00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:52.559 like that. 898 00:42:52.619 --> 00:42:53.519 So good. 899 00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:54.900 All right. 900 00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:56.219 Press the button. 901 00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:56.699 Okay. 902 00:42:56.760 --> 00:43:03.420 I'm going Oh, it's sub-Rosa. 903 00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:07.679 It's not, it's possibly the best Voyager episode. 904 00:43:07.739 --> 00:43:09.179 Oh, we have done to already. 905 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.039 Tell me, tell me, tell me. 906 00:43:11.099 --> 00:43:13.380 It's Scorpion. 907 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:17.699 Ooh, which is phenomenally good. 908 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:19.980 Although we have just done a Voyager. 909 00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:21.420 All right. 910 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:21.960 Okay. 911 00:43:22.019 --> 00:43:23.159 It's a two-parter, too. 912 00:43:23.219 --> 00:43:26.099 It is a 2 par, so yeah, I know. 913 00:43:26.219 --> 00:43:26.940 I know. 914 00:43:27.300 --> 00:43:29.400 Okay, I'm going to go again. 915 00:43:29.460 --> 00:43:29.880 All right? 916 00:43:29.940 --> 00:43:30.480 Okay. 917 00:43:30.539 --> 00:43:31.920 Here we go. 918 00:43:32.460 --> 00:43:35.760 It's a Star Trek Enterprise episode. 919 00:43:36.539 --> 00:43:38.940 Season one again. 920 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:39.780 Oh, what's it called? 921 00:43:39.900 --> 00:43:43.019 Episode 6, Terror Nova. 922 00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:45.599 Oh, I don't remember that. 923 00:43:45.659 --> 00:43:48.179 It's just Latin, by the look on your face, you don't want to 924 00:43:48.179 --> 00:43:48.599 remember it. 925 00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:49.739 It's Latin for new earth. 926 00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.659 I don't I don't really remember it. 927 00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:52.559 I may not have got that far. 928 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:54.420 Okay. 929 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:55.440 Oh my god. 930 00:43:55.500 --> 00:43:59.519 I pressed it again and and I will not press the button again. 931 00:43:59.579 --> 00:44:01.019 Okay, it's the it's our 3rd one. 932 00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:01.440 What is it? 933 00:44:01.739 --> 00:44:05.820 It's Star Trek, the original series. 934 00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:06.599 Oh, excellent. 935 00:44:06.659 --> 00:44:08.579 It's series 3. 936 00:44:09.659 --> 00:44:12.179 Episode one, spot. 937 00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:16.559 Oh my god. 938 00:44:16.619 --> 00:44:18.360 That's brilliant. 939 00:44:18.420 --> 00:44:20.400 Oh, absolutely that. 940 00:44:20.460 --> 00:44:22.320 I'm so excited. 941 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:29.760 Notoriously the worst episode of Star Trek until Threshold came 942 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:30.599 along in Voyager. 943 00:44:30.659 --> 00:44:31.679 Shades of Grey. 944 00:44:33.659 --> 00:44:35.280 Do you know what? 945 00:44:35.340 --> 00:44:37.860 I think it has a massive kitch value spot spray. 946 00:44:37.980 --> 00:44:38.820 Oh, absolutely that. 947 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:39.780 Yeah, yeah. 948 00:44:41.940 --> 00:44:44.519 I'm not elevated to watch this. 949 00:44:44.579 --> 00:44:47.340 I can't wait. stupid premise. 950 00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:52.260 Well, it's like Neelix's lungs, isn't it, in Fage? 951 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.480 No, this is way bad. 952 00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:59.219 This will be our finest episode. 953 00:45:07.739 --> 00:45:12.119 You've been listening to Untitled Star Trek Project with Joe Ford 954 00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:13.500 and Nathan Bottom League. 955 00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:17.579 You can find us online at untitledstar trekproject.com or you can 956 00:45:17.579 --> 00:45:20.039 find links to our Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel. 957 00:45:20.099 --> 00:45:23.940 Our podcast artwork is by Kayla Ciceran, and the theme was 958 00:45:23.940 --> 00:45:25.559 composed by Cameron Lamb. 959 00:45:25.619 --> 00:45:29.880 This episode was recorded on the 22nd of December 2021 and 960 00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.699 released on the 7th of January 2022. 961 00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:37.440 We'll see you next time for the original series, Spot's Brave.